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I'm not having much success luring poor innocent mice into my cruel old-
fashioned mousetrap with a trigger and spring-loaded bale. I've tried raw bacon for bail with slight success, peanut butter with none. I've tried a newer trap that lets them in but not out. Worked once over many years. Other traps? Bait you've used with success? Cats?(Mine died a few years ago and I've never replaced her - I'm too old. it would long outlive me.) TIA -- "Things would be a lot nicer if antique people were valued as highly as antique furniture!" Anon |
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"KenK" wrote in message ... I'm not having much success luring poor innocent mice into my cruel old- fashioned mousetrap with a trigger and spring-loaded bale. I've tried raw bacon for bail with slight success, peanut butter with none. I've tried a newer trap that lets them in but not out. Worked once over many years. Other traps? Bait you've used with success? Cats?(Mine died a few years ago and I've never replaced her - I'm too old. it would long outlive me.) TIA do they have access to better food than your bait? Traps work better when the game is hungry. |
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KenK wrote:
Other traps? Bait you've used with success? Cats?(Mine died a few years ago and I've never replaced her - I'm too old. it would long outlive me.) I made one trap, but it was pretty specialize. We probably could have peacefully co-existed but the mouse insisted on crapping on the kitchen counter. I figured I could let gravity do the deed. The core from a roll of paper towels would work, but not having one handy, I made a triangular, mouse sized tube about 12" long. Mice love little spaces like that. Next step is to put the bait in one end. He'd chewed into a loaf of bread so I figured he liked bread and I sweetened up with a little peanut butter. Balance the tube perpendicular to the end of the counter and put a 13 gallon trash can (empty) under the tube. The mouse spots the bait, heads down the inviting tube, and eventually the whole thing overbalances and falls into the trash can. It took about 2 hours until I heard the thud and squeaking. Being Christmas Eve, I just launched the mouse into the great outdoors. Sadly, it didn't take the mouse too long to find his way back and that time I used a conventional trap. |
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I once read a magazine artice written by an old exterminator. He said that one of the reasons why traps become less effective over time is because people tend to use the same bait. In the case of peanut butter, the mice soon learn to be afraid of the scent of peanut butter because it kills. So, another peanut butter baited trap will only be effective against wild mice that come into your house looking for food. Your best bet now might be to set poison out for them to eat. But, even though you have the poison out, bait some traps with something else, like fried bacon and set them out so the mice become accustomed to eating fried bacon from the traps. Then you can start not only baiting the traps, but setting them too so that they kill the mice that go for the bacon. |
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KenK wrote in :
I'm not having much success luring poor innocent mice into my cruel old- fashioned mousetrap with a trigger and spring-loaded bale. I've tried raw bacon for bail with slight success, peanut butter with none. I've tried a newer trap that lets them in but not out. Worked once over many years. Mice are, by nature, herbivores, so one should not expect much success with bacon. And they can lick peanut butter off without springing the trap. Try a raisin. Mash it onto the bait pan, don't just lay it there. Mice cannot tug it off of the bait pan without springing the trap. My success rate using raisins for bait is 100%. |
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I had a infestation at one time, after buying a 100 pound sack of sunflower seeds for winter bird feeding...
