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On Fri, 04 Jun 2021 18:22:37 +0100, Birdbrain Macaw (aka "Commander Kinsey",
"James Wilkinson", "Steven ******","Bruce Farquar", "Fred Johnson, etc.),
the pathological resident idiot and attention whore of all the uk ngs,
blathered again:

FLUSH the subnormal sociopathic trolling attention whore's latest
attention-baiting sick bull**** unread again

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about Birdbrain Macaw's (now "Commander Kinsey" LOL)
trolling:
"He is a well known attention seeking troll and every reply you
make feeds him.
Starts many threads most of which die quick as on the UK groups anyone
with sense Kill filed him ages ago which is why he now cross posts to
the US groups for a new audience.
This thread was unusual in that it derived and continued without him
to a large extent and his silly questioning is an attempt to get
noticed again."
MID:

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ItsJoanNotJoann addressing Birdbrain Macaw's (now "Commander Kinsey" LOL):
"You're an annoying troll and I'm done with you and your
stupidity."
MID:

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AndyW addressing Birdbrain:
"Troll or idiot?...
You have been presented with a viewpoint with information, reasoning,
historical cases, citations and references to back it up and wilfully
ignore all going back to your idea which has no supporting information."
MID:

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Phil Lee adressing Birdbrain Macaw:
"You are too stupid to be wasting oxygen."
MID:

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Phil Lee describing Birdbrain Macaw:
"I've never seen such misplaced pride in being a ****ing moronic motorist."
MID:

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Tony944 addressing Birdbrain Macaw:
"I seen and heard many people but you are on top of list being first class
ass hole jerk. ...You fit under unconditional Idiot and should be put in
mental institution.
MID:

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Pelican to Birdbrain Macaw:
"Ok. I'm persuaded . You are an idiot."
MID:

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DerbyDad03 addressing Birdbrain Macaw (now "Commander Kinsey" LOL):
"Frigging Idiot. Get the hell out of my thread."
MID:

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Kerr Mudd-John about Birdbrain Macaw (now "Commander Kinsey LOL):
"It's like arguing with a demented frog."
MID:

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Mr Pounder Esquire about Birdbrain Macaw (now "Commander Kinsey" LOL):
"the **** poor delivery boy with no hot running water, 11 cats and
several parrots living in his hovel."
MID:

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Rob Morley about Birdbrain:
"He's a perennial idiot"
MID: 20170519215057.56a1f1d4@Mars

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JoeyDee to Birdbrain
"I apologize for thinking you were a jerk. You're just someone with an IQ
lower than your age, and I accept that as a reason for your comments."
MID: l-september.org

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Sam Plusnet about Birdbrain (now "Commander Kinsey" LOL):
"He's just desperate to be noticed. Any attention will do, no matter how
negative it may be."
MID:

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asking Birdbrain:
"What, were you dropped on your head as a child?"
MID:

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Christie addressing endlessly driveling Birdbrain Macaw (now "Commander
Kinsey" LOL):
"What are you resurrecting that old post of mine for? It's from last
month some time. You're like a dog who's just dug up an old bone they
hid in the garden until they were ready to have another go at it."
MID:

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Mr Pounder's fitting description of Birdbrain Macaw:
"You are a well known fool, a tosser, a pillock, a stupid unemployable
sponging failure who will always live alone and will die alone. You will not
be missed."
MID:

Commander Kinsey wrote

https://nordvpn.com/blog/phone-liste...eningTest_NT_S

Its bull****. I do have quite a few mates of mine that
show up at my place in person to get me to help
them with all sorts of stuff, usually govt forms and
getting mobile phones unlocked and fixing their
computers, cars, houses etc etc etc. NOT ONCE have
I ever seen an ad for anything discussed and I have
3 systems listening to our conversations, goggle
/nest home mini, echo dot and siri on the iphone.

And I make and receive almost all calls on my mobile
phone and always use speakerphone mode with it
when at home too and not once has anything we
have discussed showed up in an ad either.

I do mostly buy stuff on the net, quite a bit recently
and do get ads for the sort of stuff I have just bought.
I couldn't care less and don't even bother to fart
around with ad killers on my computer or phone.

