I am getting yet another one of these. Personally I am fine with the cheap
plastic or wood ones. I have seen a wood one break. Wasn't mine and I
can't remember now where it was. A piece actually cracked off. Can't say
that I've had a plastic one break. But the others who live here love the
soft ones. The problem I have is that they split at the seams or just get
weird slits in them. I was like... What are you two doing? Sitting down
with a knife or something?

I ordered this one as it seemed to get mostly good reviews:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I think I have bought all of the various ones that I can find in the brick
and mortar stores. And they all suck. Has anyone bought one that they had
good luck with? I'd like it to last longer than a year.

On Fri, 30 May 2014 22:58:07 -0700, "Julie Bove"
wrote:

I am getting yet another one of these. Personally I am fine with the cheap
plastic or wood ones. I have seen a wood one break.

I think the very cheapest seats, the kind used in gas station washrooms
in the 1950's, are wood. There are also good wood ones.

Wasn't mine and I
can't remember now where it was. A piece actually cracked off. Can't say
that I've had a plastic one break.

I have, and it was a color that matched my bathroom, that I could only
get at one hardware store in New Jersey, 180 miles away. However, it
likely was because of my excess weight, and even if it wasnt' that, I
would still buy another plastic seat. Over all I think they are the
best.

I don't have one because a friend gave me a new actual wood oak seat.
The big trouble with that is that the brass hardware turns green. I
think maybe some wood ones have plastic hardware.

But the others who live here love the
soft ones. The problem I have is that they split at the seams or just get
weird slits in them. I was like... What are you two doing? Sitting down
with a knife or something?

You never know. Did any of your family serve much time in prison?
They may have smuggled in weapons that way.

I don't like the padded ones. God gave me my own padding. Even when I
was thin, I had more than enough.

I ordered this one as it seemed to get mostly good reviews:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I think I have bought all of the various ones that I can find in the brick
and mortar stores. And they all suck. Has anyone bought one that they had
good luck with? I'd like it to last longer than a year.

Wow. I had no idea they could wear out so fast. Of course I'm the
only one who lives here. But other than that plastic one that broke,
all the others (not padded) last 20 or 30 years.

On Sat, 31 May 2014 10:24:30 -0400, micky
wrote:


I don't like the padded ones. God gave me my own padding. Even when I
was thin, I had more than enough.

BTW, I know not absolutely everyone has enough padding. I knew a girl
once, didn't seem skinny, but when I squeezed her bottom, I could feel
her pelvis. It was scary. In my case, even when I was thin, there
was no evidence I had bones in there. Maybe some thick fat or floppy
cartilage or special bottom material, but no bones.

On 5/31/2014 1:58 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
I am getting yet another one of these. Personally I am fine with the
cheap plastic or wood ones. I have seen a wood one break. Wasn't mine
and I can't remember now where it was. A piece actually cracked off.
Can't say that I've had a plastic one break. But the others who live
here love the soft ones. The problem I have is that they split at the
seams or just get weird slits in them. I was like... What are you two
doing? Sitting down with a knife or something?

I ordered this one as it seemed to get mostly good reviews:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...?ie=UTF8&psc=1


Get a good seat like a Church and it will last you 30 years or so.

Get a Kohler soft close and it will be comfortable and last a long time.
I like the way you can just tap it and it drops slowly and noise free.
Look for a Kohler Q3 seat

If you want the best and easiest, get a comfort height toilet with
elongated bowl.

On 5/31/2014 10:24 AM, micky wrote:
On Fri, 30 May 2014 22:58:07 -0700, "Julie Bove"
wrote:

I am getting yet another one of these. Personally I am fine with the cheap
plastic or wood ones. I have seen a wood one break.

I think the very cheapest seats, the kind used in gas station washrooms
in the 1950's, are wood. There are also good wood ones.

Wasn't mine and I
can't remember now where it was. A piece actually cracked off. Can't say
that I've had a plastic one break.

I have, and it was a color that matched my bathroom, that I could only
get at one hardware store in New Jersey, 180 miles away. However, it
likely was because of my excess weight, and even if it wasnt' that, I
would still buy another plastic seat. Over all I think they are the
best.

I don't have one because a friend gave me a new actual wood oak seat.
The big trouble with that is that the brass hardware turns green. I
think maybe some wood ones have plastic hardware.

But the others who live here love the
soft ones. The problem I have is that they split at the seams or just get
weird slits in them. I was like... What are you two doing? Sitting down
with a knife or something?

You never know. Did any of your family serve much time in prison?
They may have smuggled in weapons that way.

I don't like the padded ones. God gave me my own padding. Even when I
was thin, I had more than enough.

I ordered this one as it seemed to get mostly good reviews:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I think I have bought all of the various ones that I can find in the brick
and mortar stores. And they all suck. Has anyone bought one that they had
good luck with? I'd like it to last longer than a year.

Wow. I had no idea they could wear out so fast. Of course I'm the
only one who lives here. But other than that plastic one that broke,
all the others (not padded) last 20 or 30 years.

Years ago, a family friend had a padded toilet seat. I can remember my
mother talking about how it split, and the split was positioned such
that it pinched people when they sat on it (or went to get up maybe). I
can't remember the whole story, but the discussion made enough of an
impression on me that to this day I can't bring myself to buy a padded
seat, LOL. The owners apparently liked the padded seats though, because
they always had one when we visited, and I remember seeing strips of
plastic tape on them, which I assume covered recurring slits.

On 2014-05-31, Julie Bove wrote:

I think I have bought all of the various ones that I can find in the brick
and mortar stores. And they all suck. Has anyone bought one that they had
good luck with? I'd like it to last longer than a year.

