I love that show. Buffalo Joe, I'd not want to work for him. But, the planes
and the situations are really engaging. I'm also very, very glad I'm not
there. That weather and such, is really rough. The government is also a PIA.
I suspect because Joe's rather dificult to deal with.

Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..

"Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message
...

Have you been watching Ice Pilots? That Electra sucks a lot of fuel
every mile. In one show they were transporting fuel to some distant
outpost and burned as much as they delivered.

http://www.what2fly.com/operating_co...ectra_l188.php
$11 per mile


Operating Costs Per Hour

Other Related Information



Fuel Cost Per Hour:

$3834.47



Fuel Cost Per Gallon: $5.47



Oil Cost Per Hour:

$4.00



Fuel Type: Jet-A

On Dec 8, 12:58*pm, wrote:
On Sat, 08 Dec 2012 08:56:45 -0500, George
wrote:





On 12/7/2012 6:17 PM, wrote:
On Dec 7, 5:43 pm, Oren wrote:
On Fri, 7 Dec 2012 16:22:53 -0600, " Attila Iskander"

wrote:
Best country in the world - and goofs like you staying away will help
keep it that way.

Arguable point about "best country in the world"
* * And Canada has it's share of "goofs".

_$28 cabbage, $65 chicken, and other insane food prices in Northern
Canada _

"...It’s not just food, either — necessary sundries like diapers and
sanitary napkins are also outrageously expensive."

http://grist.org/list/28-cabbage-65-chicken-and-other-insane-food-pri...

Good find, my friend. *Where's HomelessGuy when you need him?
According to him, why everything is peachy keen up there in Canada
with a perfect economy and bad
stuff only happens in the USA. * At least here peppers and cabbage
don't cost $15 a pound.

Not disputing troubled "home guy" but how much do you suppose it adds to
the cost of a crate of produce if you load it on an airplane with 5
other crates and fly it 1,000 miles into the most distant of the
Northwest territories?

* Rom Northern Air Cargo website:http://www.nacargo.com/shipping/rates.php

The formula to calculate total charges is weight x /lb. rate x current
fuel surcharge x tax = total

For example: a 72 lb. widget from Anchorage to Bethel would be charged
as follows;

72 lb. x .74 (rate) = $53.28
$53.28 x 12% (fuel*) = $59.67
$59.67 x 6.25% (tax) = $63.40 total charges

Effective Date: January 01, 2011

That is AMERICAN North on scheduled flights.

InnCanada, First Air, flying from Resolute to Arctic Bay,1-10KG is
$40/kg11-15Kg is $50/Kg, 16-20 is $67/kg, 21-25 is $83/kg, all the way
up to 41-44KG at $141/kg.



So, you get a pallet of cabbage, weighing 35KG into Resolute and want
to ship it to Arctic Bay, it will cost you $3990 to ship it. Say each
cabbage weighs 1Kg (2.2 lbs) the cost per cabbage is $141.

Are you so dumb that you really think it costs $141 to
ship a head of cabbage?

Per your shipping rates above, why would you put it onto
a pallet. The heavier the weight, the more you're saying they
charge you PER KG. So, send it one cabbage at a time
and it will cost a lot less.

In other words, I think as happens frequently, you've got it
all screwed up, because those rates make no sense. You
want to think about it, check it out and get back to us?

wrote in message
...
On Dec 8, 12:58 pm, wrote:
On Sat, 08 Dec 2012 08:56:45 -0500, George
wrote:





On 12/7/2012 6:17 PM, wrote:
On Dec 7, 5:43 pm, Oren wrote:
On Fri, 7 Dec 2012 16:22:53 -0600, " Attila Iskander"

wrote:
Best country in the world - and goofs like you staying away will
help
keep it that way.

Arguable point about "best country in the world"
And Canada has it's share of "goofs".

_$28 cabbage, $65 chicken, and other insane food prices in Northern
Canada _

"...It’s not just food, either — necessary sundries like diapers and
sanitary napkins are also outrageously expensive."

http://grist.org/list/28-cabbage-65-chicken-and-other-insane-food-pri...

Good find, my friend. Where's HomelessGuy when you need him?
According to him, why everything is peachy keen up there in Canada
with a perfect economy and bad
stuff only happens in the USA. At least here peppers and cabbage
don't cost $15 a pound.

Not disputing troubled "home guy" but how much do you suppose it adds to
the cost of a crate of produce if you load it on an airplane with 5
other crates and fly it 1,000 miles into the most distant of the
Northwest territories?

Rom Northern Air Cargo website:http://www.nacargo.com/shipping/rates.php

The formula to calculate total charges is weight x /lb. rate x current
fuel surcharge x tax = total

For example: a 72 lb. widget from Anchorage to Bethel would be charged
as follows;

72 lb. x .74 (rate) = $53.28
$53.28 x 12% (fuel*) = $59.67
$59.67 x 6.25% (tax) = $63.40 total charges

Effective Date: January 01, 2011

That is AMERICAN North on scheduled flights.

InnCanada, First Air, flying from Resolute to Arctic Bay,1-10KG is
$40/kg11-15Kg is $50/Kg, 16-20 is $67/kg, 21-25 is $83/kg, all the way
up to 41-44KG at $141/kg.



So, you get a pallet of cabbage, weighing 35KG into Resolute and want
to ship it to Arctic Bay, it will cost you $3990 to ship it. Say each
cabbage weighs 1Kg (2.2 lbs) the cost per cabbage is $141.
#
# Are you so dumb that you really think it costs $141 to
# ship a head of cabbage?
#
# Per your shipping rates above, why would you put it onto
# a pallet. The heavier the weight, the more you're saying they
# charge you PER KG. So, send it one cabbage at a time
# and it will cost a lot less.

Yup
I can just see a grocer individually wrapping and shipping cabbages
separately
And you are foolish enough to imagine that the cargo service will not start
charging a minimum ?

#
# In other words, I think as happens frequently, you've got it
# all screwed up, because those rates make no sense. You
# want to think about it, check it out and get back to us?
#

Why don't you tell us why those rates do not make sense ?
Take as many screens as you need.
Get adult help to check your post before you send it.

On Sat, 8 Dec 2012 15:24:32 -0500, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:

I love that show. Buffalo Joe, I'd not want to work for him. But, the planes
and the situations are really engaging. I'm also very, very glad I'm not
there. That weather and such, is really rough. The government is also a PIA.
I suspect because Joe's rather dificult to deal with.

Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
.

Transport Canada is a PIA for ANYONE to deal with. A lot of the
inspectors are totally clueless about aviation - and business.

"Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message
.. .

