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I need 50 mouse traps
I need 50 mouse traps. These are the small 8.5 cm x 4.5 cm traps with
a wood base (about playing card size), not the big rat trap size. No, I don't have a monster infestation of rodents. I teach physics and my students have to make mouse trap powered cars. My only known source of traps has been put out of business. Does anyone know of a source of 50 traps? Better yet, is there a company that makes mouse traps in Manila so I could get them right from the factory? Ken |
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Ken wrote:
I need 50 mouse traps. These are the small 8.5 cm x 4.5 cm traps with a wood base (about playing card size), not the big rat trap size. No, I don't have a monster infestation of rodents. I teach physics and my students have to make mouse trap powered cars. My only known source of traps has been put out of business. Does anyone know of a source of 50 traps? Better yet, is there a company that makes mouse traps in Manila so I could get them right from the factory? Ken Victor still makes the wooden base spring traps. http://www.bestnest.com/bestnest/RTP...p?SKU=VIC-M035 -- Bill in Hamptonburgh, NY To email, delete the double zeroes after @ |
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Ken wrote:
I need 50 mouse traps. These are the small 8.5 cm x 4.5 cm traps with a wood base (about playing card size), not the big rat trap size. No, I don't have a monster infestation of rodents. I teach physics and my students have to make mouse trap powered cars. My only known source of traps has been put out of business. Does anyone know of a source of 50 traps? Better yet, is there a company that makes mouse traps in Manila so I could get them right from the factory? Here's some for $.17 each. Google is your friend. I particularily like the plastic ones from China, but no price. http://www.dollardays.com/i-215660-n...use-traps.html |
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"Ken" wrote in message ups.com... I need 50 mouse traps. These are the small 8.5 cm x 4.5 cm traps with a wood base (about playing card size), not the big rat trap size. No, I don't have a monster infestation of rodents. I teach physics and my students have to make mouse trap powered cars. My only known source of traps has been put out of business. Does anyone know of a source of 50 traps? Better yet, is there a company that makes mouse traps in Manila so I could get them right from the factory? Ken Local school here in the States was into the same project. Teacher tried his best to get around the suppliers. In the end I went to the local hardware store, told the owner what we were doing. A box of 72 traps was $40.00, the store owner reduced the price to $32.00 then offered to split the difference with me as long as the instructor mentioned the supplies were donated by XX and YY. Everything turned out fine.... (you need a sponsor). Bill |
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Ken wrote: I need 50 mouse traps. These are the small 8.5 cm x 4.5 cm traps with a wood base (about playing card size), not the big rat trap size. No, I don't have a monster infestation of rodents. I teach physics and my students have to make mouse trap powered cars. My only known source of traps has been put out of business. Does anyone know of a source of 50 traps? Better yet, is there a company that makes mouse traps in Manila so I could get them right from the factory? Ken I have a rather unusual idea. Why don't these "students" make their own. They would have to learn to make springs. this involves learning what metals to use. How to bend metal, how to heat treat and temper to make a spring. you could also have them do it like in former times with only a forge and color to measure tempering(like I can do). Use tools (maybe a lawsuit possible here). It amazes me how little of actual practical value i learned in school. |
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wrote Use tools (maybe a lawsuit possible here). It amazes me how little of actual practical value i learned in school. I was confused about why a college educated person was more valuable than one with HKU learning. (Hard Knocks University) A man once said that in college, they teach you how to learn. How to identify the problem, and how to find the solutions. Not so much on teaching you the dates and places and facts. Then it made sense. I think that school also is an indicator that a person can stay with something for a good while, and not move on or quit. MHO Steve |
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Steve B wrote: wrote Use tools (maybe a lawsuit possible here). It amazes me how little of actual practical value i learned in school. I was confused about why a college educated person was more valuable than one with HKU learning. (Hard Knocks University) A man once said that in college, they teach you how to learn. How to identify the problem, and how to find the solutions. Not so much on teaching you the dates and places and facts. Then it made sense. I think that school also is an indicator that a person can stay with something for a good while, and not move on or quit. Yeah, not enough people realize the value of that latter point. You know on a resume or interview they always want to ask you what project did you accomplish that turned out well? Well, a college degree or, even better, a grad degree, shows that at least once in your life you could stick to a project for four years or so, carry it through a bunch of personal distractions, basically manage yourself to satisfactorily achieve a distant goal without every detail being laid out for you. |
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On 31 Dec 2006 01:32:22 -0800, "Ken" wrote:
I need 50 mouse traps. These are the small 8.5 cm x 4.5 cm traps with a wood base (about playing card size), not the big rat trap size. No, I don't have a monster infestation of rodents. I teach physics and my students have to make mouse trap powered cars. My only known source of traps has been put out of business. Does anyone know of a source of 50 traps? Better yet, is there a company that makes mouse traps in Manila so I could get them right from the factory? There was a time when one could just go to a store and say he wanted to buy a lot of something, and make a deal on the price. In theory some managers even of big box stores have the power to do this now, but I think they would find the paperwork daunting. But small stores where the owner or a real manager is on the premises can do it. I wanted to buy a life-time supply of double edged razor blades (not the silly twin blades but the double-edged.) and thought I should make a deal with a store, but I never got around to it, and then I panicked when Walgreens and Giant were only selling one item each (and Walgreens wanted 10 dollars for 10 blades, although Giant only wanted 3 dollars for 10 blades. So I went to ebaay and bought 200 for about 18 dollars including postage. They're made in Turkey but seem sharp enough. Much of the rest of the world still uses standard double edged blades instead of the Trac-9 and other strange things in the US. Because I have a beard and don't shave at all most days, it's hard to tell how many I will need in the next, 35 years, God willing, but I think 200 will handle it. If not I will have to go abroad to buy more. Add 1 or 2000 dollars to the price. Ken |
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I'm still waitin' for somebody to make a better one.
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Steve B wrote: wrote Use tools (maybe a lawsuit possible here). It amazes me how little of actual practical value i learned in school. I was confused about why a college educated person was more valuable than one with HKU learning. (Hard Knocks University) A man once said that in college, they teach you how to learn. How to identify the problem, and how to find the solutions. Not so much on teaching you the dates and places and facts. Then it made sense. I think that school also is an indicator that a person can stay with something for a good while, and not move on or quit. Considering the grade inflation today and how little people have to actually do to complete their degree to me it means less and less every year. I see what is coming out of college and i am not impressed. By the way I have 200 hours of college(no degree) and also 15 years of practical experience in machining, manufacturing and now industrial maintenance. College is just a club and a degree gets you into a club of other club members. My experience is that the best machinists would make much better engineers than your average graduate with a degree. Ken |
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I'd suggest to check on www.google.com and click the link on the
right "other services; Froogle". That, or www.ebay.com and look for companies in Hong Kong, they ship anywhere. Good luck. -- Christopher A. Young You can't shout down a troll. You have to starve them. .. "Ken" wrote in message ups.com... I need 50 mouse traps. These are the small 8.5 cm x 4.5 cm traps with a wood base (about playing card size), not the big rat trap size. No, I don't have a monster infestation of rodents. I teach physics and my students have to make mouse trap powered cars. My only known source of traps has been put out of business. Does anyone know of a source of 50 traps? Better yet, is there a company that makes mouse traps in Manila so I could get them right from the factory? Ken |
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Steve B wrote: wrote Use tools (maybe a lawsuit possible here). It amazes me how little of actual practical value i learned in school. I was confused about why a college educated person was more valuable than one with HKU learning. (Hard Knocks University) A man once said that in college, they teach you how to learn. How to identify the problem, and how to find the solutions. Not so much on teaching you the dates and places and facts. Then it made sense. I think that school also is an indicator that a person can stay with something for a good while, and not move on or quit. Yeah, not enough people realize the value of that latter point. You know on a resume or interview they always want to ask you what project did you accomplish that turned out well? Well, a college degree or, even better, a grad degree, shows that at least once in your life you could stick to a project for four years or so, carry it through a bunch of personal distractions, basically manage yourself to satisfactorily achieve a distant goal without every detail being laid out for you. I beleve I read a recent post on alt.hvac which had words like, "Work on things to learn how, but also take courses to learn why." Made sense to me... Jeff -- Jeffry Wisnia (W1BSV + Brass Rat '57 EE) The speed of light is 1.98*10^14 fathoms per fortnight. |
