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John Chase wrote: "Christopher Tidy" wrote... [ snip ] Have folks here seen the film "The Full Monty"? It's a great film, but it contains one classic of this kind. A few unemployed steelworkers are watching a semi-porn movie in which a woman is trying to weld (don't ask, I never did get what the video was about). Anyway, one of the guys says "Her mix is all to cock! That's too much acetylene." Then you see the TV they're watching, and it's actually stick welding. "Airplane" -- What does a jet airliner sound like from outside? Not like a Super Connie, I'm sure.... But that was deliberately done for the comic effect. -- FF |
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Saw a 914 once that had been filled with a little to much oil. Smoke was
pouring out the exhaust. Karl "Dave Hinz" wrote in message ... On Tue, 13 Sep 2005 12:27:55 -0500, Rex B wrote: wrote: My favorite was a guy in a fragrance commercial standing at the back of a bathtub Porsche with the rear cowl up and... wait for it... steam coming out. I suppose I shoould be impressed that he had the cowl on the right end of the car open. Could have been oil smoke from that seeping valve cover. Of course the valve cover gaskets leak - how else are you supposed to know it's getting enough oil?!??!!? |
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I always like to look for rubber tire tracks in the long, long trail
awinding in an oater, with a TV antenna off in the background. Bugs |
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I don't know much about guns, but it seems to me common that they'll picture
someone shooting a shotgun, but the sound is from a rifle. Peter "Gunner Asch" wrote in message news No less than I love watching war flicks or films involving firearms and picking out all the gaffes they make. I don't know much about guns, but it seems to me common that they'll picture someone shooting a shotgun, but the sound is from a rifle. Peter |
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On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 02:13:51 GMT, Lew Hartswick wrote:
If (great big IF) I remember right my Saab 850 GT also had emergency (parking) brake on the front discs. Lew, I have a GT-850, and the ebrakes are on the back. Which year did you have, '63 or '64? Does it still exist? Dave Hinz |
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Jim sez:" History Channel is notorious for using clips
of vehicles from the wrong era... locomotives and heavy equipment are my favorites." Second that, Jim! Don't you get tired of seeing the same old WW1 "geyser of dirt" used over and over again? The best misuse of a locomotive I ever saw was one of the "return to the future" movies. In it, MJ Fox was standing on the footboard of an 1880's locomotive reputed to be grossly overpressured in some attempt to attain warp speed. The steam pressure was causing the smoke-box nuts to unscrew. Bob Swinney |
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Yeah, and look closely in the background sky to see if you can find
contrials. Bob Swinney "Bugs" wrote in message ups.com... I always like to look for rubber tire tracks in the long, long trail awinding in an oater, with a TV antenna off in the background. Bugs |
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No less than I love watching war flicks or films involving firearms and picking out all the gaffes they make. Gunner Yeah.. especially the long, singing ricochets inside buildings and caves..... Bill |
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I've always wanted to know if in the days before the car, the dirt roads
were "worn in" as they are now - with two separate tracks and no wear in the center of the road. I would expect that the roads would be more universally worn what with horses walking in the middle of the road in between the wheel tracks. Watching some cowboy riding down a road worn into two separate paths has always made me a little suspicious. Peter "Bugs" wrote in message ups.com... I always like to look for rubber tire tracks in the long, long trail awinding in an oater, with a TV antenna off in the background. Bugs |
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wagons cut the tracks. lots of them left in what's left of the prairies.
