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My house has some sort of modern tongue-in-groove plank-style
wooden floor throughout the entryways, breakfast area, and kitchen, installed over the plywood sub-floor. I like the fact that wood is a comfortable surface for bare feet, but don't like the fact that every spill of water can be a problem and every dropped utensil can create another dent or gouge. Any suggestions? |
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On Sunday, February 10, 2019 at 12:44:27 PM UTC-5, Davej wrote:
My house has some sort of modern tongue-in-groove plank-style wooden floor throughout the entryways, breakfast area, and kitchen, installed over the plywood sub-floor. I like the fact that wood is a comfortable surface for bare feet, but don't like the fact that every spill of water can be a problem and every dropped utensil can create another dent or gouge. Any suggestions? I favor sheet vinyl. No seams for spilled milk to infiltrate. But it's no longer fashionable. Cindy Hamilton |
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![]() "Davej" wrote in message ... My house has some sort of modern tongue-in-groove plank-style wooden floor throughout the entryways, breakfast area, and kitchen, installed over the plywood sub-floor. I like the fact that wood is a comfortable surface for bare feet, but don't like the fact that every spill of water can be a problem and every dropped utensil can create another dent or gouge. Any suggestions? There is no ideal floor, if there was, everyone would have it. I prefer quarry tiles, but dropping plates and glasses etc usually sees them break. |
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![]() wrote in message ... On Sun, 10 Feb 2019 09:52:24 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Sunday, February 10, 2019 at 12:44:27 PM UTC-5, Davej wrote: My house has some sort of modern tongue-in-groove plank-style wooden floor throughout the entryways, breakfast area, and kitchen, installed over the plywood sub-floor. I like the fact that wood is a comfortable surface for bare feet, but don't like the fact that every spill of water can be a problem and every dropped utensil can create another dent or gouge. Any suggestions? I favor sheet vinyl. No seams for spilled milk to infiltrate. But it's no longer fashionable. I agree I liked the vinyl myself but my wife insisted on taking the ceramic tile we have in the rest of the house into the kitchen. Yeah, that's what I did too, quarry tiles everywhere. Not into carpet, because I have a dog most of the time. It is certainly durable and easy to clean but very unforgiving on anything you drop. I can't seem to hurt the tile Yeah, I havent ever chipped one and its easy to replace one if I did manage to do that. but I have certainly broken a lot of glasses, dishes or whatever. Yeah, specially the Corelles, shatter into a million pieces when dropped. |
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On Sunday, February 10, 2019 at 12:44:27 PM UTC-5, Davej wrote:
My house has some sort of modern tongue-in-groove plank-style wooden floor throughout the entryways, breakfast area, and kitchen, installed over the plywood sub-floor. I like the fact that wood is a comfortable surface for bare feet, but don't like the fact that every spill of water can be a problem and every dropped utensil can create another dent or gouge. Any suggestions? Suggestions for what? Replacing the wood floor? Or ideas to prevent the problems you cite, leaving the floor there? If it was me and the floor was in good condition, I'd just enjoy it and look at the positives. Like everything, there are tradeoffs. |
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On Sun, 10 Feb 2019 09:44:25 -0800 (PST), Davej
wrote: My house has some sort of modern tongue-in-groove plank-style wooden floor throughout the entryways, breakfast area, and kitchen, installed over the plywood sub-floor. I like the fact that wood is a comfortable surface for bare feet, but don't like the fact that every spill of water can be a problem and every dropped utensil can create another dent or gouge. Any suggestions? Solid premium vinyl |
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On 2/10/2019 3:00 PM, Clare Snyder wrote:
On Sun, 10 Feb 2019 09:44:25 -0800 (PST), Davej wrote: My house has some sort of modern tongue-in-groove plank-style wooden floor throughout the entryways, breakfast area, and kitchen, installed over the plywood sub-floor. I like the fact that wood is a comfortable surface for bare feet, but don't like the fact that every spill of water can be a problem and every dropped utensil can create another dent or gouge. Any suggestions? Solid premium vinyl Â* Armstrong used to have (and may still) a solid vinyl line that was really tough . Bitch to install too , had to warm it up to cut it . We're undecided whether to carry the (solid 3/4" prefinished oak)hardwood into the "wet" areas . I planned on ceramic or porcelain tile in the bathrooms and kitchen work area , but she kinda likes the idea of it all being hardwood . -- Snag Yes , I'm old and crochety - and armed . Get outta my woods ! |
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On 2019-02-10 2:45 p.m., Terry Coombs wrote:
On 2/10/2019 3:00 PM, Clare Snyder wrote: On Sun, 10 Feb 2019 09:44:25 -0800 (PST), Davej wrote: My house has some sort of modern tongue-in-groove plank-style wooden floor throughout the entryways, breakfast area, and kitchen, installed over the plywood sub-floor. I like the fact that wood is a comfortable surface for bare feet, but don't like the fact that every spill of water can be a problem and every dropped utensil can create another dent or gouge. Any suggestions? Solid premium vinyl Â* Armstrong used to have (and may still) a solid vinyl line that was really tough . Bitch to install too , had to warm it up to cut it . We're undecided whether to carry the (solid 3/4" prefinished oak)hardwood into the "wet" areas . I planned on ceramic or porcelain tile in the bathrooms and kitchen work area , but she kinda likes the idea of it all being hardwood . hardwood buckles nicely after a few spills on it |
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On Sun, 10 Feb 2019 13:40:55 -0500, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
My house has porcelain tile. Nice here in warm climate but you may not like it in cooler places. Very easy to clean. Agree on porcelain. Mine is 16"x24" with scalloped edges. In a brick pattern. Attractive, easy to clean. The entire house is also the same. A few rugs about and things are just fine. |
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Terry Coombs wrote:
On 2/10/2019 3:00 PM, Clare Snyder wrote: On Sun, 10 Feb 2019 09:44:25 -0800 (PST), Davej wrote: My house has some sort of modern tongue-in-groove plank-style wooden floor throughout the entryways, breakfast area, and kitchen, installed over the plywood sub-floor. I like the fact that wood is a comfortable surface for bare feet, but don't like the fact that every spill of water can be a problem and every dropped utensil can create another dent or gouge. Any suggestions? Solid premium vinyl Armstrong used to have (and may still) a solid vinyl line that was really tough . Bitch to install too , had to warm it up to cut it . We're undecided whether to carry the (solid 3/4" prefinished oak)hardwood into the "wet" areas . I planned on ceramic or porcelain tile in the bathrooms and kitchen work area , but she kinda likes the idea of it all being hardwood . It was called Solarian, if memory serves me right and yes a bitch to install especially in cold weather. I remember epoxy was used on seams |
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On 2/10/2019 6:00 PM, ChairMan wrote:
Terry Coombs wrote: On 2/10/2019 3:00 PM, Clare Snyder wrote: On Sun, 10 Feb 2019 09:44:25 -0800 (PST), Davej wrote: My house has some sort of modern tongue-in-groove plank-style wooden floor throughout the entryways, breakfast area, and kitchen, installed over the plywood sub-floor. I like the fact that wood is a comfortable surface for bare feet, but don't like the fact that every spill of water can be a problem and every dropped utensil can create another dent or gouge. Any suggestions? Solid premium vinyl Armstrong used to have (and may still) a solid vinyl line that was really tough . Bitch to install too , had to warm it up to cut it . We're undecided whether to carry the (solid 3/4" prefinished oak)hardwood into the "wet" areas . I planned on ceramic or porcelain tile in the bathrooms and kitchen work area , but she kinda likes the idea of it all being hardwood . It was called Solarian, if memory serves me right and yes a bitch to install especially in cold weather. I remember epoxy was used on seams Â* Yeah , Designer Solarian ! There were cheaper solids that didn't have the no-wax finish too . Best way we found to fit that stuff was to scribe a pattern from roofing felt and cut it out before it ever went into place . Sounds like you know a bit about the business , did y'all ever go coving ? Roll the flooring 4 1/2" up the wall with an aluminum cap strip . Fun ! -- Snag Yes , I'm old and crochety - and armed . Get outta my woods ! |
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On Sunday, February 10, 2019 at 4:02:56 PM UTC-5, Clare Snyder wrote:
On Sun, 10 Feb 2019 09:52:24 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Sunday, February 10, 2019 at 12:44:27 PM UTC-5, Davej wrote: My house has some sort of modern tongue-in-groove plank-style wooden floor throughout the entryways, breakfast area, and kitchen, installed over the plywood sub-floor. I like the fact that wood is a comfortable surface for bare feet, but don't like the fact that every spill of water can be a problem and every dropped utensil can create another dent or gouge. Any suggestions? I favor sheet vinyl. No seams for spilled milk to infiltrate. But it's no longer fashionable. Cindy Hamilton What do you mean? you can get it to look like ANYTHING that happens to be in fashion. - and the new premium vinyl product, although not "sheet" is still spill-proof - plank, tile, or whatever you want. Sure, you can get it to look like anything. But people--especially those who care what's in fashion--tend to want what's specifically fashionable. Plank? Really? What happens when I drop a glass of milk? Doesn't it seep down between the planks? I'll admit I haven't looked at flooring very closely because I'm not on the verge of remodeling my kitchen. Cindy Hamilton |
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On 2/11/19 6:16 AM, wrote:
Plank? Really? What happens when I drop a glass of milk? Doesn't it seep down between the planks? I'll admit I haven't looked at flooring very closely because I'm not on the verge of remodeling my kitchen. Cindy Hamilton Maybe this would help? https://www.amazon.com/Munchkin-Mira.../dp/B00MRZIGXY -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus |
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On Monday, February 11, 2019 at 6:16:56 AM UTC-5, wrote:
On Sunday, February 10, 2019 at 4:02:56 PM UTC-5, Clare Snyder wrote: On Sun, 10 Feb 2019 09:52:24 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Sunday, February 10, 2019 at 12:44:27 PM UTC-5, Davej wrote: My house has some sort of modern tongue-in-groove plank-style wooden floor throughout the entryways, breakfast area, and kitchen, installed over the plywood sub-floor. I like the fact that wood is a comfortable surface for bare feet, but don't like the fact that every spill of water can be a problem and every dropped utensil can create another dent or gouge. Any suggestions? I favor sheet vinyl. No seams for spilled milk to infiltrate. But it's no longer fashionable. Cindy Hamilton What do you mean? you can get it to look like ANYTHING that happens to be in fashion. - and the new premium vinyl product, although not "sheet" is still spill-proof - plank, tile, or whatever you want. Sure, you can get it to look like anything. But people--especially those who care what's in fashion--tend to want what's specifically fashionable. And usually there is a big difference in something that "looks like" and something that really is. Vinyl sheet flooring that looks like wood? Plank? Really? What happens when I drop a glass of milk? Doesn't it seep down between the planks? I'll admit I haven't looked at flooring very closely because I'm not on the verge of remodeling my kitchen. Cindy Hamilton The modern engineered hardwoods fit together very tightly. Apparently it's not a problem. I would be a bit worried about water leaks that put more water on it, where it may not be seen or detected for a long time, etc. though. |
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On Sunday, February 10, 2019 at 1:22:49 PM UTC-6, trader_4 wrote:
On Sunday, February 10, 2019 at 12:44:27 PM UTC-5, Davej wrote: My house has some sort of modern tongue-in-groove plank-style wooden floor...[...] Any suggestions? Suggestions for what? Replacing the wood floor? Or ideas to prevent the problems you cite, leaving the floor there? If it was me and the floor was in good condition, I'd just enjoy it and look at the positives. Like everything, there are tradeoffs. Hey, if there is a way to waterproof it I would be interested to hear. We thought it was a bit odd to have a wooden kitchen floor and I have had a few puddles that did soak in a bit. |
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On 2/11/2019 10:08 AM, Davej wrote:
On Sunday, February 10, 2019 at 1:22:49 PM UTC-6, trader_4 wrote: On Sunday, February 10, 2019 at 12:44:27 PM UTC-5, Davej wrote: My house has some sort of modern tongue-in-groove plank-style wooden floor...[...] Any suggestions? Suggestions for what? Replacing the wood floor? Or ideas to prevent the problems you cite, leaving the floor there? If it was me and the floor was in good condition, I'd just enjoy it and look at the positives. Like everything, there are tradeoffs. Hey, if there is a way to waterproof it I would be interested to hear. We thought it was a bit odd to have a wooden kitchen floor and I have had a few puddles that did soak in a bit. A few coats of polyurethane usually works. |
