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Running a Garden Hose 16.8 Miles.....
A friend of mine lives 16.8 miles from me. His well pump appears to have
died. I went there and checked it for him, and there is power going to the submersible pump, but no water coming out. I also popped off the well cover and can not hear any sound, where a pump can usually be heard. I told him that he need to get a well driller, or plumber who can pull the pump. Anyhow, I was just joking around, when I told him that he's welcome to run a garden hose from my house to his place. We got to laughing about this, and said it would probably take at least 500 50ft hoses. It turns out I was way off..... On my way home, I watched the odometer. He's 16.8 miles away. That's 88,704 feet. (roughly 1775 50ft garden hoses). Anyhow, this is just nonsense, but I was thinking about it, and wonder if there would be any pressure at the end of 1775 hoses. First off, the hoses would have to go thru culverts so they were not driven over. Then the hose would be going up and down a lot of hills and valleys, in this case, the hose would have to cross a large river, which in itself could be a problem. But like I said, this is just nonsense, but I am wondering if there would be any pressure? I sort of doubt it. I've already connected SEVEN 50ft hoses (350ft) when I had frozen hydrants, and needed to get water to my animals, and I could notice a considerable slowing of the water, and its pressure. Anyhow, just for grins, is there any way to calculate water pressure thru a 5/8" garden hose per foot? And just to mention it, my pressure tank gauge varies from 35 to 50lbs. |
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Bob F wrote:
mike wrote: On 3/21/2016 8:55 PM, wrote: A friend of mine lives 16.8 miles from me. His well pump appears to have died. I went there and checked it for him, and there is power going to the submersible pump, but no water coming out. I also popped off the well cover and can not hear any sound, where a pump can usually be heard. I told him that he need to get a well driller, or plumber who can pull the pump. Anyhow, I was just joking around, when I told him that he's welcome to run a garden hose from my house to his place. We got to laughing about this, and said it would probably take at least 500 50ft hoses. It turns out I was way off..... On my way home, I watched the odometer. He's 16.8 miles away. That's 88,704 feet. (roughly 1775 50ft garden hoses). Anyhow, this is just nonsense, but I was thinking about it, and wonder if there would be any pressure at the end of 1775 hoses. First off, the hoses would have to go thru culverts so they were not driven over. Then the hose would be going up and down a lot of hills and valleys, in this case, the hose would have to cross a large river, which in itself could be a problem. But like I said, this is just nonsense, but I am wondering if there would be any pressure? I sort of doubt it. I've already connected SEVEN 50ft hoses (350ft) when I had frozen hydrants, and needed to get water to my animals, and I could notice a considerable slowing of the water, and its pressure. Anyhow, just for grins, is there any way to calculate water pressure thru a 5/8" garden hose per foot? And just to mention it, my pressure tank gauge varies from 35 to 50lbs. Sure, Pressure at the other end of the hose is exactly the same as at the head end. Problem is friction. The issue is FLOW. Unless both houses were at the same altitude, the pressure would not be the same. I'm amazed that anyone would even respond to something as ridiculous as this question |
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"ChairMan" wrote in message ... Bob F wrote: mike wrote: On 3/21/2016 8:55 PM, wrote: A friend of mine lives 16.8 miles from me. His well pump appears to have died. I went there and checked it for him, and there is power going to the submersible pump, but no water coming out. I also popped off the well cover and can not hear any sound, where a pump can usually be heard. I told him that he need to get a well driller, or plumber who can pull the pump. Anyhow, I was just joking around, when I told him that he's welcome to run a garden hose from my house to his place. We got to laughing about this, and said it would probably take at least 500 50ft hoses. It turns out I was way off..... On my way home, I watched the odometer. He's 16.8 miles away. That's 88,704 feet. (roughly 1775 50ft garden hoses). Anyhow, this is just nonsense, but I was thinking about it, and wonder if there would be any pressure at the end of 1775 hoses. First off, the hoses would have to go thru culverts so