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Keeping door latches from freezing
Have you ever found some sort of spray or grease that will keep stuff
from freezing? We got rain yesterday, and a deep freeze right afterwards. Last night both push button door handles on my F-150 truck were frozen. The push botton door latch on the house storm door and a slide bolt on my toolshed door was also frozen. Anyhow, have any of you ever found anything that will keep stuff like that from freezing? I was wondering about silicone spray? Maybe vaseline on the slide bolt, but that wont work on the truck? Any other ideas? |
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On Mon, 12 Nov 2012 15:42:24 -0600, wrote:
Any other ideas? Sure. Stop nym-shifting. |
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wrote in message ... Have you ever found some sort of spray or grease that will keep stuff from freezing? We got rain yesterday, and a deep freeze right afterwards. Last night both push button door handles on my F-150 truck were frozen. The push botton door latch on the house storm door and a slide bolt on my toolshed door was also frozen. Anyhow, have any of you ever found anything that will keep stuff like that from freezing? I was wondering about silicone spray? Maybe vaseline on the slide bolt, but that wont work on the truck? Any other ideas? ***** Try this http://lmgtfy.com/?q=stop+car+locks+from+freezing |
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Have you ever found some sort of spray or grease that will keep stuff from freezing? We got rain yesterday, and a deep freeze right afterwards. Last night both push button door handles on my F-150 truck were frozen. The push botton door latch on the house storm door and a slide bolt on my toolshed door was also frozen. Anyhow, have any of you ever found anything that will keep stuff like that from freezing? I was wondering about silicone spray? Maybe vaseline on the slide bolt, but that wont work on the truck? Any other ideas? WD -40 Bic Spray antifreeze, don't get on paint, I think. My one boss used to free the lock mechanism with bic. I use silicone on the rubber window runners. Greg |
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One trick someone suggested is:
Hold the key in a flame till it is quite hot, then stick it into the frozen lock. I used to own a car in a place where it got cold enough to try that. I remember that it worked, but I can't remember whether it _always_ worked. -- Wes Groleau "What progress we are making! In the Middle Ages, they would have burnt me; nowadays they are content with burning my books. Sigmund Freud, 1933 "He was never to know that even that was only an illusory progress, that ten years later they would have burned his body as well. Ernest Jones, 1953 |
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What I do is just keep plenty of methanol (also called "methyl hydrate") on hand along with suitable applicators to get the alcohol into the space where it's needed. Methyl hydrate dissolves ice.
Most often, when a lock freezes, what's happened is that capillary pressure has drawn water into the tiny gaps around the tumblers and around the lock cylinder. When that water freezes, it prevents the tumbers from moving up and down and the cylinder from turning, so even if you can get your key in, you can't rotate the cylinder to unlock the car door. By having some methanol available in a spray bottle or squeeze bottle designed to fit into a keyway, you can squirt methanol into the lock to dissolve the ice. Once you do that, the lock will work normally. Methyl hydrate evaporates completely without leaving a residue. PS: Never use an oil or a grease in a lock. Airborne dirt and dust will stick to the oil and grease, causing that lubricant to gum up the operation of the lock. It's best to use graphite powder in locks because airborne dirt and dust won't stick to graphite. The "dry graphite" aerosol sprays you buy at hardware stores for lubricating locks and light machinery are so named because they use a propellant that evaporates completely, leaving behind only the dry graphite powder. Last edited by nestork : November 13th 12 at 05:50 AM |
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On Tue, 13 Nov 2012 04:27:03 +0000 (UTC), gregz
wrote: wrote: Have you ever found some sort of spray or grease that will keep stuff from freezing? We got rain yesterday, and a deep freeze right afterwards. Last night both push button door handles on my F-150 truck were frozen. The push botton door latch on the house storm door and a slide bolt on my toolshed door was also frozen. Anyhow, have any of you ever found anything that will keep stuff like that from freezing? I was wondering about silicone spray? Maybe vaseline on the slide bolt, but that wont work on the truck? Any other ideas? WD -40 Bic Spray antifreeze, don't get on paint, I think. My one boss used to free the lock mechanism with bic. I use silicone on the rubber window runners. Greg WD-40 will evaporate real fast. I dont see that working for any length of time. What is BIC? I've used silicone spray on the rubber gaskets around a car door. It does help to keep the door from freeing to the gasket. I have not found anything to work on the metal door buttons or latches yet. I plan to get another can of silicone and try it as soon as I buy one, unless someone on here has a better solution. |
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I've not known of graphite to be a water displacer.
