First i dont have a smart phone and really dont want one.

i have kept verizon all these years because directory assistance worked great.....

untill recently. they have tried to automate it. making it nearly useless.

i complained at a verizon store the manager said and I quote. that service is provided by a contractor and verizon has no control over it..... yeah sure. I pay 2 bucks per 411 call so why make it unusable?


I asked the idiot store manager for a verizon CEOs complaint contact number. the gal said there isnt one.

the gal added if you want to complain futher contact your congressman...

so i am shopping for a new cell phone provider. or a paid 411 service that has humans and really works

On 1/20/2016 9:04 PM, bob haller wrote:
First i dont have a smart phone and really dont want one.

i have kept verizon all these years because directory assistance worked great.....

untill recently. they have tried to automate it. making it nearly useless.

i complained at a verizon store the manager said and I quote. that service is provided by a contractor and verizon has no control over it..... yeah sure. I pay 2 bucks per 411 call so why make it unusable?


I asked the idiot store manager for a verizon CEOs complaint contact number. the gal said there isnt one.

the gal added if you want to complain futher contact your congressman...

so i am shopping for a new cell phone provider. or a paid 411 service that has humans and really works


Get a smart phone and the Yellow Pages app and look up the number
yourself. I've not used 411 in 20 years.

Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 1/20/2016 9:04 PM, bob haller wrote:
First i dont have a smart phone and really dont want one.

i have kept verizon all these years because directory
assistance
worked great..... untill recently. they have tried to
automate it. making it nearly
useless. i complained at a verizon store the manager said
and I quote. that
service is provided by a contractor and verizon has no
control over
it..... yeah sure. I pay 2 bucks per 411 call so why
make it
unusable? I asked the idiot store manager for a verizon
CEOs complaint contact
number. the gal said there isnt one. the gal added if you
want to complain futher contact your
congressman... so i am shopping for a new cell phone
provider. or a paid 411
service that has humans and really works

Get a smart phone and the Yellow Pages app and look up the
number
yourself. I've not used 411 in 20 years.

here's bit of useful info for cells that most people don't
know

For all the folks with cell phones. (This should be printed
and kept in your car, purse, and wallet. Good information to
have with you.)

There are a few things that can be done in times of grave
emergencies. Your mobile phone can actually be a life saver
or an emergency tool for survival.
Check out the things that you can do with it:
FIRST (Emergency)
The Emergency Number worldwide for Mobile is 112. If you
find yourself out of the coverage area of your mobile
network and there is an Emergency, dial 112 and the mobile
will search any existing network to establish the emergency
number for you, and interestingly, this number 112 can be
dialed even if the keypad is locked. Try it out.
SECOND (Hidden Battery Power)
Imagine your cell battery is very low. To activate, press
the keys *3370#. Your cell phone will restart with this
reserve and the instrument will show a 50% increase in
battery. This reserve will get charged when you charge your
cell phone next time.
THIRD (How to disable a STOLEN mobile phone? )
To check your Mobile phone's serial number, key in the
following Digits on your phone: *#06#
A 15-digit code will appear on the screen. This number is
unique to your handset. Write it down and keep it somewhere
safe.
If your phone is stolen, you can phone your service provider
and give them this code. They will then be able to block
your handset so even if the thief changes the SIM card, your
phone will be totally useless. You probably won't get your
phone back, but at least you know that whoever stole it
can't use/sell it either. If everybody does this, there
would be no point in people stealing mobile phones.

And Finally.... FOURTH (Free Directory Service for Cells)
Cell phone companies are charging us $1.00 to $1.75 or more
for 411 information calls when they don't have to. Most of
us do not carry a telephone directory in our vehicle, which
makes this situation even more of a problem. When you need
to use the 411 information option, simply dial: (800)
FREE411 or (800) 373-3411
without incurring any charge at all. Program this into your
cell phone now. This is sponsored by McDonalds.

On 1/21/2016 12:15 AM, ChairMan wrote:
here's bit of useful info for cells that most people don't
know

For all the folks with cell phones. (This should be printed
and kept in your car, purse, and wallet. Good information to
have with you.)


http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/household/cellphones.asp


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On Wednesday, January 20, 2016 at 9:22:53 PM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:



Get a smart phone and the Yellow Pages app and look up the number
yourself. I've not used 411 in 20 years.


My last call the Verizon 411 was probably 15 years ago too. I'm pretty
sure it was the last one. I only used it maybe a couple times a year
even then. But the last call was memorable because I got a $100+
charge for airtime for that call. Somehow the call didn't disconnect
properly and they billed me for the airtime minutes for like an hour
and a half.

So, I call up Verizon and the CSR tells me it's not their problem,
I should take it up with whoever I made the call to. Duh! It's
Verizon that I made the call to. Even worse, I was left wondering
what happened, is my phone defective, will it happen again and be
$1000, etc. Explaining all that, I said I guess I have no choice
but to turn off this phone and get rid of Verizon. CSR: I'll be
happy to help you with that...

Finally I asked for supervisor. He immediately understood that
an hour and a half call to 411 made no sense. He had me on hold
for about 15 mins while he got a hold of engineering to find out
what had happened and make sure it didn't happen again. Then he
took the charge off.

I finally got rid of Verizon, switched to Virgin Mobile and got
a smartphone. Should have done that a long time ago. When I
switched, it would have cost me $80 for the lowest cost smartphone
plan at Verizon. I went over to Zact, which became VM, and paid
~$12 a month.

| Get a smart phone and the Yellow Pages app and look up the number
| yourself. I've not used 411 in 20 years.

Or he can save the $80/month for a computer
phone *and* $2/per call on his phone by just looking
up numbers online. (Re-read his post. The first line
said he doesn't want a computer phone.)

On the other hand, anyone who's willing to pay
$2 to get someone else to look up a phone number
for them is someone I want to talk to about the
bridge I'm putting on sale next week.

However one does it, phone number lookup just
isn't what it used to be. With most people using
computer phones and most of those unlisted, there
are not a lot of numbers that can be looked up.
And the Yellow Pages gets smaller every year. Why
pay them for ads when potential customers are
going to Yelp or doing an online search? Likewise
with YP online. They're often not much help.

I am the OP, and have a small business fixing office equiptement.

so the customer calls, leaves a long message, and rushes thru their actual call back number,

while driving to my next stop, i call 411 to get the number, which verizon texts to me, so i can add it to me phone book.

but since i drive all day stopping to use a smart phone isnt practical...

On Thursday, January 21, 2016 at 11:10:17 AM UTC-5, bob haller wrote:
I am the OP, and have a small business fixing office equiptement.

so the customer calls, leaves a long message, and rushes thru their actual call back number,

while driving to my next stop, i call 411 to get the number, which verizon texts to me, so i can add it to me phone book.

but since i drive all day stopping to use a smart phone isnt practical...

Why do you have to stop to use a smart phone?

Dialing is dialing. In fact, with a smart phone, you could even set it up for
voice dialing, voice texting, voice just-about-everything. That's even safer than dialing your flip(?) phone.

What am I missing?

On Thursday, January 21, 2016 at 11:10:17 AM UTC-5, bob haller wrote:
I am the OP, and have a small business fixing office equiptement.

so the customer calls, leaves a long message, and rushes thru their actual call back number,

while driving to my next stop, i call 411 to get the number, which verizon texts to me, so i can add it to me phone book.

but since i drive all day stopping to use a smart phone isnt practical...

Whoops, forgot to mention this:

Most calls that I get to my smart phone display the number on the screen,
and also save it in my call log. You could save both the call and the fee
if you had a smart phone.

As an aside, have you tried 1-800 (888 or 866)-FREE411 [373-3411], instead
of paying Verizon just to get a phone number. Yeah, you have to listen to
a quick ad before you can get the number, but they're not that annoying.
Better than paying for the number, IMO.

You may have to pay for a low-end data plan, so it would be up to you
to run the numbers (no pun intended) and see if they work for your
business. Perhaps you could write it (or part of it) off as a business
expense.

On Thursday, January 21, 2016 at 9:03:57 AM UTC-5, Mayayana wrote:
| Get a smart phone and the Yellow Pages app and look up the number
| yourself. I've not used 411 in 20 years.

Or he can save the $80/month for a computer
phone *and* $2/per call on his phone by just looking
up numbers online. (Re-read his post. The first line
said he doesn't want a computer phone.)


How's that work when you're using the cell phone when you're
not home, which is how I use mine about 95% of the time?
BTW, everyone calls them smartphones, not computer phones.

On Thursday, January 21, 2016 at 2:26:47 PM UTC-5, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Thursday, January 21, 2016 at 11:10:17 AM UTC-5, bob haller wrote:
I am the OP, and have a small business fixing office equiptement.

so the customer calls, leaves a long message, and rushes thru their actual call back number,

while driving to my next stop, i call 411 to get the number, which verizon texts to me, so i can add it to me phone book.

but since i drive all day stopping to use a smart phone isnt practical...

Why do you have to stop to use a smart phone?

Dialing is dialing. In fact, with a smart phone, you could even set it up for
voice dialing, voice texting, voice just-about-everything. That's even safer than dialing your flip(?) phone.

What am I missing?

Not clear how one gets the call back number from 411 either.
When someone leaves a voicemail mesg with a call back number, it
could be any number, so what number do you ask 411 for? Even if
it's all businesses you deal with, I would think some people would
leave their cell phone # as the call back. And like you say, even
with my old non-smart phone, the phone log had a list of missed calls.
One would think between listening to the voicemail and then looking
at the log, if the call is on there, you could easily figure out
which one it was. Also there are apps like Youmail, that most carriers
systems will support, that lets you see a list of all your voicemails,
you can then tap on any one to listen to them in any order, see who
they are from, what number, etc. Youmail also has voice to text,
how well that works though, if it can accurately change the number
left of voicemail into text, IDK.

I can't imagine being in a business, on the road, and not having
a smartphone. Simple example, if you needed to pull up a data sheet,
a manual, find a price, etc, you can do it on a smartphone. Not as
convenient as on a PC or an iPad, but if you need to read one or two
pages, it can easily save the day, save an additional trip, etc.

On 1/21/2016 2:34 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:


Most calls that I get to my smart phone display the number on the screen,
and also save it in my call log. You could save both the call and the fee
if you had a smart phone.

As an aside, have you tried 1-800 (888 or 866)-FREE411 [373-3411], instead
of paying Verizon just to get a phone number. Yeah, you have to listen to
a quick ad before you can get the number, but they're not that annoying.
Better than paying for the number, IMO.

You may have to pay for a low-end data plan, so it would be up to you
to run the numbers (no pun intended) and see if they work for your
business. Perhaps you could write it (or part of it) off as a business
expense.


I cannot imagine anyone on the road on a regular basis not having a
smart phone and GPS. When I spent a few years in sales, I had to look
for phone booths, call the office for messages, etc. So much easier now.

On Thursday, January 21, 2016 at 2:58:47 PM UTC-5, trader_4 wrote:
On Thursday, January 21, 2016 at 2:26:47 PM UTC-5, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Thursday, January 21, 2016 at 11:10:17 AM UTC-5, bob haller wrote:
I am the OP, and have a small business fixing office equiptement.

so the customer calls, leaves a long message, and rushes thru their actual call back number,

while driving to my next stop, i call 411 to get the number, which verizon texts to me, so i can add it to me phone book.

but since i drive all day stopping to use a smart phone isnt practical...

Why do you have to stop to use a smart phone?

Dialing is dialing. In fact, with a smart phone, you could even set it up for
voice dialing, voice texting, voice just-about-everything. That's even safer than dialing your flip(?) phone.

What am I missing?

Not clear how one gets the call back number from 411 either.
When someone leaves a voicemail mesg with a call back number, it
could be any number, so what number do you ask 411 for? Even if
it's all businesses you deal with, I would think some people would
leave their cell phone # as the call back. And like you say, even
with my old non-smart phone, the phone log had a list of missed calls.
One would think between listening to the voicemail and then looking
at the log, if the call is on there, you could easily figure out
which one it was. Also there are apps like Youmail, that most carriers
systems will support, that lets you see a list of all your voicemails,
you can then tap on any one to listen to them in any order, see who
they are from, what number, etc. Youmail also has voice to text,
how well that works though, if it can accurately change the number
left of voicemail into text, IDK.

I can't imagine being in a business, on the road, and not having
a smartphone. Simple example, if you needed to pull up a data sheet,
a manual, find a price, etc, you can do it on a smartphone. Not as
convenient as on a PC or an iPad, but if you need to read one or two
pages, it can easily save the day, save an additional trip, etc.

I use my smartphone to search for webpages, products, info, etc. quite
often, but if I know that I will need to do more than a quick lookup,
I'll bring my iPad into the store/whatever and then use the Mobil
Hotspot feature on my phone.

On Thursday, January 21, 2016 at 3:33:13 PM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 1/21/2016 2:34 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:


Most calls that I get to my smart phone display the number on the screen,
and also save it in my call log. You could save both the call and the fee
if you had a smart phone.

As an aside, have you tried 1-800 (888 or 866)-FREE411 [373-3411], instead
of paying Verizon just to get a phone number. Yeah, you have to listen to
a quick ad before you can get the number, but they're not that annoying.
Better than paying for the number, IMO.

You may have to pay for a low-end data plan, so it would be up to you
to run the numbers (no pun intended) and see if they work for your
business. Perhaps you could write it (or part of it) off as a business
expense.


I cannot imagine anyone on the road on a regular basis not having a
smart phone and GPS. When I spent a few years in sales, I had to look
for phone booths, call the office for messages, etc. So much easier now.

I bet if Bob tried one, he'd find that it's very useful. When the
minimal plans were $100 a month, that was a barrier for many people.
But now when you can get plans from the majors for $35 and from the
not so majors for half that, it makes it a lot easier. I wonder how
much those $2 411 calls plus his plan for a non-smartphone cost him
a month? You also don't have to buy a brand new smartphone that
costs $500 or go on a two year plan. Many carriers have refurbished
phones, they are available on Ebay, etc and you can go with a prepaid,
non-contract plan.

| Most calls that I get to my smart phone display the number on the screen,
| and also save it in my call log. You could save both the call and the fee
| if you had a smart phone.

One doesn't need a computer phone to see who
called. I have a $10 Tracphone (which I turn on
when I absolutely must) and it displays numbers.
So does my home phone.

| so the customer calls, leaves a long message, and rushes thru their actual
call back number,
|
| while driving to my next stop, i call 411 to get the number, which verizon
texts to me, so i can add it to me phone book.
|
I don't get it. You don't know your customer's
number? If they're leaving you a new number
then how would you get it through 411? And
why doesn't your phone show the number of
the person who called.

I've been finding an increasing problem with
people leaving messages I can't understand, too.
They call from a cellphone while they're doing
two other things. Half the time the call isn't even
really making it through. But they don't know
because they're not paying attention. So I call
the number from CallerID and leave a message
explaining that I couldn't make out their message.
It's very ironic that so many people are constantly
on phones but very few people are prepared to
actually complete a phone call.

I almost never use a cellphone. As a contractor
I'm not expecting -- and not interested in --
emergency calls. Even if I had a phone with me
I wouldn't interrupt work to answer it. I'm
working! People can call my home phone
and I'll call back when I get home.

| I cannot imagine anyone on the road on a regular basis not having a
| smart phone and GPS. When I spent a few years in sales, I had to look
| for phone booths, call the office for messages, etc. So much easier now.
|

I'm surprised at how many people say that.
All those years with map companies printing
maps and it turns out very few of us actually
knew how to read them.

On Thu, 21 Jan 2016 11:26:38 -0800 (PST), DerbyDad03
wrote:

Why do you have to stop to use a smart phone?

Dialing is dialing. In fact, with a smart phone, you could even set it up for
voice dialing, voice texting, voice just-about-everything. That's even safer than dialing your flip(?) phone.

What am I missing?

Don't have a smart phone yet, but I'm moving into the direction.

A story told was a young teen pinned under his truck that fell (TN or
KY?). He told Siri to call for 911 or something. It took a bit of time
to locate him but a rescue team saved him.

My neighbor jokingly said to Siri, "my ass hurts". Siri immediately
gave her the location of the nearest hospital. Phone number, address,
etc.

On 1/21/2016 6:51 PM, Mayayana wrote:
| I cannot imagine anyone on the road on a regular basis not having a
| smart phone and GPS. When I spent a few years in sales, I had to look
| for phone booths, call the office for messages, etc. So much easier now.
|

I'm surprised at how many people say that.
All those years with map companies printing
maps and it turns out very few of us actually
knew how to read them.



I carried state maps and street maps of all the major cities in my
territory. Had a bunch of them. Now it is all in a 3 x 5 gadget that
even tells you what side of the street.

I still look at the paper maps to get an overview of where I'm going.
Sometimes I prefer a route that what the GPS is telling me to do. I
often don't even turn it on until the last few miles.

I can drive from my home in CT to most any major city and never look at
a map. The GPS is handy though, to find 21 Park Street once you are close.

wrote:
Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 1/20/2016 9:04 PM, bob haller wrote:
First i dont have a smart phone and really dont want one.

i have kept verizon all these years because directory
assistance
worked great..... untill recently. they have tried to
automate it. making it nearly
useless. i complained at a verizon store the manager said
and I quote. that
service is provided by a contractor and verizon has no
control over
it..... yeah sure. I pay 2 bucks per 411 call so why
make it
unusable? I asked the idiot store manager for a verizon
CEOs complaint contact
number. the gal said there isnt one. the gal added if you
want to complain futher contact your
congressman... so i am shopping for a new cell phone
provider. or a paid 411
service that has humans and really works

Get a smart phone and the Yellow Pages app and look up the
number
yourself. I've not used 411 in 20 years.
here's bit of useful info for cells that most people don't
know
For all the folks with cell phones. (This should be printed
and kept in your car, purse, and wallet. Good information to
have with you.)
There are a few things that can be done in times of grave
emergencies. Your mobile phone can actually be a life saver
or an emergency tool for survival.
Check out the things that you can do with it:
FIRST (Emergency)
The Emergency Number worldwide for Mobile is 112. If you
find yourself out of the coverage area of your mobile
network and there is an Emergency, dial 112 and the mobile
will search any existing network to establish the emergency
number for you, and interestingly, this number 112 can be
dialed even if the keypad is locked. Try it out.
SECOND (Hidden Battery Power)
Imagine your cell battery is very low. To activate, press
the keys *3370#. Your cell phone will restart with this
reserve and the instrument will show a 50% increase in
battery. This reserve will get charged when you charge your
cell phone next time.
THIRD (How to disable a STOLEN mobile phone? )
To check your Mobile phone's serial number, key in the
following Digits on your phone: *#06#
A 15-digit code will appear on the screen. This number is
unique to your handset. Write it down and keep it somewhere
safe.
If your phone is stolen, you can phone your service provider
and give them this code. They will then be able to block
your handset so even if the thief changes the SIM card, your
phone will be totally useless. You probably won't get your
phone back, but at least you know that whoever stole it
can't use/sell it either. If everybody does this, there
would be no point in people stealing mobile phones.
And Finally.... FOURTH (Free Directory Service for Cells)
Cell phone companies are charging us $1.00 to $1.75 or more
for 411 information calls when they don't have to. Most of
us do not carry a telephone directory in our vehicle, which
makes this situation even more of a problem. When you need
to use the 411 information option, simply dial: (800)
FREE411 or (800) 373-3411
without incurring any charge at all. Program this into your
cell phone now. This is sponsored by McDonalds.

I just called 112 on a smart phone without a sim card and it works, I got an emergency operator.

*3370# doesn't do anything.


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I am on the road repairing mostly roll laminating machines most of the day. I have the customers call my landline number, to a answering machine, a basic call drop..

when in heavy traffic or working on customers machines i dont want to be taking phone calls

On Thursday, January 21, 2016 at 9:15:38 PM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 1/21/2016 6:51 PM, Mayayana wrote:
| I cannot imagine anyone on the road on a regular basis not having a
| smart phone and GPS. When I spent a few years in sales, I had to look
| for phone booths, call the office for messages, etc. So much easier now.
|

I'm surprised at how many people say that.
All those years with map companies printing
maps and it turns out very few of us actually
knew how to read them.



I carried state maps and street maps of all the major cities in my
territory. Had a bunch of them. Now it is all in a 3 x 5 gadget that
even tells you what side of the street.

I still look at the paper maps to get an overview of where I'm going.
Sometimes I prefer a route that what the GPS is telling me to do. I
often don't even turn it on until the last few miles.

I can drive from my home in CT to most any major city and never look at
a map. The GPS is handy though, to find 21 Park Street once you are close.

More importantly, a smartphone or GPS can quickly give you the
best route to your desired destination and talk you through it
while you're driving. You can't be reading maps and driving safely
at the same time. Plus there's a detailed street level map for
you wherever you happen to be. Just finding the correct map out
of a whole book for the street area you wanted was a pain. And
if you travel to any city, you'd have to have a map book for there
too. With a SP, it's all there at your fingertips.

People who haven't actually used one don't realize how well and
how seamless it works. You can google for a business, find it,
then with one more tap, place a call to it or with a couple taps
start the navigation with voice driving directions to it.

On Friday, January 22, 2016 at 12:16:40 AM UTC-5, bob haller wrote:
I am on the road repairing mostly roll laminating machines most of the day. I have the customers call my landline number, to a answering machine, a basic call drop..

when in heavy traffic or working on customers machines i dont want to be taking phone calls

With a smartphone and an app like Youmail, you can set up sophisticated
call answering. For example, you could have it direct all cell phone
incoming calls to voicemail from 8AM to 6PM. You can also have different
recorded greetings for different callers, by number or selectively block
calls, etc. Not saying that's better than having the separate phone,
just that it's available and you would see a list of calls, by number,
who they are from and could listen to any one, at any time, out of order.

On Friday, January 22, 2016 at 12:16:40 AM UTC-5, bob haller wrote:
I am on the road repairing mostly roll laminating machines most of the day. I have the customers call my landline number, to a answering machine, a basic call drop..

when in heavy traffic or working on customers machines i dont want to be taking phone calls

So, let me see if I understand your process and problem. Some of this replay
will be "facts" (based on your postings) and some will be assumptions that I
am making by piecing together your various responses. Please correct any
"facts" and assumptions if I may have gotten them wrong.

1 - Your customers leave messages on an answering machine on a landline.
2 - Your customers leave messages and you can understand their name, but you
can't understand the phone number they left.
3 - These are not "known" customers, because if they were, I assume you would
have their numbers in a file and you could look them up.
4 - Your answering machine does not have a call log that you can access or
you are retrieving the messages remotely and don't have access to the log.
5 - You are using the understandable information from the message so
that you can call directory assistance while driving to your next stop. I
assume that means that only the phone numbers are not understandable.
6 - There are enough of these un-understandable phone numbers that it is worth
the money you are spending to have access to a directory assistance service.
7 - You are willing to call this directory assistance service while driving to
your next stop, but only if traffic is light.

Does that about sum it up?

On Friday, January 22, 2016 at 9:33:07 AM UTC-5, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Friday, January 22, 2016 at 12:16:40 AM UTC-5, bob haller wrote:
I am on the road repairing mostly roll laminating machines most of the day. I have the customers call my landline number, to a answering machine, a basic call drop..

when in heavy traffic or working on customers machines i dont want to be taking phone calls

So, let me see if I understand your process and problem. Some of this replay
will be "facts" (based on your postings) and some will be assumptions that I
am making by piecing together your various responses. Please correct any
"facts" and assumptions if I may have gotten them wrong.

1 - Your customers leave messages on an answering machine on a landline.
2 - Your customers leave messages and you can understand their name, but you
can't understand the phone number they left.
3 - These are not "known" customers, because if they were, I assume you would
have their numbers in a file and you could look them up.
4 - Your answering machine does not have a call log that you can access or
you are retrieving the messages remotely and don't have access to the log.
5 - You are using the understandable information from the message so
that you can call directory assistance while driving to your next stop. I
assume that means that only the phone numbers are not understandable.
6 - There are enough of these un-understandable phone numbers that it is worth
the money you are spending to have access to a directory assistance service.
7 - You are willing to call this directory assistance service while driving to
your next stop, but only if traffic is light.

Does that about sum it up?

thats a pretty good description. plus my customers are primarily schools, most use large phone systems. the caller id numbers vary a lot, if i call a caller id number back its often a random main number.

the issue was 411 worked perfect for me, till verizoin ruined it.

Incidently i have had GPS forever. my first one cost over 600 bucks and paid for itself in less than a month, in time saved....

i generally get one or two not understandable numbers a week, ocasionally a month might go by without a problem.

so the costs of 411 were a minor issue..

On Friday, January 22, 2016 at 9:40:20 AM UTC-5, bob haller wrote:
On Friday, January 22, 2016 at 9:33:07 AM UTC-5, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Friday, January 22, 2016 at 12:16:40 AM UTC-5, bob haller wrote:
I am on the road repairing mostly roll laminating machines most of the day. I have the customers call my landline number, to a answering machine, a basic call drop..

when in heavy traffic or working on customers machines i dont want to be taking phone calls

So, let me see if I understand your process and problem. Some of this replay
will be "facts" (based on your postings) and some will be assumptions that I
am making by piecing together your various responses. Please correct any
"facts" and assumptions if I may have gotten them wrong.

