I'm planning to tile a kitchen/dining room area. When I removed the
existing vinyl, it didn't come up clean. There is a layer of paper that
is firmly attached to the .25" plywood with gummy adhesive.
Any idea's on how to get the surface clean? Do I need to get down to
the plywood, or can I tile right over the remainder of this paper
backing? I have a few places where I'll be leveling the floor, but for
the most part, it's level and solid. Thanks, LLS

lls8000 wrote:
I'm planning to tile a kitchen/dining room area. When I removed the
existing vinyl, it didn't come up clean. There is a layer of paper that
is firmly attached to the .25" plywood with gummy adhesive.
Any idea's on how to get the surface clean? Do I need to get down to
the plywood, or can I tile right over the remainder of this paper
backing? I have a few places where I'll be leveling the floor, but for
the most part, it's level and solid. Thanks, LLS

I'd take up the 1/4" plywood and lay down backer board before tiling.
The kitchen is usually the highest traffic area in the house and any
weakness in the installation will lead to broken tile and PIA repairs.

R

also have ready: what type of construction, and where are your moisture
concerns.

see manufacturers website regarding installation:
http://www.armstrong.com/home/us/en/

general info 52 pages of general info at:
http://www.buildingscience.com/resou...r_Renovate.pdf

You don't say what kind of tile you are putting back down. Most people
here think ceramic when you say just tile.

If its vinyl then the floor has to be absolutely smooth. You may be able to
put ceramic down, but we would need more info.


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I'm planning to tile a kitchen/dining room area. When I removed the
existing vinyl, it didn't come up clean. There is a layer of paper that
is firmly attached to the .25" plywood with gummy adhesive.
Any idea's on how to get the surface clean? Do I need to get down to
the plywood, or can I tile right over the remainder of this paper
backing? I have a few places where I'll be leveling the floor, but for
the most part, it's level and solid. Thanks, LLS

Someone writes:
"The long answer is that plywood is an acceptable substrate for
tile........"

Only exterior grade, or CDX plywood is acceptable for
tile.
Since the poster is removing vinyl from 1/4" plywood, it's
probably smooth, thin plywood that is traditionally used
under vinyl, and is the wrong type to receive tile.
Other backerboards would be a better choice in a kitchen

As has been said, you need 1 1/4" of solidly glued
and screwed subfloor if you want a long lasting job.

I've seen many DIY'ers tile over that thin smooth plywood
and it doesn't last. Generally too it's not bonded very
well over the subfloor, as it doesn't need to be for vinyl.

thetiler