[Number 28 makes this post on-topic]

Texans will never say...:

31. When I retire, I'm movin' north.

30. Oh I just couldn't, she's only sixteen.

29. I'll take Shakespeare for 1000, Alex.

28. Duct tape won't fix that.

27. Come to think of it, I'll have a Heineken

26. We don't keep firearms in this house.

25. You can't feed that to the dog!

24. No kids in the back of the pickup, it's just not safe.

23. Wrestling is fake.

22. We're vegetarians.

21. Do you think my gut is too big?

20. I'll have grapefruit and grapes instead of biscuits and gravy.

19. Honey, we don't need another dog.

18. Who gives a damn who won the Civil War?

17. Give me the small bag of pork rinds.

16. Too many deer heads detract from the decor.

15. I just couldn't find a thing at Wal-Mart today.

14. Trim the fat off that steak.

13. Cappuccino tastes better than espresso.

12. The tires on that truck are too big.

11. I've got it all on the C: DRIVE.

10. Unsweetened tea tastes better.

9. My fiancé, Bobbie Jo, is registered at Tiffany's.

8. I've got two cases of Zima for the Super Bowl.

7. Checkmate

6. She's too young to be wearing a bikini.

5. Hey, here's an episode of "Dukes of Hazard" that we haven't seen.

4. I don't have a favorite college team.

3. You Guys.

2. Those shorts ought to be a little longer, Betty Mae.

AND THE NUMBER ONE THING THAT YOU WILL NEVER HEAR A SOUTHERN BOY SAY:

1. Nope, no more beer for me. I'm driving a whole busload of us down to
re-elect OBAMA!

1. Nope, no more beer for me. I'm driving a whole busload of
us down to re-elect OBAMA!


Well of course they would be drinking beer on their way down to
re-elect President Obama!

On Dec 1, 1:14*am, "HeyBub" wrote:
[Number 28 makes this post on-topic]

Texans will never say...:

31. When I retire, I'm movin' north.

30. Oh I just couldn't, she's only sixteen.

29. I'll take Shakespeare for 1000, Alex.

28. Duct tape won't fix that.

27. Come to think of it, I'll have a Heineken

26. We don't keep firearms in this house.

25. You can't feed that to the dog!

24. No kids in the back of the pickup, it's just not safe.

23. Wrestling is fake.

22. We're vegetarians.

21. Do you think my gut is too big?

20. I'll have grapefruit and grapes instead of biscuits and gravy.

19. Honey, we don't need another dog.

18. Who gives a damn who won the Civil War?

17. Give me the small bag of pork rinds.

16. Too many deer heads detract from the decor.

15. I just couldn't find a thing at Wal-Mart today.

14. Trim the fat off that steak.

13. Cappuccino tastes better than espresso.

12. The tires on that truck are too big.

11. I've got it all on the C: DRIVE.

10. Unsweetened tea tastes better.

9. My fiancé, Bobbie Jo, is registered at Tiffany's.

8. I've got two cases of Zima for the Super Bowl.

7. Checkmate

6. She's too young to be wearing a bikini.

5. Hey, here's an episode of "Dukes of Hazard" that we haven't seen.

4. I don't have a favorite college team.

3. You Guys.

2. Those shorts ought to be a little longer, Betty Mae.

AND THE NUMBER ONE THING THAT YOU WILL NEVER HEAR A SOUTHERN BOY SAY:

1. Nope, no more beer for me. I'm driving a whole busload of us down to
re-elect OBAMA!

Best post yet heybub. I take it you are fromTexas?

You might add, "I never employ illlegals to do work about the house."

harry wrote:

Best post yet heybub. I take it you are fromTexas?

Yep. For many generations. I had a great-grandfather who fought on the
Confederate side during the recent unplesantness.

That's not to say I'm parochial; I've been all over the world and parts of
south Georgia. I'm continually surprised at local customs:
* In Milwaukee, the serve beer chasers with cocktails
* In New York, distance is measured in minutes of travel at a fast walk
("It's three minutes that way").
* Hamburgers are served in the UK, but they're made of lamb and have
cucumbers instead of tomato.

And others are somewhat surprised at Texas facts:
* El Paso is closer to California than it is to Houston.
* Houston is closer to Florida than it is to El Paso.
* At 700,000 sq km, Texas is 5 times larger than England, and a bit larger
than France.
* I live in the largest city in the nation (maybe the world) with no zoning.

On Dec 1, 1:43*pm, "HeyBub" wrote:
harry wrote:

Best post yet heybub. I take it you are fromTexas?

Yep. For many generations. I had a great-grandfather who fought on the
Confederate side during the recent unplesantness.

That's not to say I'm parochial; I've been all over the world and parts of
south Georgia. I'm continually surprised at local customs:
* In Milwaukee, the serve beer chasers with cocktails
* In New York, distance is measured in minutes of travel at a fast walk
("It's three minutes that way").
* Hamburgers are served in the UK, but they're made of lamb and have
cucumbers instead of tomato.

