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Andy

On 9/11/2017 10:21 PM, Andy wrote:
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Andy



I just bought a brand new 3 year old model Samsung to replace the one
that started acting goofy. $125.00. I'm good.

On 09/12/2017 01:21 AM, Andy wrote:
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Andy


All of iApple's iToys start with the letter 'i'...as does idiot.

In alt.home.repair, on Mon, 11 Sep 2017 22:21:47 -0700 (PDT), Andy
wrote:

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Andy

I don't think you can get anything good for only $1000. It's all junk.

On 9/12/2017 1:21 AM, Andy wrote:
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Andy


Smart phones are just computers with a phone ap. I have a Tracfone flip
phone costing me $150 for 2 years service. Just want a phone. For
computer I have desktop where work is easy and doesn't require little
bitty screen and typing.

In article ,
Taxed and Spent wrote:

On 9/11/2017 10:21 PM, Andy wrote:
http://money.cnn.com/2017/09/11/inve...one/index.html

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Andy



I just bought a brand new 3 year old model Samsung to replace the one
that started acting goofy. $125.00. I'm good.

Brand new iPhone SE $150. Isn't the new Samsung around $950? Are we all
supposed to drive Yugos too? Ban BMW, they cost more than Fords? The
visceral hate some people have for certain brands is entertaining/sad to
watch.

On 9/12/2017 9:09 AM, Mark Storkamp wrote:
In article ,
Taxed and Spent wrote:

On 9/11/2017 10:21 PM, Andy wrote:
http://money.cnn.com/2017/09/11/inve...one/index.html

What do you thing ?

Andy



I just bought a brand new 3 year old model Samsung to replace the one
that started acting goofy. $125.00. I'm good.

Brand new iPhone SE $150. Isn't the new Samsung around $950? Are we all
supposed to drive Yugos too? Ban BMW, they cost more than Fords? The
visceral hate some people have for certain brands is entertaining/sad to
watch.


I think the $1000 phone is just calling attention to the cost/value for
such a small item, powerful as it is. Can they sell it for less? Sure,
Apple has tons of cash, but as long as people are willing to give them
more, they will take it.

If you think the price of the phone is obscene, just look at the money
we throw at athletes and celebrities. The good ones are making millions
for doing what they like. Compare their worth to the aid taking care of
mom at the nursing home and let me know who has more value in life.

On Tuesday, September 12, 2017 at 9:08:45 AM UTC-4, Frank wrote:
On 9/12/2017 1:21 AM, Andy wrote:
http://money.cnn.com/2017/09/11/inve...one/index.html

What do you thing ?

Andy


Smart phones are just computers with a phone ap. I have a Tracfone flip
phone costing me $150 for 2 years service. Just want a phone. For
computer I have desktop where work is easy and doesn't require little
bitty screen and typing.

The downside of course is that your desktop doesn't fit into a pocket
and therefor you don't have it with you. I use my smartphone when out
and about all the time. From pulling up info on products when in a
store, to finding restaurant menus and hours for those near me,
to getting directions either driving or walking, finding hotels near
me, finding gas at the lowest prices nearby. I have Yelp to check
out restaurants, see if they are any good. Plus I can get texts
wherever I am.

Then there are the other fun apps, like FlightRadar24, where I can
see aircraft in the air, what plane, where they came from and going
to, etc.

Has it replaced the desktop? No. But between tablets and smartphones,
the sales of desktops peaked 3 years ago and have been declining since.
Intel is lucky they are king of servers, that's where all the profits
are coming from. They badly missed the phone market, ignored it.
They should have bought Qualcomm back in the early days.

As for $1000 phone, I recently bought a ZTE Max XL, 6" high res screen,
4000 mah battery, USB C connector, fast charging, 2GB ram, 16GB Flash,
finger print sensor,
Android Nougat (scheduled for Oreo upgrade). It cost me $100. About
the only possible thing additional I might need would be more Flash
and I can add an SD card for not much cost. I'm sure that $1000 iphone
has some more bells and whistles, but the value proposition sure isn't
there for me.

