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How far can you drive your car with all the lug nuts removed?

This is a real challenge. Remove all the lug nuts from all the tires on
your car. Get in the car, and drive. How far can you drive without
having a wheel fall off? This takes real skill, and separates the boys
from the men.

Try it, and post your distance on this newsgroup. The person driving
the furthest before a wheel falls off is the winner of the *BEST DRIVER
AWARD*. "Watch your speedometer for the distance".

* DO NOT do this in traffic. Do it on a private road or a little used
back road, when there is no traffic. Be sure to have your lug nuts in
the car, along with a jack, and a lug wrench. Sooner or later at least
one wheel will fall off, and you'll have to raise the car and put the
wheel back on, with the lug nuts.


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willshak,

I'm guessing the OP has not seen wire wheels. No lug nuts. "Removing the
lug nuts from the tires" is rather funny, too.

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How far can you drive your car with all the lug nuts removed?


This is a real challenge. *Remove all the lug nuts from all the tires on
your car.


I don't have lug nuts on my tires.


Is that like, "if a rooster laid an egg on the peak of a roof
......................"?

Steve


At least that one has something going for it...as opposed to the
sophmoric OP's.

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How far can you drive your car with all the lug nuts removed?

This is a real challenge. Remove all the lug nuts from all the tires on
your car. Get in the car, and drive. How far can you drive without
having a wheel fall off? This takes real skill, and separates the boys
from the men.

Try it, and post your distance on this newsgroup. The person driving
the furthest before a wheel falls off is the winner of the *BEST DRIVER
AWARD*. "Watch your speedometer for the distance".

* DO NOT do this in traffic. Do it on a private road or a little used
back road, when there is no traffic. Be sure to have your lug nuts in
the car, along with a jack, and a lug wrench. Sooner or later at least
one wheel will fall off, and you'll have to raise the car and put the
wheel back on, with the lug nuts.


Someone here was driving after having tires put on at national tire and
battery. Going over a bridge wheel spun off damaging fender. Had to get
toad.

Greg
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How far can you drive your car with all the lug nuts removed?

This is a real challenge. Remove all the lug nuts from all the tires on
your car. Get in the car, and drive. How far can you drive without
having a wheel fall off? This takes real skill, and separates the boys
from the men.

Try it, and post your distance on this newsgroup. The person driving
the furthest before a wheel falls off is the winner of the *BEST DRIVER
AWARD*. "Watch your speedometer for the distance".

* DO NOT do this in traffic. Do it on a private road or a little used
back road, when there is no traffic. Be sure to have your lug nuts in
the car, along with a jack, and a lug wrench. Sooner or later at least
one wheel will fall off, and you'll have to raise the car and put the
wheel back on, with the lug nuts.


Someone here was driving after having tires put on at national tire and
battery. Going over a bridge wheel spun off damaging fender. Had to get
toad.

Greg

Frog couldn't do the job? Or mabee Salamander?
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On Oct 16, 7:35Â*am, "Steve B" wrote:
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wrote the following on 10/16/2012 4:35 AM (ET):
How far can you drive your car with all the lug nuts removed?


This is a real challenge. Â*Remove all the lug nuts from all the tires on
your car.


I don't have lug nuts on my tires.


Is that like, "if a rooster laid an egg on the peak of a roof
......................"?

Steve


At least that one has something going for it...as opposed to the
sophmoric OP's.

Harry K

I've had a few vehicles come in where the rim was rusted to the hub
so badly I could not knock them off with a sledgehammer and I resorted
to putting the nuts on very loosely and going for an agressive ride.
On one ond Chevy pickup it took almost 10 miles of accelerating,
braking, and swerving to get all 4 loose.
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wrote the following on 10/16/2012 4:35 AM (ET):
How far can you drive your car with all the lug nuts removed?


This is a real challenge. *Remove all the lug nuts from all the tires on
your car.


I don't have lug nuts on my tires.


Is that like, "if a rooster laid an egg on the peak of a roof
......................"?


Steve


At least that one has something going for it...as opposed to the
sophmoric OP's.


Harry K


* I've had a few vehicles come in where the rim was rusted to the hub
so badly I could not knock them off with a sledgehammer and I resorted
to putting the nuts on very loosely and going for an agressive ride.
On one ond Chevy pickup it took almost 10 miles of accelerating,
braking, and swerving to get all 4 loose.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Aluminum wheels on steel hubs can get very interesting. I to had to
loosen 5 wheel nuts and drive around the block turning sharply left
and right to free up the wheel I wanted to rotate a few years ago.
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I have a better challenge. Lets see who can hit themselves in the face with a shovel the most times before they give up. Post your answer when you wake up.


Sooner or later at least one wheel will fall off, and you'll have to raise the car and put the wheel back on, with the lug nuts.