And others are somewhat surprised at Texas facts:
* El Paso is closer to California than it is to Houston.
* Houston is closer to Florida than it is to El Paso.
* At 700,000 sq km, Texas is 5 times larger than England, and a bit larger
than France.
* I live in the largest city in the nation (maybe the world) with no zoning.

Zoning????

On Dec 1, 1:43*pm, "HeyBub" wrote:
harry wrote:

Best post yet heybub. I take it you are fromTexas?

Yep. For many generations. I had a great-grandfather who fought on the
Confederate side during the recent unplesantness.

That's not to say I'm parochial; I've been all over the world and parts of
south Georgia. I'm continually surprised at local customs:
* In Milwaukee, the serve beer chasers with cocktails
* In New York, distance is measured in minutes of travel at a fast walk
("It's three minutes that way").
* Hamburgers are served in the UK, but they're made of lamb and have
cucumbers instead of tomato.

And others are somewhat surprised at Texas facts:
* El Paso is closer to California than it is to Houston.
* Houston is closer to Florida than it is to El Paso.
* At 700,000 sq km, Texas is 5 times larger than England, and a bit larger
than France.
* I live in the largest city in the nation (maybe the world) with no zoning.

Another one. That car/automobile is too big/powerful.

On Dec 1, 3:26*am, harry wrote:
On Dec 1, 1:14*am, "HeyBub" wrote:





[Number 28 makes this post on-topic]

Texans will never say...:

31. When I retire, I'm movin' north.

30. Oh I just couldn't, she's only sixteen.

29. I'll take Shakespeare for 1000, Alex.

28. Duct tape won't fix that.

27. Come to think of it, I'll have a Heineken

26. We don't keep firearms in this house.

25. You can't feed that to the dog!

24. No kids in the back of the pickup, it's just not safe.

23. Wrestling is fake.

22. We're vegetarians.

21. Do you think my gut is too big?

20. I'll have grapefruit and grapes instead of biscuits and gravy.

19. Honey, we don't need another dog.

18. Who gives a damn who won the Civil War?

17. Give me the small bag of pork rinds.

16. Too many deer heads detract from the decor.

15. I just couldn't find a thing at Wal-Mart today.

14. Trim the fat off that steak.

13. Cappuccino tastes better than espresso.

12. The tires on that truck are too big.

11. I've got it all on the C: DRIVE.

10. Unsweetened tea tastes better.

9. My fiancé, Bobbie Jo, is registered at Tiffany's.

8. I've got two cases of Zima for the Super Bowl.

7. Checkmate

6. She's too young to be wearing a bikini.

5. Hey, here's an episode of "Dukes of Hazard" that we haven't seen.

4. I don't have a favorite college team.

3. You Guys.

2. Those shorts ought to be a little longer, Betty Mae.

AND THE NUMBER ONE THING THAT YOU WILL NEVER HEAR A SOUTHERN BOY SAY:

1. Nope, no more beer for me. I'm driving a whole busload of us down to
re-elect OBAMA!

Best post yet heybub. I take it you are fromTexas?

You might add, "I never employ illlegals to do work about the house."-

Nope, doesn't apply. I am a Texan and I made that statement several
years back. As a result, I have to do all of my own yard work and
work on the house since it's almost impossible to find anyone who
doesn't use illegals for those jobs.

On the other hand, I used to pay $35 a week to have my yard mowed and
trimmed. I now do it myself, do a better job, and it only takes me 30
minutes to do it. I don't mind making $70 an hour and the yard looks
great.

On Dec 1, 7:43*am, "HeyBub" wrote:
harry wrote:

Best post yet heybub. I take it you are fromTexas?

Yep. For many generations. I had a great-grandfather who fought on the
Confederate side during the recent unplesantness.

That's not to say I'm parochial; I've been all over the world and parts of
south Georgia. I'm continually surprised at local customs:
* In Milwaukee, the serve beer chasers with cocktails
* In New York, distance is measured in minutes of travel at a fast walk
("It's three minutes that way").
* Hamburgers are served in the UK, but they're made of lamb and have
cucumbers instead of tomato.

And others are somewhat surprised at Texas facts:
* El Paso is closer to California than it is to Houston.
* Houston is closer to Florida than it is to El Paso.
* At 700,000 sq km, Texas is 5 times larger than England, and a bit larger
than France.
* I live in the largest city in the nation (maybe the world) with no zoning.

I used to think that was a bad thing when I lived in Houston for over
30 years. Now, I live in the DFW area with all of it's stupid zoning
restrictions and have totally changed my mind.

"HeyBub" writes:

harry wrote:

Best post yet heybub. I take it you are fromTexas?

Yep. For many generations. I had a great-grandfather who fought on the
Confederate side during the recent unplesantness.

That's not to say I'm parochial; I've been all over the world and parts of
south Georgia. I'm continually surprised at local customs:
* In Milwaukee, the serve beer chasers with cocktails
* In New York, distance is measured in minutes of travel at a fast walk
("It's three minutes that way").
* Hamburgers are served in the UK, but they're made of lamb and have
cucumbers instead of tomato.