they were not driven over. Then the hose would be going up and down a lot of hills and valleys, in this case, the hose would have to cross a large river, which in itself could be a problem. But like I said, this is just nonsense, but I am wondering if there would be any pressure? I sort of doubt it. I've already connected SEVEN 50ft hoses (350ft) when I had frozen hydrants, and needed to get water to my animals, and I could notice a considerable slowing of the water, and its pressure. Anyhow, just for grins, is there any way to calculate water pressure thru a 5/8" garden hose per foot? And just to mention it, my pressure tank gauge varies from 35 to 50lbs. Sure, Pressure at the other end of the hose is exactly the same as at the head end. Problem is friction. The issue is FLOW. Unless both houses were at the same altitude, the pressure would not be the same. I'm amazed that anyone would even respond to something as ridiculous as this question +1 |
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On 3/21/2016 11:16 PM, wrote:
Actually, how does someone find out the altitude of their home (or any other place)? Is this something that can be found on the web, based on the physical address? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Altimeter FWIW, you can connect two houses with plastic pipe, adapters and washing machine hoses, outdoor tap to outdoor tap. |
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On Monday, March 21, 2016 at 11:56:06 PM UTC-4, wrote:
A friend of mine lives 16.8 miles from me. His well pump appears to have died. I went there and checked it for him, and there is power going to the submersible pump, but no water coming out. I also popped off the well cover and can not hear any sound, where a pump can usually be heard. I told him that he need to get a well driller, or plumber who can pull the pump. Anyhow, I was just joking around, when I told him that he's welcome to run a garden hose from my house to his place. We got to laughing about this, and said it would probably take at least 500 50ft hoses. It turns out I was way off..... On my way home, I watched the odometer. He's 16.8 miles away. That's 88,704 feet. (roughly 1775 50ft garden hoses). Anyhow, this is just nonsense, but I was thinking about it, and wonder if there would be any pressure at the end of 1775 hoses. First off, the hoses would have to go thru culverts so they were not driven over. Then the hose would be going up and down a lot of hills and valleys, in this case, the hose would have to cross a large river, which in itself could be a problem. But like I said, this is just nonsense, but I am wondering if there would be any pressure? I sort of doubt it. I've already connected SEVEN 50ft hoses (350ft) when I had frozen hydrants, and needed to get water to my animals, and I could notice a considerable slowing of the water, and its pressure. Anyhow, just for grins, is there any way to calculate water pressure thru a 5/8" garden hose per foot? And just to mention it, my pressure tank gauge varies from 35 to 50lbs. Use PEX |
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On 3/21/2016 11:55 PM, wrote:
A friend of mine lives 16.8 miles from me. His well pump appears to have died. I went there and checked it for him, and there is power going to the submersible pump, but no water coming out. I also popped off the well cover and can not hear any sound, where a pump can usually be heard. It turns out I was way off..... On my way home, I watched the odometer. He's 16.8 miles away. That's 88,704 feet. (roughly 1775 50ft garden hoses). Anyhow, just for grins, is there any way to calculate water pressure thru a 5/8" garden hose per foot? And just to mention it, my pressure tank gauge varies from 35 to 50lbs. Back in my college days, I learned formulas for a couple sizes of fire hose, to calculate the pressure loss. This was important if you were running fire pump, and wanted to provide the correct pressure at the nozzle. I'm sure there are formulas for garden hose. 3/4 would have less pressure loss than 1/2 inch. I do not know the formulas for garden hose. Would you like the formulas for 2 1/2 or 3 inch diameter fire hose? -- .. Christopher A. Young learn more about Jesus .. www.lds.org .. .. |
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On 3/22/2016 12:00 AM, mike wrote:
Pressure at the other end of the hose is exactly the same as at the head end. Problem is friction. The issue is FLOW. That would be the case if there were zero flow, and zero leaks. - .. Christopher A. Young learn more about Jesus .. www.lds.org .. .. |
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On 3/22/2016 12:03 AM, mike wrote:
On 3/21/2016 9:00 PM, mike wrote: Anyhow, just for grins, is there any way to calculate water pressure thru a 5/8" garden hose per foot? And just to mention it, my pressure tank gauge varies from 35 to 50lbs. Sure, Pressure at the other end of the hose is exactly the same as at the head end. Assumes no cha[pressure change is 0.434 PSI per foot.-- .. Christopher A. Young learn more about Jesus .. www.lds.org .. ..]nge in altitude. Problem is friction. The issue is FLOW. |
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On 3/22/2016 12:16 AM, wrote:
There would be considerable altitude difference, because that river is the low point, and the hose would go downward a lot, then have to go back up hill to his house. I dont know what the altitude difference would be, nor how to determine the altitude of my home, his home, and the river. But I do know there are a lot of hills and valleys and some are quite steep! Actually, how does someone find out the altitude of their home (or any other place)? Is this something that can be found on the web, based on the physical address? You may be able to find a topographical map of your area. The valleys and peaks don't make any difference, the down cancels out the up. What matters are source and destination. - .. Christopher A. Young learn more about Jesus .. www.lds.org .. .. |
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On 3/22/2016 12:24 AM, ChairMan wrote:
Anyhow, just for grins, is there any way to calculate water pressure thru a 5/8" garden hose per foot? And just to mention it, my pressure tank gauge varies from 35 to 50lbs. I'm amazed that anyone would even respond to something as ridiculous as this question I'm hoping to hear from Danny D, who has the experience as a water hauler. So, why DID you comment on this ridiculous question? -- .. Christopher A. Young learn more about Jesus .. www.lds.org .. .. |
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On 3/22/2016 2:13 AM, My 2 Cents wrote:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Altimeter FWIW, you can connect two houses with plastic pipe, adapters and washing machine hoses, outdoor tap to outdoor tap. When I was a teen, I came home one day to find a garden hose I didn't recognize, connected from the spigot on my parents house, and going to the spigot on the next door neighbors house. I asked what was with that. Find out that the water department was doing some serious repairs. They got permission from my parents, and ran the hose so the neighbors could have water while they were doing the repairs. The water guy took our meter off, so we had free water for a couple days. -- .. Christopher A. Young learn more about Jesus .. www.lds.org .. .. |
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On Mon, 21 Mar 2016 22:55:34 -0500, wrote:
A friend of mine lives 16.8 miles from me. His well pump appears to have died. I went there and checked it for him, and there is power going to the submersible pump, but no water coming out. I also popped off the well cover and can not hear any sound, where a pump can usually be heard. I told him that he need to get a well driller, or plumber who can pull the pump. Anyhow, I was just joking around, when I told him that he's welcome to run a garden hose from my house to his place. We got to laughing about this, and said it would probably take at least 500 50ft hoses. It turns out I was way off..... On my way home, I watched the odometer. He's 16.8 miles away. That's 88,704 feet. (roughly 1775 50ft garden hoses). Anyhow, this is just nonsense, but I was thinking about it, and wonder if there would be any pressure at the end of 1775 hoses. First off, the hoses would have to go thru culverts so they were not driven over. Then the hose would be going up and down a lot of hills and valleys, in this case, the hose would have to cross a large river, which in itself could be a problem. But like I said, this is just nonsense, but I am wondering if there would be any pressure? I sort of doubt it. Some cut. Why not type "pressure loss calculator" into a few search engines and see which results you like the best? -- Using Opera's mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ |
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On Monday, March 21, 2016 at 11:59:01 PM UTC-5, taxed and spent wrote:
"ChairMan" wrote in message ... Bob F wrote: mike wrote: On 3/21/2016 8:55 PM, wrote: A friend of mine lives 16.8 miles from me. His well pump appears to have died. I went there and checked it for him, and there is power going to the submersible pump, but no water coming out. I also popped off the well cover and can not hear any sound, where a pump can usually be heard. I told him that he need to get a well driller, or plumber who can pull the pump. Anyhow, I was just joking around, when I told him that he's welcome to run a garden hose from my house to his place. We got to laughing about this, and said it would probably take at least 500 50ft hoses. It turns out I was way off..... On my way home, I watched the odometer. He's 16.8 miles away. That's 88,704 feet. (roughly 1775 50ft garden hoses). Anyhow, this is just nonsense, but I was thinking about it, and wonder if there would be any pressure at the end of 1775 hoses. First off, the hoses would have to go thru culverts so they were not driven over. Then the hose would be going up and down a lot of hills and valleys, in this case, the hose would have to cross a large river, which in itself could be a problem. But like I said, this is just nonsense, but I am wondering if there would be any pressure? I sort of doubt it. I've already connected SEVEN 50ft hoses (350ft) when I had frozen hydrants, and needed to get water to my animals, and I could notice a considerable slowing of the water, and its pressure. Anyhow, just for grins, is there any way to calculate water pressure thru a 5/8" garden hose per foot? And just to mention it, my pressure tank gauge varies from 35 to 50lbs. Sure, Pressure at the other end of the hose is exactly the same as at the head end. Problem is friction. The issue is FLOW. Unless both houses were at the same altitude, the pressure would not be the same. I'm amazed that anyone would even respond to something as ridiculous as this question +1 + another |
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On Mon, 21 Mar 2016 21:06:53 -0700, "Bob F" wrote: mike wrote: On 3/21/2016 8:55 PM, wrote: A friend of mine lives 16.8 miles from me. His well pump appears to have died. I went there and checked it for him, and there is power going to the submersible pump, but no water coming out. I also popped off the well cover and can not hear any sound, where a pump can usually be heard. I told him that he need to get a well driller, or plumber who can pull the pump. Anyhow, I was just joking around, when I told him that he's welcome to run a garden hose from my house to his place. We got to laughing about this, and said it would probably take at least 500 50ft hoses. It turns out I was way off..... On my way home, I watched the odometer. He's 16.8 miles away. That's 88,704 feet. (roughly 1775 50ft garden hoses). Anyhow, this is just nonsense, but I was thinking about it, and wonder if there would be any pressure at the end of 1775 hoses. First off, the hoses would have to go thru culverts so they were not driven over. Then the hose would be going up and down a lot of hills and valleys, in this case, the hose would have to cross a large river, which in itself could be a problem. But like I said, this is just nonsense, but I am wondering if there would be any pressure? I sort of doubt it. I've already connected SEVEN 50ft hoses (350ft) when I had frozen hydrants, and needed to get water to my animals, and I could notice a considerable slowing of the water, and its pressure. Anyhow, just for grins, is there any way to calculate water pressure thru a 5/8" garden hose per foot? And just to mention it, my pressure tank gauge varies from 35 to 50lbs. Sure, Pressure at the other end of the hose is exactly the same as at the head end. Problem is friction. The issue is FLOW. Unless both houses were at the same altitude, the pressure would not be the same. There would be considerable altitude difference, because that river is the low point, and the hose would go downward a lot, then have to go back up hill to his house. I dont know what the altitude difference would be, nor how to determine the altitude of my home, his home, and the river. But I do know there are a lot of hills and valleys and some are quite steep! Actually, how does someone find out the altitude of their home (or any other place)? Is this something that can be found on the web, based on the physical address? Google earth . It's pretty accurate , shows the altitude difference in just a few feet for instance on a hill or something . -- Snag |
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On Monday, March 21, 2016 at 11:59:01 PM UTC-5, taxed and spent wrote: "ChairMan" wrote in message ... Bob F wrote: mike wrote: On 3/21/2016 8:55 PM, wrote: A friend of mine lives 16.8 miles from me. His well pump appears to have died. I went there and checked it for him, and there is power going to the submersible pump, but no water coming out. I also popped off the well cover and can not hear any sound, where a pump can usually be heard. I told him that he need to get a well driller, or plumber who can pull the pump. Anyhow, I was just joking around, when I told him that he's welcome to run a garden hose from my house to his place. We got to laughing about this, and said it would probably take at least 500 50ft hoses. It turns out I was way off..... On my way home, I watched the odometer. He's 16.8 miles away. That's 88,704 feet. (roughly 1775 50ft garden hoses). Anyhow, this is just nonsense, but I was thinking about it, and wonder if there would be any pressure at the end of 1775 hoses. First off, the hoses would have to go thru culverts so they were not driven over. Then the hose would be going up and down a lot of hills and valleys, in this case, the hose would have to cross a large river, which in itself could be a problem. But like I said, this is just nonsense, but I am wondering if there would be any pressure? I sort of doubt it. I've already connected SEVEN 50ft hoses (350ft) when I had frozen hydrants, and needed to get water to my animals, and I could notice a considerable slowing of the water, and its pressure. Anyhow, just for grins, is there any way to calculate water pressure thru a 5/8" garden hose per foot? And just to mention it, my pressure tank gauge varies from 35 to 50lbs. Sure, Pressure at the other end of the hose is exactly the same as at the head end. Problem is friction. The issue is FLOW. Unless both houses were at the same altitude, the pressure would not be the same. I'm amazed that anyone would even respond to something as ridiculous as this question +1 + another And yet all 3 of you read the thread and responded ... -- Snag |
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Terry Coombs wrote:
bob_villain wrote: On Monday, March 21, 2016 at 11:59:01 PM UTC-5, taxed and spent wrote: "ChairMan" wrote in message ... Bob F wrote: mike wrote: On 3/21/2016 8:55 PM, wrote: A friend of mine lives 16.8 miles from me. His well pump appears to have died. I went there and checked it for him, and there is power going to the submersible pump, but no water coming out. I also popped off the well cover and can not hear any sound, where a pump can usually be heard. I told him that he need to get a well driller, or plumber who can pull the pump. Anyhow, I was just joking around, when I told him that he's welcome to run a garden hose from my house to his place. We got to laughing about this, and said it would probably take at least 500 50ft hoses. It turns out I was way off..... On my way home, I watched the odometer. He's 16.8 miles away. That's 88,704 feet. (roughly 1775 50ft garden hoses). Anyhow, this is just nonsense, but I was thinking about it, and wonder if there would be any pressure at the end of 1775 hoses. First off, the hoses would have to go thru culverts so they were not driven over. Then the hose would be going up and down a lot of hills and valleys, in this case, the hose would have to cross a large river, which in itself could be a problem. But like I said, this is just nonsense, but I am wondering if there would be any pressure? I sort of doubt it. I've already connected SEVEN 50ft hoses (350ft) when I had frozen hydrants, and needed to get water to my animals, and I could notice a considerable slowing of the water, and its pressure. Anyhow, just for grins, is there any way to calculate water pressure thru a 5/8" garden hose per foot? And just to mention it, my pressure tank gauge varies from 35 to 50lbs. Sure, Pressure at the other end of the hose is exactly the same as at the head end. Problem is friction. The issue is FLOW. Unless both houses were at the same altitude, the pressure would not be the same. I'm amazed that anyone would even respond to something as ridiculous as this question +1 + another And yet all 3 of you read the thread and responded ... You assume wrong. I read all I needed to in the subject line |
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On Tuesday, March 22, 2016 at 8:10:02 AM UTC-5, Terry Coombs wrote:
bob_villain wrote: On Monday, March 21, 2016 at 11:59:01 PM UTC-5, taxed and spent wrote: "ChairMan" wrote in message ... Bob F wrote: mike wrote: On 3/21/2016 8:55 PM, wrote: A friend of mine lives 16.8 miles from me. His well pump appears to have died. I went there and checked it for him, and there is power going to the submersible pump, but no water coming out. I also popped off the well cover and can not hear any sound, where a pump can usually be heard. I told him that he need to get a well driller, or plumber who can pull the pump. Anyhow, I was just joking around, when I told him that he's welcome to run a garden hose from my house to his place. We got to laughing about this, and said it would probably take at least 500 50ft hoses. It turns out I was way off..... On my way home, I watched the odometer. He's 16.8 miles away. That's 88,704 feet. (roughly 1775 50ft garden hoses). Anyhow, this is just nonsense, but I was thinking about it, and wonder if there would be any pressure at the end of 1775 hoses. First off, the hoses would have to go thru culverts so they were not driven over. Then the hose would be going up and down a lot of hills and valleys, in this case, the hose would have to cross a large river, which in itself could be a problem. But like I said, this is just nonsense, but I am wondering if there would be any pressure? I sort of doubt it. I've already connected SEVEN 50ft hoses (350ft) when I had frozen hydrants, and needed to get water to my animals, and I could notice a considerable slowing of the water, and its pressure. Anyhow, just for grins, is there any way to calculate water pressure thru a 5/8" garden hose per foot? And just to mention it, my pressure tank gauge varies from 35 to 50lbs. Sure, Pressure at the other end of the hose is exactly the same as at the head end. Problem is friction. The issue is FLOW. Unless both houses were at the same altitude, the pressure would not be the same. I'm amazed that anyone would even respond to something as ridiculous as this question +1 + another And yet all 3 of you read the thread and responded ... -- Snag That must make *you* double ****ing dumb...*you* responded to us! |
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wrote in message ... I dont know what the altitude difference would be, nor how to determine the altitude of my home, his home, and the river. But I do know there are a lot of hills and valleys and some are quite steep! Actually, how does someone find out the altitude of their home (or any other place)? Is this something that can be found on the web, based on the physical address? Most of the country has been mapped out as to the altitude. I can get on the county tax map and get contour lines and satalite pix of the house I live in. See if your county web page has a GIS map program . Some, maybe all or most all of the GPS units will have a screen where the altitude can be read. It does not seem to be near as accurate as the horizontal position. Years ago I ordered from the government some maps that had the contour lines on it. The local library may have some, or a small local airport may be able to help with the maps. |
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On Tuesday, March 22, 2016 at 12:01:19 AM UTC-4, mike wrote:
On 3/21/2016 8:55 PM, wrote: A friend of mine lives 16.8 miles from me. His well pump appears to have died. I went there and checked it for him, and there is power going to the submersible pump, but no water coming out. I also popped off the well cover and can not hear any sound, where a pump can usually be heard. I told him that he need to get a well driller, or plumber who can pull the pump. Anyhow, I was just joking around, when I told him that he's welcome to run a garden hose from my house to his place. We got to laughing about this, and said it would probably take at least 500 50ft hoses. It turns out I was way off..... On my way home, I watched the odometer. He's 16.8 miles away. That's 88,704 feet. (roughly 1775 50ft garden hoses). Anyhow, this is just nonsense, but I was thinking about it, and wonder if there would be any pressure at the end of 1775 hoses. First off, the hoses would have to go thru culverts so they were not driven over. Then the hose would be going up and down a lot of hills and valleys, in this case, the hose would have to cross a large river, which in itself could be a problem. But like I said, this is just nonsense, but I am wondering if there would be any pressure? I sort of doubt it. I've already connected SEVEN 50ft hoses (350ft) when I had frozen hydrants, and needed to get water to my animals, and I could notice a considerable slowing of the water, and its pressure. Anyhow, just for grins, is there any way to calculate water pressure thru a 5/8" garden hose per foot? And just to mention it, my pressure tank gauge varies from 35 to 50lbs. Sure, Pressure at the other end of the hose is exactly the same as at the head end. Problem is friction. The issue is FLOW. That isn't true. At some given pressure and some hose length, the friction of the hose is great enough that the water effectively forms a plug and the pressure will be X at the source end and 0 at the far end. |
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Running a Garden Hose 16.8 Miles.....