On 9/12/17 12:21 AM, Andy wrote:
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Andy

From the article

"The tech giant is expected to unveil the iPhone 8, iPhone 8 Plus and
iPhone X at an event Tuesday, promising wireless charging, a better
camera, a bigger screen and a much higher price."

The obvious thing is phones will reach a point where they are too big
to be handy. It's too big if I can't put it in my pocket.
I don't remember the details. There's a point where we can't
really see the difference in photo quality. I think we've reached that
point with some of the TVs on the market now.

On Tuesday, September 12, 2017 at 10:35:44 AM UTC-4, Dean Hoffman wrote:
On 9/12/17 12:21 AM, Andy wrote:
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What do you thing ?

Andy

From the article

"The tech giant is expected to unveil the iPhone 8, iPhone 8 Plus and
iPhone X at an event Tuesday, promising wireless charging, a better
camera, a bigger screen and a much higher price."

The obvious thing is phones will reach a point where they are too big
to be handy. It's too big if I can't put it in my pocket.
I don't remember the details. There's a point where we can't
really see the difference in photo quality. I think we've reached that
point with some of the TVs on the market now.

My new phone has a 6" screen. I was concerned it might be too big,
but it's OK. I wouldn't want anything bigger though. And a smaller
one is more comfortable to hold in your hand when making calls, but
I got used to it. As to screen quality on a phone, you're right.
I forget the details, but I looked into it before getting this one,
there was somewhere around I think 250 DPI where it doesn't make
any difference on a smartphone size screen. Apple was at that limit
or above it for a long time with it's phones. Other manufacturers
pushed higher, at 2X that on their high end phones. IDK what the
new Apple is, but I think it's way up there too now. People are
buying on specs, not what they can see. Those more expensive
displays probably have other advantages, like maybe better brightness,
color rendition, etc, too. But it's not worth $500 or $900 more
to me for what I use a phone for. The 6" display though is very
nice, makes it more usable.

On Tue, 12 Sep 2017 09:08:40 -0400, Frank wrote:

Smart phones are just computers with a phone ap. I have a Tracfone flip
phone costing me $150 for 2 years service. Just want a phone. For
computer I have desktop where work is easy and doesn't require little
bitty screen and typing.

My old flip phone dropped behind technology of my service provider.
Have a MOTO G4 (Android OS). Good phone as my first genius phone.
Installed a voice-to-text app so no typing.

On 9/12/2017 7:05 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 9/12/2017 9:09 AM, Mark Storkamp wrote:
In article ,
Taxed and Spent wrote:

On 9/11/2017 10:21 PM, Andy wrote:
http://money.cnn.com/2017/09/11/inve...one/index.html

What do you thing ?

Andy



I just bought a brand new 3 year old model Samsung to replace the one
that started acting goofy. $125.00. I'm good.

Brand new iPhone SE $150. Isn't the new Samsung around $950? Are we all
supposed to drive Yugos too? Ban BMW, they cost more than Fords? The
visceral hate some people have for certain brands is entertaining/sad to
watch.


I think the $1000 phone is just calling attention to the cost/value for
such a small item, powerful as it is. Can they sell it for less? Sure,
Apple has tons of cash, but as long as people are willing to give them
more, they will take it.

If you think the price of the phone is obscene, just look at the money
we throw at athletes and celebrities. The good ones are making millions
for doing what they like. Compare their worth to the aid taking care of
mom at the nursing home and let me know who has more value in life.



And many, many of these people who buy expensive phones and high prices
tickets, are being supported for their health insurance, etc. as they
"need our help".