Have you been watching Ice Pilots? That Electra sucks a lot of fuel
every mile. In one show they were transporting fuel to some distant
outpost and burned as much as they delivered.

http://www.what2fly.com/operating_co...ectra_l188.php
$11 per mile


Operating Costs Per Hour

Other Related Information



Fuel Cost Per Hour:

$3834.47



Fuel Cost Per Gallon: $5.47



Oil Cost Per Hour:

$4.00



Fuel Type: Jet-A

On Sat, 8 Dec 2012 17:12:02 -0600, " Attila Iskander"
wrote:


wrote in message
...
On Dec 8, 12:58 pm, wrote:
On Sat, 08 Dec 2012 08:56:45 -0500, George
wrote:





On 12/7/2012 6:17 PM, wrote:
On Dec 7, 5:43 pm, Oren wrote:
On Fri, 7 Dec 2012 16:22:53 -0600, " Attila Iskander"

wrote:
Best country in the world - and goofs like you staying away will
help
keep it that way.

Arguable point about "best country in the world"
And Canada has it's share of "goofs".

_$28 cabbage, $65 chicken, and other insane food prices in Northern
Canada _

"...Its not just food, either €” necessary sundries like diapers and
sanitary napkins are also outrageously expensive."

http://grist.org/list/28-cabbage-65-chicken-and-other-insane-food-pri...

Good find, my friend. Where's HomelessGuy when you need him?
According to him, why everything is peachy keen up there in Canada
with a perfect economy and bad
stuff only happens in the USA. At least here peppers and cabbage
don't cost $15 a pound.

Not disputing troubled "home guy" but how much do you suppose it adds to
the cost of a crate of produce if you load it on an airplane with 5
other crates and fly it 1,000 miles into the most distant of the
Northwest territories?

Rom Northern Air Cargo website:http://www.nacargo.com/shipping/rates.php

The formula to calculate total charges is weight x /lb. rate x current
fuel surcharge x tax = total

For example: a 72 lb. widget from Anchorage to Bethel would be charged
as follows;

72 lb. x .74 (rate) = $53.28
$53.28 x 12% (fuel*) = $59.67
$59.67 x 6.25% (tax) = $63.40 total charges

Effective Date: January 01, 2011

That is AMERICAN North on scheduled flights.

InnCanada, First Air, flying from Resolute to Arctic Bay,1-10KG is
$40/kg11-15Kg is $50/Kg, 16-20 is $67/kg, 21-25 is $83/kg, all the way
up to 41-44KG at $141/kg.



So, you get a pallet of cabbage, weighing 35KG into Resolute and want
to ship it to Arctic Bay, it will cost you $3990 to ship it. Say each
cabbage weighs 1Kg (2.2 lbs) the cost per cabbage is $141.
#
# Are you so dumb that you really think it costs $141 to
# ship a head of cabbage?
#
# Per your shipping rates above, why would you put it onto
# a pallet. The heavier the weight, the more you're saying they
# charge you PER KG. So, send it one cabbage at a time
# and it will cost a lot less.

Yup
I can just see a grocer individually wrapping and shipping cabbages
separately
And you are foolish enough to imagine that the cargo service will not start
charging a minimum ?


If he was smart enough to look at the reference I gave, and READ it,
there IS a minimum. And by "pallet" I guess I should have said a
"flat" or "case"
#
# In other words, I think as happens frequently, you've got it
# all screwed up, because those rates make no sense. You
# want to think about it, check it out and get back to us?
#

Google first air shipping rates Resolute and see for yourself.

Why don't you tell us why those rates do not make sense ?
Take as many screens as you need.
Get adult help to check your post before you send it.

Reply center posted.

Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..

wrote in message
...
On Sat, 8 Dec 2012 15:24:32 -0500, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:

I love that show. Buffalo Joe, I'd not want to work for him. But, the
planes
and the situations are really engaging. I'm also very, very glad I'm not
there. That weather and such, is really rough. The government is also a
PIA.
I suspect because Joe's rather dificult to deal with.

Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
.

Transport Canada is a PIA for Oh, thanks. I thought it was mostly account of
Joe being dificult. ANYONE to deal with. A lot of the inspectors are totally
clueless about aviation - and business.

"Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message
.. .

Have you been watching Ice Pilots? That Electra sucks a lot of fuel
every mile. In one show they were transporting fuel to some distant
outpost and burned as much as they delivered.

http://www.what2fly.com/operating_co...ectra_l188.php
$11 per mile


Operating Costs Per Hour

Other Related Information



Fuel Cost Per Hour:

$3834.47



Fuel Cost Per Gallon: $5.47



Oil Cost Per Hour:

$4.00



Fuel Type: Jet-A

wrote in message
...
On Sat, 8 Dec 2012 17:12:02 -0600, " Attila Iskander"
wrote:


wrote in message
...
On Dec 8, 12:58 pm, wrote:
On Sat, 08 Dec 2012 08:56:45 -0500, George
wrote:





On 12/7/2012 6:17 PM, wrote:
On Dec 7, 5:43 pm, Oren wrote:
On Fri, 7 Dec 2012 16:22:53 -0600, " Attila Iskander"

wrote:
Best country in the world - and goofs like you staying away will
help
keep it that way.

Arguable point about "best country in the world"
And Canada has it's share of "goofs".

_$28 cabbage, $65 chicken, and other insane food prices in Northern
Canada _

"...Its not just food, either €” necessary sundries like diapers and
sanitary napkins are also outrageously expensive."

http://grist.org/list/28-cabbage-65-chicken-and-other-insane-food-pri...

Good find, my friend. Where's HomelessGuy when you need him?
According to him, why everything is peachy keen up there in Canada
with a perfect economy and bad
stuff only happens in the USA. At least here peppers and cabbage
don't cost $15 a pound.

Not disputing troubled "home guy" but how much do you suppose it adds
to
the cost of a crate of produce if you load it on an airplane with 5
other crates and fly it 1,000 miles into the most distant of the
Northwest territories?

Rom Northern Air Cargo website:http://www.nacargo.com/shipping/rates.php

The formula to calculate total charges is weight x /lb. rate x current
fuel surcharge x tax = total

For example: a 72 lb. widget from Anchorage to Bethel would be charged
as follows;

72 lb. x .74 (rate) = $53.28
$53.28 x 12% (fuel*) = $59.67
$59.67 x 6.25% (tax) = $63.40 total charges

Effective Date: January 01, 2011

That is AMERICAN North on scheduled flights.

InnCanada, First Air, flying from Resolute to Arctic Bay,1-10KG is
$40/kg11-15Kg is $50/Kg, 16-20 is $67/kg, 21-25 is $83/kg, all the way
up to 41-44KG at $141/kg.



So, you get a pallet of cabbage, weighing 35KG into Resolute and want
to ship it to Arctic Bay, it will cost you $3990 to ship it. Say each
cabbage weighs 1Kg (2.2 lbs) the cost per cabbage is $141.
#
# Are you so dumb that you really think it costs $141 to
# ship a head of cabbage?
#
# Per your shipping rates above, why would you put it onto
# a pallet. The heavier the weight, the more you're saying they
# charge you PER KG. So, send it one cabbage at a time
# and it will cost a lot less.