On Sat, 5 Jun 2021 04:24:48 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

FLUSH the two subnormal sociopathic cretins' endless absolutely idiotic
blather

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TYPICAL retarded "conversation" between sociopath Rodent and sociopath
Birdbrain from August 26th 2018:

Birdbrain: "I have one head but 5 fingers."

Senile Rodent: "Obvious lie. You hairy legged cross dressers are so inbred
that you all have two heads."

Birdbrain: "You're the one that likes hairy legs remember?"

Senile Rodent: "The problem isnt the hairy legs, it's the gross inbreeding
that
produces two headed unemployables like you."

Birdbrain: "So why did you mention hairy legs?"

Senile Rodent: "Because that's what those who arent actually stupid enough
to shave their legs have."

Birdbrain: "You only have hairy legs if both of the following are true:
1) You're quite far back on the evolutionary scale.
2) You haven't learned what a razor is for."

Senile Rodent: "Only a terminal ****wit or a woman shaves their legs."

Birdbrain: "There is literally zero point in having hair all over your
body."

Senile Rodent: "There is even less point in wasting your time changing what
you are born with."

MID:

If you go into the app, it can be good fun to see what you said and what it
thought you said in the history. Hours of laughs.
a lady play radio 2
A lady heard play radio tooth, sorry I cannot find that station here is
rap radio from Belfast.
I invented the names but it is the gist of how it can kind of be counter
intuitive?
Brian

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"Commander Kinsey" wrote in message
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The main gripe I have with inline ads on the web is that a wonderfully blind
accessible web site churns out adverts which can completely trash all the
care and design the site builder has taken by merely putting scrolling
graphics, or test as pictures, or some kind of dodgy formatting in the page.
I thus use add blockers and any site that does not like it and wants me to
pay them can go to hell, they should be looking first and foremost the
person whatever their disability, otherwise what is the point if folk are
going to click away?
Its not a new problem, Remember all those download sites that had pop ups
saying download me first etc?
bringing back text and ftp sites I say.
Brian

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"Rod Speed" wrote in message
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Commander Kinsey wrote

https://nordvpn.com/blog/phone-liste...eningTest_NT_S

Its bull****. I do have quite a few mates of mine that
show up at my place in person to get me to help
them with all sorts of stuff, usually govt forms and
getting mobile phones unlocked and fixing their
computers, cars, houses etc etc etc. NOT ONCE have
I ever seen an ad for anything discussed and I have
3 systems listening to our conversations, goggle
/nest home mini, echo dot and siri on the iphone.

And I make and receive almost all calls on my mobile
phone and always use speakerphone mode with it
when at home too and not once has anything we
have discussed showed up in an ad either.

I do mostly buy stuff on the net, quite a bit recently
and do get ads for the sort of stuff I have just bought.
I couldn't care less and don't even bother to fart
around with ad killers on my computer or phone.

On Sat, 5 Jun 2021 08:37:26 +0100, Brainless & Daft, the notorious,
troll-feeding senile idiot, blathered again:

If you go into the app, it can be good fun to see what you said and what it
thought you said in the history. Hours of laughs.
a lady play radio 2
A lady heard play radio tooth, sorry I cannot find that station here is
rap radio from Belfast.
I invented the names but it is the gist of how it can kind of be counter
intuitive?
Brainless & Daft

You're at least as full of **** as the troll you keep feeding, you
disgusting troll-feeding senile sicko, aka Blind, Brainless AND Daft!

Ads annoy me fully sighted, it must be many times worse for you. I can't even stand to see a single ad on a page. I can't watch or hear one single TV or radio ad without muting or fast forwarding. There are just so many of them it's become beyond a joke.


