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I am getting static from other occupant about squeaky hardwood floor in hall, through which I must constantly pass.

He's light sleeper; won't use ear plugs; I have to do ***something.***

This is an old So. Calif. stucco house. Crawl space -- no basement.

I just read up on this squeaky hardwood problem, but my days of getting under there with the black widow spiders are over.

This one is from on top.

http://www.ehow.com/how_5704292_fix-...od-floors.html

There's also a site that suggests sprinkling baking soda down the cracks.
Anybody tried this?

Would welcome any experience.


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I am getting static from other occupant about squeaky hardwood floor in hall, through which I must constantly pass.

He's light sleeper; won't use ear plugs;


I can easily use ear plugs when awake and I do. When sleeping, they are
scary or worse.

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I am getting static from other occupant about squeaky hardwood floor in hall, through which I must constantly pass.

He's light sleeper; won't use ear plugs; I have to do ***something.***

This is an old So. Calif. stucco house. Crawl space -- no basement.

I just read up on this squeaky hardwood problem, but my days of getting under there with the black widow spiders are over.

This one is from on top.

http://www.ehow.com/how_5704292_fix-...od-floors.html

There's also a site that suggests sprinkling baking soda down the cracks.
Anybody tried this?

Would welcome any experience.


HB


I have them too. I saw on TOH years ago where Tom Silva used screws
specially made for tightening squeeky floors. You pre-drill a pilot
hole and screw them into the flooring so it secures the flooring to a
joist below it. Then the top of the nail shank can be broken off
leaving the secure part of the screw below the surface of the
flooring. Looks pretty effective (if you don't mind little holes in
your floor stips).

I'd search google for "silencing squeeky floors" Good luck.
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I am getting static from other occupant about squeaky hardwood floor in hall, through which I must constantly pass.




He's light sleeper; won't use ear plugs; I have to do ***something.***




This is an old So. Calif. stucco house. Crawl space -- no basement.




I just read up on this squeaky hardwood problem, but my days of getting under there with the black widow spiders are over.




This one is from on top.




http://www.ehow.com/how_5704292_fix-...od-floors.html




There's also a site that suggests sprinkling baking soda down the cracks.


Anybody tried this?




Would welcome any experience.






HB






I have them too. I saw on TOH years ago where Tom Silva used screws

specially made for tightening squeeky floors. You pre-drill a pilot

hole and screw them into the flooring so it secures the flooring to a

joist below it. Then the top of the nail shank can be broken off

leaving the secure part of the screw below the surface of the

flooring. Looks pretty effective (if you don't mind little holes in

your floor stips).


Thanks; I did find a site -- think it was TOH -- about that procedure. The screw head is supposed to break off below level automatically, after which one fills the hole with (colored) wood filler.

Any actual experience out there?

I'd search google for "silencing squeaky floors" Good luck.


I'm workin' on it. Real world experience like this NG is so valuable!

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He's light sleeper; won't use ear plugs; I have to do ***something.***


He's the one complaining, why doesn't HE do something?

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It probably isn't the hardwood at all.

Here's how they build a house:
First you have the floor joists. Then they put 3/4 inch plywood or 1X6 lumber boards over the floor joists, and that's the "subfloor". Then they build the walls of the house over the subfloor. Then they put thin plywood or particle board "underlayment" down over the subfloor in each room. Then they install the actual flooring (harwood, carpet, ceramic tile) over the underlayment.

Normally, when floors squeek it's because the subfloor is rubbing on a nail that's supposed to be holding the subfloor down. What happens is that if they put the floor joists in when they're still too wet, the floor joists shrink in size, and as they shrink a gap opens up between the subfloor and the floor joists. The squeek you hear is the nail and the subfloor vibrating as they rub on one another as you walk over that area of the floor.
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Have you thought of losing some weight???
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I am getting static from other occupant about squeaky hardwood floor in
hall, through which I must constantly pass.

He's light sleeper; won't use ear plugs; I have to do ***something.***

This is an old So. Calif. stucco house. Crawl space -- no basement.

I just read up on this squeaky hardwood problem, but my days of getting
under there with the black widow spiders are over.

This one is from on top.

http://www.ehow.com/how_5704292_fix-...od-floors.html

There's also a site that suggests sprinkling baking soda down the cracks.
Anybody tried this?

Would welcome any experience.


HB


I've used nails, shims on top of joists, and finishing a floor with coats
of polyurethane. Never tried screws.

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Higgs Boson wrote:

I am getting static from other occupant about squeaky hardwood floor in


hall, through which I must constantly pass.




He's light sleeper; won't use ear plugs; I have to do ***something.***




This is an old So. Calif. stucco house. Crawl space -- no basement.




I just read up on this squeaky hardwood problem, but my days of getting


under there with the black widow spiders are over.




