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Yesterday I was about to toss all the Plexi scraps I have because the paper
backing is stuck on so tight it can't be peeled off. I decided to try laquer thinner, assuming it was going to melt the plexiglass since they were headed for the trash anyway. I moistened a paper towel with it, place it on the paper backing and a few minutes later it had softened the backing enough so that I could peel it free (with a bit of work - the scraps are probably 25 years old). The Plexiglas appears to be completely unharmed by the solvent, which really surprised me. I thought would cloud it or melt it. I am now going to try to figure out the best way to scale up the process to get the backing off some very large sheets of 1/4" stuff. If anyone's interested I'll post the brand of laquer thinner and the type of Plexiglas it's working on. I know I have some Lexan scraps mixed in, so it may only work on certain types of Plexi. -- Bobby G. |
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"Robert Green" wrote in news:k8332m$uuk$1@dont-
email.me: Yesterday I was about to toss all the Plexi scraps I have because the paper backing is stuck on so tight it can't be peeled off. I decided to try laquer thinner, assuming it was going to melt the plexiglass since they were headed for the trash anyway. I moistened a paper towel with it, place it on the paper backing and a few minutes later it had softened the backing enough so that I could peel it free (with a bit of work - the scraps are probably 25 years old). Have you tried a heat gun? |
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On 11/15/2012 9:05 AM, Doug Miller wrote:
"Robert Green" wrote in news:k8332m$uuk$1@dont- email.me: Yesterday I was about to toss all the Plexi scraps I have because the paper backing is stuck on so tight it can't be peeled off. I decided to try laquer thinner, assuming it was going to melt the plexiglass since they were headed for the trash anyway. I moistened a paper towel with it, place it on the paper backing and a few minutes later it had softened the backing enough so that I could peel it free (with a bit of work - the scraps are probably 25 years old). Have you tried a heat gun? wouldn't it be tricky to not melt the plexi too? i know acetone will fog plexi, and ammonia products can lead to microfractures. |
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chaniarts wrote:
On 11/15/2012 9:05 AM, Doug Miller wrote: "Robert Green" wrote in news:k8332m$uuk$1@dont- email.me: Yesterday I was about to toss all the Plexi scraps I have because the paper backing is stuck on so tight it can't be peeled off. I decided to try laquer thinner, assuming it was going to melt the plexiglass since they were headed for the trash anyway. I moistened a paper towel with it, place it on the paper backing and a few minutes later it had softened the backing enough so that I could peel it free (with a bit of work - the scraps are probably 25 years old). Have you tried a heat gun? wouldn't it be tricky to not melt the plexi too? i know acetone will fog plexi, and ammonia products can lead to microfractures. Perhaps the lacquer thing was a matter of timing. Don't use alcohol. Greg |
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"gregz" wrote in message
news:1485578554374695403.015126zekor- stuff snipped i know acetone will fog plexi, and ammonia products can lead to microfractures. Perhaps the lacquer thing was a matter of timing. Don't use alcohol. This 25 year old backing paper laughed at acetone, alcohol, turpentine, hot water, ammonia and more. Nothing softened the paper or seemed to penetrate. I was pretty shocked to see the backing peel away and the Plexi not be melted by the LT. -- Bobby G. |
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"chaniarts" wrote in message
... On 11/15/2012 9:05 AM, Doug Miller wrote: "Robert Green" wrote in news:k8332m$uuk$1@dont- email.me: Yesterday I was about to toss all the Plexi scraps I have because the paper backing is stuck on so tight it can't be peeled off. I decided to try laquer thinner, assuming it was going to melt the plexiglass since they were headed for the trash anyway. I moistened a paper towel with it, place it on the paper backing and a few minutes later it had softened the backing enough so that I could peel it free (with a bit of work - the scraps are probably 25 years old). Have you tried a heat gun? wouldn't it be tricky to not melt the plexi too? i know acetone will fog plexi, and ammonia products can lead to microfractures. I was very suprised to see that the plexi wasn't immediately melted. Laquer thinner seems to have that effect on most other plastics it comes it contact with. I'll take my camera downstairs to take some pictures. I used the lacquer thinner since I was about to toss the scraps and figured what the heck. Not sure how the technique will work on the big 4 foot sheets I have. I am thinking of some felt pads soaked with LT and then covered by aluminum foil to retard evaporation. Once it soaks through (and NOTHING else I have tried soaked through before) the backing gets gooey and (mostly) peels off. -- Bobby G. |