Is there article on the web that describes this? Send URL? Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "Tony Hwang" wrote in message ... Hmm, Graphite spray. |
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On Nov 13, 7:44*am, willshak wrote:
wrote the following on 11/13/2012 2:26 AM (ET): On Tue, 13 Nov 2012 04:27:03 +0000 (UTC), gregz wrote: wrote: Have you ever found some sort of spray or grease that will keep stuff from freezing? *We got rain yesterday, and a deep freeze right afterwards. *Last night both push button door handles on my F-150 truck were frozen. *The push botton door latch on the house storm door and a slide bolt on my toolshed door was also frozen. Anyhow, have any of you ever found anything that will keep stuff like that from freezing? *I was wondering about silicone spray? *Maybe vaseline on the slide bolt, but that wont work on the truck? *Any other ideas? WD -40 Bic Spray antifreeze, don't get on paint, I think. My one boss used to free the lock mechanism with bic. I use silicone on the rubber window runners. Greg WD-40 will evaporate real fast. *I dont see that working for any length of time. What is BIC? Cigarette lighter? I've used silicone spray on the rubber gaskets around a car door. *It does help to keep the door from freeing to the gasket. *I have not found anything to work on the metal door buttons or latches yet. *I plan to get another can of silicone and try it as soon as I buy one, unless someone on here has a better solution. -- Bill In Hamptonburgh, NY In the original Orange County. Est. 1683 To email, remove the double zeros after @- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - BIC is a manufacturer of a cigarette lighter. The suggestions was to use a BIC to heat up the key, so that when inserted into the lock, the heat would transfer to the lock causing it to thaw out. If you don't have a cigarette lighter, you can also use a propane torch, a welding torch or any other device that produces a controlable flame. |
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On Tue, 13 Nov 2012 08:57:22 -0800 (PST), rlz wrote:
BIC is a manufacturer of a cigarette lighter. The suggestions was to use a BIC to heat up the key, so that when inserted into the lock, the heat would transfer to the lock causing it to thaw out. If you don't have a cigarette lighter, you can also use a propane torch, a welding torch or any other device that produces a controlable flame. Ok, I knew about those lighters, but thought the guy was referring to some spray or something like a lubricant. In my case, there is no key. Just the push buttons on the truck door, nad slide bolt on the shed and house screen door. Another thing to mention is that most of the time when these things freeze, it's during severe weather, which means wind. Goodluck trying to use a cig lighter in wind. A propane torch would work better, but I'd not want to use that on the slide bolt which is screwed to flammable wood. Even if the wood is not set on fire, the paint will be ruined, and minutes later the latch will be frozen again. Since I open my toolshed often in winter, and that slide bolt keeps freezing, I'll just have to find some other way to latch the door. Till then, I keep and old hammer next to the door (outside) to pound it loose when it freezes. That's a pain in the ass to do when it's freezing cold. |
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I've seen people cut some plastic (from a milk jug?), or rubber from inner
tube. Staple or nail that over the bolt. That keeps the rain off the bolt. Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. wrote in message ... Since I open my toolshed often in winter, and that slide bolt keeps freezing, I'll just have to find some other way to latch the door. Till then, I keep and old hammer next to the door (outside) to pound it loose when it freezes. That's a pain in the ass to do when it's freezing cold. |
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On Tue, 13 Nov 2012 17:30:38 -0500, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote: I've seen people cut some plastic (from a milk jug?), or rubber from inner tube. Staple or nail that over the bolt. That keeps the rain off the bolt. Christopher A. Young Not a bad idea, in fact I like it..... |
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Seems to work for old time country folk.
Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. wrote in message ... On Tue, 13 Nov 2012 17:30:38 -0500, "Stormin Mormon" wrote: I've seen people cut some plastic (from a milk jug?), or rubber from inner tube. Staple or nail that over the bolt. That keeps the rain off the bolt. Christopher A. Young Not a bad idea, in fact I like it..... |
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On 11/14/2012 4:31 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 13 Nov 2012 17:30:38 -0500, "Stormin Mormon" wrote: I've seen people cut some plastic (from a milk jug?), or rubber from inner tube. Staple or nail that over the bolt. That keeps the rain off the bolt. Christopher A. Young Not a bad idea, in fact I like it..... Whenever I wonder about how to cope with problems due to very cold weather, I always look at what the Russians in Siberia do to cope. ^_^ http://rbth.ru/articles/2012/01/04/s...now_14073.html http://tinyurl.com/c7lebrh TDD |
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The article says the only way to regulate the indoor temp is by opening
windows. To my way of thinking, if they covered parts of the radiators, it would reduce the heat input into the room. The heat would go back to the plant, and reduce the fuel consumption. Uncover as more heat is needed. Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "The Daring Dufas" wrote in message ... Whenever I wonder about how to cope with problems due to very cold weather, I always look at what the Russians in Siberia do to cope. ^_^ http://rbth.ru/articles/2012/01/04/s...now_14073.html http://tinyurl.com/c7lebrh TDD |
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Keeping fat boy from freezing
Maybe that's the secret. I need a fur coat,a nd to blubber more?
(blubbering) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3y6gmt97J4g Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "The Daring Dufas" wrote in message ... Whenever I wonder about how to cope with problems due to very cold weather, I always look at what the Russians in Siberia do to cope. ^_^ http://rbth.ru/articles/2012/01/04/s...now_14073.html http://tinyurl.com/c7lebrh TDD |
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wrote in message ... Have you ever found some sort of spray or grease that will keep stuff from freezing? We got rain yesterday, and a deep freeze right afterwards. Last night both push button door handles on my F-150 truck were frozen. The push botton door latch on the house storm door and a slide bolt on my toolshed door was also frozen. Anyhow, have any of you ever found anything that will keep stuff like that from freezing? I was wondering about silicone spray? Maybe vaseline on the slide bolt, but that wont work on the truck? Any other ideas? For key holes use a commercial prepared lubricant designed to keep water out, and make sure the little flap over the key hole is working, it won't freeze if you keep the water out. For push buttons, use a white grease around the button and work it in, again to keep water out so it won't freeze. Freezing rain will still build up over the button (and the key hole) making it difficult to use, but there is nothing you can do about it, other than keeping water from entering and freezing inside the mechanism. |
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Born In Covenant. (Mormon term.)
Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "Tony Hwang" wrote in message ... HeyBub wrote: wrote: What is BIC? A cigarette lighter Or ball pen. |
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"Stormin Mormon" wrote:
The article says the only way to regulate the indoor temp is by opening windows. To my way of thinking, if they covered parts of the radiators, it would reduce the heat input into the room. The heat would go back to the plant, and reduce the fuel consumption. Uncover as more heat is needed. Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org . "The Daring Dufas" wrote in message ... Whenever I wonder about how to cope with problems due to very cold weather, I always look at what the Russians in Siberia do to cope. ^_^ http://rbth.ru/articles/2012/01/04/s...now_14073.html http://tinyurl.com/c7lebrh TDD Please explain the physics behind the heat returning to the plant if the radiator is partially covered. First tell us what kind of radiators they have and how you would cover them to accomplish your goal. |
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Physics: If the circulating water is in insulated tube like the delivery
system, the water retains the heat, rather than radiating it. If the water is in uninsulated metal such as a radiator, the heat radiates. If the radiator is insulated, the heat stays in the water, and the returning water is hotter, and needs less heating. I've not been to Russia, and don't know the details. The article also didn't say. I'm guessing it's water circulation. Cast iron radiators. And, to "turn down the heat" would be to partly cover the radiators with something like fiberglass insulation, or a blanket. Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "DerbyDad03" wrote in message ... "Stormin Mormon" wrote: The article says the only way to regulate the indoor temp is by opening windows. To my way of thinking, if they covered parts of the radiators, it would reduce the heat input into the room. The heat would go back to the plant, and reduce the fuel consumption. Uncover as more heat is needed. Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org . http://rbth.ru/articles/2012/01/04/s...now_14073.html http://tinyurl.com/c7lebrh TDD Please explain the physics behind the heat returning to the plant if the radiator is partially covered. First tell us what kind of radiators they have and how you would cover them to accomplish your goal. |