"Peter Grey" wrote in message link.net... I've always wanted to know if in the days before the car, the dirt roads were "worn in" as they are now - with two separate tracks and no wear in the center of the road. I would expect that the roads would be more universally worn what with horses walking in the middle of the road in between the wheel tracks. Watching some cowboy riding down a road worn into two separate paths has always made me a little suspicious. Peter "Bugs" wrote in message ups.com... I always like to look for rubber tire tracks in the long, long trail awinding in an oater, with a TV antenna off in the background. Bugs |
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Peter Grey wrote:
I've always wanted to know if in the days before the car, the dirt roads were "worn in" as they are now - with two separate tracks and no wear in the center of the road. I would expect that the roads would be more universally worn what with horses walking in the middle of the road in between the wheel tracks. Watching some cowboy riding down a road worn into two separate paths has always made me a little suspicious. I think the answer is yes. You can still see parts of the Oregon Trail: http://community.netidea.com/teekay/...regontrail.jpg |
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"Mark" wrote in message
... | The Mission Impossible episode in which the techninerd finally managed | to diagnose a burnt out Selenium rectifier in a TV monitor. Somewhat | challenged in the olfactory department? | /mark Who runs selenium rectifiers anymore? I will tell you that they have a distinct odor all their own upon blowing, but TV's were one of the first to switch over to diodes. I don't think you'll find a nerd that's old enough to know what a blown selenium rectifier smells like, which is actually the part I find amusing. |
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On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 17:12:25 GMT, carl mciver wrote:
I don't think you'll find a nerd that's old enough to know what a blown selenium rectifier smells like, which is actually the part I find amusing. (me: sheepishly raises hand...) - but, I've always been a scrounger/surplus seeking kind of guy. Worse, though, are tantalum capacitors. That taste stays with you for _days_. |
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"Dave Hinz" wrote in message ... On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 17:12:25 GMT, carl mciver wrote: I don't think you'll find a nerd that's old enough to know what a blown selenium rectifier smells like, which is actually the part I find amusing. (me: sheepishly raises hand...) - but, I've always been a scrounger/surplus seeking kind of guy. Worse, though, are tantalum capacitors. That taste stays with you for _days_. Along with the holes in your acoustic ceiling tiles, if you happen to hook one up in reverse! G LLoyd |
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On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 17:30:02 GMT, Lloyd E. Sponenburgh wrote:
"Dave Hinz" wrote in message ... Worse, though, are tantalum capacitors. That taste stays with you for _days_. Along with the holes in your acoustic ceiling tiles, if you happen to hook one up in reverse! G I actually had one fail and it was brand new, and _apparently_ installed with the proper polarity. I suspect it was mis-marked. Exciting, _and_ foul. Something about a timing circuit, probably back in the days when 555s and 74LS something were new and exciting. |
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Charles Spitzer wrote:
wagons cut the tracks. lots of them left in what's left of the prairies. Yup... the thin steel wheels compacted the ruts MUCH more than the feet of horses and oxen. Bill |
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Dave Hinz wrote:
On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 02:13:51 GMT, Lew Hartswick wrote: If (great big IF) I remember right my Saab 850 GT also had emergency (parking) brake on the front discs. Lew, I have a GT-850, and the ebrakes are on the back. Which year did you have, '63 or '64? Does it still exist? Dave Hinz You reliaze that was over 40 years ago. I've been through quite a few cars since that. I do remember it was red, had a wood and metal steering wheel and the oil system was an injector system into the individual cylinders so it didn't have to mix with the gas. Oh and the freewheeling (overunning clutch) transmission. This was in central PA so seriously doubt it still exists except as a pile of rust somewhere. :-) ...lew... |
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On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 23:36:34 GMT, Lew Hartswick wrote:
Dave Hinz wrote: Lew, I have a GT-850, and the ebrakes are on the back. Which year did you have, '63 or '64? Does it still exist? You reliaze that was over 40 years ago. Every time I need a part not on the parts cars, yes. Lots of good lathe and mill time lately, though. I've been through quite a few cars since that. I do remember it was red, had a wood and metal steering wheel and the oil system was an injector system into the individual cylinders so it didn't have to mix with the gas. Oh and the freewheeling (overunning clutch) transmission. Aren't those a blast? _nothing_ better in the winter. My current model Saab (a 9-5) can't hold a candle to it in terms of winter handling. This was in central PA so seriously doubt it still exists except as a pile of rust somewhere. :-) Ah well. I need, well, who knows. If you had any parts or odds and ends, I'd buy 'em. |
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On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 08:05:48 -0700, with neither quill nor qualm,
BillP quickly quoth: No less than I love watching war flicks or films involving firearms and picking out all the gaffes they make. Gunner Yeah.. especially the long, singing ricochets inside buildings and caves..... Or those outside, after you see them hit DIRT banks and stop behind the near recipient. ---- A mostly meat-powered woodworker, and proud of it. http://diversify.com Website Application Programming |
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Selenium gas is poisonous.