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chaniarts wrote in :
On 11/15/2012 9:05 AM, Doug Miller wrote: "Robert Green" wrote in news:k8332m$uuk$1@dont- email.me: Yesterday I was about to toss all the Plexi scraps I have because the paper backing is stuck on so tight it can't be peeled off. I decided to try laquer thinner, assuming it was going to melt the plexiglass since they were headed for the trash anyway. I moistened a paper towel with it, place it on the paper backing and a few minutes later it had softened the backing enough so that I could peel it free (with a bit of work - the scraps are probably 25 years old). Have you tried a heat gun? wouldn't it be tricky to not melt the plexi too? Depends on how careful you are, I guess. It works for me. |
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I tried Goo gone ,goof off , WD 40, and other chemicals ,cleaners .NONE worked like just using a pressure washer from harbor freight tools. or just go to a car wash and use the hot wax setting .
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On Tuesday, June 8, 2021 at 2:15:08 PM UTC-4, bob wrote:
I tried Goo gone ,goof off , WD 40, and other chemicals ,cleaners .NONE worked like just using a pressure washer from harbor freight tools. or just go to a car wash and use the hot wax setting . The best adhesive remover known to man: https://www.amazon.com/Ronson-Ounces.../dp/B088KS53NL Soaks through paper labels and gets right to the adhesive. If the label is water resistant, just lift a corner and let the fluid seep underneath. Peel back slowly as the adhesive dissolves. Some water resistant labels can be delaminated. The plastic outer layer can be removed with a pair of tweezers, leaving the paper behind. Soak the paper with the lighter fluid and remove it as the adhesive dissolves. I have removed literally thousands of labels over time and nothing works better than good old Ronsonol. |
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![]() On Tue, 8 Jun 2021 13:18:25 -0700 (PDT), Marilyn Manson posted for all of us to digest... On Tuesday, June 8, 2021 at 2:15:08 PM UTC-4, bob wrote: I tried Goo gone ,goof off , WD 40, and other chemicals ,cleaners .NONE worked like just using a pressure washer from harbor freight tools. or just go to a car wash and use the hot wax setting . The best adhesive remover known to man: https://www.amazon.com/Ronson-Ounces.../dp/B088KS53NL Soaks through paper labels and gets right to the adhesive. If the label is water resistant, just lift a corner and let the fluid seep underneath. Peel back slowly as the adhesive dissolves. Some water resistant labels can be delaminated. The plastic outer layer can be removed with a pair of tweezers, leaving the paper behind. Soak the paper with the lighter fluid and remove it as the adhesive dissolves. I have removed literally thousands of labels over time and nothing works better than good old Ronsonol. +1 -- Tekkie |
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![]() "Doug Miller" wrote in message . .. "Robert Green" wrote in news:k8332m$uuk$1@dont- email.me: Yesterday I was about to toss all the Plexi scraps I have because the paper backing is stuck on so tight it can't be peeled off. I decided to try laquer thinner, assuming it was going to melt the plexiglass since they were headed for the trash anyway. I moistened a paper towel with it, place it on the paper backing and a few minutes later it had softened the backing enough so that I could peel it free (with a bit of work - the scraps are probably 25 years old). Have you tried a heat gun? I tried everything. The heat gun doesn't seem to soften the backing but it does warp the plastic. Has it worked for you? Maybe there's a difference in heat output or technique. -- Bobby G. |
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![]() Robert Green wrote: Yesterday I was about to toss all the Plexi scraps I have because the paper backing is stuck on so tight it can't be peeled off. I decided to try laquer thinner, assuming it was going to melt the plexiglass since they were headed for the trash anyway. I moistened a paper towel with it, place it on the paper backing and a few minutes later it had softened the backing enough so that I could peel it free (with a bit of work - the scraps are probably 25 years old). The Plexiglas appears to be completely unharmed by the solvent, which really surprised me. I thought would cloud it or melt it. I am now going to try to figure out the best way to scale up the process to get the backing off some very large sheets of 1/4" stuff. If anyone's interested I'll post the brand of laquer thinner and the type of Plexiglas it's working on. I know I have some Lexan scraps mixed in, so it may only work on certain types of Plexi. -- Bobby G. There is a Chem-Peel product specifically for that purpose that is available from plastics suppliers. The laquer thinner may not cause immediately visible damage, it can appear days later. |
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"Pete C." wrote in message
.com... Robert Green wrote: Yesterday I was about to toss all the Plexi scraps I have because the paper backing is stuck on so tight it can't be peeled off. I decided to try laquer thinner, assuming it was going to melt the plexiglass since they were headed for the trash anyway. I moistened a paper towel with it, place it on the paper backing and a few minutes later it had softened the backing enough so that I could peel it free (with a bit of work - the scraps are probably 25 years old). The Plexiglas appears to be completely unharmed by the solvent, which really surprised me. I thought would cloud it or melt it. I am now going to try to figure out the best way to scale up the process to get the backing off some very large sheets of 1/4" stuff. If anyone's interested I'll post the brand of laquer thinner and the type of Plexiglas it's working on. I know I have some Lexan scraps mixed in, so it may only work on certain types of Plexi. -- Bobby G. There is a Chem-Peel product specifically for that purpose that is available from plastics suppliers. The laquer thinner may not cause immediately visible damage, it can appear days later. I looked for that the last time I went through this. Couldn't find it. Some chemical facial peels at spas showed up in the search. Lots of differing opinions how to do this, lots of different types of plastic, some resistance to LT, some not. One hint for large sheets came out of that search: "To get the old paper off and even the new in large sheets we use a broom stick and two strong guys with big fore arms. You start peeling back the edge of the paper and then wrap it around the broom stick or other stick and start rolling it. Be carefull not the let it tear. this works great and when you are all done throw out the stick. We have also added wood clamps on the end of the stick to make it easier to roll up. We use a chemical called Bestine it is the best for removing gummy, sticky materials. It is used in the sign industry." http://www.practicalmachinist.com/vb...iglass-194671/ Found a post by you from the long ago past, too: (-: http://www.homegardenguides.com/gard...r-backing.html Chem-peel - Specifically designed for that purpose and works very well without harming the plex. I got mine from a plastic supply house, imagine you'd have to do the same as it was clearly not a consumer product. Seem to recall it was made by something like "Ogden Labs" in Utah. Pete C. Thanks for your input, Pete. -- Bobby G. |
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On 11/15/2012 10:44 AM, Robert Green wrote:
Yesterday I was about to toss all the Plexi scraps I have because the paper backing is stuck on so tight it can't be peeled off. I decided to try laquer thinner, assuming it was going to melt the plexiglass since they were headed for the trash anyway. I moistened a paper towel with it, place it on the paper backing and a few minutes later it had softened the backing enough so that I could peel it free (with a bit of work - the scraps are probably 25 years old). The Plexiglas appears to be completely unharmed by the solvent, which really surprised me. I thought would cloud it or melt it. I am now going to try to figure out the best way to scale up the process to get the backing off some very large sheets of 1/4" stuff. If anyone's interested I'll post the brand of laquer thinner and the type of Plexiglas it's working on. I know I have some Lexan scraps mixed in, so it may only work on certain types of Plexi. -- Bobby G. Polymethylmethacrylate is susceptible to most solvents. I know you can use 15% isopropanol in water to safely clean it. |
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On 11-15-2012 10:44, Robert Green wrote:
Yesterday I was about to toss all the Plexi scraps I have because the paper backing is stuck on so tight it can't be peeled off. I decided to try laquer thinner, assuming it was going to melt the plexiglass since they were I haven't tried it on plexiglas, but I've often put stubborn glues in the dishwasher. Have yet to find anything that leaves even a trace after one cycle. Of course I also haven't tried it on anything subject to water damage. Also in the dishwasher: I bought a used computer which worked fine except that the keyboard must have been used for years to protect the table cloth from syrup and grease drippings. Dishwasher fixed that, too. Typing on it now. (You do have to drain them well and give them a few days to dry completely before plugging them in.) -- Wes Groleau Is it an on-line compliment to call someone a Net Wit ? |
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On Thursday, November 15, 2012 10:51:51 AM UTC-5, Robert Green wrote:
Yesterday I was about to toss all the Plexi scraps I have because the paper backing is stuck on so tight it can't be peeled off. I decided to try laquer thinner, assuming it was going to melt the plexiglass since they were headed for the trash anyway. I moistened a paper towel with it, place it on the paper backing and a few minutes later it had softened the backing enough so that I could peel it free (with a bit of work - the scraps are probably 25 years old). The Plexiglas appears to be completely unharmed by the solvent, which really surprised me. I thought would cloud it or melt it. I am now going to try to figure out the best way to scale up the process to get the backing off some very large sheets of 1/4" stuff. If anyone's interested I'll post the brand of laquer thinner and the type of Plexiglas it's working on. I know I have some Lexan scraps mixed in, so it may only work on certain types of Plexi. -- Bobby G. I use "Quick 'n Easy" Specialty Adhesive Remover by AUTOTECH. This stuff is awesome. Just spray it on and let it soak in to the paper, then carefully peel it off. Wet a shop rag with the spray and wipe away the residual adhesive. It doesn't melt the plexiglass! Old deteriorated plexiglass with paper that's been sitting in the corner for a few years...no problem http://www.autotechmfg.com/products.html John. |
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I use Naptha as a general purpose solvent, it doesn't seem to do anything to Plexiglas.
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On Thursday, November 15, 2012 at 5:51:51 PM UTC+2, Robert Green wrote:
Yesterday I was about to toss all the Plexi scraps I have because the paper backing is stuck on so tight it can't be peeled off. I decided to try laquer thinner, assuming it was going to melt the plexiglass since they were headed for the trash anyway. I moistened a paper towel with it, place it on the paper backing and a few minutes later it had softened the backing enough so that I could peel it free (with a bit of work - the scraps are probably 25 years old). The Plexiglas appears to be completely unharmed by the solvent, which really surprised me. I thought would cloud it or melt it. I am now going to try to figure out the best way to scale up the process to get the backing off some very large sheets of 1/4" stuff. If anyone's interested I'll post the brand of laquer thinner and the type of Plexiglas it's working on. I know I have some Lexan scraps mixed in, so it may only work on certain types of Plexi. -- Bobby G. Hi Bobby, May you please advise of the brand of laquer thinner to use. I have very large sheets which I intend to use. Thanks Godfrey |
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On 1/20/2015 8:45 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 1/20/2015 8:22 AM, wrote: On Thursday, November 15, 2012 at 5:51:51 PM UTC+2, Robert Green wrote: Yesterday I was about to toss all the Plexi scraps I have because the paper backing is stuck on so tight it can't be peeled off. I decided to try laquer thinner, assuming it was going to melt the plexiglass since they were headed for the trash anyway. I moistened a paper towel with it, place it on the paper backing and a few minutes later it had softened the backing enough so that I could peel it free (with a bit of work - the scraps are probably 25 years old). The Plexiglas appears to be completely unharmed by the solvent, which really surprised me. I thought would cloud it or melt it. I am now going to try to figure out the best way to scale up the process to get the backing off some very large sheets of 1/4" stuff. If anyone's interested I'll post the brand of laquer thinner and the type of Plexiglas it's working on. I know I have some Lexan scraps mixed in, so it may only work on certain types of Plexi. -- Bobby G. Hi Bobby, May you please advise of the brand of laquer thinner to use. I have very large sheets which I intend to use. Thanks Godfrey Brand matters little. In years past, they were all ketone based, MEK, and worked pretty much that same. New air standards have changed the formula and most have soy methyl esters, ethylene glycol and stuff but most are similar. If the OP used a can that was a few years old, the formula has changed. Exactly! Buy some damn lacquer thinner, try it on a small area and see what happens. It either works or it doesn't. If it crazes the acrylic sheet you then know that it doesn't work. If it doesn't craze it and doesn't remove the paper are you any the worse off? |