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On Nov 15, 8:38*am, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote: Physics: If the circulating water is in insulated tube like the delivery system, the water retains the heat, rather than radiating it. If the water is in uninsulated metal *such as a radiator, the heat radiates. If the radiator is insulated, the heat stays in the water, and the returning water is hotter, and needs less heating. I've not been to Russia, and don't know the details. The article also didn't say. I'm guessing it's water circulation. Cast iron radiators. And, to "turn down the heat" would be to partly cover the radiators with something like fiberglass insulation, or a blanket. Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus *www.lds.org . "DerbyDad03" wrote in message ... "Stormin Mormon" wrote: The article says the only way to regulate the indoor temp is by opening windows. To my way of thinking, if they covered parts of the radiators, it would reduce the heat input into the room. The heat would go back to the plant, and reduce the fuel consumption. Uncover as more heat is needed. Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus *www.lds.org . http://rbth.ru/articles/2012/01/04/s...now_14073.html http://tinyurl.com/c7lebrh TDD Please explain the physics behind the heat returning to the plant if the radiator is partially covered. First tell us what kind of radiators they have and how you would cover them to accomplish your goal.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - So let's say you and I live in the same building. Just my family and yours for the sake of the discussion. My radiators are before yours in the system. I decide to cover 1/2 of my radiators to keep the heat down. Wouldn't your apartment be hotter than before I covered my radiators? Based on your explanation - which I am not necessarily doubting - the water reaching your radiators would be hotter, therefore your radiators would radiate more heat, which would mean that you would have to cover more of your radiators than I did to maintain the same heat, right? Then the outside temperature goes down and I want more heat, so I uncover 1/2 of the 1/2 I had covered. Now the water reaching your radiators is cooler, so you need more heat for 2 reasons: 1, it's colder outside and 2, the water reaching your radiator is cooler because more of the heat is radiating into my apartment. Therefore you have to uncover more of your radiator. Now, extrapolate that out to 10 apartments or 50 or more. That seems like a lot of constant covering and uncovering to maintain a comfortable temperature in each apartment. Everytime someone makes a change, the whole building is affected. I think I'd stick with opening and closing windows which only impact single apartments, or even single rooms within each apartment. |
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On 11/15/2012 2:03 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Nov 15, 8:38 am, "Stormin Mormon" wrote: Physics: If the circulating water is in insulated tube like the delivery system, the water retains the heat, rather than radiating it. If the water is in uninsulated metal such as a radiator, the heat radiates. If the radiator is insulated, the heat stays in the water, and the returning water is hotter, and needs less heating. I've not been to Russia, and don't know the details. The article also didn't say. I'm guessing it's water circulation. Cast iron radiators. And, to "turn down the heat" would be to partly cover the radiators with something like fiberglass insulation, or a blanket. Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org . "DerbyDad03" wrote in message ... "Stormin Mormon" wrote: The article says the only way to regulate the indoor temp is by opening windows. To my way of thinking, if they covered parts of the radiators, it would reduce the heat input into the room. The heat would go back to the plant, and reduce the fuel consumption. Uncover as more heat is needed. Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org . http://rbth.ru/articles/2012/01/04/s...now_14073.html http://tinyurl.com/c7lebrh TDD Please explain the physics behind the heat returning to the plant if the radiator is partially covered. First tell us what kind of radiators they have and how you would cover them to accomplish your goal.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - So let's say you and I live in the same building. Just my family and yours for the sake of the discussion. My radiators are before yours in the system. I decide to cover 1/2 of my radiators to keep the heat down. Wouldn't your apartment be hotter than before I covered my radiators? Based on your explanation - which I am not necessarily doubting - the water reaching your radiators would be hotter, therefore your radiators would radiate more heat, which would mean that you would have to cover more of your radiators than I did to maintain the same heat, right? Then the outside temperature goes down and I want more heat, so I uncover 1/2 of the 1/2 I had covered. Now the water reaching your radiators is cooler, so you need more heat for 2 reasons: 1, it's colder outside and 2, the water reaching your radiator is cooler because more of the heat is radiating into my apartment. Therefore you have to uncover more of your radiator. Now, extrapolate that out to 10 apartments or 50 or more. That seems like a lot of constant covering and uncovering to maintain a comfortable temperature in each apartment. Everytime someone makes a change, the whole building is affected. I think I'd stick with opening and closing windows which only impact single apartments, or even single rooms within each apartment. multiple loops. they're not all on the same loop. your example doesn't hold up. |