Yup
I can just see a grocer individually wrapping and shipping cabbages
separately
And you are foolish enough to imagine that the cargo service will not
start
charging a minimum ?


If he was smart enough to look at the reference I gave, and READ it,
there IS a minimum. And by "pallet" I guess I should have said a
"flat" or "case"
#
# In other words, I think as happens frequently, you've got it
# all screwed up, because those rates make no sense. You
# want to think about it, check it out and get back to us?
#

Google first air shipping rates Resolute and see for yourself.

Why don't you tell us why those rates do not make sense ?
Take as many screens as you need.
Get adult help to check your post before you send it.




t4 is not smart enough to read carefully and actually think about what he
read
He's too busy coming up with "responses"

Love to hear more about it.

Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..

" Attila Iskander" wrote in message
...

I was fortunate enough to spend over a year and a half up in the Arctic,
primarily in the NWT and about 3 months in the Yukon,
One of the most interesting experiences I ever had.

"Stormin Mormon" wrote in message
...
Love to hear more about it.

Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
.

" Attila Iskander" wrote in message
...

I was fortunate enough to spend over a year and a half up in the Arctic,
primarily in the NWT and about 3 months in the Yukon,
One of the most interesting experiences I ever had.



No home repair involved.

On 12/8/2012 9:03 PM, Attila Iskander wrote:

"Stormin Mormon" wrote in message
...
Love to hear more about it.

Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
.

" Attila Iskander" wrote in message
...

I was fortunate enough to spend over a year and a half up in the Arctic,
primarily in the NWT and about 3 months in the Yukon,
One of the most interesting experiences I ever had.


No home repair involved.


I take it you're Canadian and there is a burning question I've always
wanted to ask one of my Canadian cousins. On every SciFi TV show, the
outer space aliens who speak English, always seem to have a Canadian
accent. I've always been very curious a-boat that, eh? ^_^

TDD

On 12/8/2012 8:39 PM, Attila Iskander wrote:

wrote in message
...
On Sat, 8 Dec 2012 17:12:02 -0600, " Attila Iskander"
wrote:


wrote in message
...
On Dec 8, 12:58 pm, wrote:
On Sat, 08 Dec 2012 08:56:45 -0500, George
wrote:





On 12/7/2012 6:17 PM, wrote:
On Dec 7, 5:43 pm, Oren wrote:
On Fri, 7 Dec 2012 16:22:53 -0600, " Attila Iskander"

wrote:
Best country in the world - and goofs like you staying away will
help
keep it that way.

Arguable point about "best country in the world"
And Canada has it's share of "goofs".

_$28 cabbage, $65 chicken, and other insane food prices in Northern
Canada _

"...Its not just food, either €” necessary sundries like diapers
and
sanitary napkins are also outrageously expensive."


http://grist.org/list/28-cabbage-65-chicken-and-other-insane-food-pri...


Good find, my friend. Where's HomelessGuy when you need him?
According to him, why everything is peachy keen up there in Canada
with a perfect economy and bad
stuff only happens in the USA. At least here peppers and cabbage
don't cost $15 a pound.

Not disputing troubled "home guy" but how much do you suppose it
adds to
the cost of a crate of produce if you load it on an airplane with 5
other crates and fly it 1,000 miles into the most distant of the
Northwest territories?

Rom Northern Air Cargo
website:http://www.nacargo.com/shipping/rates.php

The formula to calculate total charges is weight x /lb. rate x current
fuel surcharge x tax = total

For example: a 72 lb. widget from Anchorage to Bethel would be charged
as follows;

72 lb. x .74 (rate) = $53.28
$53.28 x 12% (fuel*) = $59.67
$59.67 x 6.25% (tax) = $63.40 total charges

Effective Date: January 01, 2011

That is AMERICAN North on scheduled flights.

InnCanada, First Air, flying from Resolute to Arctic Bay,1-10KG is
$40/kg11-15Kg is $50/Kg, 16-20 is $67/kg, 21-25 is $83/kg, all the way
up to 41-44KG at $141/kg.



So, you get a pallet of cabbage, weighing 35KG into Resolute and want
to ship it to Arctic Bay, it will cost you $3990 to ship it. Say each
cabbage weighs 1Kg (2.2 lbs) the cost per cabbage is $141.
#
# Are you so dumb that you really think it costs $141 to
# ship a head of cabbage?
#
# Per your shipping rates above, why would you put it onto
# a pallet. The heavier the weight, the more you're saying they
# charge you PER KG. So, send it one cabbage at a time
# and it will cost a lot less.

Yup
I can just see a grocer individually wrapping and shipping cabbages
separately
And you are foolish enough to imagine that the cargo service will not
start
charging a minimum ?


If he was smart enough to look at the reference I gave, and READ it,
there IS a minimum. And by "pallet" I guess I should have said a
"flat" or "case"
#
# In other words, I think as happens frequently, you've got it
# all screwed up, because those rates make no sense. You
# want to think about it, check it out and get back to us?
#

Google first air shipping rates Resolute and see for yourself.

Why don't you tell us why those rates do not make sense ?
Take as many screens as you need.
Get adult help to check your post before you send it.




t4 is not smart enough to read carefully and actually think about what
he read
He's too busy coming up with "responses"

Heck, I'm looking for a price list for shipping to The International
Space Station. ^_^

TDD

"The Daring Dufas" wrote in message
...
On 12/8/2012 8:39 PM, Attila Iskander wrote:


t4 is not smart enough to read carefully and actually think about what
he read
He's too busy coming up with "responses"

Heck, I'm looking for a price list for shipping to The International Space
Station. ^_^



Hang on
I know I have one.
Last time I saw it, it was in my drawer right next to my certificate from
the Frobisher Bay School For Alien Impersonators on TV and Film..

Ed Pawlowski wrote:

Once you offer employment. Up to that time, it is against the law to
ask for DOB. You can ask if a person is over 18 or over 21 if the job
requires you be of that age.

And what law would that be?

On Dec 8, 11:38*am, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On Sat, 08 Dec 2012 08:56:45 -0500, George
wrote:



Not disputing troubled "home guy" but how much do you suppose it adds to
the cost of a crate of produce if you load it on an airplane with 5
other crates and fly it 1,000 miles into the most distant of the
Northwest territories?

Have you been watching Ice Pilots? *That Electra sucks a lot of fuel
every mile. *In one show they were transporting fuel to some distant
outpost and burned as much as they delivered.

http://www.what2fly.com/operating_co...ectra_l188.php
$11 per mile

Operating Costs Per Hour

*Other Related Information

Fuel Cost Per Hour:

*$3834.47

*Fuel Cost Per Gallon: $5.47

Oil Cost Per Hour:

$4.00

Fuel Type: Jet-A

OK, let's work with the above. Clare told us that it cost
$141 to ship a single head of cabbage from Resolute to Arctic Bay,
right?