I used a live box trap emptied at least twice a day outside. all the mice survived except the old grey elderly ones. I DONT BELIEVE IN KILLING ANYTHING UNNECESSARILY! |
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Doug Miller wrote:
KenK wrote in : I'm not having much success luring poor innocent mice into my cruel old- fashioned mousetrap with a trigger and spring-loaded bale. I've tried raw bacon for bail with slight success, peanut butter with none. I've tried a newer trap that lets them in but not out. Worked once over many years. Mice are, by nature, herbivores, so one should not expect much success with bacon. And they can lick peanut butter off without springing the trap. Try a raisin. Mash it onto the bait pan, don't just lay it there. Mice cannot tug it off of the bait pan without springing the trap. My success rate using raisins for bait is 100%. +1 |
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bob haller wrote:
I had a infestation at one time, after buying a 100 pound sack of sunflower seeds for winter bird feeding... I used a live box trap emptied at least twice a day outside. all the mice survived except the old grey elderly ones. I DONT BELIEVE IN KILLING ANYTHING UNNECESSARILY! I hear they make great cat food . Since we got chickens , there's feed and hay/straw around feed IS in a metal can w/lid and now we got mice . Currently awaiting the delivery of 2 feline rodent control specialists . The day I opened my rollaway toolbox drawer to have a mama with 6 attached leap out at me decided me . They stay outside or they die . There's plenty of stuff out in the woods for them to eat . -- Snag |
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On 6/28/2014 12:13 PM, KenK wrote:
I'm not having much success luring poor innocent mice into my cruel old- fashioned mousetrap with a trigger and spring-loaded bale. I've tried raw bacon for bail with slight success, peanut butter with none. I've tried a newer trap that lets them in but not out. Worked once over many years. Other traps? Bait you've used with success? Cats?(Mine died a few years ago and I've never replaced her - I'm too old. it would long outlive me.) TIA I like the conventional snap traps that have a higher surface tripper that looks like a piece of cheese. They have a hair trigger and catch more mice than the old ones. Just smear with peanut butter. |
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On 6/28/14, 4:48 PM, Terry Coombs wrote:
I hear they make great cat food . Since we got chickens , there's feed and hay/straw around feed IS in a metal can w/lid and now we got mice . Currently awaiting the delivery of 2 feline rodent control specialists . The day I opened my rollaway toolbox drawer to have a mama with 6 attached leap out at me decided me . They stay outside or they die . There's plenty of stuff out in the woods for them to eat . The good, old fashioned, stinky moth balls seem to work as a repellant. They seem to work ok keeping meeses out of old farm building cabinets. |
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bob haller wrote in
: I had a infestation at one time, after buying a 100 pound sack of sunflower seeds for winter bird feeding... I used a live box trap emptied at least twice a day outside. all the mice survived except the old grey elderly ones. That's why you had to empty it twice a day: you kept catching and releasing the same ones. I DONT BELIEVE IN KILLING ANYTHING UNNECESSARILY! Killing mice in your house *is* necessary. They spread disease. They carry ticks, lice, and mites.They destroy property by chewing. They pee and poop indiscriminately. They're vermin. |
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Dean Hoffman" wrote:
On 6/28/14, 4:48 PM, Terry Coombs wrote: I hear they make great cat food . Since we got chickens , there's feed and hay/straw around feed IS in a metal can w/lid and now we got mice . Currently awaiting the delivery of 2 feline rodent control specialists . The day I opened my rollaway toolbox drawer to have a mama with 6 attached leap out at me decided me . They stay outside or they die . There's plenty of stuff out in the woods for them to eat . The good, old fashioned, stinky moth balls seem to work as a repellant. They seem to work ok keeping meeses out of old farm building cabinets. Thanks , I just happen to have some on hand - unless it's all gone away from sittin' . -- Snag |
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Doug Miller wrote:
KenK wrote in : I'm not having much success luring poor innocent mice into my cruel old- fashioned mousetrap with a trigger and spring-loaded bale. I've tried raw bacon for bail with slight success, peanut butter with none. I've tried a newer trap that lets them in but not out. Worked once over many years. Mice are, by nature, herbivores, so one should not expect much success with bacon. And they can lick peanut butter off without springing the trap. Try a raisin. Mash it onto the bait pan, don't just lay it there. Mice cannot tug it off of the bait pan without springing the trap. My success rate using raisins for bait is 100%. 1/2 of a pistachio wedged tight into the trigger, a never fail recipe around here. -- PV "Today's Rain is Tomorrow's Whiskey" Traditional Scottish Proverb |
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On 6/28/2014 12:13 PM, KenK wrote: I'm not having much success luring poor innocent mice into my cruel old- fashioned mousetrap with a trigger and spring-loaded bale. I've tried raw bacon for bail with slight success, peanut butter with none. I've tried a newer trap that lets them in but not out. Worked once over many years. Other traps? Bait you've used with success? Cats?(Mine died a few years ago and I've never replaced her - I'm too old. it would long outlive me.) TIA For bait, I've had good results with "Motomco Gel Mouse Attractant" (it also says Tomcat on the label). It's a gel in a small squeeze bottle, so it's easy to apply to the trap, plus the mice have to work a little to lick it out and splat. Then there is usually gel left in the trap for the next one. People on Amazon have widely varying results, but my particular mice liked it so well that when they got into my pantry closet, the chewed through the top of a bottle of it to get to it. For traps, I've had decent results with the plastic ones that sort of look like big bulldog clips, that you just pinch at one end to set. I've also used ones that are in little plastic enclosures (good for keeping my dogs' noses out!) but haven't seen them around lately. |
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On 6/28/2014 5:31 PM, bob haller wrote:
I had a infestation at one time, after buying a 100 pound sack of sunflower seeds for winter bird feeding... I used a live box trap emptied at least twice a day outside. all the mice survived except the old grey elderly ones. I DONT BELIEVE IN KILLING ANYTHING UNNECESSARILY! Trap and release, is like scooping water from one side of the boat, and pour it onto the other side. Some animals need to be killed. -- .. Christopher A. Young Learn about Jesus www.lds.org .. |
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On 6/28/2014 7:27 PM, PV wrote:
Try a raisin. Mash it onto the bait pan, don't just lay it there. Mice cannot tug it off of the bait pan without springing the trap. My success rate using raisins for bait is 100%. 1/2 of a pistachio wedged tight into the trigger, a never fail recipe around here. Knew a guy who drilled through almonds, and wired them to the trigger. -- .. Christopher A. Young Learn about Jesus www.lds.org .. |
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On Saturday, June 28, 2014 6:24:26 PM UTC-4, Doug Miller wrote:
bob haller wrote in : I had a infestation at one time, after buying a 100 pound sack of sunflower seeds for winter bird feeding... I used a live box trap emptied at least twice a day outside. all the mice survived except the old grey elderly ones. That's why you had to empty it twice a day: you kept catching and releasing the same ones. I DONT BELIEVE IN KILLING ANYTHING UNNECESSARILY! Killing mice in your house *is* necessary. They spread disease. They carry ticks, lice, and mites.They destroy property by chewing. They pee and poop indiscriminately. They're vermin. Its just as easy to evict them, besides they are kinda cute. |
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On Saturday, June 28, 2014 8:03:37 PM UTC-4, Stormin Mormon wrote:
On 6/28/2014 5:31 PM, bob haller wrote: I had a infestation at one time, after buying a 100 pound sack of sunflower seeds for winter bird feeding... I used a live box trap emptied at least twice a day outside. all the mice survived except the old grey elderly ones. I DONT BELIEVE IN KILLING ANYTHING UNNECESSARILY! Trap and release, is like scooping water from one side of the boat, and pour it onto the other side. Some animals need to be killed. -- . Christopher A. Young Learn about Jesus www.lds.org . You CANT kill enough to make a difference more just move in |
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bob haller wrote:
On Saturday, June 28, 2014 8:03:37 PM UTC-4, Stormin Mormon wrote: On 6/28/2014 5:31 PM, bob haller wrote: I had a infestation at one time, after buying a 100 pound sack of sunflower seeds for winter bird feeding... I used a live box trap emptied at least twice a day outside. all the mice survived except the old grey elderly ones. I DONT BELIEVE IN KILLING ANYTHING UNNECESSARILY! Trap and release, is like scooping water from one side of the boat, and pour it onto the other side. Some animals need to be killed. -- . Christopher A. Young Learn about Jesus www.lds.org . You CANT kill enough to make a difference more just move in Then the cats will be well fed . -- Snag |