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On Monday, February 11, 2019 at 10:09:03 AM UTC-5, Davej wrote:
On Sunday, February 10, 2019 at 1:22:49 PM UTC-6, trader_4 wrote: On Sunday, February 10, 2019 at 12:44:27 PM UTC-5, Davej wrote: My house has some sort of modern tongue-in-groove plank-style wooden floor...[...] Any suggestions? Suggestions for what? Replacing the wood floor? Or ideas to prevent the problems you cite, leaving the floor there? If it was me and the floor was in good condition, I'd just enjoy it and look at the positives. Like everything, there are tradeoffs. Hey, if there is a way to waterproof it I would be interested to hear. We thought it was a bit odd to have a wooden kitchen floor and I have had a few puddles that did soak in a bit. IDK of any way to waterproof it, but wood floors in kitchens are not unusual. You see them here in NJ in the more expensive homes. I think it also depends on the actual wood used. For new floors, most often it's one of the pre-finished, engineered materials that combine a substrate with a thinner veneer of the desired wood. They have the finish applied at the factory and it's harder, more durable, more resistant to warping, etc. Most of those, the good ones for sure, can be refinished a couple times too. |
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On 2/10/2019 12:44 PM, Davej wrote:
My house has some sort of modern tongue-in-groove plank-style wooden floor throughout the entryways, breakfast area, and kitchen, installed over the plywood sub-floor. I like the fact that wood is a comfortable surface for bare feet, but don't like the fact that every spill of water can be a problem and every dropped utensil can create another dent or gouge. Any suggestions? I wanted hard wood when we built the house almost 10 years ago. However, we do have a large dog and hard wood was not recommended. So we put in laminate. It looks as good as when it was new. Yes there might be a ding here or there, but, it really doesn't show. The laminate even survived a situation when the fridge decided to turn itself off when we were on vacation. Water from the freezer did leak out and swell it a bit but after it dried the swelling now is almost invisible. In my previous house we had ceramic tile. If you dropped something glass on it, not only did the glass break, but the tile usually chipped. |
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![]() "Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message ... On 2/11/2019 10:08 AM, Davej wrote: On Sunday, February 10, 2019 at 1:22:49 PM UTC-6, trader_4 wrote: On Sunday, February 10, 2019 at 12:44:27 PM UTC-5, Davej wrote: My house has some sort of modern tongue-in-groove plank-style wooden floor...[...] Any suggestions? Suggestions for what? Replacing the wood floor? Or ideas to prevent the problems you cite, leaving the floor there? If it was me and the floor was in good condition, I'd just enjoy it and look at the positives. Like everything, there are tradeoffs. Hey, if there is a way to waterproof it I would be interested to hear. We thought it was a bit odd to have a wooden kitchen floor and I have had a few puddles that did soak in a bit. A few coats of polyurethane usually works. Yeah, thats what I did with some raw edges of chip board which have laminate on the work surfaces, up against the wall where they might get some spilled water at times. Works well, you never get any of the swelling you normally get with chip board that gets wet. |
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Terry Coombs wrote:
On 2/10/2019 6:00 PM, ChairMan wrote: Terry Coombs wrote: On 2/10/2019 3:00 PM, Clare Snyder wrote: On Sun, 10 Feb 2019 09:44:25 -0800 (PST), Davej wrote: My house has some sort of modern tongue-in-groove plank-style wooden floor throughout the entryways, breakfast area, and kitchen, installed over the plywood sub-floor. I like the fact that wood is a comfortable surface for bare feet, but don't like the fact that every spill of water can be a problem and every dropped utensil can create another dent or gouge. Any suggestions? Solid premium vinyl Armstrong used to have (and may still) a solid vinyl line that was really tough . Bitch to install too , had to warm it up to cut it . We're undecided whether to carry the (solid 3/4" prefinished oak)hardwood into the "wet" areas . I planned on ceramic or porcelain tile in the bathrooms and kitchen