It's a distance of 200 miles. The Electra has a cruise speed
of 373mph. Let's be generous and say the flight takes an hour.
Per your numbers the fuel cost is $3,800. The Electra has a
payload capacity of 45,000 lbs. So, using your numbers
the fuel cost per pound for the flight is $.08. Let's say it flies
with only a quarter of a load. It's then $.32

Or take the bottom line number you supplied, $11 per mile.
Then the trip total operating cost is $2,200

Let's double that assuming there isn't much coming back
the other way. The highest number I get is then $.64 per
pound of freight.

Now of course there are a lot of other costs involved besides
the operating cost of the aircraft, the pilots, depreciation of
the aircraft, profits, etc.
But do you really think given the above, that it a cabbage
costing $16 can be attributed to the air transportation?
I can see it being a couple bucks. Which by the way
jives with what you stated about it costing as much as
the fuel to haul gasoline to the most remote Canadian
military base. Four bucks for hauling a gallon of gas,
a buck or two for hauling a cabbage. I can deal with that.

And according to Clare the freaking cabbage should
cost $141+ because that's what it costs to ship it.
And the other thing that makes no sense is that the shipping
rate goes up, per pound, the more you ship? I can see
that happening for special, large, heavy items. But
according to Clare's rates, you could ship those cabbages
cheaper one at a time. His rates show that to ship
up to 10kg, it's $40 per kg. But if you ship 11kg, then it
goes up to $50/kg? That's just a 22 lb item.

Beginning to smell like either the heavy hand of govt
or some major shystering to me.

On Dec 8, 6:12*pm, " Attila Iskander"
wrote:
wrote in message

...
On Dec 8, 12:58 pm, wrote:





On Sat, 08 Dec 2012 08:56:45 -0500, George
wrote:

On 12/7/2012 6:17 PM, wrote:
On Dec 7, 5:43 pm, Oren wrote:
On Fri, 7 Dec 2012 16:22:53 -0600, " Attila Iskander"

wrote:
Best country in the world - and goofs like you staying away will
help
keep it that way.

Arguable point about "best country in the world"
And Canada has it's share of "goofs".

_$28 cabbage, $65 chicken, and other insane food prices in Northern
Canada _

"...It’s not just food, either — necessary sundries like diapers and
sanitary napkins are also outrageously expensive."

http://grist.org/list/28-cabbage-65-chicken-and-other-insane-food-pri...

Good find, my friend. Where's HomelessGuy when you need him?
According to him, why everything is peachy keen up there in Canada
with a perfect economy and bad
stuff only happens in the USA. At least here peppers and cabbage
don't cost $15 a pound.

Not disputing troubled "home guy" but how much do you suppose it adds to
the cost of a crate of produce if you load it on an airplane with 5
other crates and fly it 1,000 miles into the most distant of the
Northwest territories?

Rom Northern Air Cargo website:http://www.nacargo.com/shipping/rates.php

The formula to calculate total charges is weight x /lb. rate x current
fuel surcharge x tax = total

For example: a 72 lb. widget from Anchorage to Bethel would be charged
as follows;

72 lb. x .74 (rate) = $53.28
$53.28 x 12% (fuel*) = $59.67
$59.67 x 6.25% (tax) = $63.40 total charges

Effective Date: January 01, 2011

That is AMERICAN North on scheduled flights.

InnCanada, First Air, flying from Resolute to Arctic Bay,1-10KG is
$40/kg11-15Kg is $50/Kg, 16-20 is $67/kg, 21-25 is $83/kg, all the way
up to 41-44KG at $141/kg.

So, you get a pallet of cabbage, weighing 35KG into Resolute and want
to ship it to Arctic Bay, it will cost you $3990 to ship it. Say each
cabbage weighs 1Kg (2.2 lbs) the cost per cabbage is $141.

#
# Are you so dumb that you really think it costs $141 to
# ship a head of cabbage?
#
# Per your shipping rates above, why would you put it onto
# a pallet. *The heavier the weight, the more you're saying they
# charge you PER KG. * So, send it one cabbage at a time
# and it will cost a lot less.

Yup
I can just see a grocer individually wrapping and shipping cabbages
separately
And you are foolish enough to imagine that the cargo service will not start
charging a minimum ?

A grocer doesn't wrap up cabbages, the produce
supplier does. It was Clare who came up with the silly
number of $141 to ship a single cabbage 200 miles.
And I'm the foolish one? All I did was point out it's obviously
BS and that he based it in part on shipping a pallet of
cabbages. The shipping rate he posted is less for smaller
loads. So, yes, the produce shipper would package them
in smaller packages. The one head at a time was a
sarcastic exageration, which was obviously too much
for you to compute. You swallowed the $141 BS, quite
nicely though.




#
# In other words, I think as happens frequently, you've got it
# all screwed up, because those rates make no sense. *You
# want to think about it, check it out and get back to us?
#

Why don't you tell us why those rates do not make sense ?
* * Take as many screens as you need.
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On Sat, 08 Dec 2012 08:56:45 -0500, George
wrote:

On 12/7/2012 6:17 PM, wrote:
On Dec 7, 5:43 pm, Oren wrote:
On Fri, 7 Dec 2012 16:22:53 -0600, " Attila Iskander"

wrote:
Best country in the world - and goofs like you staying away will
help
keep it that way.

Arguable point about "best country in the world"
And Canada has it's share of "goofs".

_$28 cabbage, $65 chicken, and other insane food prices in Northern
Canada _

"...It’s not just food, either — necessary sundries like diapers and
sanitary napkins are also outrageously expensive."

http://grist.org/list/28-cabbage-65-chicken-and-other-insane-food-pri...

Good find, my friend. Where's HomelessGuy when you need him?
According to him, why everything is peachy keen up there in Canada
with a perfect economy and bad
stuff only happens in the USA. At least here peppers and cabbage
don't cost $15 a pound.

Not disputing troubled "home guy" but how much do you suppose it adds
to
the cost of a crate of produce if you load it on an airplane with 5
other crates and fly it 1,000 miles into the most distant of the
Northwest territories?

Rom Northern Air Cargo website:http://www.nacargo.com/shipping/rates.php

The formula to calculate total charges is weight x /lb. rate x current
fuel surcharge x tax = total

For example: a 72 lb. widget from Anchorage to Bethel would be charged
as follows;

72 lb. x .74 (rate) = $53.28
$53.28 x 12% (fuel*) = $59.67
$59.67 x 6.25% (tax) = $63.40 total charges

Effective Date: January 01, 2011

That is AMERICAN North on scheduled flights.

InnCanada, First Air, flying from Resolute to Arctic Bay,1-10KG is
$40/kg11-15Kg is $50/Kg, 16-20 is $67/kg, 21-25 is $83/kg, all the way
up to 41-44KG at $141/kg.

So, you get a pallet of cabbage, weighing 35KG into Resolute and want
to ship it to Arctic Bay, it will cost you $3990 to ship it. Say each
cabbage weighs 1Kg (2.2 lbs) the cost per cabbage is $141.

#
# Are you so dumb that you really think it costs $141 to
# ship a head of cabbage?
#
# Per your shipping rates above, why would you put it onto
# a pallet. The heavier the weight, the more you're saying they
# charge you PER KG. So, send it one cabbage at a time
# and it will cost a lot less.

Yup
I can just see a grocer individually wrapping and shipping cabbages
separately
And you are foolish enough to imagine that the cargo service will not
start
charging a minimum ?
#
# A grocer doesn't wrap up cabbages, the produce
# supplier does.


Redirection noted and ignored


# It was Clare who came up with the silly
# number of $141 to ship a single cabbage 200 miles.

She also supplied the rate chart from which it was derived


# And I'm the foolish one?

Actually you are

# All I did was point out it's obviously BS

And obviously you were wrong
But then armchair Monday Morning quarterbacks usually are.


# and that he based it in part on shipping a pallet of cabbages.
# The shipping rate he posted is less for smaller loads.
# So, yes, the produce shipper would package them
# in smaller packages. The one head at a time was a
# sarcastic exageration, which was obviously too much
# for you to compute. You swallowed the $141 BS, quite
# nicely though.
#

The difference between you and people who have actually been up there is
that you are ignorant
But it is funny to see you spin and pontificate to cover for your ignorance.

If as you claim the service could be provided cheaper, you would have some
guy in a plane flying crates of cabbages up there and making a fortune
Since it's not the case, and we don't have a "Cabbage King of Frobisher
Bay", we can only conclude that once again, you are not functionning in the
real world



#
# In other words, I think as happens frequently, you've got it
# all screwed up, because those rates make no sense. You
# want to think about it, check it out and get back to us?
#

Why don't you tell us why those rates do not make sense ?
Take as many screens as you need.
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On Dec 9, 9:47*am, " Attila Iskander"
wrote:
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On Dec 8, 6:12 pm, " Attila Iskander"
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On Dec 8, 12:58 pm, wrote:

On Sat, 08 Dec 2012 08:56:45 -0500, George
wrote:

On 12/7/2012 6:17 PM, wrote:
On Dec 7, 5:43 pm, Oren wrote:
On Fri, 7 Dec 2012 16:22:53 -0600, " Attila Iskander"

wrote:
Best country in the world - and goofs like you staying away will
help
keep it that way.

Arguable point about "best country in the world"
And Canada has it's share of "goofs".

_$28 cabbage, $65 chicken, and other insane food prices in Northern
Canada _

"...It’s not just food, either — necessary sundries like diapers and
sanitary napkins are also outrageously expensive."

http://grist.org/list/28-cabbage-65-chicken-and-other-insane-food-pri...

Good find, my friend. Where's HomelessGuy when you need him?
According to him, why everything is peachy keen up there in Canada
with a perfect economy and bad
stuff only happens in the USA. At least here peppers and cabbage
don't cost $15 a pound.

Not disputing troubled "home guy" but how much do you suppose it adds
to
the cost of a crate of produce if you load it on an airplane with 5
other crates and fly it 1,000 miles into the most distant of the
Northwest territories?

Rom Northern Air Cargo website:http://www.nacargo.com/shipping/rates.php

The formula to calculate total charges is weight x /lb. rate x current
fuel surcharge x tax = total

For example: a 72 lb. widget from Anchorage to Bethel would be charged
as follows;

72 lb. x .74 (rate) = $53.28
$53.28 x 12% (fuel*) = $59.67
$59.67 x 6.25% (tax) = $63.40 total charges

Effective Date: January 01, 2011

That is AMERICAN North on scheduled flights.

InnCanada, First Air, flying from Resolute to Arctic Bay,1-10KG is
$40/kg11-15Kg is $50/Kg, 16-20 is $67/kg, 21-25 is $83/kg, all the way
up to 41-44KG at $141/kg.

So, you get a pallet of cabbage, weighing 35KG into Resolute and want
to ship it to Arctic Bay, it will cost you $3990 to ship it. Say each
cabbage weighs 1Kg (2.2 lbs) the cost per cabbage is $141.

#
# Are you so dumb that you really think it costs $141 to
# ship a head of cabbage?
#
# Per your shipping rates above, why would you put it onto
# a pallet. The heavier the weight, the more you're saying they
# charge you PER KG. So, send it one cabbage at a time
# and it will cost a lot less.

Yup
I can just see a grocer individually wrapping and shipping cabbages
separately
And you are foolish enough to imagine that the cargo service will not
start
charging a minimum ?

#
# A grocer doesn't wrap up cabbages, the produce
# supplier does.

Redirection noted and ignored

# It was Clare who came up with the silly
# number of $141 to ship a single cabbage 200 miles.

She also supplied the rate chart from which it was derived

# And I'm the foolish one?

Actually you are

# All I did was point out it's obviously BS

And obviously you were wrong
* * But then armchair Monday Morning quarterbacks usually are.

# and that he based it in part on shipping a pallet of cabbages.
# *The shipping rate he posted is less for smaller loads.
# * *So, yes, the produce shipper would package them
# in smaller packages. *The one head at a time was a
# sarcastic exageration, which was obviously too much
# for you to compute. * You swallowed the $141 BS, quite
# nicely though.
#

The difference between you and people who have actually been up there is
that you are ignorant

So, you're actually with Clare that it costs $141 to
ship one head of cabbage 200 miles. Is that what you
saw when you were there? That cabbage costs more
than $141 a head? Boy, you really are stupid.





But it is funny to see you spin and pontificate to cover for your ignorance.

If as you claim the service could be provided cheaper, you would have some
guy in a plane flying crates of cabbages up there and making a fortune

Well, obviously someone is, fool. Or do you still believe
that cabbages sell for $141+ due to shipping costs?

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On Dec 9, 9:47 am, " Attila Iskander"
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On Dec 8, 6:12 pm, " Attila Iskander"
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On Dec 8, 12:58 pm, wrote:

On Sat, 08 Dec 2012 08:56:45 -0500, George
wrote:

On 12/7/2012 6:17 PM, wrote:
On Dec 7, 5:43 pm, Oren wrote:
On Fri, 7 Dec 2012 16:22:53 -0600, " Attila Iskander"

wrote:
Best country in the world - and goofs like you staying away will
help
keep it that way.

Arguable point about "best country in the world"
And Canada has it's share of "goofs".

_$28 cabbage, $65 chicken, and other insane food prices in
Northern
Canada _

"...It’s not just food, either — necessary sundries like diapers
and
sanitary napkins are also outrageously expensive."

http://grist.org/list/28-cabbage-65-chicken-and-other-insane-food-pri...

Good find, my friend. Where's HomelessGuy when you need him?
According to him, why everything is peachy keen up there in Canada
with a perfect economy and bad
stuff only happens in the USA. At least here peppers and cabbage
don't cost $15 a pound.

Not disputing troubled "home guy" but how much do you suppose it adds
to
the cost of a crate of produce if you load it on an airplane with 5
other crates and fly it 1,000 miles into the most distant of the
Northwest territories?

Rom Northern Air Cargo
website:http://www.nacargo.com/shipping/rates.php

The formula to calculate total charges is weight x /lb. rate x current
fuel surcharge x tax = total

For example: a 72 lb. widget from Anchorage to Bethel would be charged
as follows;

72 lb. x .74 (rate) = $53.28
$53.28 x 12% (fuel*) = $59.67
$59.67 x 6.25% (tax) = $63.40 total charges

Effective Date: January 01, 2011

That is AMERICAN North on scheduled flights.

InnCanada, First Air, flying from Resolute to Arctic Bay,1-10KG is
$40/kg11-15Kg is $50/Kg, 16-20 is $67/kg, 21-25 is $83/kg, all the way
up to 41-44KG at $141/kg.

So, you get a pallet of cabbage, weighing 35KG into Resolute and want
to ship it to Arctic Bay, it will cost you $3990 to ship it. Say each
cabbage weighs 1Kg (2.2 lbs) the cost per cabbage is $141.

#
# Are you so dumb that you really think it costs $141 to
# ship a head of cabbage?
#
# Per your shipping rates above, why would you put it onto
# a pallet. The heavier the weight, the more you're saying they
# charge you PER KG. So, send it one cabbage at a time
# and it will cost a lot less.

Yup
I can just see a grocer individually wrapping and shipping cabbages
separately
And you are foolish enough to imagine that the cargo service will not
start
charging a minimum ?

#
# A grocer doesn't wrap up cabbages, the produce
# supplier does.

Redirection noted and ignored

# It was Clare who came up with the silly
# number of $141 to ship a single cabbage 200 miles.

She also supplied the rate chart from which it was derived

# And I'm the foolish one?

Actually you are

# All I did was point out it's obviously BS

And obviously you were wrong
But then armchair Monday Morning quarterbacks usually are.

# and that he based it in part on shipping a pallet of cabbages.
# The shipping rate he posted is less for smaller loads.
# So, yes, the produce shipper would package them
# in smaller packages. The one head at a time was a
# sarcastic exageration, which was obviously too much
# for you to compute. You swallowed the $141 BS, quite
# nicely though.
#

The difference between you and people who have actually been up there is
that you are ignorant
#
# So, you're actually with Clare that it costs $141 to
# ship one head of cabbage 200 miles. Is that what you
# saw when you were there? That cabbage costs more
# than $141 a head? Boy, you really are stupid.

How could I be stupid after you have cornered the market for stupid ?
But to get back to your stupid post

The original info was:
++ InnCanada, First Air, flying from Resolute to Arctic Bay,1-10KG is
++ $40/kg11-15Kg is $50/Kg, 16-20 is $67/kg, 21-25 is $83/kg, all the
way
++ up to 41-44KG at $141/kg.
++
++ So, you get a pallet of cabbage, weighing 35KG into Resolute and want
++ to ship it to Arctic Bay, it will cost you $3990 to ship it. Say each
++ cabbage weighs 1Kg (2.2 lbs) the cost per cabbage is $141.
++

I notice that you have NEITHER challenged that shipping rates provided or
the calculations derived
That is THE ONLY WAY, you can prove that the estimate of $141 per cabbage
for 35 1kg cabbages would be $141 per cabbage

So, instead of just yammering like a stupid fool suffering from verbal
diarhea, feel free to demonstrate that the rate data provided is wrong.

That is what the transporter CHARGES to ship stuff up there
Notice also that you forget to include the costs of shipping to Resolute,
which by the way is NOT FREE eitther.



But it is funny to see you spin and pontificate to cover for your
ignorance.

If as you claim the service could be provided cheaper, you would have some
guy in a plane flying crates of cabbages up there and making a fortune

Well, obviously someone is, fool. Or do you still believe
that cabbages sell for $141+ due to shipping costs?

Moving of goalposts noted
But hey, you are free to ship some cabbages up there and see if could sell
them for less than what it would cost to get them there.
Maybe if you flew them in on a magic carpet, you could do that.

On Dec 9, 10:45*am, " Attila Iskander"
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On Dec 9, 9:47 am, " Attila Iskander"
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On Dec 8, 6:12 pm, " Attila Iskander"
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On Dec 8, 12:58 pm, wrote:

On Sat, 08 Dec 2012 08:56:45 -0500, George
wrote:

On 12/7/2012 6:17 PM, wrote:
On Dec 7, 5:43 pm, Oren wrote:
On Fri, 7 Dec 2012 16:22:53 -0600, " Attila Iskander"

wrote:
Best country in the world - and goofs like you staying away will
help
keep it that way.

Arguable point about "best country in the world"
And Canada has it's share of "goofs".

_$28 cabbage, $65 chicken, and other insane food prices in
Northern
Canada _

"...It’s not just food, either — necessary sundries like diapers
and
sanitary napkins are also outrageously expensive."

http://grist.org/list/28-cabbage-65-chicken-and-other-insane-food-pri...

Good find, my friend. Where's HomelessGuy when you need him?
According to him, why everything is peachy keen up there in Canada
with a perfect economy and bad
stuff only happens in the USA. At least here peppers and cabbage
don't cost $15 a pound.

Not disputing troubled "home guy" but how much do you suppose it adds
to
the cost of a crate of produce if you load it on an airplane with 5
other crates and fly it 1,000 miles into the most distant of the
Northwest territories?

Rom Northern Air Cargo
website:http://www.nacargo.com/shipping/rates.php

The formula to calculate total charges is weight x /lb. rate x current
fuel surcharge x tax = total

For example: a 72 lb. widget from Anchorage to Bethel would be charged
as follows;

72 lb. x .74 (rate) = $53.28
$53.28 x 12% (fuel*) = $59.67
$59.67 x 6.25% (tax) = $63.40 total charges

Effective Date: January 01, 2011

That is AMERICAN North on scheduled flights.

InnCanada, First Air, flying from Resolute to Arctic Bay,1-10KG is
$40/kg11-15Kg is $50/Kg, 16-20 is $67/kg, 21-25 is $83/kg, all the way
up to 41-44KG at $141/kg.

So, you get a pallet of cabbage, weighing 35KG into Resolute and want
to ship it to Arctic Bay, it will cost you $3990 to ship it. Say each
cabbage weighs 1Kg (2.2 lbs) the cost per cabbage is $141.

#
# Are you so dumb that you really think it costs $141 to
# ship a head of cabbage?
#
# Per your shipping rates above, why would you put it onto
# a pallet. The heavier the weight, the more you're saying they
# charge you PER KG. So, send it one cabbage at a time
# and it will cost a lot less.

Yup
I can just see a grocer individually wrapping and shipping cabbages
separately
And you are foolish enough to imagine that the cargo service will not
start
charging a minimum ?