And others are somewhat surprised at Texas facts:
* El Paso is closer to California than it is to Houston.
* Houston is closer to Florida than it is to El Paso.
* At 700,000 sq km, Texas is 5 times larger than England, and a bit larger
than France.
* I live in the largest city in the nation (maybe the world) with no zoning.

Yeah, I noticed that on my visits to Houston.
You're driving through a residential neighborhood and you come to
some house decked out in Xmas lights and it has a sign that says
"Nude Dancing".

Well, that's one way to define freedom but probably not a good
way to protect property values.

The people were nice, but they felt free to call me Yankee Boy.

--
Dan Espen

On Dec 1, 10:50*am, BobR wrote:
On Dec 1, 3:26*am, harry wrote:





On Dec 1, 1:14*am, "HeyBub" wrote:

[Number 28 makes this post on-topic]

Texans will never say...:

31. When I retire, I'm movin' north.

30. Oh I just couldn't, she's only sixteen.

29. I'll take Shakespeare for 1000, Alex.

28. Duct tape won't fix that.

27. Come to think of it, I'll have a Heineken

26. We don't keep firearms in this house.

25. You can't feed that to the dog!

24. No kids in the back of the pickup, it's just not safe.

23. Wrestling is fake.

22. We're vegetarians.

21. Do you think my gut is too big?

20. I'll have grapefruit and grapes instead of biscuits and gravy.

19. Honey, we don't need another dog.

18. Who gives a damn who won the Civil War?

17. Give me the small bag of pork rinds.

16. Too many deer heads detract from the decor.

15. I just couldn't find a thing at Wal-Mart today.

14. Trim the fat off that steak.

13. Cappuccino tastes better than espresso.

12. The tires on that truck are too big.

11. I've got it all on the C: DRIVE.

10. Unsweetened tea tastes better.

9. My fiancé, Bobbie Jo, is registered at Tiffany's.

8. I've got two cases of Zima for the Super Bowl.

7. Checkmate

6. She's too young to be wearing a bikini.

5. Hey, here's an episode of "Dukes of Hazard" that we haven't seen.

4. I don't have a favorite college team.

3. You Guys.

2. Those shorts ought to be a little longer, Betty Mae.

AND THE NUMBER ONE THING THAT YOU WILL NEVER HEAR A SOUTHERN BOY SAY:

1. Nope, no more beer for me. I'm driving a whole busload of us down to
re-elect OBAMA!

Best post yet heybub. I take it you are fromTexas?

You might add, "I never employ illlegals to do work about the house."-

Nope, doesn't apply. *I am a Texan and I made that statement several
years back. *As a result, I have to do all of my own yard work and
work on the house since it's almost impossible to find anyone who
doesn't use illegals for those jobs.

On the other hand, I used to pay $35 a week to have my yard mowed and
trimmed. *I now do it myself, do a better job, and it only takes me 30
minutes to do it. *I don't mind making $70 an hour and the yard looks
great.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Even if that kind of math made sense, you're "making" $35 a week, not
$70 an hour.

But of course we all know that you aren't making one red cent.

wrote in message
...
On Thu, 1 Dec 2011 06:56:26 -0800 (PST), harry
wrote:

* I live in the largest city in the nation (maybe the world) with no
zoning.

Zoning????


AKA the government telling you what you are allowed to do with your
property.

You forgot the rest of the quote: "I live in the largest city in the nation
with no zoning and that 60 x 150 foot billboard in the next yard doesn't
look so bad if you just squint a bit."

On Dec 1, 1:13*pm, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Dec 1, 10:50*am, BobR wrote:





On Dec 1, 3:26*am, harry wrote:

On Dec 1, 1:14*am, "HeyBub" wrote:

[Number 28 makes this post on-topic]

Texans will never say...:

31. When I retire, I'm movin' north.

30. Oh I just couldn't, she's only sixteen.

29. I'll take Shakespeare for 1000, Alex.

28. Duct tape won't fix that.

27. Come to think of it, I'll have a Heineken

26. We don't keep firearms in this house.

25. You can't feed that to the dog!

24. No kids in the back of the pickup, it's just not safe.

23. Wrestling is fake.

22. We're vegetarians.

21. Do you think my gut is too big?

20. I'll have grapefruit and grapes instead of biscuits and gravy.

19. Honey, we don't need another dog.

18. Who gives a damn who won the Civil War?

17. Give me the small bag of pork rinds.

16. Too many deer heads detract from the decor.

15. I just couldn't find a thing at Wal-Mart today.

14. Trim the fat off that steak.

13. Cappuccino tastes better than espresso.

12. The tires on that truck are too big.

11. I've got it all on the C: DRIVE.

10. Unsweetened tea tastes better.

9. My fiancé, Bobbie Jo, is registered at Tiffany's.

8. I've got two cases of Zima for the Super Bowl.

7. Checkmate

6. She's too young to be wearing a bikini.

5. Hey, here's an episode of "Dukes of Hazard" that we haven't seen..

4. I don't have a favorite college team.

3. You Guys.

2. Those shorts ought to be a little longer, Betty Mae.

AND THE NUMBER ONE THING THAT YOU WILL NEVER HEAR A SOUTHERN BOY SAY:

1. Nope, no more beer for me. I'm driving a whole busload of us down to
re-elect OBAMA!

Best post yet heybub. I take it you are fromTexas?

You might add, "I never employ illlegals to do work about the house."-

Nope, doesn't apply. *I am a Texan and I made that statement several
years back. *As a result, I have to do all of my own yard work and
work on the house since it's almost impossible to find anyone who
doesn't use illegals for those jobs.

On the other hand, I used to pay $35 a week to have my yard mowed and
trimmed. *I now do it myself, do a better job, and it only takes me 30
minutes to do it. *I don't mind making $70 an hour and the yard looks
great.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Even if that kind of math made sense, you're "making" $35 a week, not
$70 an hour.

But of course we all know that you aren't making one red cent

I pay myself the $35 that I would have paid to someone else for 30
minutes work. The last time I used the calculator that came to $70
per hour of work. I never said that was my only income just that I
was making $70 an hour for doing my yard. What I still haven't
figured out is why the yard crew that used to do my yard took almost
45 minutes to do the job with two people.

As for not making one red cent....A penny saved is a penny earned.

wrote:

Yeah, I noticed that on my visits to Houston.
You're driving through a residential neighborhood and you come to
some house decked out in Xmas lights and it has a sign that says
"Nude Dancing".

Well, that's one way to define freedom but probably not a good
way to protect property values.


Years ago, Shell Oil bought a corner lot on the ritziest street in town. I'm
not kidding; in that neighborhood home prices started at several million,
and that was back when several million was a lot of money. Anyway, Shell
announced plans to erect a gas station with an attached unsanitary taco
stand.

The neighbors were incensed. They cut up their Shell credit cards and mailed
them to the company with nasty letters threatening all manner of undesirable
actions. Amongst the folks outraged were former governor John Connally and
Robert Mossbacher (at that time, the sitting Secretary of Commerce).

Shell reconsidered and donated the corner lot to the city for a pocket-park.

We, in lesser affluent neighborhoods, have more subdued methods of dealing
with those who offend our sensibilities. These methods usually involve
firearms in some fashion

On Dec 1, 4:35*pm, BobR wrote:
On Dec 1, 1:13*pm, DerbyDad03 wrote:





On Dec 1, 10:50*am, BobR wrote:

On Dec 1, 3:26*am, harry wrote:

On Dec 1, 1:14*am, "HeyBub" wrote:

[Number 28 makes this post on-topic]

Texans will never say...:

31. When I retire, I'm movin' north.

30. Oh I just couldn't, she's only sixteen.

29. I'll take Shakespeare for 1000, Alex.

28. Duct tape won't fix that.

27. Come to think of it, I'll have a Heineken

26. We don't keep firearms in this house.

25. You can't feed that to the dog!

24. No kids in the back of the pickup, it's just not safe.

23. Wrestling is fake.

22. We're vegetarians.

21. Do you think my gut is too big?

20. I'll have grapefruit and grapes instead of biscuits and gravy..

19. Honey, we don't need another dog.

18. Who gives a damn who won the Civil War?

17. Give me the small bag of pork rinds.

16. Too many deer heads detract from the decor.

15. I just couldn't find a thing at Wal-Mart today.

14. Trim the fat off that steak.

13. Cappuccino tastes better than espresso.

12. The tires on that truck are too big.

11. I've got it all on the C: DRIVE.

10. Unsweetened tea tastes better.

9. My fiancé, Bobbie Jo, is registered at Tiffany's.

8. I've got two cases of Zima for the Super Bowl.

7. Checkmate

6. She's too young to be wearing a bikini.

5. Hey, here's an episode of "Dukes of Hazard" that we haven't seen.

4. I don't have a favorite college team.

3. You Guys.

2. Those shorts ought to be a little longer, Betty Mae.

AND THE NUMBER ONE THING THAT YOU WILL NEVER HEAR A SOUTHERN BOY SAY:

1. Nope, no more beer for me. I'm driving a whole busload of us down to
re-elect OBAMA!

Best post yet heybub. I take it you are fromTexas?

You might add, "I never employ illlegals to do work about the house.."-

Nope, doesn't apply. *I am a Texan and I made that statement several
years back. *As a result, I have to do all of my own yard work and
work on the house since it's almost impossible to find anyone who
doesn't use illegals for those jobs.

On the other hand, I used to pay $35 a week to have my yard mowed and
trimmed. *I now do it myself, do a better job, and it only takes me 30
minutes to do it. *I don't mind making $70 an hour and the yard looks
great.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Even if that kind of math made sense, you're "making" $35 a week, not
$70 an hour.

But of course we all know that you aren't making one red cent

I pay myself the $35 that I would have paid to someone else for 30
minutes work. *The last time I used the calculator that came to $70
per hour of work. *I never said that was my only income just that I
was making $70 an hour for doing my yard. *What I still haven't
figured out is why the yard crew that used to do my yard took almost
45 minutes to do the job with two people.

As for not making one red cent....A penny saved is a penny earned.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Your total net worth just before cleaning your yard was $X.

What was your total net worth after you spent the 30 minutes cleaning
the yard?

If your net worth did not increase after cleaning your yard, you
didn't earn one red cent.

If your net worth did indeed increased by $35 after cleaning the yard,
please tell us where the money came from. There has to be a debit
someplace to offset the credit, unless you printed the money yourself.

In article ,
HeyBub wrote:

[Number 28 makes this post on-topic]

Texans will never say...:

31. When I retire, I'm movin' north.
...snipped etc....


You left out "I think he's innocent"

--
The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation
with the average voter. (Winston Churchill)

Larry Wasserman - Baltimore Maryland - lwasserm(a)sdf. lonestar. org

On Thu, 1 Dec 2011 14:10:54 -0800 (PST), DerbyDad03
wrote:

On Dec 1, 4:35Â*pm, BobR wrote:
On Dec 1, 1:13Â*pm, DerbyDad03 wrote:



I pay myself the $35 that I would have paid to someone else for 30
minutes work. Â*The last time I used the calculator that came to $70
per hour of work. Â*I never said that was my only income just that I
was making $70 an hour for doing my yard. Â*What I still haven't
figured out is why the yard crew that used to do my yard took almost
45 minutes to do the job with two people.

As for not making one red cent....A penny saved is a penny earned.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Your total net worth just before cleaning your yard was $X.


Too easy.
Start with $100 net worth.
Credit $35 to expense account for mowing.
Debit net worth account $35.
Net worth now $65.
Decide to spend 30 minutes doing the yard, or pay $35.

What was your total net worth after you spent the 30 minutes cleaning
the yard?


Have a glass of iced tea, then debit $35 in the expense account.
Credit net worth account $35
Mark in transaction memo "Mowing My Own Grass Earnings - non-taxable."
Net worth now $100.


If your net worth did not increase after cleaning your yard, you
didn't earn one red cent.

If your net worth did indeed increased by $35 after cleaning the yard,
please tell us where the money came from. There has to be a debit
someplace to offset the credit, unless you printed the money yourself.


Most peoples don't mess with the accounting.
They just know they got $35 richer and 1/2 hour poorer by doing the
job themselves.
And the $35 is real in the pocket money.

--Vic

"HeyBub" writes:

wrote:

Yeah, I noticed that on my visits to Houston.
You're driving through a residential neighborhood and you come to
some house decked out in Xmas lights and it has a sign that says
"Nude Dancing".

Well, that's one way to define freedom but probably not a good
way to protect property values.

We, in lesser affluent neighborhoods, have more subdued methods of dealing
with those who offend our sensibilities. These methods usually involve
firearms in some fashion

Yeah, I encountered a lot of that false bravado down in Texas.
I was down there fixing up a completely broken computer system and
the plant owner told us that if the system didn't work the way he
wanted, there could be gun play.

Up north we have a name for that kind of talk.
We call it idiocy.

Like I said, drive down a residential street and there is a whore house
sitting right in the middle of it. I learned something today.
The guy owning the whore house must have had more guns.


--
Dan Espen

On Dec 1, 4:10*pm, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Dec 1, 4:35*pm, BobR wrote:





On Dec 1, 1:13*pm, DerbyDad03 wrote:

On Dec 1, 10:50*am, BobR wrote:

On Dec 1, 3:26*am, harry wrote:

On Dec 1, 1:14*am, "HeyBub" wrote:

[Number 28 makes this post on-topic]

Texans will never say...:

31. When I retire, I'm movin' north.

30. Oh I just couldn't, she's only sixteen.

29. I'll take Shakespeare for 1000, Alex.

28. Duct tape won't fix that.

27. Come to think of it, I'll have a Heineken

26. We don't keep firearms in this house.

25. You can't feed that to the dog!

24. No kids in the back of the pickup, it's just not safe.

23. Wrestling is fake.

22. We're vegetarians.

21. Do you think my gut is too big?

20. I'll have grapefruit and grapes instead of biscuits and gravy.

19. Honey, we don't need another dog.

18. Who gives a damn who won the Civil War?

17. Give me the small bag of pork rinds.

16. Too many deer heads detract from the decor.

15. I just couldn't find a thing at Wal-Mart today.

14. Trim the fat off that steak.

13. Cappuccino tastes better than espresso.

12. The tires on that truck are too big.

11. I've got it all on the C: DRIVE.

10. Unsweetened tea tastes better.

9. My fiancé, Bobbie Jo, is registered at Tiffany's.

8. I've got two cases of Zima for the Super Bowl.

7. Checkmate

6. She's too young to be wearing a bikini.

5. Hey, here's an episode of "Dukes of Hazard" that we haven't seen.

4. I don't have a favorite college team.

3. You Guys.

2. Those shorts ought to be a little longer, Betty Mae.

AND THE NUMBER ONE THING THAT YOU WILL NEVER HEAR A SOUTHERN BOY SAY:

1. Nope, no more beer for me. I'm driving a whole busload of us down to
re-elect OBAMA!

Best post yet heybub. I take it you are fromTexas?

You might add, "I never employ illlegals to do work about the house."-

Nope, doesn't apply. *I am a Texan and I made that statement several
years back. *As a result, I have to do all of my own yard work and
work on the house since it's almost impossible to find anyone who
doesn't use illegals for those jobs.

On the other hand, I used to pay $35 a week to have my yard mowed and
trimmed. *I now do it myself, do a better job, and it only takes me 30
minutes to do it. *I don't mind making $70 an hour and the yard looks
great.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Even if that kind of math made sense, you're "making" $35 a week, not
$70 an hour.

But of course we all know that you aren't making one red cent

I pay myself the $35 that I would have paid to someone else for 30
minutes work. *The last time I used the calculator that came to $70
per hour of work. *I never said that was my only income just that I
was making $70 an hour for doing my yard. *What I still haven't
figured out is why the yard crew that used to do my yard took almost
45 minutes to do the job with two people.

As for not making one red cent....A penny saved is a penny earned.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Your total net worth just before cleaning your yard was $X.

What was your total net worth after you spent the 30 minutes cleaning
the yard?

If your net worth did not increase after cleaning your yard, you
didn't earn one red cent.

If your net worth did indeed increased by $35 after cleaning the yard,
please tell us where the money came from. There has to be a debit
someplace to offset the credit, unless you printed the money yourself

Had I paid an idiot like you to do my yard for me, then my net worth
would have been reduced by the $35.

$35 dollars saved is $35 dollars earned.

On Dec 1, 5:14*pm, Vic Smith wrote:
On Thu, 1 Dec 2011 14:10:54 -0800 (PST), DerbyDad03





wrote:
On Dec 1, 4:35*pm, BobR wrote:
On Dec 1, 1:13*pm, DerbyDad03 wrote:

I pay myself the $35 that I would have paid to someone else for 30
minutes work. *The last time I used the calculator that came to $70
per hour of work. *I never said that was my only income just that I
was making $70 an hour for doing my yard. *What I still haven't
figured out is why the yard crew that used to do my yard took almost
45 minutes to do the job with two people.

As for not making one red cent....A penny saved is a penny earned.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Your total net worth just before cleaning your yard was $X.

Too easy.
Start with $100 net worth.
Credit $35 to expense account for mowing.
Debit net worth account $35.
Net worth now $65.
Decide to spend 30 minutes doing the yard, or pay $35.

What was your total net worth after you spent the 30 minutes cleaning
the yard?

Have a glass of iced tea, then debit $35 in the expense account.
Credit net worth account $35
Mark in transaction memo "Mowing My Own Grass Earnings - non-taxable."
Net worth now $100.

If your net worth did not increase after cleaning your yard, you
didn't earn one red cent.

If your net worth did indeed increased by $35 after cleaning the yard,
please tell us where the money came from. There has to be a debit
someplace to offset the credit, unless you printed the money yourself.

Most peoples don't mess with the accounting.
They just know they got $35 richer and 1/2 hour poorer by doing the
job themselves.
And the $35 is real in the pocket money.

--Vic


When you consider that the grass is mowed and trimmed about 30+ times
per year that $35 becomes $1050 of real pocket money.

On Thu, 01 Dec 2011 18:22:04 -0500, wrote:

"HeyBub" writes:

wrote:

Yeah, I noticed that on my visits to Houston.
You're driving through a residential neighborhood and you come to
some house decked out in Xmas lights and it has a sign that says
"Nude Dancing".

Well, that's one way to define freedom but probably not a good
way to protect property values.

We, in lesser affluent neighborhoods, have more subdued methods of dealing
with those who offend our sensibilities. These methods usually involve
firearms in some fashion

Yeah, I encountered a lot of that false bravado down in Texas.
I was down there fixing up a completely broken computer system and
the plant owner told us that if the system didn't work the way he
wanted, there could be gun play.

Up north we have a name for that kind of talk.
We call it idiocy.

Like I said, drive down a residential street and there is a whore house
sitting right in the middle of it. I learned something today.
The guy owning the whore house must have had more guns.

The Mustang Ranch brothel moved from Texas to Nevada. After legal
problems the government took it over and tried to operate it.

They ****ed it up and lost money.

"..The Mustang Ranch, originally known as the Mustang Bridge Ranch, is
a brothel in Storey County, Nevada, about fifteen miles east of Reno.
It is currently located at 1011 Wild Horse Canyon Dr Sparks, NV
89434."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mustang_Ranch

Can't depend on the government, even when you need too.

In article ,
Oren wrote:



Can't depend on the government, even when you need too.

And you would think they would be very adept at screwing people (g)

--
People thought cybersex was a safe alternative,
until patients started presenting with sexually
acquired carpal tunnel syndrome.-Howard Berkowitz

BobR wrote:
On Dec 1, 4:10 pm, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Dec 1, 4:35 pm, BobR wrote:





On Dec 1, 1:13 pm, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Dec 1, 10:50 am, BobR wrote:
On Dec 1, 3:26 am, harry wrote:
On Dec 1, 1:14 am, "HeyBub" wrote:
[Number 28 makes this post on-topic]
Texans will never say...:
31. When I retire, I'm movin' north.
30. Oh I just couldn't, she's only sixteen.
29. I'll take Shakespeare for 1000, Alex.
28. Duct tape won't fix that.
27. Come to think of it, I'll have a Heineken
26. We don't keep firearms in this house.
25. You can't feed that to the dog!
24. No kids in the back of the pickup, it's just not safe.
23. Wrestling is fake.
22. We're vegetarians.
21. Do you think my gut is too big?
20. I'll have grapefruit and grapes instead of biscuits and gravy.
19. Honey, we don't need another dog.
18. Who gives a damn who won the Civil War?
17. Give me the small bag of pork rinds.
16. Too many deer heads detract from the decor.
15. I just couldn't find a thing at Wal-Mart today.
14. Trim the fat off that steak.
13. Cappuccino tastes better than espresso.
12. The tires on that truck are too big.
11. I've got it all on the C: DRIVE.
10. Unsweetened tea tastes better.
9. My fiancé, Bobbie Jo, is registered at Tiffany's.
8. I've got two cases of Zima for the Super Bowl.
7. Checkmate
6. She's too young to be wearing a bikini.
5. Hey, here's an episode of "Dukes of Hazard" that we haven't seen.
4. I don't have a favorite college team.
3. You Guys.
2. Those shorts ought to be a little longer, Betty Mae.
AND THE NUMBER ONE THING THAT YOU WILL NEVER HEAR A SOUTHERN BOY SAY:
1. Nope, no more beer for me. I'm driving a whole busload of us down to
re-elect OBAMA!
Best post yet heybub. I take it you are fromTexas?
You might add, "I never employ illlegals to do work about the house."-
Nope, doesn't apply. I am a Texan and I made that statement several
years back. As a result, I have to do all of my own yard work and
work on the house since it's almost impossible to find anyone who
doesn't use illegals for those jobs.
On the other hand, I used to pay $35 a week to have my yard mowed and
trimmed. I now do it myself, do a better job, and it only takes me 30
minutes to do it. I don't mind making $70 an hour and the yard looks
great.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Even if that kind of math made sense, you're "making" $35 a week, not
$70 an hour.
But of course we all know that you aren't making one red cent
I pay myself the $35 that I would have paid to someone else for 30
minutes work. The last time I used the calculator that came to $70
per hour of work. I never said that was my only income just that I
was making $70 an hour for doing my yard. What I still haven't
figured out is why the yard crew that used to do my yard took almost
45 minutes to do the job with two people.
As for not making one red cent....A penny saved is a penny earned.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Your total net worth just before cleaning your yard was $X.

What was your total net worth after you spent the 30 minutes cleaning
the yard?

If your net worth did not increase after cleaning your yard, you
didn't earn one red cent.

If your net worth did indeed increased by $35 after cleaning the yard,
please tell us where the money came from. There has to be a debit
someplace to offset the credit, unless you printed the money yourself

Had I paid an idiot like you to do my yard for me, then my net worth
would have been reduced by the $35.

$35 dollars saved is $35 dollars earned.

All this sounds good, 70 bucks an hour 560 bucks a day... 2800 bucks
for a 40 hour week pure profit. What could possibly go wrong with a
business plan like this?

On Thu, 01 Dec 2011 20:28:47 -0500, Kurt Ullman wrote:

In article ,
Oren wrote:



Can't depend on the government, even when you need too.

And you would think they would be very adept at screwing people (g)

The federal government owned the Mustang ranch (Government Whorehouse,
anyone?) but when it came to real screwing, they couldn't even get that right.
It ended up on eBay.

On Dec 1, 7:15*pm, BobR wrote:
On Dec 1, 5:14*pm, Vic Smith wrote:









On Thu, 1 Dec 2011 14:10:54 -0800 (PST), DerbyDad03

wrote:
On Dec 1, 4:35*pm, BobR wrote:
On Dec 1, 1:13*pm, DerbyDad03 wrote:

I pay myself the $35 that I would have paid to someone else for 30
minutes work. *The last time I used the calculator that came to $70
per hour of work. *I never said that was my only income just that I
was making $70 an hour for doing my yard. *What I still haven't
figured out is why the yard crew that used to do my yard took almost
45 minutes to do the job with two people.

As for not making one red cent....A penny saved is a penny earned.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Your total net worth just before cleaning your yard was $X.

Too easy.
Start with $100 net worth.
Credit $35 to expense account for mowing.
Debit net worth account $35.
Net worth now $65.
Decide to spend 30 minutes doing the yard, or pay $35.

What was your total net worth after you spent the 30 minutes cleaning
the yard?

Have a glass of iced tea, then debit $35 in the expense account.
Credit net worth account $35
Mark in transaction memo "Mowing My Own Grass Earnings - non-taxable."
Net worth now $100.

If your net worth did not increase after cleaning your yard, you
didn't earn one red cent.

If your net worth did indeed increased by $35 after cleaning the yard,
please tell us where the money came from. There has to be a debit
someplace to offset the credit, unless you printed the money yourself.