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Lets say you're in apartment building with a lot of units. You're in the
first apartment. You want the room colder, so you open the window. The room now has colder air, so there is greater delta T from the room to the radiator. The radiator loses heat faster, and cools to a lower temp (lower room temp) so the next guy gets colder water. And, the water going back to the heating plant is colder, also. So they use more fuel. See? Opening windows does at least two bad things. One of which is to cool the water that the later apartments need. Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "DerbyDad03" wrote in message ... So let's say you and I live in the same building. Just my family and yours for the sake of the discussion. My radiators are before yours in the system. I decide to cover 1/2 of my radiators to keep the heat down. Wouldn't your apartment be hotter than before I covered my radiators? Based on your explanation - which I am not necessarily doubting - the water reaching your radiators would be hotter, therefore your radiators would radiate more heat, which would mean that you would have to cover more of your radiators than I did to maintain the same heat, right? Then the outside temperature goes down and I want more heat, so I uncover 1/2 of the 1/2 I had covered. Now the water reaching your radiators is cooler, so you need more heat for 2 reasons: 1, it's colder outside and 2, the water reaching your radiator is cooler because more of the heat is radiating into my apartment. Therefore you have to uncover more of your radiator. Now, extrapolate that out to 10 apartments or 50 or more. That seems like a lot of constant covering and uncovering to maintain a comfortable temperature in each apartment. Everytime someone makes a change, the whole building is affected. I think I'd stick with opening and closing windows which only impact single apartments, or even single rooms within each apartment. |
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Opening windows requires more fuel at the plant, regardless of the number of
loops. Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "chaniarts" wrote in message ... On 11/15/2012 2:03 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote: I think I'd stick with opening and closing windows which only impact single apartments, or even single rooms within each apartment. multiple loops. they're not all on the same loop. your example doesn't hold up. |
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Opening windows requires more fuel at the plant, regardless of the number of
loops. Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "chaniarts" wrote in message ... On 11/15/2012 2:03 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote: I think I'd stick with opening and closing windows which only impact single apartments, or even single rooms within each apartment. multiple loops. they're not all on the same loop. your example doesn't hold up. |
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"DerbyDad03" wrote in message
... So let's say you and I live in the same building. Just my family and yours for the sake of the discussion. My radiators are before yours in the system. I decide to cover 1/2 of my radiators to keep the heat down. Wouldn't your apartment be hotter than before I covered my radiators? CY:Yep. Based on your explanation - which I am not necessarily doubting - the water reaching your radiators would be hotter, therefore your radiators would radiate more heat, which would mean that you would have to cover more of your radiators than I did to maintain the same heat, right? CY: Yep. Then the outside temperature goes down and I want more heat, so I uncover 1/2 of the 1/2 I had covered. Now the water reaching your radiators is cooler, so you need more heat for 2 reasons: 1, it's colder outside and 2, the water reaching your radiator is cooler because more of the heat is radiating into my apartment. Therefore you have to uncover more of your radiator. CY: True. Now, extrapolate that out to 10 apartments or 50 or more. That seems like a lot of constant covering and uncovering to maintain a comfortable temperature in each apartment. Everytime someone makes a change, the whole building is affected. CY: Yes, very possible. I think I'd stick with opening and closing windows which only impact single apartments, or even single rooms within each apartment. CY: If covering radiators affects other apartments, do you think that super cooling the rads by exposing them to outdoor air will affect other apartments? I enjoy this technical discussion, and hope we can bounce the ideas back and forth. Pong! Coming your way.... |
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"Stormin Mormon" wrote in