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On 31 Dec 2006 01:32:22 -0800, "Ken" wrote: I need 50 mouse traps. These are the small 8.5 cm x 4.5 cm traps with a wood base (about playing card size), not the big rat trap size. No, I don't have a monster infestation of rodents. I teach physics and my students have to make mouse trap powered cars. My only known source of traps has been put out of business. Does anyone know of a source of 50 traps? Better yet, is there a company that makes mouse traps in Manila so I could get them right from the factory? There was a time when one could just go to a store and say he wanted to buy a lot of something, and make a deal on the price. In theory some managers even of big box stores have the power to do this now, but I think they would find the paperwork daunting. But small stores where the owner or a real manager is on the premises can do it. I wanted to buy a life-time supply of double edged razor blades (not the silly twin blades but the double-edged.) and thought I should make a deal with a store, but I never got around to it, and then I panicked when Walgreens and Giant were only selling one item each (and Walgreens wanted 10 dollars for 10 blades, although Giant only wanted 3 dollars for 10 blades. So I went to ebaay and bought 200 for about 18 dollars including postage. They're made in Turkey but seem sharp enough. Much of the rest of the world still uses standard double edged blades instead of the Trac-9 and other strange things in the US. Because I have a beard and don't shave at all most days, it's hard to tell how many I will need in the next, 35 years, God willing, but I think 200 will handle it. If not I will have to go abroad to buy more. Add 1 or 2000 dollars to the price. Ken Didja ever learn how to "resharpen" or "hone" those double edge blades by rubbing them around the inside of a drinking glass? How about those Wilkenson Sword" blades imported from England, which IIRC the first stainless steel blades available in the USA? They had office mates bragging about how mant shaves they could get from one blade. I fondly remember King Gillette's "Blue Blades", and even the "foxhole radios" made from them during WWII. http://members.aol.com/djadamson7/articles/foxhole.html I believe it was King Gillette who first came up with the concept of "giving away" the razors so he could then sell you the blades forever. Thanks for the mammaries, Jeff -- Jeffry Wisnia (W1BSV + Brass Rat '57 EE) The speed of light is 1.98*10^14 fathoms per fortnight. |
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"Steve B" wrote in message ... wrote Use tools (maybe a lawsuit possible here). It amazes me how little of actual practical value i learned in school. I was confused about why a college educated person was more valuable than one with HKU learning. (Hard Knocks University) A man once said that in college, they teach you how to learn. How to identify the problem, and how to find the solutions. Not so much on teaching you the dates and places and facts. Then it made sense. I think that school also is an indicator that a person can stay with something for a good while, and not move on or quit. Sounds good in theory and sometimes college grads. only know about theory. I only had high school education with a couple of courses at a college, but I hired and had a number of college grads who worked for me. Some were good, others knew so little about the business they were trained in that it was like I had hired a total amateur. I placed little importance on college degrees and more importance on knowledge and the ability to learn quickly. |
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"Jeff Wisnia" wrote in message . .. mm wrote: (snip) I fondly remember King Gillette's "Blue Blades", and even the "foxhole radios" made from them during WWII. http://members.aol.com/djadamson7/articles/foxhole.html I believe it was King Gillette who first came up with the concept of "giving away" the razors so he could then sell you the blades forever. A concept that HP, Lexmark, and the other printer companies have taken to heart- sell the printer for next to nothing, and screw them over on the refills. Lotsa people find a new inkjet only costs a few bucks more than new carts for their year-old printers, and just throw away the old ones. aem sends... |
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On Tue, 02 Jan 2007 03:40:54 GMT, wrote:
"Jeff Wisnia" wrote in message ... mm wrote: I find it too much trouble to sharpen blades when the possibility of buying new ones was still reasonable. I actually have some sort of razor blade sharpener, about 5 inches in diameter and an inch thick, with a fold-out crank handle. It has a clamp for the blade and a leather wheel that works as a much more effeciient strop. One pushes the blade against the wheel and as one cranks, it gradually lifts the blade up, so one knows when he is done. But handling a double edged blade to get it in right was not easy. And either restoring multiple blades, or having to sharpen only one at a time and putting it back in the razor when done were both inconvenient. I can't remember where I got it. It was in perfect condition when I got it, but I made the sad mistake of displaying it in the bathroom (seemed appropriate) and even though I only take baths in that bathroom and not hot or steamy baths, and nothing else shows water damage, it rusted some. Maybe when I have time, I can clean it up. Usually I use a wire wheel, but the underlying steel surface was almost mirror smooth. I do wonder sometimes if the edges of the 200 blades I just bought will get dull even if they aren't used. Does anyone know? For example, I think some plastic is a very thick liquid and will deform just because of gravity with enough time. I think the shop teacher said that about glass, and that window panes eventually become thicker at the bottom and thinner at the top. (snip) I fondly remember King Gillette's "Blue Blades", and even the "foxhole radios" made from them during WWII. http://members.aol.com/djadamson7/articles/foxhole.html I believe it was King Gillette who first came up with the concept of "giving away" the razors so he could then sell you the blades forever. A concept that HP, Lexmark, and the other printer companies have taken to heart- sell the printer for next to nothing, and screw them over on the refills. Lotsa people find a new inkjet only costs a few bucks more than new carts for their year-old printers, and just throw away the old ones. Maybe a good time to mention that some Walgreens drugstores will refill cartridges. It says "Savings of up to 50%. Takes only a few minutes" So that seems to mean they refill yours when you bring it in, and you save no more than 50% of the cost of a new one. I'll still do it at home. Plus the fact that the Walgreens near me don't do it, and the three in Baltimore that do are on Harford Rd. Belair Rd. and in Essex or Dundalk. Far away. But Walgreens has big advantages in that it is open on Christmas and New Years and even sells some food. Some like the one near me are open 24-hours a day. A year or two ago, I had to go to my uncle's funeral, a"h, and I wanted to go see my grandparents' first home about 50 miles away, and I had forgotten to bring a camera. Walgreens was open on Xmas day, when nothing else was, and sold them. The apartment building that my grandparents moved to in 1907 had been torn down, but I still got satisfaction from seeing it. I recently got the address from my grandmother's Ellis Island papers. www.ellisislandrecords.com iirc. My grandfather had come about 6 months earlier. aem sends... |
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EXT wrote: "Steve B" wrote in message ... wrote Use tools (maybe a lawsuit possible here). It amazes me how little of actual practical value i learned in school. I was confused about why a college educated person was more valuable than one with HKU learning. (Hard Knocks University) A man once said that in college, they teach you how to learn. How to identify the problem, and how to find the solutions. Not so much on teaching you the dates and places and facts. Then it made sense. I think that school also is an indicator that a person can stay with something for a good while, and not move on or quit. Sounds good in theory and sometimes college grads. only know about theory. I only had high school education with a couple of courses at a college, but I hired and had a number of college grads who worked for me. Some were good, others knew so little about the business they were trained in that it was like I had hired a total amateur. I placed little importance on college degrees and more importance on knowledge and the ability to learn quickly. A lot of grief has come from the belief that if you go to business school and get a business degree, then you can run a business, any business, without having to know anything about it. |
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mm wrote: I do wonder sometimes if the edges of the 200 blades I just bought will get dull even if they aren't used. Does anyone know? I wonder how much of the dulling of a blade is corrosion. Otherwise, why have stainless steel blades? And how much corrosion is affected by scraping the thing on your skin. For example, I think some plastic is a very thick liquid and will deform just because of gravity with enough time. I think the shop teacher said that about glass, and that window panes eventually become thicker at the bottom and thinner at the top. Nah, that's kind of an urban legend in practice. I've seen it worked out, and over a thousand years at normal temperatures you'd see like a couple of microns of flow. On the other hand, we all know that aluminum wiring will squeeze itself out from under a screw head over time, don't we? (snip) I fondly remember King Gillette's "Blue Blades", and even the "foxhole radios" made from them during WWII. What about "injector" razors? I still have mine. |
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