Yeah, and quite possibly have a thousand dollars in body work to do and maybe a brake disk to replace. Maybe a punctured tire and/or damaged rim.

If you really want to tr this, you could back your lug nuts off a quarter inch and drive until you heard the thump. That would tell you the same thing with relatively little risk to you vehicle.


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Should have had the tires ribbetted on.

Less likely to be toad.

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Someone here was driving after having tires put on at national tire and
battery. Going over a bridge wheel spun off damaging fender. Had to get
toad.

Greg


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Perhaps you should ask how far you can drive and stop safely
after you front tier blows at 80 miles per hour!!!


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How far can you drive your car with all the lug nuts removed?

This is a real challenge. Remove all the lug nuts from all the tires on
your car. Get in the car, and drive. How far can you drive without
having a wheel fall off? This takes real skill, and separates the boys
from the men.

Try it, and post your distance on this newsgroup. The person driving
the furthest before a wheel falls off is the winner of the *BEST DRIVER
AWARD*. "Watch your speedometer for the distance".


No not driver but car is the winer

* DO NOT do this in traffic. Do it on a private road or a little used
back road, when there is no traffic. Be sure to have your lug nuts in
the car, along with a jack, and a lug wrench. Sooner or later at least
one wheel will fall off, and you'll have to raise the car and put the
wheel back on, with the lug nuts.




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On Tue, 16 Oct 2012 08:52:56 -0400, "David L. Martel"
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willshak,

I'm guessing the OP has not seen wire wheels. No lug nuts. "Removing the
lug nuts from the tires" is rather funny, too.

Dave M.

Umm, the only automotive wheels without lug nuts (plural) are the ones
referred to as "knock off" wheels and they do have a nut... just one.
Wire wheels can be of either flavor, knock off, regular lug nuts or...

My car has no lug nuts or knock off nut to hold my wheels on. It has
lug bolts. So far I've gone over 50K miles so I win!!!
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On Tue, 16 Oct 2012 16:15:55 +0000 (UTC), gregz wrote:

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How far can you drive your car with all the lug nuts removed?

This is a real challenge. Remove all the lug nuts from all the tires on
your car. Get in the car, and drive. How far can you drive without
having a wheel fall off? This takes real skill, and separates the boys
from the men.

Try it, and post your distance on this newsgroup. The person driving
the furthest before a wheel falls off is the winner of the *BEST DRIVER
AWARD*. "Watch your speedometer for the distance".

* DO NOT do this in traffic. Do it on a private road or a little used
back road, when there is no traffic. Be sure to have your lug nuts in
the car, along with a jack, and a lug wrench. Sooner or later at least
one wheel will fall off, and you'll have to raise the car and put the
wheel back on, with the lug nuts.


Someone here was driving after having tires put on at national tire and
battery. Going over a bridge wheel spun off damaging fender. Had to get
toad.


Had tires changed at a Costco some years back. A week or so later one of the
wheels fell off (just had the car inspected that day, too) just after the wife
got off an Interstate. Wife was about to change *someone* into a toad.

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I drove 352 miles without the lug nuts on my wheels. How much did I win?


You did not win. I drove my Karmann Ghia thousands of miles with no
lug nuts.


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I drove 352 miles without the lug nuts on my wheels. How much did I win?


You did not win. I drove my Karmann Ghia thousands of miles with no
lug nuts.

49 VW, 53 Dodge, and 57 Fargo - over 200,000 miles, 130,000 miles and
260,000 miles with no lug nuts. And then there was the '38 Terrible
Pain (Terraplane) - also no lug nuts. I didn't put many miles on it
and have no idea how many miles were on it when I got it.

I've also lost a wheel due to an AXLE nut coming off the rear of an
MGB when my apprentice failed to re-install the cotter pin- - -It
took about 3 weeks and over 750 miles.
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On Tue, 16 Oct 2012 03:35:30 -0500, wrote:

How far can you drive your car with all the lug nuts removed?

This is a real challenge. Remove all the lug nuts from all the tires on
your car. Get in the car, and drive. How far can you drive without
having a wheel fall off? This takes real skill, and separates the boys
from the men.

Try it, and post your distance on this newsgroup. The person driving
the furthest before a wheel falls off is the winner of the *BEST DRIVER
AWARD*. "Watch your speedometer for the distance".

* DO NOT do this in traffic. Do it on a private road or a little used
back road, when there is no traffic.


Well, I drove with no lug nuts and no studs on one wheel and I did it
in the heart of Lower Manhattan, including going up Broadway the wrong
way on a one-way street.

Admittedly, it was a summer Sunday at 7PM and in *lower* Manhattan,
there were no cars coming, probably no moving cars except on Canal.