On 9/12/2017 11:18 AM, Oren wrote:
On Tue, 12 Sep 2017 09:08:40 -0400, Frank wrote:

Smart phones are just computers with a phone ap. I have a Tracfone flip
phone costing me $150 for 2 years service. Just want a phone. For
computer I have desktop where work is easy and doesn't require little
bitty screen and typing.

My old flip phone dropped behind technology of my service provider.
Have a MOTO G4 (Android OS). Good phone as my first genius phone.
Installed a voice-to-text app so no typing.


Year or so ago Tracfone required updated phone and while I could have
gotten a smart phone cheap I opted for the free flip phone upgrade.
Wife had bought the phone years ago and gave it to me when a son put her
on his family plan. Since we seldom use cell phones the Tracfone
minutes just get rolled over and I have over 6,000.

On 9/12/2017 10:35 AM, Dean Hoffman wrote:
On 9/12/17 12:21 AM, Andy wrote:
http://money.cnn.com/2017/09/11/inve...one/index.html



What do you thing ?

Andy

Â*Â*Â* From the article

"The tech giant is expected to unveil the iPhone 8, iPhone 8 Plus and
iPhone X at an event Tuesday, promising wireless charging, a better
camera, a bigger screen and a much higher price."

Â*Â* The obvious thing is phones will reach a point where they are too big
to be handy.Â* It's too big if I can't put it in my pocket.
Â*Â*Â* I don't remember the details.Â*Â* There's a point where we can't
really see the difference in photo quality.Â*Â* I think we've reached that
point with some of the TVs on the market now.

Another reason I like my little flip Tracfone. I can comfortably carry
it in my shirt pocket.

On Tue, 12 Sep 2017 09:35:37 -0500, Dean Hoffman
wrote:

I don't remember the details. There's a point where we can't
really see the difference in photo quality. I think we've reached that
point with some of the TVs on the market now.

I recall reading the human eye can discern or see just 256 colors?

How many colors with eye problems. Bubba always reminds me that he is
color blind if I ask or mention a color.

trader_4 wrote:

On Tuesday, September 12, 2017 at 9:08:45 AM UTC-4, Frank wrote:
On 9/12/2017 1:21 AM, Andy wrote:
http://money.cnn.com/2017/09/11/inve...one/index.html

What do you thing ?

Andy


Smart phones are just computers with a phone ap. I have a Tracfone flip
phone costing me $150 for 2 years service. Just want a phone. For
computer I have desktop where work is easy and doesn't require little
bitty screen and typing.

The downside of course is that your desktop doesn't fit into a pocket
and therefor you don't have it with you. I use my smartphone when out
and about all the time.

Really? When I leave home I usually know where I'm going, how to get
there, what I'm going to do when I get there, and how to get home.

From pulling up info on products when in a
store,

You don't know anything about the product beforehand? Maybe you're one
of those impulse buyers. It might take me six computer-hours spread
over a couple of weeks for any sizeable purchase. Not time I want to
spend staring at a itsy-bitsy screen in some store. Further don't the
store people have all the information on their product? (They might
have to look up their website for you but at least it'll be on a
reasonably-sized screen.)

to finding restaurant menus and hours for those near me,

Huh? Maybe if you're on vacation. How many of those do you take each
year?

to getting directions either driving or walking, finding hotels near
me,

You just suddenly get the urge to spend the night in a hotel? Oh, I
see. That hooker doesn't already have a room g.

finding gas at the lowest prices nearby.

Maybe if you're in FL at the moment.

I have Yelp to check
out restaurants, see if they are any good.

Oh, yeah. Yelp's really reliable. Again on vacation maybe.

Plus I can get texts
wherever I am.

You mean text messages? Not useful text like the User Manual for the
Smooler-Cooler refrigerator that's making horrible grinding
noises...oops that's at home just near your Super-Duper printer
attached to your large sized Desktop monitor.

Then there are the other fun apps, like FlightRadar24, where I can
see aircraft in the air, what plane, where they came from and going
to, etc.

I can watch grass grow for the same thrill.

Has it replaced the desktop? No. But between tablets and smartphones,
the sales of desktops peaked 3 years ago and have been declining since.
Intel is lucky they are king of servers, that's where all the profits
are coming from. They badly missed the phone market, ignored it.
They should have bought Qualcomm back in the early days.

As for $1000 phone, I recently bought a ZTE Max XL, 6" high res screen,
4000 mah battery, USB C connector, fast charging, 2GB ram, 16GB Flash,
finger print sensor,
Android Nougat (scheduled for Oreo upgrade). It cost me $100. About
the only possible thing additional I might need would be more Flash
and I can add an SD card for not much cost. I'm sure that $1000 iphone
has some more bells and whistles, but the value proposition sure isn't
there for me.

I must admit that some of what you point out might be useful on
vacation including a GPS function. I really hate my 10 year-old
(about) Garmin and much prefer Google maps. Of course this may be an
unfair conclusion biased by the size of my Desktop and on functions
that I'm not sure even exist. For example, (keeping it in your area)
I'd like to go from Princeton NJ to Richmond VA avoiding Washington DC
and only on non-expressway roads. Show me the route and then let me
change portions of it. Keep a changing total of time and mileage.

Yeah, I too might like Yelp or Trip Advisor on vacation and Google too
but most of these things I can do back at the hotel on my laptop.

So I could pay for a phone to do all this but I'd only use it for
(say) a week a year. Can I rent the phone and any necessary software
for that week? OK, I'll spring for a month but that's it.

For phone functions (talking) my wife and I have identical flip phones
which cost all of $200 a year for both (carrier cost) and they do text
messaging too..wow. I only found out about the latter when my son, the
proud owner of about 4 super-duper smart phones, borrowed one to send
a really urgent (!) text and they were all on charge or at home. I had
to suppress a giggle. Don't you people have spare fully-charged
batteries?

There is supposed to be a study on what people use their cell phones
for but I've never been able to find it. Maybe Apple paid to have it
suppressed? Any ideas?



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If you think the price of the phone is obscene, just look at the money
we throw at athletes and celebrities. The good ones are making millions
for doing what they like. Compare their worth to the aid taking care of
mom at the nursing home and let me know who has more value in life.



I too find this obscene. I always have. Of course, I am NOT athletically
inclined. The smart ones stay in school so they have a backup when their
body fails.

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On Tuesday, September 12, 2017 at 11:07:17 PM UTC-4, wrote:
trader_4 wrote:

On Tuesday, September 12, 2017 at 9:08:45 AM UTC-4, Frank wrote:
On 9/12/2017 1:21 AM, Andy wrote:
http://money.cnn.com/2017/09/11/inve...one/index.html

What do you thing ?

Andy


Smart phones are just computers with a phone ap. I have a Tracfone flip
phone costing me $150 for 2 years service. Just want a phone. For
computer I have desktop where work is easy and doesn't require little
bitty screen and typing.

The downside of course is that your desktop doesn't fit into a pocket
and therefor you don't have it with you. I use my smartphone when out
and about all the time.

Really? When I leave home I usually know where I'm going, how to get
there, what I'm going to do when I get there, and how to get home.

Sure, I *usually* do to. But usually doesn't mean that there still aren't
enough other times when a smartphone is very useful




From pulling up info on products when in a
store,

You don't know anything about the product beforehand? Maybe you're one
of those impulse buyers.

You;ve never come across another item you were not aware of, didn't know about?





It might take me six computer-hours spread
over a couple of weeks for any sizeable purchase.

Who says it has to be sizeable? If I need a fitting for example,
it turns out HD is out of it, I can check and see if Lowes does.
Or if I see something for $75 at HD, I can check and see if it's
available elsewhere for less to make it worthwhile getting it there.
It only takes a couple mins to check.


Not time I want to
spend staring at a itsy-bitsy screen in some store. Further don't the
store people have all the information on their product?

Obviously you haven't much experience with the knowledge of the typical
staff at stores today.


(They might
have to look up their website for you but at least it'll be on a
reasonably-sized screen.)

Are they going to look up and see if it's less money at Lowes for you?
What the lowest price is online?



to finding restaurant menus and hours for those near me,

Huh? Maybe if you're on vacation. How many of those do you take each
year?


I do that frequently, not just when on vacation. If I'm on a day trip,
errand an hour away, I frequently take a look at what new places there
are that I might be interested in. Just did that yesterday, just 15 miles
from home. I decided to look on Groupon, see what deals there were on
interesting places for lunch. Quickly found a $20 deal for $10 at a
Mexican place I'd been to. NExt stop, check it out on Yelp. The
reviews were all excellent, it's been open only 5 months. Bought
the Groupon deal on the phone, used Google Maps to get there. We had
a great $20 lunch for $10.




to getting directions either driving or walking, finding hotels near
me,

You just suddenly get the urge to spend the night in a hotel? Oh, I
see. That hooker doesn't already have a room g.

A recent example, we went down to see the eclipse. Didn't know whether
we wanted to stay after the eclipse, how far we wanted to drive, so
we just winged it. I was checking hotels on the phone while we were
driving back.




finding gas at the lowest prices nearby.

Maybe if you're in FL at the moment.



I use the GasGuru app here in NJ frequently. Why would I have to
be in FL?




I have Yelp to check
out restaurants, see if they are any good.

Oh, yeah. Yelp's really reliable. Again on vacation maybe.

I find it useful. If you don't, then don't use it. And it;s
not limited to vacations. I gave you an example above. Last
weekend we were in NYC, I used it there. Many times we're an
hour or so from home and interested in trying new restaurants.
I use Yelp to find all kinds of places, Thai, Indian, Pakistani,
Without the phone, I would not know they were there unless I
planned ahead and knew what kind of food I wanted. I can also
check on the fly and see if they are open on that day and time.






Plus I can get texts
wherever I am.

You mean text messages?

I see, so texts are of no use to you either.



Not useful text like the User Manual for the
Smooler-Cooler refrigerator that's making horrible grinding
noises...oops that's at home just near your Super-Duper printer
attached to your large sized Desktop monitor.

Then there are the other fun apps, like FlightRadar24, where I can
see aircraft in the air, what plane, where they came from and going
to, etc.

I can watch grass grow for the same thrill.

To each his own.




Has it replaced the desktop? No. But between tablets and smartphones,
the sales of desktops peaked 3 years ago and have been declining since.
Intel is lucky they are king of servers, that's where all the profits
are coming from. They badly missed the phone market, ignored it.
They should have bought Qualcomm back in the early days.

As for $1000 phone, I recently bought a ZTE Max XL, 6" high res screen,
4000 mah battery, USB C connector, fast charging, 2GB ram, 16GB Flash,
finger print sensor,
Android Nougat (scheduled for Oreo upgrade). It cost me $100. About
the only possible thing additional I might need would be more Flash
and I can add an SD card for not much cost. I'm sure that $1000 iphone
has some more bells and whistles, but the value proposition sure isn't
there for me.

I must admit that some of what you point out might be useful on
vacation including a GPS function.

I'll bet the majority of GPS mapping is being used by people who
are not on vacation. Sure, I know my way around the area here
and on the major roads. But if I'm in the middle of Jersey City
or Newark, having the GPS on the smartphone get me to the turnpike
in the middle of the night, well I find that useful.




I really hate my 10 year-old
(about) Garmin and much prefer Google maps. Of course this may be an
unfair conclusion biased by the size of my Desktop and on functions
that I'm not sure even exist. For example, (keeping it in your area)
I'd like to go from Princeton NJ to Richmond VA avoiding Washington DC
and only on non-expressway roads. Show me the route and then let me
change portions of it. Keep a changing total of time and mileage.