1 - Your customers leave messages on an answering machine on a landline.
2 - Your customers leave messages and you can understand their name, but you
can't understand the phone number they left.
3 - These are not "known" customers, because if they were, I assume you would
have their numbers in a file and you could look them up.
4 - Your answering machine does not have a call log that you can access or
you are retrieving the messages remotely and don't have access to the log.
5 - You are using the understandable information from the message so
that you can call directory assistance while driving to your next stop. I
assume that means that only the phone numbers are not understandable.
6 - There are enough of these un-understandable phone numbers that it is worth
the money you are spending to have access to a directory assistance service.
7 - You are willing to call this directory assistance service while driving to
your next stop, but only if traffic is light.

Does that about sum it up?

thats a pretty good description. plus my customers are primarily schools, most use large phone systems. the caller id numbers vary a lot, if i call a caller id number back its often a random main number.

the issue was 411 worked perfect for me, till verizoin ruined it.

I don't see how. If the caller ID is showing a "random main number" from
a school, how does 411 know the number of the end user you are trying to
contact? As far as I know, I can't call 411 and get the number of Sally
Berkawitz in the 10th grade counseling center.

Can't you just all the main number and ask for the extension of the person
that mumbled their phone number when they left the message?


Incidently i have had GPS forever. my first one cost over 600 bucks and paid for itself in less than a month, in time saved....

Imagine what a smartphone could do for you! GPS, answering machine, calendar,
parts lookup, memos, spare parts docs and machine diagrams stored right on
the phone, HD pictures of parts, machines, locations, etc. The list goes on!

wrote:
On Thursday, January 21, 2016 at 2:26:47 PM UTC-5, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Thursday, January 21, 2016 at 11:10:17 AM UTC-5, bob haller wrote:
I am the OP, and have a small business fixing office equiptement.

so the customer calls, leaves a long message, and rushes thru their actual call back number,

while driving to my next stop, i call 411 to get the number, which verizon texts to me, so i can add it to me phone book.

but since i drive all day stopping to use a smart phone isnt practical...

Why do you have to stop to use a smart phone?

Dialing is dialing. In fact, with a smart phone, you could even set it up for
voice dialing, voice texting, voice just-about-everything. That's even safer than dialing your flip(?) phone.

What am I missing?
Not clear how one gets the call back number from 411 either.
When someone leaves a voicemail mesg with a call back number, it
could be any number, so what number do you ask 411 for? Even if
it's all businesses you deal with, I would think some people would
leave their cell phone # as the call back. And like you say, even
with my old non-smart phone, the phone log had a list of missed calls.
One would think between listening to the voicemail and then looking
at the log, if the call is on there, you could easily figure out
which one it was. Also there are apps like Youmail, that most carriers
systems will support, that lets you see a list of all your voicemails,
you can then tap on any one to listen to them in any order, see who
they are from, what number, etc. Youmail also has voice to text,
how well that works though, if it can accurately change the number
left of voicemail into text, IDK.
I can't imagine being in a business, on the road, and not having
a smartphone. Simple example, if you needed to pull up a data sheet,
a manual, find a price, etc, you can do it on a smartphone. Not as
convenient as on a PC or an iPad, but if you need to read one or two
pages, it can easily save the day, save an additional trip, etc.

I like to be able to record calls using a smart phone, especially when someone gives me messed up directions for how to get somewhere.

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DerbyDad03 posted for all of us...



On Friday, January 22, 2016 at 9:40:20 AM UTC-5, bob haller wrote:
On Friday, January 22, 2016 at 9:33:07 AM UTC-5, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Friday, January 22, 2016 at 12:16:40 AM UTC-5, bob haller wrote:
I am on the road repairing mostly roll laminating machines most of the day. I have the customers call my landline number, to a answering machine, a basic call drop..

when in heavy traffic or working on customers machines i dont want to be taking phone calls

So, let me see if I understand your process and problem. Some of this replay
will be "facts" (based on your postings) and some will be assumptions that I
am making by piecing together your various responses. Please correct any
"facts" and assumptions if I may have gotten them wrong.

1 - Your customers leave messages on an answering machine on a landline.
2 - Your customers leave messages and you can understand their name, but you
can't understand the phone number they left.
3 - These are not "known" customers, because if they were, I assume you would
have their numbers in a file and you could look them up.
4 - Your answering machine does not have a call log that you can access or
you are retrieving the messages remotely and don't have access to the log.
5 - You are using the understandable information from the message so
that you can call directory assistance while driving to your next stop. I
assume that means that only the phone numbers are not understandable.
6 - There are enough of these un-understandable phone numbers that it is worth
the money you are spending to have access to a directory assistance service.
7 - You are willing to call this directory assistance service while driving to
your next stop, but only if traffic is light.

Does that about sum it up?

thats a pretty good description. plus my customers are primarily schools, most use large phone systems. the caller id numbers vary a lot, if i call a caller id number back its often a random main number.

the issue was 411 worked perfect for me, till verizoin ruined it.

I don't see how. If the caller ID is showing a "random main number" from
a school, how does 411 know the number of the end user you are trying to
contact? As far as I know, I can't call 411 and get the number of Sally
Berkawitz in the 10th grade counseling center.

Can't you just all the main number and ask for the extension of the person
that mumbled their phone number when they left the message?

BINGO! I also set up our schools with different prefixes and then the room
number. He doesn't really need a room number because the laminating machines
in our schools were centralized in one room. Also he probably has to report
to the check in and get his drivers license scanned. Every time. Didn't want
outsiders roaming the halls. Parent too. Never know when the PFA hits. I
don't understand the problem, he has a work order, probably been there
before and know whom to talk to. It can't be too hard but then again it is
holloarbutt we are talking about.


Incidently i have had GPS forever. my first one cost over 600 bucks and paid for itself in less than a month, in time saved....

Imagine what a smartphone could do for you! GPS, answering machine, calendar,
parts lookup, memos, spare parts docs and machine diagrams stored right on
the phone, HD pictures of parts, machines, locations, etc. The list goes on!



--
Tekkie

On Monday, January 25, 2016 at 4:56:37 PM UTC-5, Tekkie® wrote:
DerbyDad03 posted for all of us...