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On 2015-01-21, Unquestionably Confused wrote:
Exactly! Buy some damn lacquer thinner, try it on a small area and see what happens. It either works or it doesn't. If it crazes the acrylic sheet you then know that it doesn't work. If it doesn't craze it and doesn't remove the paper are you any the worse off? I usta work at a US govt lab. We hadda lotta plexiglass and some was pretty old. The old paper backing in those days (80s) was near impossible to get off, after a certain age. We had a lotta solvents, etc, and tried 'em all. Stoddard's solvent (wht spirits) worked the best, but still required mucho elbo grease. Even worse!! ....plain ol' masking tape on stainless steel, baked on for 2 mos in the CA Summer sun. Sorry! No solvents work. Jes a lotta guys with razor blade scrappers, also in the hot CA sun. I've got some plexiglass from True Value. Now, seems to be covered with a see-thru plastic film cover. Comes right off on a piece that's 2 yrs old. Thank-you, whoever you are! ![]() nb |
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On 1/20/2015 8:22 AM, wrote:
On Thursday, November 15, 2012 at 5:51:51 PM UTC+2, Robert Green wrote: Hi Bobby, May you please advise of the brand of laquer thinner to use. I have very large sheets which I intend to use. Thanks Godfrey Nov 2012. Wonder if he's still reading the usenet list? - .. Christopher A. Young learn more about Jesus .. www.lds.org .. .. |
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On Thursday, November 15, 2012 at 9:51:51 AM UTC-6, Robert Green wrote:
Yesterday I was about to toss all the Plexi scraps I have because the paper backing is stuck on so tight it can't be peeled off. I decided to try laquer thinner, assuming it was going to melt the plexiglass since they were headed for the trash anyway. I moistened a paper towel with it, place it on the paper backing and a few minutes later it had softened the backing enough so that I could peel it free (with a bit of work - the scraps are probably 25 years old). The Plexiglas appears to be completely unharmed by the solvent, which really surprised me. I thought would cloud it or melt it. I am now going to try to figure out the best way to scale up the process to get the backing off some very large sheets of 1/4" stuff. If anyone's interested I'll post the brand of laquer thinner and the type of Plexiglas it's working on. I know I have some Lexan scraps mixed in, so it may only work on certain types of Plexi. -- Bobby G. Naptha softens/dissolves most backing glues for me. |
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replying to Robert Green, John wrote:
It actually works. Soak paper with lacquer thinner Allow to soak for 10 minutes then test peel. If not lifting, add another wipe of thinner. When paper lifts, peel back slowly and repeat till the end. Wipe off excess glue with thinner rag as you go....thank you so much... Cheers John -- posted from http://www.homeownershub.com/mainten...as-721896-.htm |
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On 2016-06-25, John wrote:
replying to Robert Green, John wrote: It actually works. Soak paper with lacquer thinner Allow to soak for 10 minutes then test peel. If not lifting, add another wipe of thinner. When paper lifts, peel back slowly and repeat till the end. Wipe off excess glue with thinner rag as you go....thank you so much... I'm not gonna dispute John's post, as I do not know what they are doing, now. But, waay back, we had some really old Plexiglass w/ some kinda brn paper protecting the surface. Couldn't get it off. Tried everything and we hadda buncha choices. This at a govt lab that could get any solvent on the planet. We finally settled on Stodard's (mineral) solvent. Still, this was many yrs ago. The last sheet of Plexiglass I bought had some sorta "clear" covering. Heck, it's peeling off on its own. nb |
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Well read thru everyone's posts I'm having the same problems here's what I learned ....