Martin Martin Eastburn @ home at Lions' Lair with our computer lionslair at consolidated dot net NRA LOH, NRA Life NRA Second Amendment Task Force Charter Founder carl mciver wrote: "Mark" wrote in message ... | The Mission Impossible episode in which the techninerd finally managed | to diagnose a burnt out Selenium rectifier in a TV monitor. Somewhat | challenged in the olfactory department? | /mark Who runs selenium rectifiers anymore? I will tell you that they have a distinct odor all their own upon blowing, but TV's were one of the first to switch over to diodes. I don't think you'll find a nerd that's old enough to know what a blown selenium rectifier smells like, which is actually the part I find amusing. ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
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Likely reverse voltage spikes from the supply. They can't take reverse voltage
at all. The design is full of faults - the glow plug problem and the firebomb issue. Martin Martin Eastburn @ home at Lions' Lair with our computer lionslair at consolidated dot net NRA LOH, NRA Life NRA Second Amendment Task Force Charter Founder Dave Hinz wrote: On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 17:30:02 GMT, Lloyd E. Sponenburgh wrote: "Dave Hinz" wrote in message ... Worse, though, are tantalum capacitors. That taste stays with you for _days_. Along with the holes in your acoustic ceiling tiles, if you happen to hook one up in reverse! G I actually had one fail and it was brand new, and _apparently_ installed with the proper polarity. I suspect it was mis-marked. Exciting, _and_ foul. Something about a timing circuit, probably back in the days when 555s and 74LS something were new and exciting. ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
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Karl Vorwerk wrote:
Saw a 914 once that had been filled with a little to much oil. Smoke was pouring out the exhaust. Karl I had a Type 3 VW once, just got done reheading the motor and got it all hooked up, had to take the wife to the hospital and didn't have anything else to drive. I'd been pretty liberal with the oil while assembling the thing and had only run it enough to confirm it sounded good.. went down the road with it, had a remarkable trail of smoke behind, on one curve where I could see back a ways the smoke trailed for a good half-mile before dissipating to where there was cars to be seen. It cleared up just as I got to the hospital, drove past about three CHP cars in the hospital parking lot, thought sure I'd get arrested for being such an asshole but they didn't even notice. John |
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On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 10:10:17 -0700, "Charles Spitzer"
wrote: wagons cut the tracks. lots of them left in what's left of the prairies. Ayup. Hooves tend to pack the soil between the wheels..the wheels tended to slice deep. Gunner, who has seen Pattons tank tracks out in the California desert. 70 yrs after the fact. "Peter Grey" wrote in message hlink.net... I've always wanted to know if in the days before the car, the dirt roads were "worn in" as they are now - with two separate tracks and no wear in the center of the road. I would expect that the roads would be more universally worn what with horses walking in the middle of the road in between the wheel tracks. Watching some cowboy riding down a road worn into two separate paths has always made me a little suspicious. Peter "Bugs" wrote in message ups.com... I always like to look for rubber tire tracks in the long, long trail awinding in an oater, with a TV antenna off in the background. Bugs "Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire. Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us) off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give them self determination under "play nice" rules. Think of it as having your older brother knock the **** out of you for torturing the cat." Gunner |
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In article , Jim Stewart says...
History Channel is notorious for using clips of vehicles from the wrong era... locomotives and heavy equipment are my favorites. The quickest way to get a smack it to keep stopping movies to say "look, they're using the correct pin and link coupler for the railcars!" Or, "look, that's exactly the right phone for the period, it's a 102." Or "they never used that kind of cord on telephones then." Some of the set dressers are getting very, very good. One of the best period films to watch is _Road_to_Perdition_ because those folks really knew their stuff. I can only find one or two goofs in the entire thing. Jim -- ================================================== please reply to: JRR(zero) at pkmfgvm4 (dot) vnet (dot) ibm (dot) com ================================================== |
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"jim rozen" wrote in message ... Some of the set dressers are getting very, very good. One of the best period films to watch is _Road_to_Perdition_ because those folks really knew their stuff. I can only find one or two goofs in the entire thing. We did the SFX for a movie this last spring. It was set in 1966. The Cushmans ran (and started) like Cushmans. The fireworks were all paper-and-string styles authentic to the sixties. The clothes, the cars... everything. The continuity folks were hawks, finding all sorts of anachronistic things, like the wrong styles of signage on buildings, jewelry that was wrong, etc. We even had an arborist on set to ensure that there were no PLANTS visible that wouldn't have been commonly available in 1966 in Florida. 'Course... going back ONLY to 1966 isn't quite as hard as being authentic to a period, say, a hundred years back. LLoyd |