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bob haller wrote:
I had a infestation at one time, after buying a 100 pound sack of sunflower seeds for winter bird feeding... I used a live box trap emptied at least twice a day outside. all the mice survived except the old grey elderly ones. I DONT BELIEVE IN KILLING ANYTHING UNNECESSARILY! How many repeat offenders did you have? Sounds like mouse heaven to me. Eat the bait in the live trap, get a trip outside, rinse and repeat. Fish & Game plays the same game culvert trapping problem bears, At least they tranq the bear so he wakes up with a hangover and splitting headache that slows him down on the return to his favorite bird feeder. |
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bob haller wrote:
Its just as easy to evict them, besides they are kinda cute. What's a little hantavirus amongst friends. My first response is eviction. If they don't stay evicted, I escalate. |
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On 6/29/2014 12:27 AM, rbowman wrote:
bob haller wrote: I DONT BELIEVE IN KILLING ANYTHING UNNECESSARILY! How many repeat offenders did you have? Sounds like mouse heaven to me. Eat the bait in the live trap, get a trip outside, rinse and repeat. Fish & Game plays the same game culvert trapping problem bears, At least they tranq the bear so he wakes up with a hangover and splitting headache that slows him down on the return to his favorite bird feeder. And we can mention the TX / Mexico border. -- .. Christopher A. Young Learn about Jesus www.lds.org .. |
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On Sat, 28 Jun 2014 12:23:56 -0600, rbowman wrote:
I made one trap, but it was pretty specialize. We probably could have peacefully co-existed but the mouse insisted on crapping on the kitchen counter. I figured I could let gravity do the deed. That reminds me of the time I inadvertently caught a mouse. Some decades ago, when I still believed in the vilification of saturated fat, I would brown my ground beef and pour the fat into a can. I seem to remember something about the stove top was lower than the counter. Whatever, somehow the mouse got into a can half filled with fat. It was swimming around and couldn't get out. I put the can into a few layers of plastic bags and out with the garbage it went. Don. www.donwiss.com (e-mail link at home page bottom). |
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On Sat, 28 Jun 2014 20:40:32 +0200, nestork wrote:
I once read a magazine artice written by an old exterminator. He said that one of the reasons why traps become less effective over time is because people tend to use the same bait. In the case of peanut butter, the mice soon learn to be afraid of the scent of peanut butter because it kills. I have seen multiple mousetraps on the basement floor each with a mouse in its grip. I'm sure they didn't happen at the same time, so I conclude that mice are stupid. |
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bob haller wrote in news:5baa934b-6b16-4f7f-91a6-18289e783202
@googlegroups.com: You CANT kill enough to make a difference more just move in Not if you seal up the holes they're entering through. |
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On 6/29/2014 12:31 AM, rbowman wrote:
bob haller wrote: Its just as easy to evict them, besides they are kinda cute. What's a little hantavirus amongst friends. My first response is eviction. If they don't stay evicted, I escalate. Hantavirus isn't a big problem in the U.S. But leptospirosis is. It's not the mice, but their urine, that carries it. So it's not enough to trap the mice. Afterwards, clean the areas they had infested. -- Steven L. |
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On 6/28/2014 8:03 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
On 6/28/2014 5:31 PM, bob haller wrote: I had a infestation at one time, after buying a 100 pound sack of sunflower seeds for winter bird feeding... I used a live box trap emptied at least twice a day outside. all the mice survived except the old grey elderly ones. I DONT BELIEVE IN KILLING ANYTHING UNNECESSARILY! Trap and release, is like scooping water from one side of the boat, and pour it onto the other side. Some animals need to be killed. So do some Homo Sapiens. -- Steven L. |
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Steven L. wrote:
Hantavirus isn't a big problem in the U.S. But leptospirosis is. It's around. http://www.cdc.gov/hantavirus/survei...-exposure.html http://unews.utah.edu/old/p/122308-1.html A couple of people in Utah died in 2012 and there was a confirmed case in Kane County, UT this spring. I'm not much of a hypochondriac but when I was cleaning out a shed that a pack rat had taken up residence in I had a few thoughts about a HazMat suit. Leptospirosis at about 100 cases a year is a marginally larger problem than hantovirus at 25-30. Considering 50% of the leptospirosis cases are in Hawaii and the rest are mainly in the northeast, hantavirus is of more interest to me. |
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Don Wiss wrote:
Whatever, somehow the mouse got into a can half filled with fat. It was swimming around and couldn't get out. I put the can into a few layers of plastic bags and out with the garbage it went. That's a variant on the trash container theme; fill it with a few inches of water and let the mouse drown. I consider that cruel and unusual compared to SNAP, you're dead. As a matter of interest, a motivated mouse can jump a little more than halfway up the standard 13 gallon kitchen trash can. |
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On 6/28/2014 11:13 AM, KenK wrote:
I'm not having much success luring poor innocent mice into my cruel old- fashioned mousetrap with a trigger and spring-loaded bale. I've tried raw bacon for bail with slight success, peanut butter with none. I've tried a newer trap that lets them in but not out. Worked once over many years. Other traps? Bait you've used with success? Cats?(Mine died a few years ago and I've never replaced her - I'm too old. it would long outlive me.) Electronic traps - I have several years experience with the Rat Zapper in the shop and in the wife's kitchen garden (chipmunks like her herbsg) http://www.victorpest.com/store/hot-buys Didn't think we had much of a problem until we bought these. Set one in the garage in early December and over the course of three days, killed 9 of the little ****s. Brought one in the house and had two in two days and then nothing. Dry dog food nuggets work like a charm for bait or... The chipmunk nailed today went into an unbaited trap. Whatever you use... location, location, location. Mice and rats tend to scurry along walls so place it parallel to the wall, right alongside the baseboard |
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On 28 Jun 2014 16:13:57 GMT, KenK wrote:
Other traps? Bait you've used with success? Cats?(Mine died a few years ago and I've never replaced her - I'm too old. it would long outlive me.) feral cats? --- news://freenews.netfront.net/ - complaints: --- |
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first SEAL ALL OUTSIDE ENTRY POINTS!
then livetrap and release.... once they cant get back into uor home the problem will go away. plus dont be stuipd like I was, storing food like sunflower seeds in the basement.. the mice were busy, they had moved much of the 100 pound sack all thruout the basement. in addition during some kitchen remodeling I put cement around all entry points so mice couldnt use my plumbing as raceways...... |
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Dean Hoffman " wrote in
: On 6/28/14, 4:48 PM, Terry Coombs wrote: I hear they make great cat food . Since we got chickens , there's feed and hay/straw around feed IS in a metal can w/lid and now we got mice . Currently awaiting the delivery of 2 feline rodent control specialists . The day I opened my rollaway toolbox drawer to have a mama with 6 attached leap out at me decided me . They stay outside or they die . There's plenty of stuff out in the woods for them to eat . The good, old fashioned, stinky moth balls seem to work as a repellant. They seem to work ok keeping meeses out of old farm building cabinets. I didn't know that! I'll try it! All uncanned food now in plastic storage containers; shouldn't take much to get them to move out. -- "Things would be a lot nicer if antique people were valued as highly as antique furniture!" Anon |
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Nestor wrote in
: On 28 Jun 2014 16:13:57 GMT, KenK wrote: Other traps? Bait you've used with success? Cats?(Mine died a few years ago and I've never replaced her - I'm too old. it would long outlive me.) feral cats? --- news://freenews.netfront.net/ - complaints: --- I feed several. Not sure I'd want one in the house though. Decidedly not very good company. Probably wouldn't use the litter pan. Cat door and let them freely come in and out? I dunno. Doesn't sound like a very good isea. -- "Things would be a lot nicer if antique people were valued as highly as antique furniture!" Anon |
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On Mon, 30 Jun 2014, bob haller wrote:
plus dont be stuipd like I was, storing food like sunflower seeds in the basement.. the mice were busy, they had moved much of the 100 pound sack all thruout the basement. 100 pound bags are awfully heavy. I was buying this in 50 pound bags. I stored them inside only one season. They brought me moths. I then moved to storing them outside. I can put two of them inside a metal garbage can. I have a spring that goes through the lid handle and connects to each side handle. I briefly tried a plastic garbage can. The squirrels tried to chew through it. Outside is also very convenient to the bird feeder. Don. www.donwiss.com (e-mail link at home page bottom). |
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On 6/29/2014 3:19 PM, rbowman wrote:
Don Wiss wrote: Whatever, somehow the mouse got into a can half filled with fat. It was swimming around and couldn't get out. I put the can into a few layers of plastic bags and out with the garbage it went. That's a variant on the trash container theme; fill it with a few inches of water and let the mouse drown. I consider that cruel and unusual compared to SNAP, you're dead. As a matter of interest, a motivated mouse can jump a little more than halfway up the standard 13 gallon kitchen trash can. Reminds me of a couple of experiences: SNAP, you're dead is not necessarily so. Cold night I heard a snap in the furnace room and rather than throw the mouse out the door, I opted to flush him. He revived in the toilet bowl and tried to get out but got flushed anyway. It's more like, snap and suffocate. Glue traps work but a mouse may gnaw off a leg trying to escape. I've seen it happen. Caught one in a glue trap at friends hunting camp and watching him struggle tossed him and the trap into the firebox. Watching him burn still burns in my mind after many years. |
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On 6/29/2014 6:03 AM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
On 6/29/2014 12:27 AM, rbowman wrote: bob haller wrote: I DONT BELIEVE IN KILLING ANYTHING UNNECESSARILY! How many repeat offenders did you have? Sounds like mouse heaven to me. Eat the bait in the live trap, get a trip outside, rinse and repeat. Fish & Game plays the same game culvert trapping problem bears, At least they tranq the bear so he wakes up with a hangover and splitting headache that slows him down on the return to his favorite bird feeder. And we can mention the TX / Mexico border. Huge mouse traps would solve that problem |
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KenK wrote in
: Dean Hoffman " wrote in : On 6/28/14, 4:48 PM, Terry Coombs wrote: I hear they make great cat food . Since we got chickens , there's feed and hay/straw around feed IS in a metal can w/lid and now we got mice . Currently awaiting the delivery of 2 feline rodent control specialists . The day I opened my rollaway toolbox drawer to have a mama with 6 attached leap out at me decided me . They stay outside or they die . There's plenty of stuff out in the woods for them to eat . The good, old fashioned, stinky moth balls seem to work as a repellant. They seem to work ok keeping meeses out of old farm building cabinets. I didn't know that! I'll try it! All uncanned food now in plastic storage containers; shouldn't take much to get them to move out. I researched the moth balls on Google earlier. There seems to be a wide difference in opinion on whether they work on mice. I bought a package of moth balls and will try them anyway. AFAIK I have all the mouse-openable food packages now stored in fairly thick plastic lidded large containers. Shouldn't take much to encourage them to look for another home. -- "Things would be a lot nicer if antique people were valued as highly as antique furniture!" Anon |
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"KenK" wrote in message ... KenK wrote in : Dean Hoffman " wrote in : On 6/28/14, 4:48 PM, Terry Coombs wrote: I hear they make great cat food . Since we got chickens , there's feed and hay/straw around feed IS in a metal can w/lid and now we got mice . Currently awaiting the delivery of 2 feline rodent control specialists . The day I opened my rollaway toolbox drawer to have a mama with 6 attached leap out at me decided me . They stay outside or they die . There's plenty of stuff out in the woods for them to eat . The good, old fashioned, stinky moth balls seem to work as a repellant. They seem to work ok keeping meeses out of old farm building cabinets. I didn't know that! I'll try it! All uncanned food now in plastic storage containers; shouldn't take much to get them to move out. I researched the moth balls on Google earlier. There seems to be a wide difference in opinion on whether they work on mice. I bought a package of moth balls and will try them anyway. AFAIK I have all the mouse-openable food packages now stored in fairly thick plastic lidded large containers. Shouldn't take much to encourage them to look for another home. Peppermint oil seems to be the current thinking. |
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