The paper laminate ply is latex in my circumstance no Chem peel and ironically, there's no adhesive . the paper/ latex is rolled onto the acrylic sheet a creates a static adhesive that shrinks when cool My experiment will be to use a new car buffer pad and plexiglass cleaner as a medium Other than that its taken two people and six hours to manually remove the paper and now the latex .... One has contemplated harri marry while the other creates suggestions in the middle of the day ling project one has also considered melting the plexi and latex with carb choke cleaner as a last resort toward the frustration this causes ... However I think the buffer plexi cleaner hot water will work |
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Well read thru everyone's posts I'm having the same problems here's what I learned ....
The paper laminate ply is latex in my circumstance no Chem peel and ironically, there's no adhesive . the paper/ latex is rolled onto the acrylic sheet a creates a static adhesive that shrinks when cool My experiment will be to use a new car buffer pad and plexiglass cleaner as a medium Other than that its taken two people and six hours to manually remove the paper and now the latex .... One has contemplated harri marry while the other creates suggestions in the middle of the day ling project one has also considered melting the plexi and latex with carb choke cleaner as a last resort toward the frustration this causes ... However I think the buffer plexi cleaner hot water will work |
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Well read thru everyone's posts I'm having the same problems here's what I learned ....
The paper laminate ply is latex in my circumstance no Chem peel and ironically, there's no adhesive . the paper/ latex is rolled onto the acrylic sheet a creates a static adhesive that shrinks when cool My experiment will be to use a new car buffer pad and plexiglass cleaner as a medium Other than that its taken two people and six hours to manually remove the paper and now the latex .... One has contemplated harri marry while the other creates suggestions in the middle of the day ling project one has also considered melting the plexi and latex with carb choke cleaner as a last resort toward the frustration this causes ... However I think the buffer plexi cleaner hot water will work |
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Well read thru everyone's posts I'm having the same problems here's what I learned ....
The paper laminate ply is latex in my circumstance no Chem peel and ironically, there's no adhesive . the paper/ latex is rolled onto the acrylic sheet a creates a static adhesive that shrinks when cool My experiment will be to use a new car buffer pad and plexiglass cleaner as a medium Other than that its taken two people and six hours to manually remove the paper and now the latex .... One has contemplated harri marry while the other creates suggestions in the middle of the day ling project one has also considered melting the plexi and latex with carb choke cleaner as a last resort toward the frustration this causes ... However I think the buffer plexi cleaner hot water will work |
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Well read thru everyone's posts I'm having the same problems here's what I learned ....
The paper laminate ply is latex in my circumstance no Chem peel and ironically, there's no adhesive . the paper/ latex is rolled onto the acrylic sheet a creates a static adhesive that shrinks when cool My experiment will be to use a new car buffer pad and plexiglass cleaner as a medium Other than that its taken two people and six hours to manually remove the paper and now the latex .... One has contemplated harri marry while the other creates suggestions in the middle of the day ling project one has also considered melting the plexi and latex with carb choke cleaner as a last resort toward the frustration this causes ... However I think the buffer plexi cleaner hot water will work |
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Well read thru everyone's posts I'm having the same problems here's what I learned ....
The paper laminate ply is latex in my circumstance no Chem peel and ironically, there's no adhesive . the paper/ latex is rolled onto the acrylic sheet a creates a static adhesive that shrinks when cool My experiment will be to use a new car buffer pad and plexiglass cleaner as a medium Other than that its taken two people and six hours to manually remove the paper and now the latex .... One has contemplated harri marry while the other creates suggestions in the middle of the day ling project one has also considered melting the plexi and latex with carb choke cleaner as a last resort toward the frustration this causes ... However I think the buffer plexi cleaner hot water will work |
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replying to Robert Green, Lou Delach wrote:
I just heard a solution of water and Oxi-clean will work. Soak the parts and labels should come off glass and plastic. I haven't tried it yet, but was just about to try this. -- for full context, visit https://www.homeownershub.com/mainte...as-721896-.htm |
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