: Lets say you're in apartment building with a lot of units. You're in the first apartment. You want the room colder, so you open the window. The room now has colder air, so there is greater delta T from the room to the radiator. The radiator loses heat faster, and cools to a lower temp (lower room temp) so the next guy gets colder water. And, the water going back to the heating plant is colder, also. So they use more fuel. See? Opening windows does at least two bad things. One of which is to cool the water that the later apartments need. This assumes there is 1 continous loop. Highly unlikely, don't you think? Probably the loops are for individual units, from a main central loop. So your return (colder) water does NOT have to heat someone else's unit. But the same reasoning for covering the radiator rather than opening a window still holds - total heat loss is less, and so operation is more economical. -- Best regards Han email address is invalid |
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Han wrote:
"Stormin Mormon" wrote in : Lets say you're in apartment building with a lot of units. You're in the first apartment. You want the room colder, so you open the window. The room now has colder air, so there is greater delta T from the room to the radiator. The radiator loses heat faster, and cools to a lower temp (lower room temp) so the next guy gets colder water. And, the water going back to the heating plant is colder, also. So they use more fuel. See? Opening windows does at least two bad things. One of which is to cool the water that the later apartments need. This assumes there is 1 continous loop. Highly unlikely, don't you think? Probably the loops are for individual units, from a main central loop. So your return (colder) water does NOT have to heat someone else's unit. But the same reasoning for covering the radiator rather than opening a window still holds - total heat loss is less, and so operation is more economical. So what are they missing in Siberia? Why are they still opening windows and not issuing radiator covers to all comrades? Maybe someone in the politburo should subscribe to usenet and start reading a.h.r. |
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Keeping Siberian homes from freezing
DerbyDad03 wrote in
: Han wrote: "Stormin Mormon" wrote in : Lets say you're in apartment building with a lot of units. You're in the first apartment. You want the room colder, so you open the window. The room now has colder air, so there is greater delta T from the room to the radiator. The radiator loses heat faster, and cools to a lower temp (lower room temp) so the next guy gets colder water. And, the water going back to the heating plant is colder, also. So they use more fuel. See? Opening windows does at least two bad things. One of which is to cool the water that the later apartments need. This assumes there is 1 continous loop. Highly unlikely, don't you think? Probably the loops are for individual units, from a main central loop. So your return (colder) water does NOT have to heat someone else's unit. But the same reasoning for covering the radiator rather than opening a window still holds - total heat loss is less, and so operation is more economical. So what are they missing in Siberia? Why are they still opening windows and not issuing radiator covers to all comrades? Maybe someone in the politburo should subscribe to usenet and start reading a.h.r. I hope you aren't literally asking me to asnwer that question grin. Perhaps it is because such a steam(?)-powered system is very efficient and cheap to operate (there are systems like that in other places too, such as parts of NY City). Perhaps it is there, and the fuel is rather cheap (Russia is an oil- and gas-exporting country, big time). -- Best regards Han email address is invalid |
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Keeping Siberian homes from freezing
Now, extrapolate that out to 10 apartments or 50 or more. That seems like a lot of constant covering and uncovering to maintain a comfortable temperature in each apartment. Everytime someone makes a change, the whole building is affected. I think I'd stick with opening and closing windows which only impact single apartments, or even single rooms within each apartment. multiple loops. they're not all on the same loop. your example doesn't hold up. Even if they were, the example assumes (1) the tenants care about other tenants and (2) they have half a clue about the effect of their actions. -- Wes Groleau Missing a train is only painful if you run after it! Nassim Nicholas Taleb |
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Simple way to prevent latches from freezing is to apply Petroleum jelly or Vaseline.
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Keeping Siberian homes from freezing
Wes Groleau wrote:
Now, extrapolate that out to 10 apartments or 50 or more. That seems like a lot of constant covering and uncovering to maintain a comfortable temperature in each apartment. Everytime someone makes a change, the whole building is affected. I think I'd stick with opening and closing windows which only impact single apartments, or even single rooms within each apartment. multiple loops. they're not all on the same loop. your example doesn't hold up. Even if they were, the example assumes (1) the tenants care about other tenants and (2) they have half a clue about the effect of their actions. The example makes no such assumption. It discusses nothing more than cause and effect. |
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