work area , but she kinda likes the idea of it all being hardwood . It was called Solarian, if memory serves me right and yes a bitch to install especially in cold weather. I remember epoxy was used on seams Yeah , Designer Solarian ! There were cheaper solids that didn't have the no-wax finish too . Best way we found to fit that stuff was to scribe a pattern from roofing felt and cut it out before it ever went into place . Sounds like you know a bit about the business , did y'all ever go coving ? Roll the flooring 4 1/2" up the wall with an aluminum cap strip . Fun ! Yup and it too was a pain in the ass. When I was much younger the guy I worked for did 99% Solarian. He was good at it and I got to do all the seams, scribing and epoxying.....oh the fun we had : ) |
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On Sun, 10 Feb 2019 18:07:02 -0600, Terry Coombs
wrote: On 2/10/2019 6:00 PM, ChairMan wrote: Terry Coombs wrote: On 2/10/2019 3:00 PM, Clare Snyder wrote: On Sun, 10 Feb 2019 09:44:25 -0800 (PST), Davej wrote: My house has some sort of modern tongue-in-groove plank-style wooden floor throughout the entryways, breakfast area, and kitchen, installed over the plywood sub-floor. I like the fact that wood is a comfortable surface for bare feet, but don't like the fact that every spill of water can be a problem and every dropped utensil can create another dent or gouge. Any suggestions? Solid premium vinyl Armstrong used to have (and may still) a solid vinyl line that was really tough . Bitch to install too , had to warm it up to cut it . We're undecided whether to carry the (solid 3/4" prefinished oak)hardwood into the "wet" areas . I planned on ceramic or porcelain tile in the bathrooms and kitchen work area , but she kinda likes the idea of it all being hardwood . It was called Solarian, if memory serves me right and yes a bitch to install especially in cold weather. I remember epoxy was used on seams * Yeah , Designer Solarian ! There were cheaper solids that didn't have the no-wax finish too . Best way we found to fit that stuff was to scribe a pattern from roofing felt and cut it out before it ever went into place . Sounds like you know a bit about the business , did y'all ever go coving ? Roll the flooring 4 1/2" up the wall with an aluminum cap strip . Fun ! Looks just like Terrazo. Used a lot in institutional installations where the corners are water-tight and easy to keep clean. |
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Clare Snyder wrote:
On Sun, 10 Feb 2019 18:00:16 -0600, "ChairMan" no wrote: Terry Coombs wrote: On 2/10/2019 3:00 PM, Clare Snyder wrote: On Sun, 10 Feb 2019 09:44:25 -0800 (PST), Davej wrote: My house has some sort of modern tongue-in-groove plank-style wooden floor throughout the entryways, breakfast area, and kitchen, installed over the plywood sub-floor. I like the fact that wood is a comfortable surface for bare feet, but don't like the fact that every spill of water can be a problem and every dropped utensil can create another dent or gouge. Any suggestions? Solid premium vinyl Armstrong used to have (and may still) a solid vinyl line that was really tough . Bitch to install too , had to warm it up to cut it . We're undecided whether to carry the (solid 3/4" prefinished oak)hardwood into the "wet" areas . I planned on ceramic or porcelain tile in the bathrooms and kitchen work area , but she kinda likes the idea of it all being hardwood . It was called Solarian, if memory serves me right and yes a bitch to install especially in cold weather. I remember epoxy was used on seams Custom Solarian solid vinyl - what was installed in our kitchen and mainfloor bath - It's not Epoxy that is used - but a special vinyl cement that chemically "welds" the vinyl. It was two part epoxy when I was installing it, mid 70s it did change in late 70's early 80s Strange story on ours - we "won" it at a home show - all we had to pay was the installation. They brought it in about 8am on a cold Ontario December day and started laying it. They were done well before noon (I was at work - wife was home). When I got home I found there were 2 corners where it was visibly cracked - due to the "installers" not knowing what they were doing and working it while still cold and stiff. I called and told them they had 2 options - and only 2. Eother come and rip it out and replace it properly, or forget about the installation fee. They decided it was a lot cheaper to forget the installation fee. I can live with 2 cracks about 1/2 inch long - particularly after I glued them - they hardly show even now 20 - some odd years later. |
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