On Friday, January 22, 2016 at 9:40:20 AM UTC-5, bob haller wrote:
On Friday, January 22, 2016 at 9:33:07 AM UTC-5, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Friday, January 22, 2016 at 12:16:40 AM UTC-5, bob haller wrote:
I am on the road repairing mostly roll laminating machines most of the day. I have the customers call my landline number, to a answering machine, a basic call drop..

when in heavy traffic or working on customers machines i dont want to be taking phone calls

So, let me see if I understand your process and problem. Some of this replay
will be "facts" (based on your postings) and some will be assumptions that I
am making by piecing together your various responses. Please correct any
"facts" and assumptions if I may have gotten them wrong.

1 - Your customers leave messages on an answering machine on a landline.
2 - Your customers leave messages and you can understand their name, but you
can't understand the phone number they left.
3 - These are not "known" customers, because if they were, I assume you would
have their numbers in a file and you could look them up.
4 - Your answering machine does not have a call log that you can access or
you are retrieving the messages remotely and don't have access to the log.
5 - You are using the understandable information from the message so
that you can call directory assistance while driving to your next stop. I
assume that means that only the phone numbers are not understandable.
6 - There are enough of these un-understandable phone numbers that it is worth
the money you are spending to have access to a directory assistance service.
7 - You are willing to call this directory assistance service while driving to
your next stop, but only if traffic is light.

Does that about sum it up?

thats a pretty good description. plus my customers are primarily schools, most use large phone systems. the caller id numbers vary a lot, if i call a caller id number back its often a random main number.

the issue was 411 worked perfect for me, till verizoin ruined it.

I don't see how. If the caller ID is showing a "random main number" from
a school, how does 411 know the number of the end user you are trying to
contact? As far as I know, I can't call 411 and get the number of Sally
Berkawitz in the 10th grade counseling center.

Can't you just all the main number and ask for the extension of the person
that mumbled their phone number when they left the message?

BINGO! I also set up our schools with different prefixes and then the room
number. He doesn't really need a room number because the laminating machines
in our schools were centralized in one room. Also he probably has to report
to the check in and get his drivers license scanned. Every time. Didn't want
outsiders roaming the halls. Parent too. Never know when the PFA hits. I
don't understand the problem, he has a work order, probably been there
before and know whom to talk to. It can't be too hard but then again it is
holloarbutt we are talking about.


Incidently i have had GPS forever. my first one cost over 600 bucks and paid for itself in less than a month, in time saved....

Imagine what a smartphone could do for you! GPS, answering machine, calendar,
parts lookup, memos, spare parts docs and machine diagrams stored right on
the phone, HD pictures of parts, machines, locations, etc. The list goes on!



--
Tekkie

no work orders here, they call i go fix it.

my time is valuable, smart phones eat time. the last thing i need is to spend lots of time messing with a smart phone.,.

its better i am working on machines///////

On Tuesday, January 26, 2016 at 3:02:59 PM UTC-5, bob haller wrote:
On Monday, January 25, 2016 at 4:56:37 PM UTC-5, Tekkie® wrote:
DerbyDad03 posted for all of us...



On Friday, January 22, 2016 at 9:40:20 AM UTC-5, bob haller wrote:
On Friday, January 22, 2016 at 9:33:07 AM UTC-5, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Friday, January 22, 2016 at 12:16:40 AM UTC-5, bob haller wrote:
I am on the road repairing mostly roll laminating machines most of the day. I have the customers call my landline number, to a answering machine, a basic call drop..

when in heavy traffic or working on customers machines i dont want to be taking phone calls

So, let me see if I understand your process and problem. Some of this replay
will be "facts" (based on your postings) and some will be assumptions that I
am making by piecing together your various responses. Please correct any
"facts" and assumptions if I may have gotten them wrong.

1 - Your customers leave messages on an answering machine on a landline.
2 - Your customers leave messages and you can understand their name, but you
can't understand the phone number they left.
3 - These are not "known" customers, because if they were, I assume you would
have their numbers in a file and you could look them up.
4 - Your answering machine does not have a call log that you can access or
you are retrieving the messages remotely and don't have access to the log.
5 - You are using the understandable information from the message so
that you can call directory assistance while driving to your next stop. I
assume that means that only the phone numbers are not understandable.
6 - There are enough of these un-understandable phone numbers that it is worth
the money you are spending to have access to a directory assistance service.
7 - You are willing to call this directory assistance service while driving to
your next stop, but only if traffic is light.

Does that about sum it up?

thats a pretty good description. plus my customers are primarily schools, most use large phone systems. the caller id numbers vary a lot, if i call a caller id number back its often a random main number.

the issue was 411 worked perfect for me, till verizoin ruined it.

I don't see how. If the caller ID is showing a "random main number" from
a school, how does 411 know the number of the end user you are trying to
contact? As far as I know, I can't call 411 and get the number of Sally
Berkawitz in the 10th grade counseling center.

Can't you just all the main number and ask for the extension of the person
that mumbled their phone number when they left the message?

BINGO! I also set up our schools with different prefixes and then the room
number. He doesn't really need a room number because the laminating machines
in our schools were centralized in one room. Also he probably has to report
to the check in and get his drivers license scanned. Every time. Didn't want
outsiders roaming the halls. Parent too. Never know when the PFA hits. I
don't understand the problem, he has a work order, probably been there
before and know whom to talk to. It can't be too hard but then again it is
holloarbutt we are talking about.


Incidently i have had GPS forever. my first one cost over 600 bucks and paid for itself in less than a month, in time saved....

Imagine what a smartphone could do for you! GPS, answering machine, calendar,
parts lookup, memos, spare parts docs and machine diagrams stored right on
the phone, HD pictures of parts, machines, locations, etc. The list goes on!



--
Tekkie

no work orders here, they call i go fix it.

my time is valuable, smart phones eat time. the last thing i need is to spend lots of time messing with a smart phone.,.


....said the guy without a smartphone. ;-)

bob haller posted for all of us...



On Monday, January 25, 2016 at 4:56:37 PM UTC-5, Tekkie® wrote:
DerbyDad03 posted for all of us...