#
# A grocer doesn't wrap up cabbages, the produce
# supplier does.

Redirection noted and ignored

# It was Clare who came up with the silly
# number of $141 to ship a single cabbage 200 miles.

She also supplied the rate chart from which it was derived

# And I'm the foolish one?

Actually you are

# All I did was point out it's obviously BS

And obviously you were wrong
But then armchair Monday Morning quarterbacks usually are.

# and that he based it in part on shipping a pallet of cabbages.
# The shipping rate he posted is less for smaller loads.
# So, yes, the produce shipper would package them
# in smaller packages. The one head at a time was a
# sarcastic exageration, which was obviously too much
# for you to compute. You swallowed the $141 BS, quite
# nicely though.
#

The difference between you and people who have actually been up there is
that you are ignorant

#
# So, you're actually with Clare that it costs $141 to
# ship one head of cabbage 200 miles. * Is that what you
# saw when you were there? * That cabbage costs more
# than $141 a head? *Boy, you really are stupid.

How could I be stupid after you have cornered the market for stupid ?
But to get back to your stupid post

The original info was:
* * ++ InnCanada, First Air, flying from Resolute to Arctic Bay,1-10KG is
* * ++ $40/kg11-15Kg is $50/Kg, 16-20 is $67/kg, 21-25 is $83/kg, all the
way
* * ++ up to 41-44KG at $141/kg.
* * ++
* * ++ So, you get a pallet of cabbage, weighing 35KG into Resolute and want
* * ++ to ship it to Arctic Bay, it will cost you $3990 to ship it. Say each
* * ++ cabbage weighs 1Kg (2.2 lbs) the cost per cabbage is $141.
* * ++

I notice that you have NEITHER challenged that shipping rates provided or
the calculations derived
That is THE ONLY WAY, you can prove that the estimate of $141 per cabbage
for 35 1kg cabbages would be $141 per cabbage

So, instead of just yammering like a stupid fool suffering from verbal
diarhea, feel free to demonstrate that the rate data provided is wrong.

That is what the transporter CHARGES to ship stuff up there
Notice also that you forget to include the costs of shipping to Resolute,
which by the way is NOT FREE eitther.

Fool, even per the rate table, it would cost $40 to ship a
cabbage just 200 miles, not the $141 that Clare came up with and you
bought in to. I had to tell the both of you that IF those rates
are real, then the obvious thing to do is ship them one
cabbage at a time. One cabbage weighs 1kg. So, it
costs $40. Are you that stupid?

As for not including the shipping to Resolute, again fool,
I didn't come up with the example. It was Clare that came up with
the example and chose looking at the cost of that
shipment from Resolute to Arctic Bay.





But it is funny to see you spin and pontificate to cover for your
ignorance.

If as you claim the service could be provided cheaper, you would have some
guy in a plane flying crates of cabbages up there and making a fortune

Well, obviously someone is, fool. *Or do you still believe
that cabbages sell for $141+ due to shipping costs?

Moving of goalposts noted

No, just a good dose of reality. BTW, who says those shipping
costs are the costs that a volume shipper of goods actually pays?
That there are not substantial discounts? That those posted
rates are for the walk-in guy who sends one or two packages
a year? You and Clare have heard of volume discounts, right?

And on top of all that, the point of my jab at HomeLessGuy from
Canada was that if goods like a cabbage were selling for $16
anywhere in the USA, for whatever reason, he'd be bitching and
using it as an obvious defect and serious problem in the USA.
That part of the whole thing went right over your pointed little
head.

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On Dec 9, 9:47 am, " Attila Iskander"
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On Dec 8, 6:12 pm, " Attila Iskander"
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On Dec 8, 12:58 pm, wrote:

On Sat, 08 Dec 2012 08:56:45 -0500, George
wrote:

On 12/7/2012 6:17 PM, wrote:
On Dec 7, 5:43 pm, Oren wrote:
On Fri, 7 Dec 2012 16:22:53 -0600, " Attila Iskander"

wrote:
Best country in the world - and goofs like you staying away
will
help
keep it that way.

Arguable point about "best country in the world"
And Canada has it's share of "goofs".

_$28 cabbage, $65 chicken, and other insane food prices in
Northern
Canada _

"...It’s not just food, either — necessary sundries like diapers
and
sanitary napkins are also outrageously expensive."

http://grist.org/list/28-cabbage-65-chicken-and-other-insane-food-pri...

Good find, my friend. Where's HomelessGuy when you need him?
According to him, why everything is peachy keen up there in
Canada
with a perfect economy and bad
stuff only happens in the USA. At least here peppers and cabbage
don't cost $15 a pound.

Not disputing troubled "home guy" but how much do you suppose it
adds
to
the cost of a crate of produce if you load it on an airplane with 5
other crates and fly it 1,000 miles into the most distant of the
Northwest territories?

Rom Northern Air Cargo
website:http://www.nacargo.com/shipping/rates.php

The formula to calculate total charges is weight x /lb. rate x
current
fuel surcharge x tax = total

For example: a 72 lb. widget from Anchorage to Bethel would be
charged
as follows;

72 lb. x .74 (rate) = $53.28
$53.28 x 12% (fuel*) = $59.67
$59.67 x 6.25% (tax) = $63.40 total charges

Effective Date: January 01, 2011

That is AMERICAN North on scheduled flights.

InnCanada, First Air, flying from Resolute to Arctic Bay,1-10KG is
$40/kg11-15Kg is $50/Kg, 16-20 is $67/kg, 21-25 is $83/kg, all the
way
up to 41-44KG at $141/kg.

So, you get a pallet of cabbage, weighing 35KG into Resolute and
want
to ship it to Arctic Bay, it will cost you $3990 to ship it. Say
each
cabbage weighs 1Kg (2.2 lbs) the cost per cabbage is $141.

#
# Are you so dumb that you really think it costs $141 to
# ship a head of cabbage?
#
# Per your shipping rates above, why would you put it onto
# a pallet. The heavier the weight, the more you're saying they
# charge you PER KG. So, send it one cabbage at a time
# and it will cost a lot less.

Yup
I can just see a grocer individually wrapping and shipping cabbages
separately
And you are foolish enough to imagine that the cargo service will not
start
charging a minimum ?

#
# A grocer doesn't wrap up cabbages, the produce
# supplier does.

Redirection noted and ignored

# It was Clare who came up with the silly
# number of $141 to ship a single cabbage 200 miles.

She also supplied the rate chart from which it was derived

# And I'm the foolish one?

Actually you are

# All I did was point out it's obviously BS

And obviously you were wrong
But then armchair Monday Morning quarterbacks usually are.

# and that he based it in part on shipping a pallet of cabbages.
# The shipping rate he posted is less for smaller loads.
# So, yes, the produce shipper would package them
# in smaller packages. The one head at a time was a
# sarcastic exageration, which was obviously too much
# for you to compute. You swallowed the $141 BS, quite
# nicely though.
#

The difference between you and people who have actually been up there is
that you are ignorant

#
# So, you're actually with Clare that it costs $141 to
# ship one head of cabbage 200 miles. Is that what you
# saw when you were there? That cabbage costs more
# than $141 a head? Boy, you really are stupid.