I had had surgery the previous Dec. 15th, and I left my car in Long
Island City (Queens) while I was in the hospital and recuperating.
It snowed the first day, and on one wheel I had nol put the hubcap.
They plowed the street, but that just pushed more snow up against my
tires.

In August I took my brother to the Newark airport, and when I got back
to the car, that tire was flat. The nuts were rusted on. I had to
literally stand on the lug wrench to free them, but 3 or 4 studs
broke and 1 or 2 (adjacent) studs didn't. I didn't want to have to
have the car towed to a gas station, then go back to Brooklyn and have
to come back the next day. I decided to drive home on surface
streets. It was the left rear tire. When I turned left or went
straight ahead it was fine. When I turned right, it went thump, thump
thlump. I guess Newark Airport is about 15 miles from the Holland
tunnel, and I went maybe 20 mph where it was straigjht, slower
elsewhere.

When I got to the Holland Tunnel I hesitated. There is a big fine for
breaking down in the Holland Tunnel, I guess it includes a big charge
for the tow truck, plus I didn't want to tie up traffic when I broke
down. (Sunday evenings traffic into the city is heavy with people who
went away for the weekend.) . But I'm an idiot so I continued. I
made itt through the tunnel, even with a 130^ right curve at the end
and went east on Beach St. to merge with Canal. Just as I approached
Broadway, my last stud broke and the car, a '67 Pontiac Catalina,
fell on the frame I guess since the brake drum never got hurt. I
thought I'd be in big trouble if it sat there for Monday morning rush
hour, but I found a parking lot a short block up Broadway. .

Not thinking it would work I jacked up the car and put the wheel on,
lowered the jack and made it less than an inch before it fell off. I
tried it again and made it 2 feet. I tried it a third time and I went
15 feet forward, turned left, went 100 feet north, turned left again
and went over the curb, across the side walk, right next to the
building on my left. Then I put the jack back in the trunk and took
the subway home to Brooklyn

That night I read the shop manual on replacing studs, said to use a
hydraulic press. The next morning I rode my bicycle to Atlantic Wheel
and Rim on Atlantic Ave. I like to talk (as you can see) and I told
the guy about my problem. He said no one uses a press to put in
studs. They put them through the hole, put the lug nut on and tighen
the nut and that pullls the stud in. I bought 5 of each for 10
dollars or less. Took the bike back, took the train to my car and in
30 or 45 minutes the car was fixed. The lot manager wanted to
charge me for 3 days parking, because I had spanned three spaces, but
I convinced him it was only 10 AM and he'd rent the spaces after I
left, and he settled for a day and half.

I still can't believe i drove 135 feet, and the whole cost to me was
$10 and 2 subway fares.

Be sure to have your lug nuts in
the car, along with a jack, and a lug wrench. Sooner or later at least
one wheel will fall off, and you'll have to raise the car and put the
wheel back on, with the lug nuts.


Yup. Maybe if you go straight ahead you can go pretty far?

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Yeah, and quite possibly have a thousand dollars in body work to do and maybe a brake disk to replace. Maybe a punctured tire and/or damaged rim.

If you really want to tr this, you could back your lug nuts off a quarter inch and drive until you heard the thump.


I did that too once. I guess I hadn't tightened the wheel, and I was
going 100 miles from NYC to Allentown Pa. 70 miles in it started
thumping, but I jumped to the conclusion it was a bad wheel bearing
and just kept driving (which is a bad idea for a bearing too.)

When I finally got to my desitnation, I looked and the wheel was lose
and I'd damaged the threads on one or two of the studs. Left front
wheel. IIRC I tightened four of them and a couple weeks later, I
punched out the bad stud(s?) and replaced it. The same guy at
Atlantic Wheel and Rim had told me no one uses a press to remove studs
either, even though the shop manual says to do that. They use a
hammer and a punch or a drift.

That would tell you the same thing with relatively little risk to you vehicle.


Good point.



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On Wed, 17 Oct 2012 02:08:06 -0400, micky
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Not thinking it would work I jacked up the car and put the wheel on,
lowered the jack and made it less than an inch before it fell off. I
tried it again and made it 2 feet. I tried it a third time and I went
15 feet forward, turned left, went 100 feet north, turned left again
and went over the curb, across the side walk, right next to the
building on my left. Then I put the jack back in the trunk and took
the subway home to Brooklyn



Back around 1970 or 71, I had a similar thing happen to an old truck.
Several studs were broken and eventually the last ones broke and the
wheel fell off. It was a front tire. I was about 25 blocks from home,
and late in the evening. I walked home, and took two pieces of
hardwood. Drilled 2 holes in each piece. The plan was to clamp them
around the hub. However, I had no bolts long enough, and the hardware
stores were closed. That's when I noticed the old bicycle in our
basement. I removed the long bolts and nuts that hold the bike wheel to
the frame.