On Tue, 22 Mar 2016 01:39:20 -0400, wrote:
On Mon, 21 Mar 2016 22:55:34 -0500, wrote: The thing you should have told us is how deep is the well. If it is 50-60 feet, pulling the pump is doable for a couple of guys. Much deeper than that and you need a machine or really big guys. You can make it a whole lot easier if you snake an air hose down the pipe and blow as much water out as you can. Then 80 might not be that hard. Hope they put a rope on the pump. To answer several questions, we dont know the well depth, but it's at least 100ft. I know when my own well pump died, it was impossible to lift the steel pipes and pump even with my tractor loader. I had a company do the job, which was costly, but my pump is down 370ft. The old pump was 38 years old according to the label on it. For this guy, I did try another capacitor. I have a few spare pump control boxes on hand, so we tried all of that. Either his pump is dead, or there's a broken wire somewhere down in the well. I suggested he ask his neighbors if he can run a hose to their house until he can get someone to pull his well. He said he would. However, I told him he needs to disconnect his well tank and either add a valve, or cap off that pipe. Otherwise the water from the neighbor could be pushed back down into his well. (I think that could happen)..... If he gets the neighbors water, I told him I'd come and sweat a valve in his copper pipe for him tomorrow, but I think he's only going to ask them if he can haul buckets, because it's still cold enough that a hose could freeze up, and his neighbor is quite a distance away, so it would take at least 8 hoses. He's hoping he can get a well company tomorrow.... I recommended the guys that did my well. I was pleased with their work. |
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On 03/22/2016 01:13 AM, My 2 Cents wrote:
[snip[ FWIW, you can connect two houses with plastic pipe, adapters and washing machine hoses, outdoor tap to outdoor tap. So I might have a use for that "lesbian" (2 female ends) hose I found. -- "The skeptic does not mean him who doubts, but him who investigates or researches, as opposed to him who asserts and thinks that he has found." [Miguel de Unamuno (1864-1936)] |
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Did you install triple A memory battery in it, 'You Full'
wrote in message ... A friend of mine lives 16.8 miles from me. His well pump appears to have died. I went there and checked it for him, and there is power going to the submersible pump, but no water coming out. I also popped off the well cover and can not hear any sound, where a pump can usually be heard. I told him that he need to get a well driller, or plumber who can pull the pump. Anyhow, I was just joking around, when I told him that he's welcome to run a garden hose from my house to his place. We got to laughing about this, and said it would probably take at least 500 50ft hoses. It turns out I was way off..... On my way home, I watched the odometer. He's 16.8 miles away. That's 88,704 feet. (roughly 1775 50ft garden hoses). Anyhow, this is just nonsense, but I was thinking about it, and wonder if there would be any pressure at the end of 1775 hoses. First off, the hoses would have to go thru culverts so they were not driven over. Then the hose would be going up and down a lot of hills and valleys, in this case, the hose would have to cross a large river, which in itself could be a problem. But like I said, this is just nonsense, but I am wondering if there would be any pressure? I sort of doubt it. I've already connected SEVEN 50ft hoses (350ft) when I had frozen hydrants, and needed to get water to my animals, and I could notice a considerable slowing of the water, and its pressure. Anyhow, just for grins, is there any way to calculate water pressure thru a 5/8" garden hose per foot? And just to mention it, my pressure tank gauge varies from 35 to 50lbs. |
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On Mon, 21 Mar 2016 21:00:06 -0700, mike wrote:
On 3/21/2016 8:55 PM, wrote: I've already connected SEVEN 50ft hoses (350ft) when I had frozen hydrants, and needed to get water to my animals, and I could notice a considerable slowing of the water, and its pressure. Anyhow, just for grins, is there any way to calculate water pressure thru a 5/8" garden hose per foot? And just to mention it, my pressure tank gauge varies from 35 to 50lbs. Sure, Pressure at the other end of the hose is exactly the same as at the head end. When the water is not moving. When it is moving pressure is lower at the far end. Same as with electricity. E = IR, where I = flow, R = resistance (which he should be able to measure with his seven 350-foot hoses) and E = pressure. Problem is friction. The issue is FLOW. That raises an interesting question. When the water is only a foot from the supply, it hasn't run into much friction, but the flow is the same as the water that's 16 miles from the supply. Almost like it sent scouts ahead and found out about all the friction along the way. |
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On Tuesday, March 22, 2016 at 12:16:34 AM UTC-4, wrote:
On Mon, 21 Mar 2016 21:06:53 -0700, "Bob F" wrote: mike wrote: On 3/21/2016 8:55 PM, wrote: A friend of mine lives 16.8 miles from me. His well pump appears to have died. I went there and checked it for him, and there is power going to the submersible pump, but no water coming out. I also popped off the well cover and can not hear any sound, where a pump can usually be heard. I told him that he need to get a well driller, or plumber who can pull the pump. Anyhow, I was just joking around, when I told him that he's welcome to run a garden hose from my house to his place. We got to laughing about this, and said it would probably take at least 500 50ft hoses. It turns out I was way off..... On my way home, I watched the odometer. He's 16.8 miles away. That's 88,704 feet. (roughly 1775 50ft garden hoses). Anyhow, this is just nonsense, but I was thinking about it, and wonder if there would be any pressure at the end of 1775 hoses. First off, the hoses would have to go thru culverts so they were not driven over. Then the hose would be going up and down a lot of hills and valleys, in this case, the hose would have to cross a large river, which in itself could be a problem. But like I said, this is just nonsense, but I am wondering if there would be any pressure? I sort of doubt it. I've already connected SEVEN 50ft hoses (350ft) when I had frozen hydrants, and needed to get water to my animals, and I could notice a considerable slowing of the water, and its pressure. Anyhow, just for grins, is there any way to calculate water pressure thru a 5/8" garden hose per foot? And just to mention it, my pressure tank gauge varies from 35 to 50lbs. Sure, Pressure at the other end of the hose is exactly the same as at the head end. Problem is friction. The issue is FLOW. Unless both houses were at the same altitude, the pressure would not be the same. There would be considerable altitude difference, because that river is the low point, and the hose would go downward a lot, then have to go back up hill to his house. I dont know what the altitude difference would be, nor how to determine the altitude of my home, his home, and the river. But I do know there are a lot of hills and valleys and some are quite steep! Actually, how does someone find out the altitude of their home (or any other place)? Is this something that can be found on the web, based on the physical address? You don't have a USGS topo map of your place? Actually, there are web sites to do that. I just googled for "find the elevation", google suggested "find the elevation of my house", and a number of promising links were returned. My house is at 827 feet. Cindy Hamilton |
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On Tuesday, March 22, 2016 at 2:52:38 PM UTC-4, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
Actually, there are web sites to do that. I just googled for "find the elevation", google suggested "find the elevation of my house", and a number of promising links were returned. My house is at 827 feet. Cindy Hamilton What pressure will the water in the hose be at when he runs it 500 miles or 6+ miles to your house? |
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On Tuesday, March 22, 2016 at 5:58:09 PM UTC-4, trader_4 wrote:
On Tuesday, March 22, 2016 at 2:52:38 PM UTC-4, Cindy Hamilton wrote: Actually, there are web sites to do that. I just googled for "find the elevation", google suggested "find the elevation of my house", and a number of promising links were returned. My house is at 827 feet. Cindy Hamilton What pressure will the water in the hose be at when he runs it 500 miles or 6+ miles to your house? I hope he never comes within 500 miles of my house. |
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On 3/22/2016 12:17 PM, notX wrote:
On 03/22/2016 01:13 AM, My 2 Cents wrote: [snip[ FWIW, you can connect two houses with plastic pipe, adapters and washing machine hoses, outdoor tap to outdoor tap. So I might have a use for that "lesbian" (2 female ends) hose I found. Probably a lesbian laundry hookup ho? -- .. Christopher A. Young learn more about Jesus .. www.lds.org .. .. |
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On 03/22/2016 01:11 PM, Micky wrote:
[snip] That raises an interesting question. When the water is only a foot from the supply, it hasn't run into much friction, but the flow is the same as the water that's 16 miles from the supply. Almost like it sent scouts ahead and found out about all the friction along the way. The water at the far end of the hose is slowed down by excessive friction. The water near the beginning of the hose is slowed down by the hose being blocked (by the slow water at the far end). Does that make sense? |
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On 03/23/2016 06:33 AM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
On 3/22/2016 12:17 PM, notX wrote: On 03/22/2016 01:13 AM, My 2 Cents wrote: [snip[ FWIW, you can connect two houses with plastic pipe, adapters and washing machine hoses, outdoor tap to outdoor tap. So I might have a use for that "lesbian" (2 female ends) hose I found. Probably a lesbian laundry hookup ho? I used to have a lesbian hose. The rats are it. No rat problem for 8 years now, too many cats. -- Mark Lloyd http://notstupid.us/ Organized religion is responsible for the brainwashing of millions of young children too young to know the difference between reality and the fantasies of millions. Save Yourself. Drop Christianity. |
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