On Sat, 05 Jun 2021 08:42:51 +0100, Brian Gaff (Sofa) wrote:

The main gripe I have with inline ads on the web is that a wonderfully blind
accessible web site churns out adverts which can completely trash all the
care and design the site builder has taken by merely putting scrolling
graphics, or test as pictures, or some kind of dodgy formatting in the page.
I thus use add blockers and any site that does not like it and wants me to
pay them can go to hell, they should be looking first and foremost the
person whatever their disability, otherwise what is the point if folk are
going to click away?
Its not a new problem, Remember all those download sites that had pop ups
saying download me first etc?
bringing back text and ftp sites I say.
Brian

When I worked at a university, we did some studies on voice recognition. The main thing I found was more processing power makes a lot of difference. One of the systems we had, you could see it thinking about it, getting a better match as it went along. A slow processor can't keep up with a fast talker. I don't know how good a processor is in Alexas.


On Sat, 05 Jun 2021 08:37:26 +0100, Brian Gaff (Sofa) wrote:

If you go into the app, it can be good fun to see what you said and what it
thought you said in the history. Hours of laughs.
a lady play radio 2
A lady heard play radio tooth, sorry I cannot find that station here is
rap radio from Belfast.
I invented the names but it is the gist of how it can kind of be counter
intuitive?
Brian

Commander Kinsey wrote

When I worked at a university, we did some studies on voice recognition.
The main thing I found was more processing power makes a lot of
difference. One of the systems we had, you could see it thinking about
it, getting a better match as it went along. A slow processor can't keep
up with a fast talker. I don't know how good a processor is in Alexas.

Its pretty good, it doesn't get it wrong very often at all.

Very interesting watching siri on an iphone when
using voice input rather than the virtual keyboard,
you can see it changing the words as it uses
context to help with which word you intend.


Brian Gaff (Sofa) wrote

If you go into the app, it can be good fun to see what you said and what
it
thought you said in the history. Hours of laughs.
a lady play radio 2
A lady heard play radio tooth, sorry I cannot find that station here is
rap radio from Belfast.
I invented the names but it is the gist of how it can kind of be
counter
intuitive?
Brian

On Sun, 6 Jun 2021 06:20:35 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

FLUSH the two subnormal sociopathic cretins' endless absolutely idiotic
blather

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Another typical retarded "conversation" between Birdbrain and senile Rodent:

Senile Rodent: " Did you ever dig a hole to bury your own ****?"

Birdbrain: "I do if there's no flush toilet around."

Senile Rodent: "Yeah, I prefer camping like that, off by myself with
no dunnys around and have always buried the ****."

MID:

On 05/06/2021 18:49, Commander Kinsey wrote:

When I worked at a university, we did some studies on voice
recognition.* The main thing I found was more processing power makes a
lot of difference.* One of the systems we had, you could see it thinking
about it, getting a better match as it went along.* A slow processor
can't keep up with a fast talker.* I don't know how good a processor is
in Alexas.

Surely Alexa's processing is done centrally by the Amazon server.

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Max Demian

On Sat, 5 Jun 2021 22:04:22 +0100, Max Dumb, the REAL dumb, notorious,
troll-feeding senile idiot, blathered again:


Surely Alexa's processing is done centrally by the Amazon server.

Surely you ARE a typical demented troll-feeding senile ASSHOLE, Max Dumb!

On Sat, 05 Jun 2021 22:04:22 +0100, Max Demian wrote:

On 05/06/2021 18:49, Commander Kinsey wrote:

When I worked at a university, we did some studies on voice
recognition. The main thing I found was more processing power makes a
lot of difference. One of the systems we had, you could see it thinking
about it, getting a better match as it went along. A slow processor
can't keep up with a fast talker. I don't know how good a processor is
in Alexas.

Surely Alexa's processing is done centrally by the Amazon server.

That's a rather silly way to do it. They'd need a huge system, and there would be problems with latency. You don't need that much CPU to process voice, it should be inside the device.

Commander Kinsey wrote
Max Demian wrote
Commander Kinsey wrote

When I worked at a university, we did some studies on voice
recognition. The main thing I found was more processing
power makes a lot of difference. One of the systems we had,
you could see it thinking about it, getting a better match as
it went along. A slow processor can't keep up with a fast
talker. I don't know how good a processor is in Alexas.

Surely Alexa's processing is done centrally by the Amazon server.

That's a rather silly way to do it.

Nope.

They'd need a huge system,

But that approach allows very cheap computers in each device.

and there would be problems with latency.