On Friday, January 22, 2016 at 9:40:20 AM UTC-5, bob haller wrote:
On Friday, January 22, 2016 at 9:33:07 AM UTC-5, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Friday, January 22, 2016 at 12:16:40 AM UTC-5, bob haller wrote:
I am on the road repairing mostly roll laminating machines most of the day. I have the customers call my landline number, to a answering machine, a basic call drop..

when in heavy traffic or working on customers machines i dont want to be taking phone calls

So, let me see if I understand your process and problem. Some of this replay
will be "facts" (based on your postings) and some will be assumptions that I
am making by piecing together your various responses. Please correct any
"facts" and assumptions if I may have gotten them wrong.

1 - Your customers leave messages on an answering machine on a landline.
2 - Your customers leave messages and you can understand their name, but you
can't understand the phone number they left.
3 - These are not "known" customers, because if they were, I assume you would
have their numbers in a file and you could look them up.
4 - Your answering machine does not have a call log that you can access or
you are retrieving the messages remotely and don't have access to the log.
5 - You are using the understandable information from the message so
that you can call directory assistance while driving to your next stop. I
assume that means that only the phone numbers are not understandable.
6 - There are enough of these un-understandable phone numbers that it is worth
the money you are spending to have access to a directory assistance service.
7 - You are willing to call this directory assistance service while driving to
your next stop, but only if traffic is light.

Does that about sum it up?

thats a pretty good description. plus my customers are primarily schools, most use large phone systems. the caller id numbers vary a lot, if i call a caller id number back its often a random main number.

the issue was 411 worked perfect for me, till verizoin ruined it.

I don't see how. If the caller ID is showing a "random main number" from
a school, how does 411 know the number of the end user you are trying to
contact? As far as I know, I can't call 411 and get the number of Sally
Berkawitz in the 10th grade counseling center.

Can't you just all the main number and ask for the extension of the person
that mumbled their phone number when they left the message?

BINGO! I also set up our schools with different prefixes and then the room
number. He doesn't really need a room number because the laminating machines
in our schools were centralized in one room. Also he probably has to report
to the check in and get his drivers license scanned. Every time. Didn't want
outsiders roaming the halls. Parent too. Never know when the PFA hits. I
don't understand the problem, he has a work order, probably been there
before and know whom to talk to. It can't be too hard but then again it is
holloarbutt we are talking about.


Incidently i have had GPS forever. my first one cost over 600 bucks and paid for itself in less than a month, in time saved....

Imagine what a smartphone could do for you! GPS, answering machine, calendar,
parts lookup, memos, spare parts docs and machine diagrams stored right on
the phone, HD pictures of parts, machines, locations, etc. The list goes on!



--
Tekkie

no work orders here, they call i go fix it.

my time is valuable, smart phones eat time. the last thing i need is to spend lots of time messing with a smart phone.,.

its better i am working on machines///////

So taking the call, writing on a slip of paper, no contact info, no phone,
losing the paper, thinking about it, calling 411 is more efficient. Our
laminators didn't require many repairs...

Ok, however you want to run your business is fine with me.

--
Tekkie

"bob haller" wrote in message ...
On Monday, January 25, 2016 at 4:56:37 PM UTC-5, Tekkie® wrote:
DerbyDad03 posted for all of us...



On Friday, January 22, 2016 at 9:40:20 AM UTC-5, bob haller wrote:
On Friday, January 22, 2016 at 9:33:07 AM UTC-5, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Friday, January 22, 2016 at 12:16:40 AM UTC-5, bob haller wrote:
I am on the road repairing mostly roll laminating machines most of the day. I have the customers call my landline number, to a answering machine, a basic call drop..

when in heavy traffic or working on customers machines i dont want to be taking phone calls

So, let me see if I understand your process and problem. Some of this replay
will be "facts" (based on your postings) and some will be assumptions that I
am making by piecing together your various responses. Please correct any
"facts" and assumptions if I may have gotten them wrong.

1 - Your customers leave messages on an answering machine on a landline.
2 - Your customers leave messages and you can understand their name, but you
can't understand the phone number they left.
3 - These are not "known" customers, because if they were, I assume you would
have their numbers in a file and you could look them up.
4 - Your answering machine does not have a call log that you can access or
you are retrieving the messages remotely and don't have access to the log.
5 - You are using the understandable information from the message so
that you can call directory assistance while driving to your next stop. I
assume that means that only the phone numbers are not understandable.
6 - There are enough of these un-understandable phone numbers that it is worth
the money you are spending to have access to a directory assistance service.
7 - You are willing to call this directory assistance service while driving to
your next stop, but only if traffic is light.

Does that about sum it up?

thats a pretty good description. plus my customers are primarily schools, most use large phone systems. the caller id numbers vary a lot, if i call a caller id number back its often a random main number.

the issue was 411 worked perfect for me, till verizoin ruined it.

I don't see how. If the caller ID is showing a "random main number" from
a school, how does 411 know the number of the end user you are trying to
contact? As far as I know, I can't call 411 and get the number of Sally
Berkawitz in the 10th grade counseling center.

Can't you just all the main number and ask for the extension of the person
that mumbled their phone number when they left the message?

BINGO! I also set up our schools with different prefixes and then the room
number. He doesn't really need a room number because the laminating machines
in our schools were centralized in one room. Also he probably has to report
to the check in and get his drivers license scanned. Every time. Didn't want
outsiders roaming the halls. Parent too. Never know when the PFA hits. I
don't understand the problem, he has a work order, probably been there
before and know whom to talk to. It can't be too hard but then again it is
holloarbutt we are talking about.


Incidently i have had GPS forever. my first one cost over 600 bucks and paid for itself in less than a month, in time saved....

Imagine what a smartphone could do for you! GPS, answering machine, calendar,
parts lookup, memos, spare parts docs and machine diagrams stored right on
the phone, HD pictures of parts, machines, locations, etc. The list goes on!



--
Tekkie

no work orders here, they call i go fix it.

my time is valuable, smart phones eat time. the last thing i need is to spend lots of time messing with a smart phone.,.

its better i am working on machines///////

===

BH, I agree with you 100%. Smart phones are not allowed here where I work. They have proven to be of no value to the company at all and are a distraction. If they have a question, they call and TALK to someone. And text messages are frowned on too.

On Tuesday, January 26, 2016 at 3:49:54 PM UTC-5, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Tuesday, January 26, 2016 at 3:02:59 PM UTC-5, bob haller wrote:
On Monday, January 25, 2016 at 4:56:37 PM UTC-5, Tekkie® wrote:
DerbyDad03 posted for all of us...



