On Thu, 22 Feb 2018 07:44:51 +0000, Peter Hill
wrote:

On 21-Feb-18 7:30 PM, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Wed, 21 Feb 2018 18:50:37 -0000, Peter Hill
wrote:

On 21-Feb-18 10:19 AM, alan_m wrote:
On 21/02/2018 01:45, Ed Pawlowski wrote:


The robots don't care where they are.* OTOH, look where the car makers
have put up plants.* No new ones in Detroit, New York, or California.
Mexico has some.

The robots may not care where they live but it still needs a large,
mainly unskilled or semi-skilled workforce to feed them and to perform
all the other tasks that currently cannot be assigned to robots.

You need a smaller but very skilled workforce to maintain and repair the
robots.

That's the UK out then.


China and India are turning out 1000's of engineers every year. Indian
engineers work for about 1/2 the price of UK engineers and 1/3 the price
of the best sub-con consultancies. Mind you many of the analysis jobs
that get put out there have to be done 3x before they get it right but
overall it's cheaper.

Polish engineers are cheaper than US and UK and high quality.
https://www.edc.pl/
I work with 2 that have moved to the UK.

In UK many with the STEM skills that are required for engineering go
into finance and earn 2.5-5x what engineers earn.


From my experience I wouldn't give you a nickel for a whole boatload
of indian Engineers less than 55 years old.

Same goes for British Engineers.

Most of them couldn't figure out how to get out of a wet paper bag
when it comes to troubleshooting.

The damage they do before they get it right means unless they are
paying YOU, the job will NEVER be cheaper - it's like saying you loose
money on every job, but you'll make up for it in volume.

Clare Snyder wrote:

Did you replace both?
If you didn't you area HACK, pure and simple - as that is niot
"damage" but "deterioration" and is totally age related.

The vehicle is two decades old so it's perfectly logical for that to be an
age-related deterioration in the brake lines.

There are six flexible brake lines, so I think I'll buy the entire set.

A lot of people put in SS braided lines but I think that's overkill because
the lines don't bulge all that much during braking.

Clare Snyder posted for all of us...



On Sat, 17 Feb 2018 22:40:45 -0800, ultred ragnusen
wrote:

wrote:

The clicker is easier to use, the bar style may actually be more
accurate if the clicker was not calibrated recently.

I don't know how to "calibrate" a torque wrench at home.
Do you?
You can't. You can check it but you don't have or want ior need the
equipment to adjust the calibration.

Don't get started on the "doing it myself I will do a better job than
????" crap either!!!!

Now Clare, you realize your nemesis has started this subject.

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wrote:

Third question is related to this combination pictu
http://wetakepic.com/images/2018/02/17/torquewrench.jpg
Where this question is a combination question of:
a. Why is the green 21mm "lug wrench" so very short compared to all others?
To fit in the hole they store the tools in.

I can't disagree that the shape and length of a purposeful "lug wrench" is
designed just for removing lug nuts, so certainly that's why it's curved
the way it is (to fit around the tire sidewall).

Certainly smaller is easier to fit in a car.

Since you can't use a torque wrench and a lug wrench at the same time, I
was wondering if they made it just short enough so that a normal person
could not apply "too much" torque to the lug bolts?

Basically, I was asking if it's short because that way, a normal human can
only apply about 85 foot pounds which is all they can do with that short
bar and their hands?

Is that just an urban myth?

Yes the only reason you got this one is because they ran out of cheaper
ones. Some new cars do not have spares...

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I was ALMOST certain we were dealing with the same Looney under a
different name - now I KNOW it - and way back then I gave a solution
to the accellerated wear you were bitching and complaining about. AIR
UP YOUR TIRES!!!! Rotating your tires does not reduce the wear - it
just distributes it. A bit more air in the tire will keep it from
squirming/leaning/feathering. So will using a tire better suited to
your bob-sled-run twisty downhill roads.