In reality there isnt. The only downside is that
it doesn't work when the net isnt available.

You don't need that much CPU to process voice,

You previously said you need a lot.

it should be inside the device.

Not even possible with the answer to most questions.

There might just be a reason google isnt in the PC.

On 05/06/2021 22:04, Max Demian wrote:
On 05/06/2021 18:49, Commander Kinsey wrote:

When I worked at a university, we did some studies on voice
recognition.* The main thing I found was more processing power makes a
lot of difference.* One of the systems we had, you could see it
thinking about it, getting a better match as it went along.* A slow
processor can't keep up with a fast talker.* I don't know how good a
processor is in Alexas.

Surely Alexa's processing is done centrally by the Amazon server.


It is.

The device has beamforming in it with the microphone array to pick up
the direction of the loudest sound.

It ten uses local wakeword recognition for the Alexa keyword.

Only then does it start to stream audio to the server - starting just
_before_ the wakeword incidentally.

It's far too expensive to process audio in the servers all the time.

And BTW the mute button is hardware linked to the light. No software
hack can make it look deaf but not be deaf.

Andy

On Sun, 06 Jun 2021 21:12:31 +0100, Vir Campestris wrote:

On 05/06/2021 22:04, Max Demian wrote:
On 05/06/2021 18:49, Commander Kinsey wrote:

When I worked at a university, we did some studies on voice
recognition. The main thing I found was more processing power makes a
lot of difference. One of the systems we had, you could see it
thinking about it, getting a better match as it went along. A slow
processor can't keep up with a fast talker. I don't know how good a
processor is in Alexas.

Surely Alexa's processing is done centrally by the Amazon server.


It is.

The device has beamforming in it with the microphone array to pick up
the direction of the loudest sound.

It ten uses local wakeword recognition for the Alexa keyword.

Only then does it start to stream audio to the server - starting just
_before_ the wakeword incidentally.

It's far too expensive to process audio in the servers all the time.

And BTW the mute button is hardware linked to the light. No software
hack can make it look deaf but not be deaf.

This is stupid for two reasons. Firstly it's a privacy breach. Secondly why do all that processing in one place? You don't need much power to do voice recognition with today's processors, smartphones do it ffs.

Commander Kinsey wrote
Vir Campestris wrote
Max Demian wrote
Commander Kinsey wrote

When I worked at a university, we did some studies on voice
recognition. The main thing I found was more processing
power makes a lot of difference. One of the systems we
had, you could see it thinking about it, getting a better
match as it went along. A slow processor can't keep up with
a fast talker. I don't know how good a processor is in Alexas.

Surely Alexa's processing is done centrally by the Amazon server.

It is.

The device has beamforming in it with the microphone
array to pick up the direction of the loudest sound.

It ten uses local wakeword recognition for the Alexa keyword.

Only then does it start to stream audio to the server -
starting just _before_ the wakeword incidentally.

It's far too expensive to process audio in the servers all the time.

And BTW the mute button is hardware linked to the light.
No software hack can make it look deaf but not be deaf.

This is stupid for two reasons.

Nope, it's the only viable way to do it.

Firstly it's a privacy breach.

So is using google, making or receiving a phone
calls, driving anywhere, walking most places,
buying books, buying anything, talking to
anyone, using usenet etc etc etc. I don't care.

Secondly why do all that processing in one place?

It isnt all done in one place, its done in various places.

You don't need much power to do voice recognition
with today's processors, smartphones do it ffs.

But you do need lots of power to answer most questions
and so you might as well use that power to work out
what the person meant in context too even when
doing something simple like setting a timer etc.

On Tue, 8 Jun 2021 04:18:09 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

FLUSH the two subnormal sociopathic cretins' endless absolutely idiotic
blather

--
Another typical retarded "conversation" between Birdbrain and senile Rodent:

Senile Rodent: " Did you ever dig a hole to bury your own ****?"

Birdbrain: "I do if there's no flush toilet around."

Senile Rodent: "Yeah, I prefer camping like that, off by myself with
no dunnys around and have always buried the ****."

MID: