On 03/23/2016 12:47 PM, Mark Lloyd wrote:
[snip]


I used to have a lesbian hose. The rats are it. No rat problem for 8
years now, too many cats.


I wish the spell checker hadn't messed up there. The rats ATE it.

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trader_4 wrote:

That isn't true. At some given pressure and some hose length, the
friction of the hose is great enough that the water effectively
forms a plug and the pressure will be X at the source end and 0 at
the far end.

Please explain exactly how this happens. An equation showing how to calculate
when this "plug" forms would be useful.

On Tue, 22 Mar 2016 11:52:23 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
wrote:

On Tuesday, March 22, 2016 at 12:16:34 AM UTC-4, wrote:
On Mon, 21 Mar 2016 21:06:53 -0700, "Bob F" wrote:

mike wrote:
On 3/21/2016 8:55 PM, wrote:
A friend of mine lives 16.8 miles from me. His well pump appears to
have died. I went there and checked it for him, and there is power
going to the submersible pump, but no water coming out. I also
popped off the well cover and can not hear any sound, where a pump
can usually be heard.

I told him that he need to get a well driller, or plumber who can
pull the pump.

Anyhow, I was just joking around, when I told him that he's welcome
to run a garden hose from my house to his place. We got to laughing
about this, and said it would probably take at least 500 50ft hoses.

It turns out I was way off.....
On my way home, I watched the odometer. He's 16.8 miles away.
That's 88,704 feet. (roughly 1775 50ft garden hoses).

Anyhow, this is just nonsense, but I was thinking about it, and
wonder if there would be any pressure at the end of 1775 hoses.
First off, the hoses would have to go thru culverts so they were not
driven over. Then the hose would be going up and down a lot of hills
and valleys, in this case, the hose would have to cross a large
river, which in itself could be a problem. But like I said, this is
just nonsense, but I am wondering if there would be any pressure? I
sort of doubt it. I've already connected SEVEN 50ft hoses (350ft) when I had
frozen
hydrants, and needed to get water to my animals, and I could notice a
considerable slowing of the water, and its pressure.

Anyhow, just for grins, is there any way to calculate water pressure
thru a 5/8" garden hose per foot? And just to mention it, my pressure
tank gauge varies from 35 to 50lbs.


Sure,
Pressure at the other end of the hose is exactly the same as at the
head end.
Problem is friction. The issue is FLOW.

Unless both houses were at the same altitude, the pressure would not be the
same.


There would be considerable altitude difference, because that river is
the low point, and the hose would go downward a lot, then have to go
back up hill to his house.

I dont know what the altitude difference would be, nor how to determine
the altitude of my home, his home, and the river. But I do know there
are a lot of hills and valleys and some are quite steep!

Actually, how does someone find out the altitude of their home (or any
other place)? Is this something that can be found on the web, based on
the physical address?

You don't have a USGS topo map of your place?

Actually, there are web sites to do that. I just googled
for "find the elevation", google suggested "find the elevation
of my house", and a number of promising links were returned.

My house is at 827 feet.

Cindy Hamilton

Thanks for the suggestion. The google one says my house is at 490
feet, but all the maps put my house on a street 2 blocks up the hill,
so I'm probably at 470. My friend 10 miles away is at 560. I
thought she'd be higher, so I have to update my impression of the
terrain.

On Tuesday, March 22, 2016 at 6:34:02 AM UTC-7, dadiOH wrote:
wrote:

Actually, how does someone find out the altitude of their home (or any
other place)? Is this something that can be found on the web, based on
the physical address?

One looks at a topographic map. USGS is one source.

Of course he isn't interested in the altitude of either hourse, He wants the elevation difference. For that one way way would be two calibrated barometers or altimeters..

On Tuesday, March 22, 2016 at 9:18:03 AM UTC-7, wrote:
On Tue, 22 Mar 2016 01:39:20 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 21 Mar 2016 22:55:34 -0500, wrote:

The thing you should have told us is how deep is the well.
If it is 50-60 feet, pulling the pump is doable for a couple of guys.
Much deeper than that and you need a machine or really big guys.
You can make it a whole lot easier if you snake an air hose down the
pipe and blow as much water out as you can. Then 80 might not be that
hard. Hope they put a rope on the pump.

To answer several questions, we dont know the well depth, but it's at
least 100ft. I know when my own well pump died, it was impossible to
lift the steel pipes and pump even with my tractor loader. I had a
company do the job, which was costly, but my pump is down 370ft. The old
pump was 38 years old according to the label on it.

For this guy, I did try another capacitor. I have a few spare pump
control boxes on hand, so we tried all of that. Either his pump is dead,
or there's a broken wire somewhere down in the well.

I suggested he ask his neighbors if he can run a hose to their house
until he can get someone to pull his well. He said he would. However, I
told him he needs to disconnect his well tank and either add a valve, or
cap off that pipe. Otherwise the water from the neighbor could be pushed
back down into his well. (I think that could happen)..... If he gets the
neighbors water, I told him I'd come and sweat a valve in his copper
pipe for him tomorrow, but I think he's only going to ask them if he can
haul buckets, because it's still cold enough that a hose could freeze
up, and his neighbor is quite a distance away, so it would take at least
8 hoses.

He's hoping he can get a well company tomorrow....
I recommended the guys that did my well. I was pleased with their work.

Back when I had a well drilled to get off the community well but I kept the interconnect "just in case". Two yiears ago I had a major leak. I'll just go on the community well. Then face/palm. I had not had a valve installed. Coast me around $100 to get one put in before I had water again. Would have been a few bucks at the time of installation. Well driller found the leak just above the pump - galvanic corrosion had eaten a galvanized drop pipe.

"Harry K" wrote in message
...
On Tuesday, March 22, 2016 at 6:34:02 AM UTC-7, dadiOH wrote:
wrote:

Actually, how does someone find out the altitude of their home (or any
other place)? Is this something that can be found on the web, based on
the physical address?

One looks at a topographic map. USGS is one source.

Of course he isn't interested in the altitude of either hourse, He wants
the elevation difference. For that one way way would be two calibrated
barometers or altimeters..


or run a 14 mile water level.

On Thursday, March 24, 2016 at 1:40:05 PM UTC-4, Micky wrote:
On Tue, 22 Mar 2016 11:52:23 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
wrote:

On Tuesday, March 22, 2016 at 12:16:34 AM UTC-4, wrote:
On Mon, 21 Mar 2016 21:06:53 -0700, "Bob F" wrote:

mike wrote:
On 3/21/2016 8:55 PM, wrote:
A friend of mine lives 16.8 miles from me. His well pump appears to
have died. I went there and checked it for him, and there is power
going to the submersible pump, but no water coming out. I also
popped off the well cover and can not hear any sound, where a pump
can usually be heard.

I told him that he need to get a well driller, or plumber who can
pull the pump.

Anyhow, I was just joking around, when I told him that he's welcome
to run a garden hose from my house to his place. We got to laughing
about this, and said it would probably take at least 500 50ft hoses.

It turns out I was way off.....
On my way home, I watched the odometer. He's 16.8 miles away.
That's 88,704 feet. (roughly 1775 50ft garden hoses).

Anyhow, this is just nonsense, but I was thinking about it, and
wonder if there would be any pressure at the end of 1775 hoses.
First off, the hoses would have to go thru culverts so they were not
driven over. Then the hose would be going up and down a lot of hills
and valleys, in this case, the hose would have to cross a large
river, which in itself could be a problem. But like I said, this is
just nonsense, but I am wondering if there would be any pressure? I
sort of doubt it. I've already connected SEVEN 50ft hoses (350ft) when I had
frozen
hydrants, and needed to get water to my animals, and I could notice a
considerable slowing of the water, and its pressure.

Anyhow, just for grins, is there any way to calculate water pressure
thru a 5/8" garden hose per foot? And just to mention it, my pressure
tank gauge varies from 35 to 50lbs.


Sure,
Pressure at the other end of the hose is exactly the same as at the
head end.
Problem is friction. The issue is FLOW.

Unless both houses were at the same altitude, the pressure would not be the
same.


There would be considerable altitude difference, because that river is
the low point, and the hose would go downward a lot, then have to go
back up hill to his house.

I dont know what the altitude difference would be, nor how to determine
the altitude of my home, his home, and the river. But I do know there
are a lot of hills and valleys and some are quite steep!

Actually, how does someone find out the altitude of their home (or any
other place)? Is this something that can be found on the web, based on
the physical address?

You don't have a USGS topo map of your place?

Actually, there are web sites to do that. I just googled
for "find the elevation", google suggested "find the elevation
of my house", and a number of promising links were returned.

My house is at 827 feet.

Cindy Hamilton

Thanks for the suggestion. The google one says my house is at 490
feet, but all the maps put my house on a street 2 blocks up the hill,
so I'm probably at 470. My friend 10 miles away is at 560. I
thought she'd be higher, so I have to update my impression of the
terrain.

If you don't have a smart phone, borrow one. There are free elevation apps
that use GPS and/or location. Even if they aren't 100% accurate as far as
true elevation, hopefully any error is consistent when used to find the
*difference* between the elevation of 2 locations.

For more confidence, download multiple free apps and use them all. Hopefully
the differences between the 2 locations will be the same.

In other words, if x1-y1 (from app1) and x2-y2 (from app2) both equal z, you
can be fairly confident that the difference in elevation is a usable value.

On Thu, 24 Mar 2016 11:47:01 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
wrote:

On Thursday, March 24, 2016 at 1:40:05 PM UTC-4, Micky wrote:
On Tue, 22 Mar 2016 11:52:23 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
wrote:

On Tuesday, March 22, 2016 at 12:16:34 AM UTC-4, wrote:
On Mon, 21 Mar 2016 21:06:53 -0700, "Bob F" wrote:

mike wrote:
On 3/21/2016 8:55 PM, wrote:
A friend of mine lives 16.8 miles from me. His well pump appears to
have died. I went there and checked it for him, and there is power
going to the submersible pump, but no water coming out. I also
popped off the well cover and can not hear any sound, where a pump
can usually be heard.

I told him that he need to get a well driller, or plumber who can
pull the pump.

Anyhow, I was just joking around, when I told him that he's welcome
to run a garden hose from my house to his place. We got to laughing
about this, and said it would probably take at least 500 50ft hoses.

It turns out I was way off.....
On my way home, I watched the odometer. He's 16.8 miles away.
That's 88,704 feet. (roughly 1775 50ft garden hoses).

Anyhow, this is just nonsense, but I was thinking about it, and
wonder if there would be any pressure at the end of 1775 hoses.
First off, the hoses would have to go thru culverts so they were not
driven over. Then the hose would be going up and down a lot of hills
and valleys, in this case, the hose would have to cross a large
river, which in itself could be a problem. But like I said, this is
just nonsense, but I am wondering if there would be any pressure? I
sort of doubt it. I've already connected SEVEN 50ft hoses (350ft) when I had
frozen
hydrants, and needed to get water to my animals, and I could notice a
considerable slowing of the water, and its pressure.

Anyhow, just for grins, is there any way to calculate water pressure
thru a 5/8" garden hose per foot? And just to mention it, my pressure
tank gauge varies from 35 to 50lbs.


Sure,
Pressure at the other end of the hose is exactly the same as at the
head end.
Problem is friction. The issue is FLOW.

Unless both houses were at the same altitude, the pressure would not be the
same.


There would be considerable altitude difference, because that river is
the low point, and the hose would go downward a lot, then have to go
back up hill to his house.

I dont know what the altitude difference would be, nor how to determine
the altitude of my home, his home, and the river. But I do know there
are a lot of hills and valleys and some are quite steep!

Actually, how does someone find out the altitude of their home (or any
other place)? Is this something that can be found on the web, based on
the physical address?

You don't have a USGS topo map of your place?

Actually, there are web sites to do that. I just googled
for "find the elevation", google suggested "find the elevation
of my house", and a number of promising links were returned.

My house is at 827 feet.

Cindy Hamilton

Thanks for the suggestion. The google one says my house is at 490
feet, but all the maps put my house on a street 2 blocks up the hill,
so I'm probably at 470. My friend 10 miles away is at 560. I
thought she'd be higher, so I have to update my impression of the
terrain.

If you don't have a smart phone, borrow one. There are free elevation apps
that use GPS and/or location. Even if they aren't 100% accurate as far as
true elevation, hopefully any error is consistent when used to find the
*difference* between the elevation of 2 locations.

For more confidence, download multiple free apps and use them all. Hopefully
the differences between the 2 locations will be the same.

In other words, if x1-y1 (from app1) and x2-y2 (from app2) both equal z, you
can be fairly confident that the difference in elevation is a usable value.

Very interesting.

On 3/24/2016 1:58 PM, taxed and spent wrote:
"Harry K" wrote in message
Of course he isn't interested in the altitude of either hourse, He wants
the elevation difference. For that one way way would be two calibrated
barometers or altimeters..


or run a 14 mile water level.



Might be able to get some clear tubes to put
on the ends of the garden hose. Since you're
running a 16.8 mile garden hose. Why duplicate
effort?

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"Stormin Mormon" wrote in message
...
On 3/24/2016 1:58 PM, taxed and spent wrote:
"Harry K" wrote in message
Of course he isn't interested in the altitude of either hourse, He
wants
the elevation difference. For that one way way would be two calibrated
barometers or altimeters..


or run a 14 mile water level.



Might be able to get some clear tubes to put
on the ends of the garden hose. Since you're
running a 16.8 mile garden hose. Why duplicate
effort?


uh, that is what I meant. duh!

On 3/25/2016 8:57 AM, taxed and spent wrote:
"Stormin Mormon" wrote in message
...
On 3/24/2016 1:58 PM, taxed and spent wrote:
"Harry K" wrote in message
Of course he isn't interested in the altitude of either hourse, He
wants
the elevation difference. For that one way way would be two calibrated
barometers or altimeters..


or run a 14 mile water level.



Might be able to get some clear tubes to put
on the ends of the garden hose. Since you're
running a 16.8 mile garden hose. Why duplicate
effort?


uh, that is what I meant. duh!


You're just saying that cause I thought of it.
But, thanks for agreeing with me.

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learn more about Jesus
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On Thursday, March 24, 2016 at 10:59:07 AM UTC-7, taxed and spent wrote:
"Harry K" wrote in message
...
On Tuesday, March 22, 2016 at 6:34:02 AM UTC-7, dadiOH wrote:
wrote:

Actually, how does someone find out the altitude of their home (or any
other place)? Is this something that can be found on the web, based on
the physical address?

One looks at a topographic map. USGS is one source.

Of course he isn't interested in the altitude of either hourse, He wants
the elevation difference. For that one way way would be two calibrated
barometers or altimeters..


or run a 14 mile water level.

We once resolved a discussion of whose house was at a higher elevation 5 miles away with a carpenter level. We could see the other house. Of coure it didnt' answer the question "How much higher".

On Monday, March 21, 2016 at 11:24:12 PM UTC-5, ChairMan wrote:
Bob F wrote:
mike wrote:
On 3/21/2016 8:55 PM, wrote:
A friend of mine lives 16.8 miles from me. His well pump
appears to
have died. I went there and checked it for him, and
there is power
going to the submersible pump, but no water coming out.
I also
popped off the well cover and can not hear any sound,
where a pump
can usually be heard.

I told him that he need to get a well driller, or
plumber who can
pull the pump.

Anyhow, I was just joking around, when I told him that
he's welcome
to run a garden hose from my house to his place. We got
to laughing
about this, and said it would probably take at least 500
50ft hoses.

It turns out I was way off.....
On my way home, I watched the odometer. He's 16.8 miles
away.
That's 88,704 feet. (roughly 1775 50ft garden hoses).

Anyhow, this is just nonsense, but I was thinking about
it, and
wonder if there would be any pressure at the end of 1775
hoses.
First off, the hoses would have to go thru culverts so
they were not
driven over. Then the hose would be going up and down a
lot of hills
and valleys, in this case, the hose would have to cross
a large
river, which in itself could be a problem. But like I
said, this is
just nonsense, but I am wondering if there would be any
pressure? I
sort of doubt it. I've already connected SEVEN 50ft
hoses (350ft)
when I had frozen
hydrants, and needed to get water to my animals, and I
could notice
a considerable slowing of the water, and its pressure.

Anyhow, just for grins, is there any way to calculate
water pressure
thru a 5/8" garden hose per foot? And just to mention
it, my
pressure tank gauge varies from 35 to 50lbs.


Sure,
Pressure at the other end of the hose is exactly the same
as at the
head end.
Problem is friction. The issue is FLOW.

Unless both houses were at the same altitude, the pressure
would not
be the same.

I'm amazed that anyone would even respond to something as
ridiculous as this question

It's humor you silly goose! ^_^

[8~{} Uncle Goose Monster

On Monday, March 21, 2016 at 10:56:06 PM UTC-5, wrote:
A friend of mine lives 16.8 miles from me. His well pump appears to have
died. I went there and checked it for him, and there is power going to
the submersible pump, but no water coming out. I also popped off the
well cover and can not hear any sound, where a pump can usually be
heard.

I told him that he need to get a well driller, or plumber who can pull
the pump.

Anyhow, I was just joking around, when I told him that he's welcome to
run a garden hose from my house to his place. We got to laughing about
this, and said it would probably take at least 500 50ft hoses.

It turns out I was way off.....
On my way home, I watched the odometer. He's 16.8 miles away.
That's 88,704 feet. (roughly 1775 50ft garden hoses).

Anyhow, this is just nonsense, but I was thinking about it, and wonder
if there would be any pressure at the end of 1775 hoses. First off, the
hoses would have to go thru culverts so they were not driven over. Then
the hose would be going up and down a lot of hills and valleys, in this
case, the hose would have to cross a large river, which in itself could
be a problem. But like I said, this is just nonsense, but I am wondering
if there would be any pressure? I sort of doubt it.

I've already connected SEVEN 50ft hoses (350ft) when I had frozen
hydrants, and needed to get water to my animals, and I could notice a
considerable slowing of the water, and its pressure.

Anyhow, just for grins, is there any way to calculate water pressure
thru a 5/8" garden hose per foot? And just to mention it, my pressure
tank gauge varies from 35 to 50lbs.

Hell, if any water came out the other end, it would dribble like an old man's pecker! o_O

[8~{} Uncle Dribble Monster

Uncle Monster wrote:
On Monday, March 21, 2016 at 11:24:12 PM UTC-5, ChairMan wrote:
Bob F wrote:
mike wrote:
Unless both houses were at the same altitude, the pressure
would not
be the same.

I'm amazed that anyone would even respond to something as
ridiculous as this question

It's humor you silly goose! ^_^

[8~{} Uncle Goose Monster

I highly doubt that. It might be humorous to you and me, but given its
history, she's serious

On Tuesday, March 29, 2016 at 3:40:55 PM UTC-5, ChairMan wrote:
Uncle Monster wrote:
On Monday, March 21, 2016 at 11:24:12 PM UTC-5, ChairMan wrote:
Bob F wrote:
mike wrote:
Unless both houses were at the same altitude, the pressure
would not
be the same.

I'm amazed that anyone would even respond to something as
ridiculous as this question

It's humor you silly goose! ^_^

[8~{} Uncle Goose Monster

I highly doubt that. It might be humorous to you and me, but given its
history, she's serious

It would be useless to disagree with you so I'll not try to push my opinion on you. I still think it's hysterically funny. ^_^

[8~{} Uncle Silly Monster

Wrote in message:
On Mon, 21 Mar 2016 21:06:53 -0700, "Bob F" wrote:

mike wrote:
On 3/21/2016 8:55 PM, wrote:
A friend of mine lives 16.8 miles from me. His well pump appears to
have died. I went there and checked it for him, and there is power
going to the submersible pump, but no water coming out. I also
popped off the well cover and can not hear any sound, where a pump
can usually be heard.

I told him that he need to get a well driller, or plumber who can
pull the pump.

Anyhow, I was just joking around, when I told him that he's welcome
to run a garden hose from my house to his place. We got to laughing
about this, and said it would probably take at least 500 50ft hoses.

It turns out I was way off.....
On my way home, I watched the odometer. He's 16.8 miles away.
That's 88,704 feet. (roughly 1775 50ft garden hoses).

Anyhow, this is just nonsense, but I was thinking about it, and
wonder if there would be any pressure at the end of 1775 hoses.
First off, the hoses would have to go thru culverts so they were not
driven over. Then the hose would be going up and down a lot of hills
and valleys, in this case, the hose would have to cross a large
river, which in itself could be a problem. But like I said, this is
just nonsense, but I am wondering if there would be any pressure? I
sort of doubt it. I've already connected SEVEN 50ft hoses (350ft) when I had
frozen
hydrants, and needed to get water to my animals, and I could notice a
considerable slowing of the water, and its pressure.

Anyhow, just for grins, is there any way to calculate water pressure
thru a 5/8" garden hose per foot? And just to mention it, my pressure
tank gauge varies from 35 to 50lbs.


Sure,
Pressure at the other end of the hose is exactly the same as at the
head end.
Problem is friction. The issue is FLOW.

Unless both houses were at the same altitude, the pressure would not be the
same.


There would be considerable altitude difference, because that river is
the low point, and the hose would go downward a lot, then have to go
back up hill to his house.

I dont know what the altitude difference would be, nor how to determine
the altitude of my home, his home, and the river. But I do know there
are a lot of hills and valleys and some are quite steep!

Actually, how does someone find out the altitude of their home (or any
other place)? Is this something that can be found on the web, based on
the physical address?





There's an app for that. Seriously.

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Paintedcow:

How, exactly, do you think water is distributed in
some parts of the Philippines?