On Friday, January 22, 2016 at 9:40:20 AM UTC-5, bob haller wrote:
On Friday, January 22, 2016 at 9:33:07 AM UTC-5, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Friday, January 22, 2016 at 12:16:40 AM UTC-5, bob haller wrote:
I am on the road repairing mostly roll laminating machines most of the day. I have the customers call my landline number, to a answering machine, a basic call drop..

when in heavy traffic or working on customers machines i dont want to be taking phone calls

So, let me see if I understand your process and problem. Some of this replay
will be "facts" (based on your postings) and some will be assumptions that I
am making by piecing together your various responses. Please correct any
"facts" and assumptions if I may have gotten them wrong.

1 - Your customers leave messages on an answering machine on a landline.
2 - Your customers leave messages and you can understand their name, but you
can't understand the phone number they left.
3 - These are not "known" customers, because if they were, I assume you would
have their numbers in a file and you could look them up.
4 - Your answering machine does not have a call log that you can access or
you are retrieving the messages remotely and don't have access to the log.
5 - You are using the understandable information from the message so
that you can call directory assistance while driving to your next stop. I
assume that means that only the phone numbers are not understandable.
6 - There are enough of these un-understandable phone numbers that it is worth
the money you are spending to have access to a directory assistance service.
7 - You are willing to call this directory assistance service while driving to
your next stop, but only if traffic is light.

Does that about sum it up?

thats a pretty good description. plus my customers are primarily schools, most use large phone systems. the caller id numbers vary a lot, if i call a caller id number back its often a random main number.

the issue was 411 worked perfect for me, till verizoin ruined it.

I don't see how. If the caller ID is showing a "random main number" from
a school, how does 411 know the number of the end user you are trying to
contact? As far as I know, I can't call 411 and get the number of Sally
Berkawitz in the 10th grade counseling center.

Can't you just all the main number and ask for the extension of the person
that mumbled their phone number when they left the message?

BINGO! I also set up our schools with different prefixes and then the room
number. He doesn't really need a room number because the laminating machines
in our schools were centralized in one room. Also he probably has to report
to the check in and get his drivers license scanned. Every time. Didn't want
outsiders roaming the halls. Parent too. Never know when the PFA hits.. I
don't understand the problem, he has a work order, probably been there
before and know whom to talk to. It can't be too hard but then again it is
holloarbutt we are talking about.


Incidently i have had GPS forever. my first one cost over 600 bucks and paid for itself in less than a month, in time saved....

Imagine what a smartphone could do for you! GPS, answering machine, calendar,
parts lookup, memos, spare parts docs and machine diagrams stored right on
the phone, HD pictures of parts, machines, locations, etc. The list goes on!



--
Tekkie

no work orders here, they call i go fix it.

my time is valuable, smart phones eat time. the last thing i need is to spend lots of time messing with a smart phone.,.


...said the guy without a smartphone. ;-)

I've said many times here that if you haven't used one, you can't
appreciate how useful they are. Hard to imagine in a service call
industry where it wouldn't be useful to pull up a schematic, a manual,
find a part number, besides the other things, like using visual
voice mail to manage messages that are left. But to each his own.

On Tue, 26 Jan 2016 12:49:50 -0800 (PST), DerbyDad03
wrote:

my time is valuable, smart phones eat time. the last thing i need is to spend lots of time messing with a smart phone.,.


...said the guy without a smartphone. ;-)

wink Bride says she wants a smart phone but doesn't want the
Internet. Help me explain that :-\

On Tuesday, January 26, 2016 at 7:12:08 PM UTC-5, Oren wrote:
On Tue, 26 Jan 2016 12:49:50 -0800 (PST), DerbyDad03
wrote:

my time is valuable, smart phones eat time. the last thing i need is to spend lots of time messing with a smart phone.,.


...said the guy without a smartphone. ;-)

wink Bride says she wants a smart phone but doesn't want the
Internet. Help me explain that :-\

Well, actually, that's not all that hard. I can think of an option that
might work.

SWMBO is pretty much technologically challenged. The whole family knows
that once I pass away she'll never use the DVR, she'll never program the
coffee maker and the clocks on the stove and microwave will be correct only
until the next power failure or daylight savings time, which ever comes
first.

Her Samsung smartphone comes with the option to set it to "Easy Mode",
which we affectionately call Grandma mode (even though she isn't one).
Big icons, few icons, limited access to apps and settings. You could
bury the browser app where she couldn't easily get to it and only give
her access to the apps she wants. Phone, text, calendar, calculator,
camera, etc.

SWMBO's phone has 6 big icons on the home screen, plus the date, time and
weather. Granted, she does have some other apps on a second screen, but
they could all be removed if need be.

I just put her name on this, showed it to her and she laughed:

https://s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/l...bab112a938.jpg

On Tue, 26 Jan 2016 17:03:21 -0800 (PST), DerbyDad03
wrote:

I just put her name on this, showed it to her and she laughed:

https://s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/l...bab112a938.jpg

I was thinking about using white-out on the screen, Maybe it would
work and she'd not see the Icons?

On 1/26/2016 5:24 PM, Snuffy "Hub Cap" McKinney wrote:


BH, I agree with you 100%. Smart phones are not allowed here where I work. They have proven to be of no value to the company at all and are a distraction. If they have a question, they call and TALK to someone. And text messages are frowned on too.






They can eat time or save time. Depends on how you use them Tool or
toy, it is up to the user.

At work we have a paging system and a few people have walkie=talkies,
but at times, texting is faster and easier. A couple of the truck
drivers will text the shipper. my maintenance supervisor uses it to
contact the boiler service guy. A couple of customers like to get a text
from the salesman if he is going to be stopping by.

Tomorrow I'm picking up someone at the airport. I'll use my phone to be
sure the flight is on time before I leave the office.

It can be a good tool.

Oren posted for all of us...



On Tue, 26 Jan 2016 12:49:50 -0800 (PST), DerbyDad03
wrote:

my time is valuable, smart phones eat time. the last thing i need is to spend lots of time messing with a smart phone.,.


...said the guy without a smartphone. ;-)

wink Bride says she wants a smart phone but doesn't want the
Internet. Help me explain that :-\

Let the "smart phone" figure it out...

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Tekkie

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On Tue, 26 Jan 2016 17:03:21 -0800 (PST), DerbyDad03
wrote:

I just put her name on this, showed it to her and she laughed:

https://s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/l...bab112a938.jpg

I was thinking about using white-out on the screen, Maybe it would
work and she'd not see the Icons?

Is she blond?

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Tekkie