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On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 21:58:29 -0500, Martin H. Eastburn wrote:
Likely reverse voltage spikes from the supply. They can't take reverse voltage at all. Not in _my_ design, nope, couldn't be. Besides, the replacement functioned for years, at least. So I still suspect the markings or, possibly, the guy who fab'd the board but that's unlikely (ahem) maybe. |
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jim rozen wrote in
: In article , Jim Stewart says... History Channel is notorious for using clips of vehicles from the wrong era... locomotives and heavy equipment are my favorites. The quickest way to get a smack it to keep stopping movies to say "look, they're using the correct pin and link coupler for the railcars!" Or, "look, that's exactly the right phone for the period, it's a 102." Or "they never used that kind of cord on telephones then." Some of the set dressers are getting very, very good. One of the best period films to watch is _Road_to_Perdition_ because those folks really knew their stuff. I can only find one or two goofs in the entire thing. Jim One of the best I've ever seen is the movie "ZULU" - the one with Michael Caine and Jack Hawkins. Among other "details", they even managed to find Martini rifles for the cast to use - and use properly! |
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Eregon wrote:
jim rozen wrote in : In article , Jim Stewart says... History Channel is notorious for using clips of vehicles from the wrong era... locomotives and heavy equipment are my favorites. The quickest way to get a smack it to keep stopping movies to say "look, they're using the correct pin and link coupler for the railcars!" Or, "look, that's exactly the right phone for the period, it's a 102." Or "they never used that kind of cord on telephones then." Some of the set dressers are getting very, very good. One of the best period films to watch is _Road_to_Perdition_ because those folks really knew their stuff. I can only find one or two goofs in the entire thing. Jim One of the best I've ever seen is the movie "ZULU" - the one with Michael Caine and Jack Hawkins. Among other "details", they even managed to find Martini rifles for the cast to use - and use properly! "ZULU" is one of those movies that I can't walk away from when it's on. Superb attention to detail, acting and a great story. |
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Not technically inept, but I really get ****ed off at the portrayal of
mental disorders in popular culture. I am quite familiar with the very challenging condition of Obsessive Compulsive Disorder (OCD), and the movie "As Good As It Gets" and the tv show "Monk" totally misrepresent(ed) the problems as humorous and amusing eccentricities... |
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John Chase wrote:
"Christopher Tidy" wrote... [ snip ] Have folks here seen the film "The Full Monty"? It's a great film, but it contains one classic of this kind. A few unemployed steelworkers are watching a semi-porn movie in which a woman is trying to weld (don't ask, I never did get what the video was about). Anyway, one of the guys says "Her mix is all to cock! That's too much acetylene." Then you see the TV they're watching, and it's actually stick welding. "Airplane" -- What does a jet airliner sound like from outside? Not like a Super Connie, I'm sure.... -jc- "Airplane" was a parody, the wrong engine noise was deliberate! David |
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Emmo wrote: Not technically inept, but I really get ****ed off at the portrayal of mental disorders in popular culture. I am quite familiar with the very challenging condition of Obsessive Compulsive Disorder (OCD), and the movie "As Good As It Gets" and the tv show "Monk" totally misrepresent(ed) the problems as humorous and amusing eccentricities... That cheeses me also....except in my case it's misrepresentation of depression and bipolar the same as being on the edge of axe murderer. Relly cheeses me also when news uses the term "...history of mental disrder." The only purpose is to make people assume that anyone with any mild and treatable disorder is potentially "scary". The scary ones are the ones who HAVEN'T had any treatment. Koz |
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Koz wrote in
: Emmo wrote: Not technically inept, but I really get ****ed off at the portrayal of mental disorders in popular culture. I am quite familiar with the very challenging condition of Obsessive Compulsive Disorder (OCD), and the movie "As Good As It Gets" and the tv show "Monk" totally misrepresent(ed) the problems as humorous and amusing eccentricities... That cheeses me also....except in my case it's misrepresentation of depression and bipolar the same as being on the edge of axe murderer. Relly cheeses me also when news uses the term "...history of mental disrder." The only purpose is to make people assume that anyone with any mild and treatable disorder is potentially "scary". The scary ones are the ones who HAVEN'T had any treatment. Koz Yabut it's easier to identify those that *have* had treatment than those that *haven't*! |
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On Thu, 15 Sep 2005 17:41:06 -0700, Koz wrote:
Emmo wrote: Not technically inept, but I really get ****ed off at the portrayal of mental disorders in popular culture. That cheeses me also....except in my case it's misrepresentation of depression and bipolar the same as being on the edge of axe murderer. Well, sure. But the thing is, they're ~artists~, and can't be bothered learning about the subjects they're portraying. And they never let the truth get in the way of telling a story, on this or any other topic. I'm sure it's not intentionally singling out mental illness, it's just a case of "You notice errors in the subjects that matter to you". How many times have we seen revolvers with silencers, or with dozens of shots without reloading, or which magically eject brass? Someone who doesn't understand revolvers wouldn't see much if any problem with that. Keep in mind the writer just wants a plot device; they're not knowledgeable enough to know how ignorant they are. The exceptions, when research is done well, are rare enough to be notable. Dave Hinz |
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Dave Hinz wrote: On Thu, 15 Sep 2005 17:41:06 -0700, Koz wrote: Emmo wrote: Not technically inept, but I really get ****ed off at the portrayal of mental disorders in popular culture. That cheeses me also....except in my case it's misrepresentation of depression and bipolar the same as being on the edge of axe murderer. Well, sure. But the thing is, they're ~artists~, and can't be bothered learning about the subjects they're portraying. And they never let the truth get in the way of telling a story, on this or any other topic. I'm sure it's not intentionally singling out mental illness, it's just a case of "You notice errors in the subjects that matter to you". How many times have we seen revolvers with silencers, or with dozens of shots without reloading, or which magically eject brass? Someone who doesn't understand revolvers wouldn't see much if any problem with that. Keep in mind the writer just wants a plot device; they're not knowledgeable enough to know how ignorant they are. The exceptions, when research is done well, are rare enough to be notable. Dave Hinz Oh, yea. I do understand that the story is not as good unless you take it to the extreme. It's just frustrating that the message which gets across is generally the "insanity" of the small percentage rather than the coping and operational abilities of the high percentage....rough stastics show that 10 percent or so of the people you deal with have some major mental related problem..mostly likely it's not the 10% you think..those people are just plain ol crazy I suppose it's similar to the protrayal that people with guns in their house are either all gang members/crooks or nutcase rednecks who shoot anything that walks across their yard. MUCH better story than the safe gun owner. Reality is boring. Koz |
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In article , Koz says...
....rough stastics show that 10 percent or so of the people you deal with have some major mental related problem.. Hmm. I think the number here where I work is higher than that. "ya don't have to be crazy to work here, but it helps!" Jim -- ================================================== please reply to: JRR(zero) at pkmfgvm4 (dot) vnet (dot) ibm (dot) com ================================================== |
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David R. Birch wrote:
John Chase wrote: "Christopher Tidy" wrote... [ snip ] Have folks here seen the film "The Full Monty"? It's a great film, but it contains one classic of this kind. A few unemployed steelworkers are watching a semi-porn movie in which a woman is trying to weld (don't ask, I never did get what the video was about). Anyway, one of the guys says "Her mix is all to cock! That's too much acetylene." Then you see the TV they're watching, and it's actually stick welding. "Airplane" -- What does a jet airliner sound like from outside? Not like a Super Connie, I'm sure.... -jc- "Airplane" was a parody, the wrong engine noise was deliberate! David As was the four-speed transmission being used on takeoff. That was really a funny little movie. If you have the misfortune to see the sequal, be sure to stay awake to see William Shatner first little bit, it's funny. John |
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I used to think the same about a dirt road until my brother
and I started playing with a "bomber" stock car at a local dirt track. Yep, the tires do squeal on a clay track when you got it pitched sideways in a turn. Bart D. Hull Tempe, Arizona Check http://www.inficad.com/~bdhull/engine.html for my Subaru Engine Conversion Check http://www.inficad.com/~bdhull/fuselage.html for Tango II I'm building. Remove -nospam to reply via email. Occupant wrote: I can't count the number of times I've seen a commercial, show, or movie where a vehicle is speeding around a corner and the tires are squealing like crazy .... on a dirt road. Oscar wrote in message oups.com... Hi all, This isn't on topic, but I felt the need to vent and I figured this NG might understand. Last night I saw a commercial for a tire store or manufacturer that featured a woman parking a Jeep on a steep hill, pulling the parking brake and getting out. The Jeep then slid down the hill with the front wheels locked supposedly illustrating the point that the woman's car needed tires. This bugged me because the parking brake doesn't work on the front wheels... Recently there was commercial that had a guy on a chopper sitting at a light revving his engine. The sound of a largely unmuffled Harley motor permeates the air. The chopper however, has an old Honda SOHC 750 motor. My favorite was a guy in a fragrance commercial standing at the back of a bathtub Porsche with the rear cowl up and... wait for it... steam coming out. I suppose I shoould be impressed that he had the cowl on the right end of the car open. There are many more I've noticed over the years. One would think that ad agencies would employ technically aware to prevent stupid stuff like this. I guess the reality is that most folks don't notice. Rant off, Peter |
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