Quit half-stepping and buy a Bemis!

http://www.bemisseats.com/

I noticed this was the brand on the toity in our new hospital.
Comfortable, contoured, solid, simple. I did some research and bought
one off Amazon. It was still about $50, non-padded, but worth ever
cent. This after caring for my Alzheimer mom for about 5 yrs and
replacing her preferred cheapo padded toilet seats about once per
year. Broken hinges, torn padding, iffy anchors, etc. They were all
junk. I finally hadda put my mom in a home, but splurged on a Bemis
commercial grade toilet seat. Sucker will probably outlast me, Mom,
the toity, and the house.

nb

"Julie Bove" writes:

I am getting yet another one of these. Personally I am fine with the
cheap plastic or wood ones. I have seen a wood one break. Wasn't
mine and I can't remember now where it was. A piece actually cracked
off. Can't say that I've had a plastic one break. But the others who
live here love the soft ones. The problem I have is that they split
at the seams or just get weird slits in them. I was like... What are
you two doing? Sitting down with a knife or something?

I ordered this one as it seemed to get mostly good reviews:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I think I have bought all of the various ones that I can find in the
brick and mortar stores. And they all suck. Has anyone bought one
that they had good luck with? I'd like it to last longer than a
year.

I've had the same bad experience with wood.
They look great but they can't take the flexing from
being sat on, and soon they split.

The soft ones with a vinyl cover and padding are indeed
comfortable, but split.

My favorites are the self closing ones.
They seem to last and not having to let the lid
down easy is a luxury. Now when I use a toilet
without the easy close you're going to hear the
seat crash down. Hard habit to break.

--
Dan Espen

On Sat, 31 May 2014 12:18:17 -0400, (Dan.Espen)
wrote:

"Julie Bove" writes:

I am getting yet another one of these. Personally I am fine with the
cheap plastic or wood ones. I have seen a wood one break. Wasn't
mine and I can't remember now where it was. A piece actually cracked
off. Can't say that I've had a plastic one break. But the others who
live here love the soft ones. The problem I have is that they split
at the seams or just get weird slits in them. I was like... What are
you two doing? Sitting down with a knife or something?

I ordered this one as it seemed to get mostly good reviews:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I think I have bought all of the various ones that I can find in the
brick and mortar stores. And they all suck. Has anyone bought one
that they had good luck with? I'd like it to last longer than a
year.

I've had the same bad experience with wood.
They look great but they can't take the flexing from
being sat on, and soon they split.

Maybe the good ones have 4 bumpers holding up the wood, but maybe there
are poor ones with only two bumpers. I think I remember 40 years ago
there were such seats. Maybe there still are.

The soft ones with a vinyl cover and padding are indeed
comfortable, but split.

My favorites are the self closing ones.
They seem to last and not having to let the lid
down easy is a luxury. Now when I use a toilet
without the easy close you're going to hear the
seat crash down. Hard habit to break.

micky writes:

On Sat, 31 May 2014 12:18:17 -0400, (Dan.Espen)
wrote:

"Julie Bove" writes:

I am getting yet another one of these. Personally I am fine with the
cheap plastic or wood ones. I have seen a wood one break. Wasn't
mine and I can't remember now where it was. A piece actually cracked
off. Can't say that I've had a plastic one break. But the others who
live here love the soft ones. The problem I have is that they split
at the seams or just get weird slits in them. I was like... What are
you two doing? Sitting down with a knife or something?

I ordered this one as it seemed to get mostly good reviews:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I think I have bought all of the various ones that I can find in the
brick and mortar stores. And they all suck. Has anyone bought one
that they had good luck with? I'd like it to last longer than a
year.

I've had the same bad experience with wood.
They look great but they can't take the flexing from
being sat on, and soon they split.

Maybe the good ones have 4 bumpers holding up the wood, but maybe there
are poor ones with only two bumpers. I think I remember 40 years ago
there were such seats. Maybe there still are.

Well, I think someone could make some bucks coming up with a
wooden seat that lasts more than a year or 2. Maybe that simulated
wood they make floors out of...

I think a solid piece of wood is just prone to split cut to that
shape, no matter how many bumpers it has. More bumpers would
help, but the grain is a weak point.

--
Dan Espen

On Sat, 31 May 2014 15:34:01 -0400, (Dan.Espen)
wrote:

micky writes:

On Sat, 31 May 2014 12:18:17 -0400, (Dan.Espen)
wrote:

"Julie Bove" writes:

I am getting yet another one of these. Personally I am fine with the
cheap plastic or wood ones. I have seen a wood one break. Wasn't
mine and I can't remember now where it was. A piece actually cracked
off. Can't say that I've had a plastic one break. But the others who
live here love the soft ones. The problem I have is that they split
at the seams or just get weird slits in them. I was like... What are
you two doing? Sitting down with a knife or something?

I ordered this one as it seemed to get mostly good reviews:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I think I have bought all of the various ones that I can find in the
brick and mortar stores. And they all suck. Has anyone bought one
that they had good luck with? I'd like it to last longer than a
year.

I've had the same bad experience with wood.
They look great but they can't take the flexing from
being sat on, and soon they split.

Maybe the good ones have 4 bumpers holding up the wood, but maybe there
are poor ones with only two bumpers.

Because there is much more strain on the wood with only front bumpers.
Almost all of one's weight is behind the front bumpers and will be right
above the rear bumpers if they exist. If they're not, sitting down
would be like jumping on a trampoline.

I think I remember 40 years ago
there were such seats. Maybe there still are.

Well, I think someone could make some bucks coming up with a
wooden seat that lasts more than a year or 2. Maybe that simulated
wood they make floors out of...

Well the wood one my friend gave me new with brass hardware, I've been
using for 5 or 6 years now and I expect it to last much longer. It's
oak, and not painted, just (maybe stained) and varnished or polyu'd.
(I'd rather have had plastic hinges. They don't turn green.)

Plus I think I have a cheap wood one in the powder room I don't use much
but that one might be 35 years old. That's when the house was built.
It's an Elger toilet. For new construction do the toilets come with
seats? I'll try to find more clues what it's made of.

I think a solid piece of wood is just prone to split cut to that
shape, no matter how many bumpers it has. More bumpers would
help, but the grain is a weak point.