Since the spare is a different brand, I rotate in the classic four-wheel
II-X-II-X pattern that puts each tire at each of the four corners over a
period of 12K miles (about 8 to 10 months of driving) - and - when I rotate
- I inspect the entire carcass for pebbles & shards as shown here from this
weekend.
http://wetakepic.com/images/2018/02/18/splinter1.jpg

To overcome some of the boredom of plucking detritus out of the tread, I
count the objects removed, where there are always more than 50 per tire, so
I try to approach a count of 100 objects removed, some of which turn out to
be this (staple?) shard I found yesterday.
http://wetakepic.com/images/2018/02/18/splinter2.jpg

While you intimate that the periodic inspection and rotation of tires has
"gone out of style", my reasonably logical position is that the selection,
mounting, balancing, pressurizing, inspection, repair, and rotation of
tires is a reasonable and rational act that results in increased safety and
life of the tires - partly because removing something like this shard never
goes out of style!
http://wetakepic.com/images/2018/02/18/splinter3.jpg


Damned engineers - - -

Yup, I posted earlier, before I got down here, this is the same numnut. I
forget what his NYMS were.

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I'm an electrical engineer - but this has nothing to do with that.


For what? The certainarc&shortout switch co?

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In article ,
alan_m wrote:
On 22/02/2018 14:27, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

Ah - right. Brexit is only about controlling 'immigration' from the EU,
then? All others will be free to come and go as they please? Figures.


Nothing to do with immigration. Someone coming in from anywhere in the
world to fix a robot on behalf a company is not expecting residency!

Still going to need controls on who can and cannot come into the country.
If you're going to stop itinerate EU fruit pickers who don't come to
settle here either. Just to do a job of work.

I really can't see how you can have tight control over boarders while
still making it easy for a foreign national to enter the country quickly -
as would be needed in this case.

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On Thu, 22 Feb 2018 17:10:53 -0500, Tekkie®
wrote:

ultred ragnusen posted for all of us...


I'm an electrical engineer - but this has nothing to do with that.


It's a mentality.



For what? The certainarc&shortout switch co?

Tekkie® wrote:

this is the same numnut

Tekkie, why can't you simply post an on-topic value-added response to a
technical question?

Why do you feel the incessant desire to continually troll with your
meaningless banter?

Have you really absolutely zero value to add?

On 02/22/2018 12:36 PM, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Thu, 22 Feb 2018 01:12:46 -0000, alan_m wrote:

On 22/02/2018 00:29, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

Not a problem. Once out of the EU, you just issue work permits to the
Germans needed. When a robot breaks down, shouldn't take more than a
couple of months to get the paperwork needed, and a few days to get
through the border checks.

What makes you think that you require German engineers rather than
Korean?

Lower air fare?


What was the name of that British king who invited Hengist and Horsa
over to solve a few problems? Britain has taken over 70 years to lose
WWII. That's got to be a record.

On 22-Feb-18 2:45 PM, Scott Dorsey wrote:
alan_m wrote:
On 22/02/2018 00:29, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

Not a problem. Once out of the EU, you just issue work permits to the
Germans needed. When a robot breaks down, shouldn't take more than a
couple of months to get the paperwork needed, and a few days to get
through the border checks.

What makes you think that you require German engineers rather than Korean?

All the best robots are German. This valuable training video may have
some information on the subject: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5DBc5NpyEoo
--scott


4 robots on tour doesn't rate on the list of TOP 14 world industrial
robotic makers.

https://roboticsandautomationnews.co...the-world/812/

ABB are 3rd and they aren't German. Facilities for research, development
and manufacturing located in Sweden, Czech Republic, Norway, Mexico,
Japan, USA and China.

Stäubli is Swiss.

So no Germans with an installed base of more than 20,000 robots. In the
main makers of industrial robots are Asian.

The Germans do make a lot of CNC controls.

On Thu, 22 Feb 2018 22:35:06 -0700, lowbrowman, yet another endlessly
driveling senile idiot, blabbered again:

Lower air fare?


What was the name of that British king who invited Hengist and Horsa
over to solve a few problems? Britain has taken over 70 years to lose
WWII. That's got to be a record.

What's the name of the senile Yank who keeps sucking the filthy Scottish
******'s cock on every occasion, lowbrowman? At least the Scottish sow no
longer needs to wank, thanks to you! BG

On 23/02/2018 00:21, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

Still going to need controls on who can and cannot come into the country.
If you're going to stop itinerate EU fruit pickers who don't come to
settle here either. Just to do a job of work.

I'm not sure that non-UK itinerate EU fruit pickers assemble cars!

Leaving the EU will not stop EU fruit pickers coming to work - just that
they will probably need a work permit, have proof that the job exists,
have no automatic rights to (unemployment or in-work) benefits nor a
right to long term residency. In the case of fruit pickers .We will
probably just go back to the system similar to that which worked prior
to the EU concept of freedom of movement.


I really can't see how you can have tight control over boarders while
still making it easy for a foreign national to enter the country quickly -
as would be needed in this case.


The same way as UK companies can send someone to the USA or Australia
for similar. The company supplying the robots will have a service
contract with service people available with the appropriate paper work
already in place.


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On 23/02/2018 05:35, rbowman wrote:

What was the name of that British king who invited Hengist and Horsa
over to solve a few problems? Britain has taken over 70 years to lose
WWII. That's got to be a record.

It took the UK until 2006 to pay back the loans made by USA and Canada
during WW2.

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On 22/02/2018 00:29, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Wed, 21 Feb 2018 18:50:37 -0000, Peter Hill wrote:

On 21-Feb-18 10:19 AM, alan_m wrote:
On 21/02/2018 01:45, Ed Pawlowski wrote:


The robots don't care where they are. OTOH, look where the car makers
have put up plants. No new ones in Detroit, New York, or California.
Mexico has some.

The robots may not care where they live but it still needs a large,
mainly unskilled or semi-skilled workforce to feed them and to perform
all the other tasks that currently cannot be assigned to robots.

You need a smaller but very skilled workforce to maintain and repair the
robots.

That's the UK out then.

Not a problem. Once out of the EU, you just issue work permits to the
Germans needed. When a robot breaks down, shouldn't take more than a
couple of months to get the paperwork needed, and a few days to get
through the border checks.

Only a loser Remoaner could bring up Brexit in a thread like this.

If you know as much about Brexit as you do Newtonian Mechanics.....

On 02/23/2018 06:50 AM, alan_m wrote:
On 23/02/2018 05:35, rbowman wrote:

What was the name of that British king who invited Hengist and Horsa
over to solve a few problems? Britain has taken over 70 years to lose
WWII. That's got to be a record.

It took the UK until 2006 to pay back the loans made by USA and Canada
during WW2.


When Britain tried to weasel out of WWI debt, Calvin Coolidge famously
said 'They hired the money, didn't they?'

https://winstonchurchill.hillsdale.e...lvin-coolidge/

Coolidge saw through that blustering windbag Churchill. Churchill should
have retired to a farm and raised collies after his WWI disgrace rather
than fomenting another war trying to prove a hero. He was as wrong
headed as G.W. Bush trying to show pops how it is done.

In article ,
Fredxx wrote:
Not a problem. Once out of the EU, you just issue work permits to the
Germans needed. When a robot breaks down, shouldn't take more than a
couple of months to get the paperwork needed, and a few days to get
through the border checks.

Only a loser Remoaner could bring up Brexit in a thread like this.

Very valid when considering the manufacturing future of the UK. Not that
I'd expect you to care much about that.

If you know as much about Brexit as you do Newtonian Mechanics.....

You really are a poor loser.

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On 23/02/2018 15:37, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

Very valid when considering the manufacturing future of the UK. Not that
I'd expect you to care much about that.

Whilst in the EEC/EU for 40 years many UK companies out-sourced their
manufacturing to the far east! The EU has done bugger all for a lot of
the UK manufacturing industries so would have been unlikely to have done
so in the future.


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In article ,
alan_m wrote:
On 23/02/2018 15:37, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

Very valid when considering the manufacturing future of the UK. Not that
I'd expect you to care much about that.

Whilst in the EEC/EU for 40 years many UK companies out-sourced their
manufacturing to the far east! The EU has done bugger all for a lot of
the UK manufacturing industries so would have been unlikely to have done
so in the future.

Not quite sure the point you're making? Are those UK companies like Dyson
going to bring back manufacturing to the UK after we leave the EU? Or will
it simply speed up even more leaving? Like Nissan, BMW, Jaguar, etc?

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On 23/02/2018 23:52, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
alan_m wrote:
On 23/02/2018 15:37, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

Very valid when considering the manufacturing future of the UK. Not that
I'd expect you to care much about that.

Whilst in the EEC/EU for 40 years many UK companies out-sourced their
manufacturing to the far east! The EU has done bugger all for a lot of
the UK manufacturing industries so would have been unlikely to have done
so in the future.

Not quite sure the point you're making? Are those UK companies like Dyson
going to bring back manufacturing to the UK after we leave the EU? Or will
it simply speed up even more leaving? Like Nissan, BMW, Jaguar, etc?


The point I'm making it is not as clear cut as in or out of the EU.

Many companies, both in the UK and other EU countries who sell us goods
that the majority of us can afford currently have outsourced their
manufacturing to the far east or countries outside of the EU. They are
not operating within the the single market for manufacturing but find
easy to bring the goods into the EU through all the red tape,
bureaucracy and tariffs the doom and gloom merchants would have us
believe would stop all future trade with the EU - or even the rest of
the world if no free trade deals exist.

If you are that worried about protecting British car working jobs buy a
car assembled in the UK rather than a foreign built car. If all those
advocating remaining in the EU did so then the production at UK car
plants wouldn't need exports of cars in order to survive and imports of
completed cars would reduce - a win, win situation.

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In article ,
alan_m wrote:
If you are that worried about protecting British car working jobs buy a
car assembled in the UK rather than a foreign built car. If all those
advocating remaining in the EU did so then the production at UK car
plants wouldn't need exports of cars in order to survive and imports of
completed cars would reduce - a win, win situation.

You are suggesting fortress UK? How do we get the energy and food needed
in? Let alone everything else we don't make.

Brexiteers saying we can do well setting up new deals with the rest of the
world outside the EU just so much hogwash?

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On Sun, 18 Feb 2018 20:26:41 +0000, MrCheerful wrote:

On 18/02/2018 19:46, BurfordTJustice wrote:
No need to with those little **** ant things you blokes call cars.


That must be why merkins are so keen to own English cars.

Last time I was in the States, over a dozen years ago even, I was *so*
disappointed not to see any of the great classic gas-guzzlers on the
roads. Everyone seemed to be driving small Jap cars and it's probably
even worse today with these stupid little Prius things that douchebags
like Brian Griffin drives.

On 24/02/2018 12:01, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
How do we get the energy and food needed
in? Let alone everything else we don't make.

Exactly in the same way as we do now. Do you really believe French,
Dutch and Spanish farmers etc. are not going sell us their tasteless
fruit and vegetables. Do you think we will be unable to buy gas from
Russia or washing machines from Turkey or TVs from Korea when we leave
the EU? Do you think that all that food you currently see in every
supermarket from 101 different countries outside the EU is suddenly
going to rot waiting for months in a customs sheds?




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alan_m wrote:
If you are that worried about protecting British car working jobs buy a
car assembled in the UK rather than a foreign built car. If all those
advocating remaining in the EU did so then the production at UK car
plants wouldn't need exports of cars in order to survive and imports of
completed cars would reduce - a win, win situation.

I assure you that if I could afford a Morgan I'd be driving one today.
--scott


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In article ,
alan_m wrote:
On 24/02/2018 12:01, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
How do we get the energy and food needed
in? Let alone everything else we don't make.

Exactly in the same way as we do now. Do you really believe French,
Dutch and Spanish farmers etc. are not going sell us their tasteless
fruit and vegetables. Do you think we will be unable to buy gas from
Russia or washing machines from Turkey or TVs from Korea when we leave
the EU? Do you think that all that food you currently see in every
supermarket from 101 different countries outside the EU is suddenly
going to rot waiting for months in a customs sheds?

Ah - right. Of course we will be able to buy things from anywhere and with
some food cheaper than the EU.

What you haven't answered is just how we pay for these imports. Which is
the $64k question.

At the moment the majority of the UK's income is from financial etc
services. Not selling Jaguars or whatever. Many such financial operations
base themselves here because of access to the EU. And are high wage
operations. With many nationalities working in them. Several very
attractive places to live in Europe would just love to have them re-locate
there.

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In article ,
Scott Dorsey wrote:
alan_m wrote:
If you are that worried about protecting British car working jobs buy
a car assembled in the UK rather than a foreign built car. If all
those advocating remaining in the EU did so then the production at UK
car plants wouldn't need exports of cars in order to survive and
imports of completed cars would reduce - a win, win situation.

I assure you that if I could afford a Morgan I'd be driving one today.
--scott

Hi Scott - good to see you're still around. ;-)

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On 24/02/2018 13:51, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
alan_m wrote:
On 24/02/2018 12:01, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
How do we get the energy and food needed
in? Let alone everything else we don't make.

Exactly in the same way as we do now. Do you really believe French,
Dutch and Spanish farmers etc. are not going sell us their tasteless
fruit and vegetables. Do you think we will be unable to buy gas from
Russia or washing machines from Turkey or TVs from Korea when we leave
the EU? Do you think that all that food you currently see in every
supermarket from 101 different countries outside the EU is suddenly
going to rot waiting for months in a customs sheds?

Ah - right. Of course we will be able to buy things from anywhere and with
some food cheaper than the EU.

What you haven't answered is just how we pay for these imports. Which is
the $64k question.

At the moment the majority of the UK's income is from financial etc
services. Not selling Jaguars or whatever. Many such financial operations
base themselves here because of access to the EU. And are high wage
operations. With many nationalities working in them. Several very
attractive places to live in Europe would just love to have them re-locate
there.




Do you mean the same financial services the cost of which to bail them
out will be paid for by your children's children?
Do you mean the same financial services that illegally fiddled the rates
so that mortgages in the UK were more expensive?
Do you mean the same financial services that have been fined billions by
the US, UK and European regulators?
Do you mean the same financial services that are so well run that a lack
of due diligence has resulted in foreign bank/investment acquisitions
making massive losses?
Do you mean that the same financial services that caused many viable
small UK companies to go to the wall so that they could be asset stripped?
Do you mean the same financial services that constructed worthless
investments that no insider trader would touch with a barge pole?
Do you mean that same financial services that have written off billions
for mis-selling PPI?
Do you mean the same financial services where loyalty to them is
rewarded with high charges than for disloyal or new customers?

Again not as simple as in or out of the EU......

Many of these companies are more likely to go to new York or the far
East rather than migrating to the rest of Europe.

The credibility of financial services in the Euro zone may take a big
hit if a few basket case EU countries start defaulting on their loans. A
lot of Euro zone financial problems have be swept under the carpet to
resurface in a few year's time.

In a few years time, or perhaps even today, with modern technology it
will not matter where in the world you sit to run a financial service.

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On Sat, 24 Feb 2018 13:51:46 +0000 (GMT), "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:

In article ,
alan_m wrote:
On 24/02/2018 12:01, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
How do we get the energy and food needed
in? Let alone everything else we don't make.

Exactly in the same way as we do now. Do you really believe French,
Dutch and Spanish farmers etc. are not going sell us their tasteless
fruit and vegetables. Do you think we will be unable to buy gas from
Russia or washing machines from Turkey or TVs from Korea when we leave
the EU? Do you think that all that food you currently see in every
supermarket from 101 different countries outside the EU is suddenly
going to rot waiting for months in a customs sheds?

Ah - right. Of course we will be able to buy things from anywhere and with
some food cheaper than the EU.

What you haven't answered is just how we pay for these imports. Which is
the $64k question.

At the moment the majority of the UK's income is from financial etc
services. Not selling Jaguars or whatever. Many such financial operations
base themselves here because of access to the EU. And are high wage
operations. With many nationalities working in them. Several very
attractive places to live in Europe would just love to have them re-locate
there.


Including places where the sun actually shines and you can actually
buy a decent cuppa tea.

On 24/02/2018 15:01, alan_m wrote:
On 24/02/2018 13:51, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Â*Â*Â* alan_m wrote:
On 24/02/2018 12:01, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
How do we get the energy and food needed
in? Let alone everything else we don't make.

Exactly in the same way as we do now. Do you really believe French,
Dutch and Spanish farmers etc. are not going sell us their tasteless
fruit and vegetables. Do you think we will be unable to buy gas from
Russia or washing machines from Turkey or TVs from Korea when we leave
the EU?Â* Do you think that all that food you currently see in every
supermarket from 101 different countries outside the EU is suddenly
going to rot waiting for months in a customs sheds?

Ah - right. Of course we will be able to buy things from anywhere and
with
some food cheaper than the EU.

What you haven't answered is just how we pay for these imports. Which is
the $64k question.

At the moment the majority of the UK's income is from financial etc
services. Not selling Jaguars or whatever. Many such financial operations
base themselves here because of access to the EU. And are high wage
operations. With many nationalities working in them.Â* Several very
attractive places to live in Europe would just love to have them
re-locate
there.




Do you mean the same financial services the cost of which to bail them
out will be paid for by your children's children?
Do you mean the same financial services that illegally fiddled the rates
so that mortgages in the UK were more expensive?
Do you mean the same financial services that have been fined billions by
the US, UK and European regulators?
Do you mean the same financial services that are so well run that a lack
of due diligence has resulted in foreign bank/investment acquisitions
making massive losses?
Do you mean that the same financial services that caused many viable
small UK companies to go to the wall so that they could be asset stripped?
Do you mean the same financial services that constructed worthless
investments that no insider trader would touch with a barge pole?
Do you mean that same financial services that have written off billions
for mis-selling PPI?
Do you mean the same financial services where loyalty to them is
rewarded with high charges than for disloyal or new customers?

Again not as simple as in or out of the EU......


I think it more or less is - they'll still be getting up to that
shenanigans wherever they are.

Many of these companies are more likely to go to new York or the far
East rather than migrating to the rest of Europe.

The credibility of financial services in the Euro zone may take a big
hit if a few basket case EU countries start defaulting on their loans. A
lot of Euro zone financial problems have be swept under the carpet to
resurface in a few year's time.

In a few years time, or perhaps even today, with modern technology it
will not matter where in the world you sit to run a financial service.


Were it not for the fact that location is a source of inward investment
and of course jobs. While the UK financial services sector doesn't do
much in terms of productivity it directly employs about 10% of the
workforce - at least. That 10% is linked to jobs across sectors. Whether
I like the sector or not, that still has to be factored in.
--
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On Sat, 24 Feb 2018 13:10:08 -0000 (UTC), Chris
wrote:

On Sun, 18 Feb 2018 20:26:41 +0000, MrCheerful wrote:

On 18/02/2018 19:46, BurfordTJustice wrote:
No need to with those little **** ant things you blokes call cars.


That must be why merkins are so keen to own English cars.

Last time I was in the States, over a dozen years ago even, I was *so*
disappointed not to see any of the great classic gas-guzzlers on the
roads. Everyone seemed to be driving small Jap cars and it's probably
even worse today with these stupid little Prius things that douchebags
like Brian Griffin drives.
You still see them on the road on sunny summer weekends and evenings
when the rich boys get to play with their toys.

Can't afford to drive them as daily drivers and risk damaging them. I
was also dissapointed when traveling in Europe 10 or 15 years ago to
not see a single Mk1 Mini, early Beetle - or even VW1500 Variants, or
Bay window busses - no R4 or even R5 Renaults. No 128 Fiats, no A35s.
No Devons or Cambridges. No R12 or R16s. No Peugot 404, 304, etc. I
saw ONE 204 wagon rusting away in a side-yard on Madiera and a Robin
somewhere in the Canary Islands.

The only thing over 20 years old in NMorrocco were the ancient French
trucks

You want to see old American Iron in daily use go to Cuba.

That beautifull 55 Chevy may very well have a 1.5 liter Lada diesel in
it - or an old Mercedes but it still LOOKS like American Iron.

On 24/02/2018 19:30, RJH wrote:

Were it not for the fact that location is a source of inward investment
and of course jobs. While the UK financial services sector doesn't do
much in terms of productivity it directly employs about 10% of the
workforce - at least. That 10% is linked to jobs across sectors. Whether
I like the sector or not, that still has to be factored in.



Is it sensible to rely on a sector that next year could be run from an
office building in India with an additional staffing level of perhaps
less than 100 people in each country they are servicing?

Currently more and more of us don't set foot in a UK bank branch or
haven't had need to contact an actual person for years for an Internet
bank account or investment. The number of people the financial services
employ in the UK is dwindling.


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On 24/02/2018 13:20, Scott Dorsey wrote:

I assure you that if I could afford a Morgan

Isn't that just an up-market Reliant Robin with the third wheel fitted
at the wrong end?



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On 02/24/2018 06:20 AM, Scott Dorsey wrote:
alan_m wrote:
If you are that worried about protecting British car working jobs buy a
car assembled in the UK rather than a foreign built car. If all those
advocating remaining in the EU did so then the production at UK car
plants wouldn't need exports of cars in order to survive and imports of
completed cars would reduce - a win, win situation.

I assure you that if I could afford a Morgan I'd be driving one today.
--scott



I wouldn't mind one of the three wheeled varieties.

On 02/24/2018 06:51 AM, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
At the moment the majority of the UK's income is from financial etc
services. Not selling Jaguars or whatever. Many such financial operations
base themselves here because of access to the EU. And are high wage
operations. With many nationalities working in them. Several very
attractive places to live in Europe would just love to have them re-locate
there.

And they won't even have to go very far with the Republic of Ireland
staying in the EU. London or Dublin, doesn't make much difference.

alan_m wrote:
On 24/02/2018 13:20, Scott Dorsey wrote:

I assure you that if I could afford a Morgan

Isn't that just an up-market Reliant Robin with the third wheel fitted
at the wrong end?

They do still make the three-wheeler but I was thinking more of the
4/4, which is still made of wood but has four wheels and a real engine.
It is one of the most fun-to-drive cars made today. And less scary to
drive than the Ariel Atom.
--scott

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On 2/24/2018 2:58 PM, alan_m wrote:
On 24/02/2018 13:20, Scott Dorsey wrote:

I assure you that if I could afford a Morgan

Isn't that just an up-market Reliant Robin with the third
wheel fitted at the wrong end?





He probably meant a Morgan 4
http://www.conceptcarz.com/images/Mo...V-11-GG_01.jpg

I assume anyone who finds a three wheeler desirable would
just get a new Prius or 'smart' or some such.

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On Sat, 24 Feb 2018 15:01:02 +0000, alan_m wrote:

Do you mean the same financial services the cost of which to bail them
out will be paid for by your children's children?
[...]

That was a bit cruel, Alan. Dave is not accustomed to being so brutally
confronted by facts.



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On Sat, 24 Feb 2018 14:19:38 -0700, rbowman wrote:

And they won't even have to go very far with the Republic of Ireland
staying in the EU. London or Dublin, doesn't make much difference.

Good point. Let the Irish pick up the tab for their next megafailure.




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On Sat, 24 Feb 2018 20:58:19 +0000, alan_m
wrote:

On 24/02/2018 13:20, Scott Dorsey wrote:

I assure you that if I could afford a Morgan

Isn't that just an up-market Reliant Robin with the third wheel fitted
at the wrong end?
You've obviously never seen a Plus4 or Plus 8 - or the fantastic new
Aero 8- - -

On 24/02/2018 23:07, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Sat, 24 Feb 2018 14:19:38 -0700, rbowman wrote:

And they won't even have to go very far with the Republic of Ireland
staying in the EU. London or Dublin, doesn't make much difference.

Good point. Let the Irish pick up the tab for their next megafailure.


The UK government bailed out Dublin the last time to the tune of £14
billion. Any country that hosts financial institutions deemed too big to
fail will have to have deep pockets.


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