This one is from on top.




http://www.ehow.com/how_5704292_fix-...od-floors.html




There's also a site that suggests sprinkling baking soda down the cracks.


Anybody tried this?




Would welcome any experience.






HB




I've used nails, shims on top of joists, and finishing a floor with coats

of polyurethane. Never tried screws.


The shim method gets recommended a lot, but I'd rather not get down in the crawl space with the black widow spiders if I can fix it from inside.

How does finishing floor with urethane cure squeak?

TIA

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I am getting static from other occupant about squeaky hardwood floor in hall, through which I must constantly pass.

He's light sleeper; won't use ear plugs; I have to do ***something.***

This is an old So. Calif. stucco house. Crawl space -- no basement.

I just read up on this squeaky hardwood problem, but my days of getting under there with the black widow spiders are over.

This one is from on top.

http://www.ehow.com/how_5704292_fix-...od-floors.html

There's also a site that suggests sprinkling baking soda down the cracks.
Anybody tried this?

Would welcome any experience.


HB


Have the whiner notify the landlord and he'll get right to it...

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On Monday, June 9, 2014 9:49:24 PM UTC-7, Gz wrote:

Higgs Boson wrote:




I am getting static from other occupant about squeaky hardwood floor in




hall, through which I must constantly pass.








He's light sleeper; won't use ear plugs; I have to do ***something.***



This is an old So. Calif. stucco house. Crawl space -- no basement.


I just read up on this squeaky hardwood problem, but my days of getting


under there with the black widow spiders are over.


This one is from on top.



http://www.ehow.com/how_5704292_fix-...od-floors.html


There's also a site that suggests sprinkling baking soda down the cracks.


Anybody tried this?


Would welcome any experience.












HB








I've used nails, shims on top of joists, and finishing a floor with coats




of polyurethane. Never tried screws.




The shim method gets recommended a lot, but I'd rather not get down in the crawl space with the black widow spiders if I can fix it from inside.


How does finishing floor with urethane cure squeak?


Yo, Greg - what's with the urethane floor squeak? RSVP SVP

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I am getting static from other occupant about squeaky hardwood floor in hall, through which I must constantly pass.



He's light sleeper; won't use ear plugs; I have to do ***something.***



This is an old So. Calif. stucco house. Crawl space -- no basement.



I just read up on this squeaky hardwood problem, but my days of getting under there with the black widow spiders are over.



This one is from on top.



http://www.ehow.com/how_5704292_fix-...od-floors.html



There's also a site that suggests sprinkling baking soda down the cracks.

Anybody tried this?



Would welcome any experience.





HB


well you might try a plush rug pad and thick carpet...

but start by paying someone knowledgable to do the job
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And I know how to SNIP


I am getting static from other occupant about squeaky hardwood floor in hall, through which I must constantly pass.




He's light sleeper; won't use ear plugs; I have to do ***something.***




This is an old So. Calif. stucco house. Crawl space -- no basement.




I just read up on this squeaky hardwood problem, but my days of getting under there with the black widow spiders are over.




This one is from on top.




http://www.ehow.com/how_5704292_fix-...od-floors.html




There's also a site that suggests sprinkling baking soda down the cracks.


Anybody tried this?




Would welcome any experience.






HB




Have the whiner notify the landlord and he'll get right to it...


It's my ancient castle, and I have to do most everything I can do, and some things I can't. Lucked out earlier this; recommended handyman did a bunch of stuff much better than I could, but need to watch my pennies.


BAKING SODA!!!!
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On Tuesday, June 10, 2014 5:24:43 PM UTC-7, Tekkie® wrote:

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And I know how to SNIP




I am getting static from other occupant about squeaky hardwood floor in hall, through which I must constantly pass.








He's light sleeper; won't use ear plugs; I have to do ***something.***








This is an old So. Calif. stucco house. Crawl space -- no basement.








I just read up on this squeaky hardwood problem, but my days of getting under there with the black widow spiders are over.








This one is from on top.








http://www.ehow.com/how_5704292_fix-...od-floors.html








There's also a site that suggests sprinkling baking soda down the cracks.




Anybody tried this?








Would welcome any experience.



HB



Have the whiner notify the landlord and he'll get right to it...


I'm the "landlord" (owner) and I have to do most everything I can do, and some things I can't. Know a wonderful handyman, but can only afford to use him for stuff I REALLY can't. Was thinking about it when I read here about



BAKING SODA!!!!


(oops...musta hit Send..)

Whoinhellwouldathought baking soda would work!!!!

I strewed it over trial area that squeaks worst; mooshed it sideways into cracks, spread carpet over it and mooshed around some more.

SQUEAK LESSENED!!!

Figures, when you think of it, which I did not; it fills cracks between old hardwood strips to keep them from rubbing against each other. Now will expand treatment to most-trodden areas -- "paths" that one follows from room to room -- and see how long treatment lasts.

Joy to the world!!!!

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On Monday, June 9, 2014 9:49:24 PM UTC-7, Gz wrote:
Higgs Boson wrote:

I am getting static from other occupant about squeaky hardwood floor in


hall, through which I must constantly pass.




He's light sleeper; won't use ear plugs; I have to do ***something.***




This is an old So. Calif. stucco house. Crawl space -- no basement.




I just read up on this squeaky hardwood problem, but my days of getting


under there with the black widow spiders are over.




This one is from on top.




http://www.ehow.com/how_5704292_fix-...od-floors.html




There's also a site that suggests sprinkling baking soda down the cracks.


Anybody tried this?




Would welcome any experience.






HB




I've used nails, shims on top of joists, and finishing a floor with coats

of polyurethane. Never tried screws.


The shim method gets recommended a lot, but I'd rather not get down in
the crawl space with the black widow spiders if I can fix it from inside.

How does finishing floor with urethane cure squeak?

TIA

HB


Holds the individual boards together.

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And I know how to SNIP

BAKING SODA!!!!


(oops...musta hit Send..)

Whoinhellwouldathought baking soda would work!!!!

I strewed it over trial area that squeaks worst; mooshed it sideways into cracks, spread carpet over it and mooshed around some more.

SQUEAK LESSENED!!!

Figures, when you think of it, which I did not; it fills cracks between old hardwood strips to keep them from rubbing against each other. Now will expand treatment to most-trodden areas -- "paths" that one follows from room to room -- and see how long treatment lasts.

Joy to the world!!!!

HB

Measure with your amp and headphones! I am sorry Higgy but I could not
resist...


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On Friday, June 13, 2014 7:19:44 PM UTC-7, Tekkie® wrote:
Higgs Boson posted for all of us...


And I know how to SNIP


BAKING SODA!!!!


(oops...musta hit Send..)


Whoinhellwouldathought baking soda would work!!!!




I strewed it over trial area that squeaks worst; mooshed it sideways into cracks, spread carpet over it and mooshed around some more.




SQUEAK LESSENED!!!




Figures, when you think of it, which I did not; it fills cracks between old hardwood strips to keep them from rubbing against each other. Now will expand treatment to most-trodden areas -- "paths" that one follows from room to room -- and see how long treatment lasts.




Joy to the world!!!!




HB


Measure with your amp and headphones! I am sorry Higgy but I could not

resist...


No prob, Tekkie..I could use a little humor at this point. When I wear my hearing aids, the floor creaking is beyond belief. Bet it would blow the amp & headphones g.

It doesn't look like the baking soda will do it, long-term, so I have to gear up to do the drill w/tiny bit, screw that break off head, fill holes. Courtesy of a couple of NG members and Web sites. Thanks, guys.

I hate the damn hearing aids, but the audiologist said they would "reprogram" my brain after a year, so the noise volume isn't so startling. Au contraire, I'm losing the few marbles I had left vbg

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On Monday, June 9, 2014 12:16:24 PM UTC-7, Higgs Boson wrote:
I am getting static from other occupant about squeaky hardwood floor in hall, through which I must constantly pass.


[...]

This is an old So. Calif. stucco house. Crawl space -- no basement.

I just read up on this squeaky hardwood problem, but my days of getting under there with the black widow spiders are over.



[..]
http://www.ehow.com/how_5704292_fix-...od-floors.html


[...]

Would welcome any experience.


Update: This site

http://www.squeakyfloor.com/counter-snap.html

has a simple, clear video about how to use their kits, both into joist and just into subfloor.

They don't say how far apart screws should be driven. Many of my squeaky floor boards are 10' long or more. Any advice?

TIA

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On Friday, June 13, 2014 7:19:44 PM UTC-7, Tekkie® wrote:
Higgs Boson posted for all of us...


And I know how to SNIP


BAKING SODA!!!!


(oops...musta hit Send..)


Whoinhellwouldathought baking soda would work!!!!




I strewed it over trial area that squeaks worst; mooshed it sideways into cracks, spread carpet over it and mooshed around some more.




SQUEAK LESSENED!!!




Figures, when you think of it, which I did not; it fills cracks between old hardwood strips to keep them from rubbing against each other. Now will expand treatment to most-trodden areas -- "paths" that one follows from room to room -- and see how long treatment lasts.




Joy to the world!!!!




HB


Measure with your amp and headphones! I am sorry Higgy but I could not

resist...


No prob, Tekkie..I could use a little humor at this point. When I wear my hearing aids, the floor creaking is beyond belief. Bet it would blow the amp & headphones g.