How could I be stupid after you have cornered the market for stupid ?
But to get back to your stupid post

The original info was:
++ InnCanada, First Air, flying from Resolute to Arctic Bay,1-10KG is
++ $40/kg11-15Kg is $50/Kg, 16-20 is $67/kg, 21-25 is $83/kg, all the
way
++ up to 41-44KG at $141/kg.
++
++ So, you get a pallet of cabbage, weighing 35KG into Resolute and want
++ to ship it to Arctic Bay, it will cost you $3990 to ship it. Say each
++ cabbage weighs 1Kg (2.2 lbs) the cost per cabbage is $141.
++

I notice that you have NEITHER challenged that shipping rates provided or
the calculations derived
That is THE ONLY WAY, you can prove that the estimate of $141 per cabbage
for 35 1kg cabbages would be $141 per cabbage

So, instead of just yammering like a stupid fool suffering from verbal
diarhea, feel free to demonstrate that the rate data provided is wrong.

That is what the transporter CHARGES to ship stuff up there
Notice also that you forget to include the costs of shipping to Resolute,
which by the way is NOT FREE eitther.
#
# Fool, even per the rate table, it would cost $40 to ship a
# cabbage just 200 miles, not the $141 that Clare came up with and you
# bought in to. I had to tell the both of you that IF those rates
# are real, then the obvious thing to do is ship them one
# cabbage at a time. One cabbage weighs 1kg. So, it
# costs $40. Are you that stupid?

I'm sorry that you can't follow a simple mathematical argument
Why don't you come back when you have learned how to do that instead of
just spouting ignorant drivel

#
# As for not including the shipping to Resolute, again fool,
# I didn't come up with the example. It was Clare that came up with
# the example and chose looking at the cost of that

And you have still to demonstrate it was false.
Come back when you can do that
shipment from Resolute to Arctic Bay.

But you know what
If everyone can shop their cabbage for $141 per and you figure out how to do
it for $40 per
YOu now have a potential profit of $100 per

Here's your chance to make a killing and become the Cabbage King of more
than Alt.home.repair
Good luck on your business venture.




But it is funny to see you spin and pontificate to cover for your
ignorance.

If as you claim the service could be provided cheaper, you would have
some
guy in a plane flying crates of cabbages up there and making a fortune

Well, obviously someone is, fool. Or do you still believe
that cabbages sell for $141+ due to shipping costs?

Moving of goalposts noted

No, just a good dose of reality. BTW, who says those shipping
costs are the costs that a volume shipper of goods actually pays?
That there are not substantial discounts? That those posted
rates are for the walk-in guy who sends one or two packages
a year? You and Clare have heard of volume discounts, right?

And on top of all that, the point of my jab at HomeLessGuy from
Canada was that if goods like a cabbage were selling for $16
anywhere in the USA, for whatever reason, he'd be bitching and
using it as an obvious defect and serious problem in the USA.
That part of the whole thing went right over your pointed little
head.

On Sun, 9 Dec 2012 08:47:27 -0600, " Attila Iskander"
wrote:


# It was Clare who came up with the silly
# number of $141 to ship a single cabbage 200 miles.

She also supplied the rate chart from which it was derived

HE actually.


# And I'm the foolish one?

wrote in message
...
On Sun, 9 Dec 2012 08:47:27 -0600, " Attila Iskander"
wrote:


# It was Clare who came up with the silly
# number of $141 to ship a single cabbage 200 miles.

She also supplied the rate chart from which it was derived

HE actually.


Oops
My apologies

On Sat, 08 Dec 2012 08:49:14 -0500, George
wrote:

On 12/8/2012 12:13 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 8 Dec 2012 05:03:48 GMT, wrote:




*ALL* do, it's just a matter of when in the process. I found that it
was quite early in the hiring process. Of course they ask again for
the I-9.


Of course, if hired they ask for it. They have to. No disputed that.


What changed? Identity theft and security of personal information. As
this became more of a problem, enlightened employers decided to change
their methods. Some states used to use your SS for your driver's
licence number also. It certainly seems an easy thing to do, but I
know at leas MA stopped doing it.

That's an entirely different issue.

No, that is why many places no longer ask for the SS and is why many
of us would not give it until needed.


It seems you missed the idea that the expert on everything knows more
than people who have actual experience doing stuff?

God, you're dumber than a stump!

Just remember kids, the only job that you don't need to prove your
citizenship is the POTUS. ;-)

On Mon, 10 Dec 2012 21:00:32 -0500, wrote:

No, that is why many places no longer ask for the SS and is why many
of us would not give it until needed.

No, it is *completely* different. Employers don't print it on your
business cards.

I seem to recall when stores would ask for a SSN when using checks.
Some folks would then have it printed on the checks to save a little
time at the register.

On Mon, 10 Dec 2012 08:47:03 -0800, Oren wrote:

On Mon, 10 Dec 2012 21:00:32 -0500, wrote:

No, that is why many places no longer ask for the SS and is why many
of us would not give it until needed.

No, it is *completely* different. Employers don't print it on your
business cards.

I seem to recall when stores would ask for a SSN when using checks.
Some folks would then have it printed on the checks to save a little
time at the register.

I did at one time. The campus check cashing service required it (it
was also the student ID number).

On Sat, 08 Dec 2012 00:13:10 -0500, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On 8 Dec 2012 05:03:48 GMT, wrote:




*ALL* do, it's just a matter of when in the process. I found that it
was quite early in the hiring process. Of course they ask again for
the I-9.


Of course, if hired they ask for it. They have to. No disputed that.

They also need it for pre-employment screening and such.

What changed? Identity theft and security of personal information. As
this became more of a problem, enlightened employers decided to change
their methods. Some states used to use your SS for your driver's
licence number also. It certainly seems an easy thing to do, but I
know at leas MA stopped doing it.

That's an entirely different issue.

No, that is why many places no longer ask for the SS and is why many
of us would not give it until needed.

No, it is *completely* different. Employers don't print it on your
business cards.

On Sat, 08 Dec 2012 06:24:49 -0800, Smitty Two
wrote:

In article ,
wrote:

On Thu, 06 Dec 2012 21:17:44 -0800, Smitty Two
wrote:

In article ,
wrote:

The *fact* is that employers do
want this information

G' ahead and be a pussy and give them what they want, then. I'll
continue to defend my rights to freedom and privacy.

Let me guess; you're unemployed.

No. I haven't been unemployed since I was 17. And since I own my own
successful business, I don't plan to ever apply for a job again in my
life.

So you freely admit that you haven't a clue what you're talking about.

Just hate the Orwellian nightmare that's unfolding. The
information you so freely give away, will be used by others to bite you
in the ****ing ass, hard. Have fun with that.

That's real irony, coming from a statist.