Yeah, I too might like Yelp or Trip Advisor on vacation and Google too
but most of these things I can do back at the hotel on my laptop.

Sure, if you plan ahead. But if you're out, don't have every min
planned, don't know where you're going to wind up, and now it's
9PM and you feel like Indian food, then what? Or you knew you
wanted Indian or Thai, now it's 9PM and you want to find directions
to one of them from where you are?





So I could pay for a phone to do all this but I'd only use it for
(say) a week a year. Can I rent the phone and any necessary software
for that week? OK, I'll spring for a month but that's it.

I'd say my phone partly pays for itself. Lunch at half price,
less money spent on gas, comparing hotel deals in the car...
Compared to the costs of other things, like internet access,
cable TV, even basic utilities, $45 a month for a smartphone
seems like a good value proposition to me. If it's not for you,
then don't try using it. And I'd say if you haven't tried it,
then you don't even know what it can or can't do for you.





For phone functions (talking) my wife and I have identical flip phones
which cost all of $200 a year for both (carrier cost) and they do text
messaging too..wow. I only found out about the latter when my son, the
proud owner of about 4 super-duper smart phones, borrowed one to send
a really urgent (!) text and they were all on charge or at home. I had
to suppress a giggle. Don't you people have spare fully-charged
batteries?

There is supposed to be a study on what people use their cell phones
for but I've never been able to find it. Maybe Apple paid to have it
suppressed? Any ideas?



I just gave you some good examples. Being able to reply to emails from
anywhere is another one.

trader_4 wrote:

On Tuesday, September 12, 2017 at 11:07:17 PM UTC-4, wrote:
trader_4 wrote:

For phone functions (talking) my wife and I have identical flip phones
which cost all of $200 a year for both (carrier cost) and they do text
messaging too..wow. I only found out about the latter when my son, the
proud owner of about 4 super-duper smart phones, borrowed one to send
a really urgent (!) text and they were all on charge or at home. I had
to suppress a giggle. Don't you people have spare fully-charged
batteries?

There is supposed to be a study on what people use their cell phones
for but I've never been able to find it. Maybe Apple paid to have it
suppressed? Any ideas?

I just gave you some good examples. Being able to reply to emails from
anywhere is another one.

You miss the point. I too can dream up examples where people "might"
use a cell phone. The study that I saw referenced an ongoing
categorized list containing quantities of people over a period of
time who (say):

Talked to b/f g/f about a previous date,
Made arrangements for a future date,
Moaned about the customers at their workplace,
Made appointments with Dr, Dentist, Optician, etc,
Gave excuses for failure to get to work on time,
Ordered a pizza/big Mac etc
Called in an order for a product (salesman type at the customer's
business),
Rang for a tow truck,
....
and on and on and on.

A few of these above are good use for a cell phone: the rest are a
failure of inter-personal relations, especially when they're done in
text messaging.

As to your description of the restaurant use. Yikes! A discount? Yikes
again. Remind me never to eat with you g. Who was is who said: "If
you have to ask the price you can't afford it"? I think he was talking
about a yacht but a similar rule could apply to food. If the
restaurant applies a discount it's saying: "We want customers who
worry more about the cost than the quality of the food. We'll just
shove that past-its-prime fish off to them. They'll be counting their
saved dollars and they'll never notice."

Your trial of new cuisines is commendable but go to restaurants that
are the top of the line within the category. Or at least above average
as best you can determine. Look at food quality not cost. Very often
they track though.



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On Wednesday, September 13, 2017 at 9:33:05 PM UTC-4, wrote:
trader_4 wrote:

On Tuesday, September 12, 2017 at 11:07:17 PM UTC-4, wrote:
trader_4 wrote:

For phone functions (talking) my wife and I have identical flip phones
which cost all of $200 a year for both (carrier cost) and they do text
messaging too..wow. I only found out about the latter when my son, the
proud owner of about 4 super-duper smart phones, borrowed one to send
a really urgent (!) text and they were all on charge or at home. I had
to suppress a giggle. Don't you people have spare fully-charged
batteries?