It doesn't look like the baking soda will do it, long-term, so I have to gear up to do the drill w/tiny bit, screw that break off head, fill holes. Courtesy of a couple of NG members and Web sites. Thanks, guys.

I hate the damn hearing aids, but the audiologist said they would "reprogram" my brain after a year, so the noise volume isn't so startling. Au contraire, I'm losing the few marbles I had left vbg

HB


Higgy, I consider hearing aids a racket. I understand they work - mostly -
but I am very wary of the salespeople. Big bux aren't they?

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On Friday, June 13, 2014 7:19:44 PM UTC-7, Tekkie® wrote:


Higgs Boson posted for all of us...


No prob, Tekkie..I could use a little humor at this point. When I wear my hearing aids, the floor creaking is beyond belief. Bet it would blow the amp & headphones g.

[...]


I hate the damn hearing aids, but the audiologist said they would "reprogram" my brain after a year, so the noise volume isn't so startling. Au contraire, I'm losing the few marbles I had left vbg




Higgy, I consider hearing aids a racket. I understand they work - mostly -

but I am very wary of the salespeople. Big bux aren't they?


HUGE! I'm fortunate to have insurance that mostly covers them, but can only get new ones every 3 years, and the technology doesn't seem to progress much.

Your statement about "racket" is too general for my scientific mind g.
Maybe you're thinking of those TV ads? Good heavens, no, no, no.

Anyone who needs hearing corrected should go to an audiologist for a thorough workup. If audiologist finds special problems, he/she might refer you to an MD specializing in hearing problems. If not, they can suggest the appropriate aid.

Like any medical/dental need, the best way to locate a provider is to ask, ask, ask among your friends, colleagues, family. And listen CAREFULLY how they describe the provider. Reason I caution that: Some people are just too apathetic or scared to change doctors even when it's clearly indicated. I have them in my family!

Good luck!

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HUGE! I'm fortunate to have insurance that mostly covers them, but can only get new ones every 3 years, and the technology doesn't seem to progress much.

Your statement about "racket" is too general for my scientific mind g.
Maybe you're thinking of those TV ads? Good heavens, no, no, no.

Anyone who needs hearing corrected should go to an audiologist for a thorough workup. If audiologist finds special problems, he/she might refer you to an MD specializing in hearing problems. If not, they can suggest the appropriate aid.

Like any medical/dental need, the best way to locate a provider is to ask, ask, ask among your friends, colleagues, family. And listen CAREFULLY how they describe the provider. Reason I caution that: Some people are just too apathetic or scared to change doctors even when it's clearly indicated. I have them in my family!

Good luck!

HB


Not that it matters, I am just curious, are you male or female? It's just
the fact I have never encountered a person named Higgs. I main no disrespect
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And I know how to SNIP


HUGE! I'm fortunate to have insurance that mostly covers them, but can only get new ones every 3 years, and the technology doesn't seem to progress much.




Your statement about "racket" is too general for my scientific mind g..


Maybe you're thinking of those TV ads? Good heavens, no, no, no.




Anyone who needs hearing corrected should go to an audiologist for a thorough workup. If audiologist finds special problems, he/she might refer you to an MD specializing in hearing problems. If not, they can suggest the appropriate aid.




Like any medical/dental need, the best way to locate a provider is to ask, ask, ask among your friends, colleagues, family. And listen CAREFULLY how they describe the provider. Reason I caution that: Some people are just too apathetic or scared to change doctors even when it's clearly indicated. I have them in my family!




Good luck!




HB




Not that it matters, I am just curious, are you male or female? It's just

the fact I have never encountered a person named Higgs. I main no disrespect

and if I have offended you my apologies.


Not at all.

"Higgs Boson" is the elusive sub-atomic particle that was finally said to have been identified by CERN.

As a hard-core science freak, I thought it would be cool to use Higgs Boson as one of my Internet handles. Here's info about the Higgs Boson.

http://www.exploratorium.edu/origins...eas/higgs.html

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Not that it matters, I am just curious, are you male or female? It's just

the fact I have never encountered a person named Higgs. I main no disrespect

and if I have offended you my apologies.


Not at all.

"Higgs Boson" is the elusive sub-atomic particle that was finally said to have been identified by CERN.

As a hard-core science freak, I thought it would be cool to use Higgs Boson as one of my Internet handles. Here's info about the Higgs Boson.

http://www.exploratorium.edu/origins...eas/higgs.html

HB


I guess it's either neuter, or transgender,
or hermaphrodite?


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Not that it matters, I am just curious, are you male or female? It's just
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On USENET your name can be anything you want
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The Higgs boson or Higgs particle is an elementary particle initially
theorised in 1964,[2][6] whose discovery was announced at CERN on 4 July
2012.[7] The discovery has been called "monumental"[8][9] because it
appears to confirm the existence of the Higgs field,[10][11] which is
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