Some woods are better than others. Oak is strong I weigh a disgusting
274 now, and neither seat has shown signs of breaking.

The plastic one cracked months before it broke. I was lighter then,
myabe 220. I'm not sure if my weight broke it or not. I'm guessing to
some extent it did, in that if I weighed 100 it wouldn't have broken.

"micky" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 30 May 2014 22:58:07 -0700, "Julie Bove"
wrote:

I am getting yet another one of these. Personally I am fine with the
cheap
plastic or wood ones. I have seen a wood one break.

I think the very cheapest seats, the kind used in gas station washrooms
in the 1950's, are wood. There are also good wood ones.

Yes. I remember when I worked in a store that sold toilet seats, we had
some customers that wanted the oak ones. The kind that actually looked like
wood. No paint.

Wasn't mine and I
can't remember now where it was. A piece actually cracked off. Can't say
that I've had a plastic one break.

I have, and it was a color that matched my bathroom, that I could only
get at one hardware store in New Jersey, 180 miles away. However, it
likely was because of my excess weight, and even if it wasnt' that, I
would still buy another plastic seat. Over all I think they are the
best.

Ah... My parents must have had broken ones too. They had avocado green in
their bathroom before it was remodeled and I remember them having an odd,
beige seat with a shell shaped seat on it for a time. I have had those
connector thingies at the back break. Particularly the caps on them. But
never the seat itself.

I don't have one because a friend gave me a new actual wood oak seat.
The big trouble with that is that the brass hardware turns green. I
think maybe some wood ones have plastic hardware.

I used to have a brass headboard. It was fine for many years but then
whatever coating it had on it had worn off. I was likely cleaning it with
the wrong thing. It turned green in spots.

But the others who live here love the
soft ones. The problem I have is that they split at the seams or just get
weird slits in them. I was like... What are you two doing? Sitting down
with a knife or something?

You never know. Did any of your family serve much time in prison?
They may have smuggled in weapons that way.

Heh. Not my immediate family, no. But I am related to John Wilkes Booth.
Not something I am proud of. Also related to Benjamin Franklin and Johnny
Appleseed so perhaps they cancel him out?

I don't like the padded ones. God gave me my own padding. Even when I
was thin, I had more than enough.

I have no padding. Not on my seat anyway. I am overweight but I have never
had a butt. So while those seats feel good until they crack or unless they
have a seam in a weird spot, I would still prefer the regular kind.
Exception might have been during my colonoscopy prep but... Don't have to
have another one for 10 years.

I ordered this one as it seemed to get mostly good reviews:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I think I have bought all of the various ones that I can find in the brick
and mortar stores. And they all suck. Has anyone bought one that they
had
good luck with? I'd like it to last longer than a year.

Wow. I had no idea they could wear out so fast. Of course I'm the
only one who lives here. But other than that plastic one that broke,
all the others (not padded) last 20 or 30 years.

Well, this one is in my husband's bathroom and he can wear anything out
quickly. Not sure why. The other seats that I got him were cheaper ones as
that was all I could find in the stores here.

"micky" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 31 May 2014 10:24:30 -0400, micky
wrote:


I don't like the padded ones. God gave me my own padding. Even when I
was thin, I had more than enough.

BTW, I know not absolutely everyone has enough padding. I knew a girl
once, didn't seem skinny, but when I squeezed her bottom, I could feel
her pelvis. It was scary. In my case, even when I was thin, there
was no evidence I had bones in there. Maybe some thick fat or floppy
cartilage or special bottom material, but no bones.

I am old. My daughter took a picture of my behind in my undies. It was
like the saggy baggy elephant only it was skin that was sagging. Wasn't
pretty. But I have never had a butt. Hard for me to find underwear that
fits. Thick waist, no hips, no butt. I have actually had underwear that
flapped around me like butterfly wings. That wasn't pretty either.

"Lee B" wrote in message
...

Years ago, a family friend had a padded toilet seat. I can remember my
mother talking about how it split, and the split was positioned such that
it pinched people when they sat on it (or went to get up maybe). I can't
remember the whole story, but the discussion made enough of an impression
on me that to this day I can't bring myself to buy a padded seat, LOL. The
owners apparently liked the padded seats though, because they always had
one when we visited, and I remember seeing strips of plastic tape on them,
which I assume covered recurring slits.

That's exactly what they do. And then they have exposed foam which I would
assume would get nastily germy.

"Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message
...
On 5/31/2014 1:58 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
I am getting yet another one of these. Personally I am fine with the
cheap plastic or wood ones. I have seen a wood one break. Wasn't mine
and I can't remember now where it was. A piece actually cracked off.
Can't say that I've had a plastic one break. But the others who live
here love the soft ones. The problem I have is that they split at the
seams or just get weird slits in them. I was like... What are you two
doing? Sitting down with a knife or something?

I ordered this one as it seemed to get mostly good reviews:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...?ie=UTF8&psc=1


Get a good seat like a Church and it will last you 30 years or so.

Get a Kohler soft close and it will be comfortable and last a long time. I
like the way you can just tap it and it drops slowly and noise free. Look
for a Kohler Q3 seat

If you want the best and easiest, get a comfort height toilet with
elongated bowl.

Hate the comfort height. My parents had one. I had trouble getting off of
it. And husband has a 24" inseam. So that wouldn't work for him, methinks.
But I will look for those brands. We currently have pretty cheap toilets
but they work. Can only use one ply paper. His would flush anything for a
while but now it clogs like mine does if we use 2 ply. That's probably some
sort of deeper issue. But for the time being, we have two good plungers and
we buy 1 ply by the case.

Perhaps one day we will redo the bathrooms. I would sure like to get rid of
my giant, jetted tub and replace it with some kind of small soaking tub
which we would likely still never use except for doing hand wash. And I
would like to get rid of that idiotic wedge shaped piece of wall to wall
carpet in there and get a better looking floor. And get rid of the hideous
wallpaper and the gold mirrors on part of three of the walls. Heck, I'd
even like to get rid of that second sink! The people who did this remodel
were Filipino and must have been tiny. That second sink is placed so close
to the free standing shower stall that you can't fully open the doors
underneath it. We don't have enough linen storage. So I'd rather rip that
puppy out and put in some sort of linen closet there or at least shelves.
Would love to have one of those somewhat new bowl sinks. The ones that sit
up off of the counter. Ah, dream on.

Husband's bathroom is functional but 80's. So he is probably due for an
upgrade.

We're currently getting a new roof and then we'll need to have the exterior
painted. Have done so many other repairs in the almost 10 years since we
moved it, it's incredible! And that's not really upgrading much of anything
except for the storm door.

This is why I like to rent! Sure you don't get a lot of options but you
also don't have to fix anything. And unless I win the lottery or something,
I'll never have my dream home. I just have to keep the one I have from
falling apart.

"notbob" wrote in message
...
On 2014-05-31, Julie Bove wrote:

I think I have bought all of the various ones that I can find in the
brick
and mortar stores. And they all suck. Has anyone bought one that they
had
good luck with? I'd like it to last longer than a year.

Quit half-stepping and buy a Bemis!

http://www.bemisseats.com/

I noticed this was the brand on the toity in our new hospital.
Comfortable, contoured, solid, simple. I did some research and bought
one off Amazon. It was still about $50, non-padded, but worth ever
cent. This after caring for my Alzheimer mom for about 5 yrs and
replacing her preferred cheapo padded toilet seats about once per
year. Broken hinges, torn padding, iffy anchors, etc. They were all
junk. I finally hadda put my mom in a home, but splurged on a Bemis
commercial grade toilet seat. Sucker will probably outlast me, Mom,
the toity, and the house.

nb

Holy crap! They even have avocado. Not soft though. Need soft.

"Dan.Espen" wrote in message
...
"Julie Bove" writes:

I am getting yet another one of these. Personally I am fine with the
cheap plastic or wood ones. I have seen a wood one break. Wasn't
mine and I can't remember now where it was. A piece actually cracked
off. Can't say that I've had a plastic one break. But the others who
live here love the soft ones. The problem I have is that they split
at the seams or just get weird slits in them. I was like... What are
you two doing? Sitting down with a knife or something?

I ordered this one as it seemed to get mostly good reviews:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I think I have bought all of the various ones that I can find in the
brick and mortar stores. And they all suck. Has anyone bought one
that they had good luck with? I'd like it to last longer than a
year.

I've had the same bad experience with wood.
They look great but they can't take the flexing from
being sat on, and soon they split.

The soft ones with a vinyl cover and padding are indeed
comfortable, but split.

My favorites are the self closing ones.
They seem to last and not having to let the lid
down easy is a luxury. Now when I use a toilet
without the easy close you're going to hear the
seat crash down. Hard habit to break.

I don't think I've ever used a self closing. I did see them online though.

"micky" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 31 May 2014 15:34:01 -0400, (Dan.Espen)
wrote:

micky writes:

On Sat, 31 May 2014 12:18:17 -0400, (Dan.Espen)
wrote:

"Julie Bove" writes:

I am getting yet another one of these. Personally I am fine with the
cheap plastic or wood ones. I have seen a wood one break. Wasn't
mine and I can't remember now where it was. A piece actually cracked
off. Can't say that I've had a plastic one break. But the others who
live here love the soft ones. The problem I have is that they split
at the seams or just get weird slits in them. I was like... What are
you two doing? Sitting down with a knife or something?

I ordered this one as it seemed to get mostly good reviews:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I think I have bought all of the various ones that I can find in the
brick and mortar stores. And they all suck. Has anyone bought one
that they had good luck with? I'd like it to last longer than a
year.

I've had the same bad experience with wood.
They look great but they can't take the flexing from
being sat on, and soon they split.

Maybe the good ones have 4 bumpers holding up the wood, but maybe there
are poor ones with only two bumpers.

Because there is much more strain on the wood with only front bumpers.
Almost all of one's weight is behind the front bumpers and will be right
above the rear bumpers if they exist. If they're not, sitting down
would be like jumping on a trampoline.

I think I remember 40 years ago
there were such seats. Maybe there still are.

Well, I think someone could make some bucks coming up with a
wooden seat that lasts more than a year or 2. Maybe that simulated
wood they make floors out of...

Well the wood one my friend gave me new with brass hardware, I've been
using for 5 or 6 years now and I expect it to last much longer. It's
oak, and not painted, just (maybe stained) and varnished or polyu'd.
(I'd rather have had plastic hinges. They don't turn green.)

Plus I think I have a cheap wood one in the powder room I don't use much
but that one might be 35 years old. That's when the house was built.
It's an Elger toilet. For new construction do the toilets come with
seats? I'll try to find more clues what it's made of.

I think a solid piece of wood is just prone to split cut to that
shape, no matter how many bumpers it has. More bumpers would
help, but the grain is a weak point.

Some woods are better than others. Oak is strong I weigh a disgusting
274 now, and neither seat has shown signs of breaking.

The plastic one cracked months before it broke. I was lighter then,
myabe 220. I'm not sure if my weight broke it or not. I'm guessing to
some extent it did, in that if I weighed 100 it wouldn't have broken.

When I sold toilet seats, we did have complaints of our oak ones. Some
people said they splintered.

The seats that we had when we first bought the house were plastic, thin and
flexible. Now that I think about it, the reason why I bought the padded
seat to begin with was that husband's had something wrong with it. Can't
remember what.

I have a cheap plastic one on mine now which I may well replace soon. The
one bolt on the left side keeps getting loose. I had a kitten who was
always removing nuts. She took them off of my towel rack and also an
earring rack in my bedroom. It was a commercial style that I needed when I
was selling jewelry at a craft show. I blamed her for the loose nut. But
she's gone now and that nut still keeps getting loose. Also the right one
has started getting loose. So I keep a screwdriver in there.

Why can't someone come up with some way to attach the seat that actually
works? The one I got for husband's bathroom prior to this one had the same
seat as another made by that company but it had some sort of different
attachment thingies that were purported to be easy to take on and off. Ha!
I can't remember now all of the hoops I had to jump through to get it on and
off but it was harder to do than a simple bolt and nut.

On 6/1/2014 4:29 AM, Julie Bove wrote:


Get a Kohler soft close and it will be comfortable and last a long
time. I like the way you can just tap it and it drops slowly and noise
free. Look for a Kohler Q3 seat

If you want the best and easiest, get a comfort height toilet with
elongated bowl.

Hate the comfort height. My parents had one. I had trouble getting off
of it. And husband has a 24" inseam. So that wouldn't work for him,
methinks.

Being short, it may not be the best option, but the elongated bowl is
still better.




But I will look for those brands. We currently have pretty
cheap toilets but they work. Can only use one ply paper. His would
flush anything for a while but now it clogs like mine does if we use 2
ply. That's probably some sort of deeper issue. But for the time
being, we have two good plungers and we buy 1 ply by the case.

Unless it is a sewer issue, it can just be the fact tht old toilets do
show age. The holes around the rim can be getting clogged on the
inside, the trap has buildup, etc. Most new toilets can easily move a
lot of solids in a couple of seconds with little water. Expect to pay
$400 or so.


Perhaps one day we will redo the bathrooms. I would sure like to get
rid of my giant, jetted tub and replace it with some kind of small
soaking tub which we would likely still never use except for doing hand
wash. And I would like to get rid of that idiotic wedge shaped piece of
wall to wall carpet in there and get a better looking floor.


Carpet like that does not belong in a bathroom. No way to properly
clean it. Sheet goods or tile with a throw rug is the way to go.

I got rid of the tub altogether. We now have a 32 x 60 shower with
glass door, two spray heads, grab bars and is all tile. The bathrooms
has tile on the rest of the walls about 50" high. Jut finished the
upstairs and now starting the downstairs. Cost for a first rate remodel
was $12k. You can spend more though.


Would love to have one of those
somewhat new bowl sinks. The ones that sit up off of the counter. Ah,
dream on.

They look nice, but do not seem practical. We have a one piece vanity
top and it is easy to clean. Any water splashed is easily directed to
the sink.
http://www.theswancorp.com/index.php?prod=496




This is why I like to rent! Sure you don't get a lot of options but
you also don't have to fix anything. And unless I win the lottery or
something, I'll never have my dream home. I just have to keep the one I
have from falling apart.

I've never rented. Bought my first house when I was 20 and single, got
married a few months later. If you rent, you still pay for repairs as
part of the rent, but have no choice in anything. My house is the way I
want it and all good quality fixtures and appliances. The house is paid
for so I'm living cheaper with only taxes and insurance. Makes
retirement easier when I finally decide to.

On 6/1/2014 4:38 AM, Julie Bove wrote:



Why can't someone come up with some way to attach the seat that actually
works?

They have
http://www.us.kohler.com/us/Bathroom...473/429204.htm
Look for the videos of how they attach and close.

On 2014-06-01, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

They have
http://www.us.kohler.com/us/Bathroom...473/429204.htm
Look for the videos of how they attach and close.

Bemis uses nylon nut/bolt anchors, but they work. The nuts are two
part. You tighten the lower part with a wrench and when the nuts are
properly torqued, the lower nut breaks free from the upper nut. They
gar-own-tee the nuts will never work loose. So far, I'm convinced.

nb

"Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message
...
On 6/1/2014 4:29 AM, Julie Bove wrote:


Get a Kohler soft close and it will be comfortable and last a long
time. I like the way you can just tap it and it drops slowly and noise
free. Look for a Kohler Q3 seat

If you want the best and easiest, get a comfort height toilet with
elongated bowl.

Hate the comfort height. My parents had one. I had trouble getting off
of it. And husband has a 24" inseam. So that wouldn't work for him,
methinks.

Being short, it may not be the best option, but the elongated bowl is
still better.




But I will look for those brands. We currently have pretty
cheap toilets but they work. Can only use one ply paper. His would
flush anything for a while but now it clogs like mine does if we use 2
ply. That's probably some sort of deeper issue. But for the time
being, we have two good plungers and we buy 1 ply by the case.

Unless it is a sewer issue, it can just be the fact tht old toilets do
show age. The holes around the rim can be getting clogged on the inside,
the trap has buildup, etc. Most new toilets can easily move a lot of
solids in a couple of seconds with little water. Expect to pay $400 or
so.

They're relatively new. His is perhaps 3 years old and mine 2 years old, if
that. I paid around $250 including the installation.


Perhaps one day we will redo the bathrooms. I would sure like to get
rid of my giant, jetted tub and replace it with some kind of small
soaking tub which we would likely still never use except for doing hand
wash. And I would like to get rid of that idiotic wedge shaped piece of
wall to wall carpet in there and get a better looking floor.


Carpet like that does not belong in a bathroom. No way to properly clean
it. Sheet goods or tile with a throw rug is the way to go.

Exactly I have bath rugs over it.

I got rid of the tub altogether. We now have a 32 x 60 shower with glass
door, two spray heads, grab bars and is all tile. The bathrooms has tile
on the rest of the walls about 50" high. Jut finished the upstairs and
now starting the downstairs. Cost for a first rate remodel was $12k. You
can spend more though.


Would love to have one of those
somewhat new bowl sinks. The ones that sit up off of the counter. Ah,
dream on.

They look nice, but do not seem practical. We have a one piece vanity top
and it is easy to clean. Any water splashed is easily directed to the
sink.
http://www.theswancorp.com/index.php?prod=496

They seem practical to me because I am forever splashing where I don't want
to.




This is why I like to rent! Sure you don't get a lot of options but
you also don't have to fix anything. And unless I win the lottery or
something, I'll never have my dream home. I just have to keep the one I
have from falling apart.

I've never rented. Bought my first house when I was 20 and single, got
married a few months later. If you rent, you still pay for repairs as
part of the rent, but have no choice in anything. My house is the way I
want it and all good quality fixtures and appliances. The house is paid
for so I'm living cheaper with only taxes and insurance. Makes retirement
easier when I finally decide to.

Yes, you do but all you have to do is call the landlord. And if you have a
good one, he or she will take care of it.

My house isn't the way I want it and likely won't be. We bought when I was
in my 40's and refinanced last year. I'll be 55 soon. Will likely never
had it paid off and until recently struggled to keep up with the repairs.

"Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message
...
On 6/1/2014 4:38 AM, Julie Bove wrote:



Why can't someone come up with some way to attach the seat that actually
works?

They have
http://www.us.kohler.com/us/Bathroom...473/429204.htm
Look for the videos of how they attach and close.

Hmmm... Closing is not a problem. Neither is attaching them. It's getting
them to stay attached that's the problem. But thanks!

"notbob" wrote in message
...
On 2014-06-01, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

They have
http://www.us.kohler.com/us/Bathroom...473/429204.htm
Look for the videos of how they attach and close.

Bemis uses nylon nut/bolt anchors, but they work. The nuts are two
part. You tighten the lower part with a wrench and when the nuts are
properly torqued, the lower nut breaks free from the upper nut. They
gar-own-tee the nuts will never work loose. So far, I'm convinced.

And you never have to remove the seat?

On Sun, 1 Jun 2014 23:15:15 -0700, "Julie Bove"
wrote:




This is why I like to rent! Sure you don't get a lot of options but
you also don't have to fix anything. And unless I win the lottery or
something, I'll never have my dream home. I just have to keep the one I
have from falling apart.

I've never rented. Bought my first house when I was 20 and single, got
married a few months later. If you rent, you still pay for repairs as
part of the rent, but have no choice in anything. My house is the way I
want it and all good quality fixtures and appliances. The house is paid
for so I'm living cheaper with only taxes and insurance. Makes retirement
easier when I finally decide to.

Yes, you do but all you have to do is call the landlord. And if you have a
good one, he or she will take care of it.

I know plenty of landlords and people that rant. In my bathroom, we
wanted Kohler faucets, brushed nickel. They are smooth operating and
should last a lifetime. At the plumbing supply they were $253.

We were at Lowe's last week and they had a faucet set for $69. They
felt like crap when you turned the handle. Guess which one a landlord
would buy?

On Sun, 1 Jun 2014 23:40:33 -0700, "Julie Bove"
wrote:


"notbob" wrote in message
...
On 2014-06-01, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

They have
http://www.us.kohler.com/us/Bathroom...473/429204.htm
Look for the videos of how they attach and close.

Bemis uses nylon nut/bolt anchors, but they work. The nuts are two
part. You tighten the lower part with a wrench and when the nuts are
properly torqued, the lower nut breaks free from the upper nut. They
gar-own-tee the nuts will never work loose. So far, I'm convinced.

And you never have to remove the seat?

I thought about that too. What happens the second time you want to
tighten them? Is the upper nut hex sided?

BTW, I just had to stand on the toilet seat in the powder room, in order
to put the louver back on the bathroom fan.

All 270 pounds of me and I didn't hear any cracking noises. Sometimes
I stood in the middle on one leg, which gives a lot of leverage since
the bumpers are near the edges, but so far so good.

P.S. I took off the louver to look at the fan motor. That's just the
sort of fan motor I need to replace the motor in my table fan that
caught fire last summer, but it's one size too big. That size, like a
Broan BP27, is used all over the place but I can't find one size
smaller.

"Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 1 Jun 2014 23:15:15 -0700, "Julie Bove"
wrote:




This is why I like to rent! Sure you don't get a lot of options
but
you also don't have to fix anything. And unless I win the lottery or
something, I'll never have my dream home. I just have to keep the one
I
have from falling apart.

I've never rented. Bought my first house when I was 20 and single, got
married a few months later. If you rent, you still pay for repairs as
part of the rent, but have no choice in anything. My house is the way I
want it and all good quality fixtures and appliances. The house is paid
for so I'm living cheaper with only taxes and insurance. Makes
retirement
easier when I finally decide to.

Yes, you do but all you have to do is call the landlord. And if you have
a
good one, he or she will take care of it.

I know plenty of landlords and people that rant. In my bathroom, we
wanted Kohler faucets, brushed nickel. They are smooth operating and
should last a lifetime. At the plumbing supply they were $253.

We were at Lowe's last week and they had a faucet set for $69. They
felt like crap when you turned the handle. Guess which one a landlord
would buy?

But I'm not rich and that's the kind I have. I did look up all of the
fixtures in this house. Lowes sells them and they were the cheapest.

Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On Sun, 1 Jun 2014 23:15:15 -0700, "Julie Bove"
wrote:




This is why I like to rent! Sure you don't get a lot of options but
you also don't have to fix anything. And unless I win the lottery or
something, I'll never have my dream home. I just have to keep the one I
have from falling apart.

I've never rented. Bought my first house when I was 20 and single, got
married a few months later. If you rent, you still pay for repairs as
part of the rent, but have no choice in anything. My house is the way I
want it and all good quality fixtures and appliances. The house is paid
for so I'm living cheaper with only taxes and insurance. Makes retirement
easier when I finally decide to.

Yes, you do but all you have to do is call the landlord. And if you have a
good one, he or she will take care of it.

I know plenty of landlords and people that rant. In my bathroom, we
wanted Kohler faucets, brushed nickel. They are smooth operating and
should last a lifetime. At the plumbing supply they were $253.

We were at Lowe's last week and they had a faucet set for $69. They
felt like crap when you turned the handle. Guess which one a landlord
would buy?

Hi,
Smart landlord will buy the good one, El Cheapo, Scrooge land lord will
buy that crap.

On Tue, 03 Jun 2014 08:23:58 -0600, Tony Hwang
wrote:

Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On Sun, 1 Jun 2014 23:15:15 -0700, "Julie Bove"
wrote:




This is why I like to rent! Sure you don't get a lot of options but
you also don't have to fix anything. And unless I win the lottery or
something, I'll never have my dream home. I just have to keep the one I
have from falling apart.

I've never rented. Bought my first house when I was 20 and single, got
married a few months later. If you rent, you still pay for repairs as
part of the rent, but have no choice in anything. My house is the way I
want it and all good quality fixtures and appliances. The house is paid
for so I'm living cheaper with only taxes and insurance. Makes retirement
easier when I finally decide to.

Yes, you do but all you have to do is call the landlord. And if you have a
good one, he or she will take care of it.

I know plenty of landlords and people that rant. In my bathroom, we
wanted Kohler faucets, brushed nickel. They are smooth operating and
should last a lifetime. At the plumbing supply they were $253.

We were at Lowe's last week and they had a faucet set for $69. They
felt like crap when you turned the handle. Guess which one a landlord
would buy?

Hi,
Smart landlord will buy the good one, El Cheapo, Scrooge land lord will
buy that crap.

I always use cheap faucets. As long as they're metal.
Simple mechanisms.
Never have trouble with them. Only buy 2-handle lever type.
Except for the laundry tub, which are knob type.
My wife has the say on "style." She's always found one she likes dirt
cheap. $69 is high end.
YMMV.

micky posted for all of us...

And I know how to SNIP

when I squeezed her bottom


I will refer her to the sexual harassment lawyer.

--
Tekkie

Julie Bove posted for all of us...

And I know how to SNIP



I am old. My daughter took a picture of my behind in my undies. It was
like the saggy baggy elephant only it was skin that was sagging. Wasn't
pretty. But I have never had a butt. Hard for me to find underwear that
fits. Thick waist, no hips, no butt. I have actually had underwear that
flapped around me like butterfly wings. That wasn't pretty either.

Uh, TMI No need to post pix on this one! Look for the Beemis brand. They
manufacture most of the OE seats and are I what I consider the industry
standard. IDK if they manufacture a soft one but it wouldn't hurt to ask.
(g) A medical supply house may be able to help. The soft ones I've seen for
sale seemed to made as "novelty items".

You should have a family sit-down to discuss this.

--
Tekkie

On Tue, 03 Jun 2014 17:30:05 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Tue, 03 Jun 2014 08:23:58 -0600, Tony Hwang
wrote:

Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On Sun, 1 Jun 2014 23:15:15 -0700, "Julie Bove"
wrote:




This is why I like to rent! Sure you don't get a lot of options but
you also don't have to fix anything. And unless I win the lottery or
something, I'll never have my dream home. I just have to keep the one I
have from falling apart.

I've never rented. Bought my first house when I was 20 and single, got
married a few months later. If you rent, you still pay for repairs as
part of the rent, but have no choice in anything. My house is the way I
want it and all good quality fixtures and appliances. The house is paid
for so I'm living cheaper with only taxes and insurance. Makes retirement
easier when I finally decide to.

Yes, you do but all you have to do is call the landlord. And if you have a
good one, he or she will take care of it.

I know plenty of landlords and people that rant. In my bathroom, we
wanted Kohler faucets, brushed nickel. They are smooth operating and
should last a lifetime. At the plumbing supply they were $253.

We were at Lowe's last week and they had a faucet set for $69. They
felt like crap when you turned the handle. Guess which one a landlord
would buy?

Hi,
Smart landlord will buy the good one, El Cheapo, Scrooge land lord will
buy that crap.

I always use cheap faucets. As long as they're metal.
Simple mechanisms.
Never have trouble with them. Only buy 2-handle lever type.
Except for the laundry tub, which are knob type.
My wife has the say on "style." She's always found one she likes dirt
cheap. $69 is high end.
YMMV.

I had a one handle faucet on my kitchen sink I forget the brand but
it's famous. They advertise a lot, washerless faucet (but they fail to
mention it has other rubber parts that need replacing probably more
often than washers do.)

It was dripping. Replacing parts didnt' help. Called them. They sent
me a whole new set of replacement parts. Didnt' help.

Looked at other faucets. Didn't like the looks of any except the brand
I had, and I didn't want to buy another one of those.

Walking from Home Depot to Walmart. Found a faucet just like mine in
the grassy area next to the road, but grass was tall and couldn't be
seen from a car. Took it home. It looked good, but had a place for a
hose and sprayer, that was missing. Next day, weent back to the grassy
area. Got the hose and sprayer. out of the grass. Same brand as I
what I had that was dripping. Installed in the sink. 5 years ago. No
dripping yet. Works fine.

If you are awash in cash, get a Toto washlet. Among its features is a
long lasting padded seat that is heated.

Julie Bove wrote:
I am getting yet another one of these. Personally I am fine with the
cheap plastic or wood ones. I have seen a wood one break. Wasn't mine
and I can't remember now where it was. A piece actually cracked off.
Can't say that I've had a plastic one break. But the others who live
here love the soft ones. The problem I have is that they split at the
seams or just get weird slits in them. I was like... What are you two
doing? Sitting down with a knife or something?

I ordered this one as it seemed to get mostly good reviews:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...?ie=UTF8&psc=1


I think I have bought all of the various ones that I can find in the
brick and mortar stores. And they all suck. Has anyone bought one that
they had good luck with? I'd like it to last longer than a year.

On Fri, 30 May 2014 22:58:07 -0700, "Julie Bove"
wrote:

I am getting yet another one of these. Personally I am fine with the cheap
plastic or wood ones. I have seen a wood one break. Wasn't mine and I
can't remember now where it was. A piece actually cracked off. Can't say
that I've had a plastic one break. But the others who live here love the
soft ones. The problem I have is that they split at the seams or just get
weird slits in them. I was like... What are you two doing? Sitting down
with a knife or something?