After getting a friend to drive me back to the truck, I rigged the wood
blocks and bike bolts over the hub, and tightened them as tight as I
could. The friend followed me in his car, and I got about halfway home
when I could feel the wheel was wobbling. I re-tightened the wood
blocks, and continued home. The wheel fell off right when I got into my
parking space behind our house. The next day I had the neighbor (a race
car builder and mechanic), fix it properly. That's when I learned it
was not a tough job and did not require a press.


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I drove 352 miles without the lug nuts on my wheels. How much did I win?


You did not win. I drove my Karmann Ghia thousands of miles with no
lug nuts.


So did I. But then I found 4 Karmann Ghia over time on the road. I put one
on each wheel. That was when I was in my 20's in CT. Hey...wait a
minute...you're in CT Ed. Hmmmm...
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I drove 352 miles without the lug nuts on my wheels. How much did I win?


You did not win. I drove my Karmann Ghia thousands of miles with no
lug nuts.


So did I. But then I found 4 Karmann Ghia over time on the road. I put one
on each wheel. That was when I was in my 20's in CT. Hey...wait a
minute...you're in CT Ed. Hmmmm...

My dad lost the right rear wheel on his Model A ford when he was a
young guy. Took one lugnut off each remaining wheel and put the wheel
back on. Then, just for kicks, he walked half a mile back the road and
picked up 4 of the 5 lost nuts.
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On Tue, 16 Oct 2012 07:42:19 -0400, willshak
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I drove 352 miles without the lug nuts on my wheels. How much did I win?


You did not win. I drove my Karmann Ghia thousands of miles with no
lug nuts.

49 VW, 53 Dodge, and 57 Fargo - over 200,000 miles, 130,000 miles and
260,000 miles with no lug nuts. And then there was the '38 Terrible
Pain (Terraplane) - also no lug nuts. I didn't put many miles on it
and have no idea how many miles were on it when I got it.

I've also lost a wheel due to an AXLE nut coming off the rear of an
MGB when my apprentice failed to re-install the cotter pin- - -It
took about 3 weeks and over 750 miles.


One of my scariest encounters, was driving the roadway, and a trailer axle
and wheel came rolling across the three lane road. It was a quick call,
either speed up or slow down. Very unpredictable movement. I got by.

Greg


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Ed Pawlowski wrote in
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On Tue, 16 Oct 2012 07:42:19 -0400, willshak
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I drove 352 miles without the lug nuts on my wheels. How much did I win?


You did not win. I drove my Karmann Ghia thousands of miles with no
lug nuts.


So did I. But then I found 4 Karmann Ghia over time on the road. I put one
on each wheel. That was when I was in my 20's in CT. Hey...wait a
minute...you're in CT Ed. Hmmmm...


Well I lived in Philadelphia at the time. My first K Ghia was a '64
convertible that I bought from a guy that just broke down with it. $15
for the car, $55 for the parts to rebuild the engine. Fun to drive,
but no heat as the heat ducts were rusted out. Drove it for about two
years.

Second K Ghia was a '70 that was my brother's and was hit while parked
in front of his house. That car was involved in 7 accidents and was
parked all times when hit. Last hit was when it was parked up the
street from my house. I took that as an omen to sell it.
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On Wed, 17 Oct 2012 02:08:06 -0400, micky
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Not thinking it would work I jacked up the car and put the wheel on,
lowered the jack and made it less than an inch before it fell off. I
tried it again and made it 2 feet. I tried it a third time and I went
15 feet forward, turned left, went 100 feet north, turned left again
and went over the curb, across the side walk, right next to the
building on my left. Then I put the jack back in the trunk and took
the subway home to Brooklyn



Back around 1970 or 71, I had a similar thing happen to an old truck.
Several studs were broken and eventually the last ones broke and the
wheel fell off. It was a front tire. I was about 25 blocks from home,
and late in the evening. I walked home, and took two pieces of
hardwood. Drilled 2 holes in each piece. The plan was to clamp them
around the hub. However, I had no bolts long enough, and the hardware
stores were closed. That's when I noticed the old bicycle in our
basement. I removed the long bolts and nuts that hold the bike wheel to
the frame.

After getting a friend to drive me back to the truck, I rigged the wood
blocks and bike bolts over the hub, and tightened them as tight as I
could. The friend followed me in his car, and I got about halfway home
when I could feel the wheel was wobbling. I re-tightened the wood
blocks, and continued home. The wheel fell off right when I got into my
parking space behind our house. The next day I had the neighbor (a race
car builder and mechanic), fix it properly. That's when I learned it
was not a tough job and did not require a press.

Great story.

You remind me that my wheel fell off too, just as the rear of my car
cleared the sidewalk. I put it in the trunk before I left.

I wish I knew a race car builder.
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