There is supposed to be a study on what people use their cell phones
for but I've never been able to find it. Maybe Apple paid to have it
suppressed? Any ideas?

I just gave you some good examples. Being able to reply to emails from
anywhere is another one.

You miss the point. I too can dream up examples where people "might"
use a cell phone.

I didn't dream up anything, I merely pointed out actual examples of
how I use my smartphone, how it's useful to me.



The study that I saw referenced an ongoing
categorized list containing quantities of people over a period of
time who (say):

Talked to b/f g/f about a previous date,
Made arrangements for a future date,
Moaned about the customers at their workplace,
Made appointments with Dr, Dentist, Optician, etc,
Gave excuses for failure to get to work on time,
Ordered a pizza/big Mac etc
Called in an order for a product (salesman type at the customer's
business),
Rang for a tow truck,
...
and on and on and on.

And all those can be done with an ordinary cell phone too,
yet you have one and it's OK. Go figure.





A few of these above are good use for a cell phone: the rest are a
failure of inter-personal relations, especially when they're done in
text messaging.

You're free to do things your way. That doesn't make the way other
people do them wrong. And one difference, if you text something to
someone or email it via a smartphone, it's not subject to their
mixing up numbers, getting the time wrong, when they write it down.
You have a record of it too. You may prefer getting a phone call,
having people interrupt you, having to take the call to find out
that someone just agreed that Friday at 2PM is OK to meet. I'd
prefer it in an electronic communication and don't see it as some
kind of failure at inter-personal communication.




As to your description of the restaurant use. Yikes! A discount? Yikes
again. Remind me never to eat with you g. Who was is who said: "If
you have to ask the price you can't afford it"? I think he was talking
about a yacht but a similar rule could apply to food. If the
restaurant applies a discount it's saying: "We want customers who
worry more about the cost than the quality of the food. We'll just
shove that past-its-prime fish off to them. They'll be counting their
saved dollars and they'll never notice."

You're free to do as you please. Feel free to pay full price. And
again, you're criticizing that which you don't use, so how would you
know? There are local restaurants that are on Groupon, that I had
been to before there was a Groupon. The food is very good. They
have good ratings online. They regularly offer Groupon deals for
half off. You can be at the other table paying full price, I don't
care, it's your choice. But you might want to at least look at
what's there, before you start jumping to totally unfounded conclusions.
I've used Groupon many times. Some food is excellent, some is OK,
a few aren't so good. It's a way to try new restaurants, try new
things, and even eat at some regular places at half price. I've had
great food at 3 star restaurants with world famous chefs and I've
had great food from a shack or street vendor in China. Price
one way or the other doesn't mean it's good or bad.





Your trial of new cuisines is commendable but go to restaurants that
are the top of the line within the category. Or at least above average
as best you can determine. Look at food quality not cost. Very often
they track though.


I don't need your condescending advice on what makes good food.
And I don't just look at cost. But I think it's nuts to pay full
price like the table next to me, when I can get it for half price
and it's all the same excellent food.

You really take the cake. This was a thread about whether the features
of the new $1000 iPhone are worth it. You don't use a smartphone, yet
here you are telling us the whole category isn't needed. Obviously
hundreds of millions of people, including many in third world countries,
disagree with you. Your comments would be like me coming into a
discussion about whether a high end Beretta shotgun is really worth the
price and bitching about who needs a shotgun anyway, when I don't own
one. And then you imply
that I'm trying to be cheap by taking advantage of Groupon deals,
something you again have no knowledge of,
while you freely brag about how cheap you are, paying only $200
a year for basic cellphones. Go figure. I pay a little more, find
the value proposition well worth it, and you have a problem with
that. Nobody here is criticizing you for doing it your way.