I ordered this one as it seemed to get mostly good reviews:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I think I have bought all of the various ones that I can find in the brick
and mortar stores. And they all suck. Has anyone bought one that they had
good luck with? I'd like it to last longer than a year.


I tried soft seats a couple times but my experience was that they were
all too soft and just compressed down to a poorly contoured "bottom
ring" and for long sits were actually less comfortable then a well
contoured plastic seat.

"micky" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 03 Jun 2014 17:30:05 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Tue, 03 Jun 2014 08:23:58 -0600, Tony Hwang
wrote:

Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On Sun, 1 Jun 2014 23:15:15 -0700, "Julie Bove"
wrote:




This is why I like to rent! Sure you don't get a lot of options
but
you also don't have to fix anything. And unless I win the lottery
or
something, I'll never have my dream home. I just have to keep the
one I
have from falling apart.

I've never rented. Bought my first house when I was 20 and single,
got
married a few months later. If you rent, you still pay for repairs
as
part of the rent, but have no choice in anything. My house is the
way I
want it and all good quality fixtures and appliances. The house is
paid
for so I'm living cheaper with only taxes and insurance. Makes
retirement
easier when I finally decide to.

Yes, you do but all you have to do is call the landlord. And if you
have a
good one, he or she will take care of it.

I know plenty of landlords and people that rant. In my bathroom, we
wanted Kohler faucets, brushed nickel. They are smooth operating and
should last a lifetime. At the plumbing supply they were $253.

We were at Lowe's last week and they had a faucet set for $69. They
felt like crap when you turned the handle. Guess which one a landlord
would buy?

Hi,
Smart landlord will buy the good one, El Cheapo, Scrooge land lord will
buy that crap.

I always use cheap faucets. As long as they're metal.
Simple mechanisms.
Never have trouble with them. Only buy 2-handle lever type.
Except for the laundry tub, which are knob type.
My wife has the say on "style." She's always found one she likes dirt
cheap. $69 is high end.
YMMV.

I had a one handle faucet on my kitchen sink I forget the brand but
it's famous. They advertise a lot, washerless faucet (but they fail to
mention it has other rubber parts that need replacing probably more
often than washers do.)

It was dripping. Replacing parts didnt' help. Called them. They sent
me a whole new set of replacement parts. Didnt' help.

Looked at other faucets. Didn't like the looks of any except the brand
I had, and I didn't want to buy another one of those.

Walking from Home Depot to Walmart. Found a faucet just like mine in
the grassy area next to the road, but grass was tall and couldn't be
seen from a car. Took it home. It looked good, but had a place for a
hose and sprayer, that was missing. Next day, weent back to the grassy
area. Got the hose and sprayer. out of the grass. Same brand as I
what I had that was dripping. Installed in the sink. 5 years ago. No
dripping yet. Works fine.

Ha!

"Not@home" wrote in message
...
If you are awash in cash, get a Toto washlet. Among its features is a
long lasting padded seat that is heated.

Not awash in cash.

On Sun, 8 Jun 2014 22:07:33 -0700, "Julie Bove"
wrote:




Walking from Home Depot to Walmart. Found a faucet just like mine in
the grassy area next to the road, but grass was tall and couldn't be
seen from a car. Took it home. It looked good, but had a place for a
hose and sprayer, that was missing. Next day, weent back to the grassy
area. Got the hose and sprayer. out of the grass. Same brand as I
what I had that was dripping. Installed in the sink. 5 years ago. No
dripping yet. Works fine.

Ha!

Ha! is right.

Following the above advice, I've been searching the grass around both
Home Depot and Lowe's. So far, no faucets. What am I doing wrong?

On Sun, 8 Jun 2014 22:08:05 -0700, "Julie Bove"
wrote:


"Not@home" wrote in message
...
If you are awash in cash, get a Toto washlet. Among its features is a
long lasting padded seat that is heated.

The last thing I need is a heated toilet seat. It would be like
travel insurance.

If my house is warm enough so will my bottom be warm enough, and if my
bottom is too cold, I need it warmed all the time, not just when I'm on
the toilet.

Not awash in cash.

On Mon, 09 Jun 2014 06:04:08 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On Sun, 8 Jun 2014 22:07:33 -0700, "Julie Bove"
wrote:




Walking from Home Depot to Walmart. Found a faucet just like mine in
the grassy area next to the road, but grass was tall and couldn't be
seen from a car. Took it home. It looked good, but had a place for a
hose and sprayer, that was missing. Next day, weent back to the grassy
area. Got the hose and sprayer. out of the grass. Same brand as I
what I had that was dripping. Installed in the sink. 5 years ago. No
dripping yet. Works fine.

Ha!

Ha! is right.

Following the above advice, I've been searching the grass around both
Home Depot and Lowe's. So far, no faucets. What am I doing wrong?

I don't know. I thought it surprising that I found just what I
needed, and it was both free, and solved the problem, Which should I
buy. It was the only thing in that grass btw. I may have saved
their lawn mower from damage by picking it up.

Ed Pawlowski posted for all of us...

And I know how to SNIP

Ha! is right.

Following the above advice, I've been searching the grass around both
Home Depot and Lowe's. So far, no faucets. What am I doing wrong?


It's been picked clean by the day laborers?

--
Tekkie

"Tekkie®" wrote in message
...
Julie Bove posted for all of us...

And I know how to SNIP



I am old. My daughter took a picture of my behind in my undies. It was
like the saggy baggy elephant only it was skin that was sagging. Wasn't
pretty. But I have never had a butt. Hard for me to find underwear that
fits. Thick waist, no hips, no butt. I have actually had underwear that
flapped around me like butterfly wings. That wasn't pretty either.

Uh, TMI No need to post pix on this one! Look for the Beemis brand. They
manufacture most of the OE seats and are I what I consider the industry
standard. IDK if they manufacture a soft one but it wouldn't hurt to ask.
(g) A medical supply house may be able to help. The soft ones I've seen
for
sale seemed to made as "novelty items".

You should have a family sit-down to discuss this.

Thanks!