Most peoples don't mess with the accounting.
They just know they got $35 richer and 1/2 hour poorer by doing the
job themselves.
And the $35 is real in the pocket money.

--Vic

When you consider that the grass is mowed and trimmed about 30+ times
per year that $35 becomes $1050 of real pocket money.

Right...the same pocket money you had before you mowed the lawn.

Let's say I live off the land and have $0 dollars to my name. If I
cleaned up around my cabin 30+ times per year, would I have $1050 of
real pocket money to spend come Christmas time? No, I wouldn't because
you don't *earn* money when you do something yourself, you *save*
money.

There a big difference between not spending money and earning it. One
of them increases your net worth, the other one keeps it the same.
I'll let you figure out which one is which.

On Dec 1, 6:14*pm, Vic Smith wrote:
On Thu, 1 Dec 2011 14:10:54 -0800 (PST), DerbyDad03









wrote:
On Dec 1, 4:35*pm, BobR wrote:
On Dec 1, 1:13*pm, DerbyDad03 wrote:

I pay myself the $35 that I would have paid to someone else for 30
minutes work. *The last time I used the calculator that came to $70
per hour of work. *I never said that was my only income just that I
was making $70 an hour for doing my yard. *What I still haven't
figured out is why the yard crew that used to do my yard took almost
45 minutes to do the job with two people.

As for not making one red cent....A penny saved is a penny earned.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Your total net worth just before cleaning your yard was $X.

Too easy.
Start with $100 net worth.
Credit $35 to expense account for mowing.
Debit net worth account $35.
Net worth now $65.
Decide to spend 30 minutes doing the yard, or pay $35.

What was your total net worth after you spent the 30 minutes cleaning
the yard?

Have a glass of iced tea, then debit $35 in the expense account.
Credit net worth account $35
Mark in transaction memo "Mowing My Own Grass Earnings - non-taxable."
Net worth now $100.

If your net worth did not increase after cleaning your yard, you
didn't earn one red cent.

If your net worth did indeed increased by $35 after cleaning the yard,
please tell us where the money came from. There has to be a debit
someplace to offset the credit, unless you printed the money yourself.

Most peoples don't mess with the accounting.
They just know they got $35 richer and 1/2 hour poorer by doing the
job themselves.
And the $35 is real in the pocket money.

--Vic

Exactly. Net worth was $100 before the glass of Iced Tea and $100
afterwards. No one is richer, no one is poorer, but the yard looks
nice.

On Dec 1, 7:10*pm, BobR wrote:
On Dec 1, 4:10*pm, DerbyDad03 wrote:









On Dec 1, 4:35*pm, BobR wrote:

On Dec 1, 1:13*pm, DerbyDad03 wrote:

On Dec 1, 10:50*am, BobR wrote:

On Dec 1, 3:26*am, harry wrote:

On Dec 1, 1:14*am, "HeyBub" wrote:

[Number 28 makes this post on-topic]

Texans will never say...:

31. When I retire, I'm movin' north.

30. Oh I just couldn't, she's only sixteen.

29. I'll take Shakespeare for 1000, Alex.

28. Duct tape won't fix that.

27. Come to think of it, I'll have a Heineken

26. We don't keep firearms in this house.

25. You can't feed that to the dog!

24. No kids in the back of the pickup, it's just not safe.

23. Wrestling is fake.

22. We're vegetarians.

21. Do you think my gut is too big?

20. I'll have grapefruit and grapes instead of biscuits and gravy.

19. Honey, we don't need another dog.

18. Who gives a damn who won the Civil War?

17. Give me the small bag of pork rinds.

16. Too many deer heads detract from the decor.

15. I just couldn't find a thing at Wal-Mart today.

14. Trim the fat off that steak.

13. Cappuccino tastes better than espresso.

12. The tires on that truck are too big.

11. I've got it all on the C: DRIVE.

10. Unsweetened tea tastes better.

9. My fiancé, Bobbie Jo, is registered at Tiffany's.

8. I've got two cases of Zima for the Super Bowl.

7. Checkmate

6. She's too young to be wearing a bikini.

5. Hey, here's an episode of "Dukes of Hazard" that we haven't seen.

4. I don't have a favorite college team.

3. You Guys.

2. Those shorts ought to be a little longer, Betty Mae.

AND THE NUMBER ONE THING THAT YOU WILL NEVER HEAR A SOUTHERN BOY SAY:

1. Nope, no more beer for me. I'm driving a whole busload of us down to
re-elect OBAMA!

Best post yet heybub. I take it you are fromTexas?

You might add, "I never employ illlegals to do work about the house."-

Nope, doesn't apply. *I am a Texan and I made that statement several
years back. *As a result, I have to do all of my own yard work and
work on the house since it's almost impossible to find anyone who
doesn't use illegals for those jobs.

On the other hand, I used to pay $35 a week to have my yard mowed and
trimmed. *I now do it myself, do a better job, and it only takes me 30
minutes to do it. *I don't mind making $70 an hour and the yard looks
great.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Even if that kind of math made sense, you're "making" $35 a week, not
$70 an hour.

But of course we all know that you aren't making one red cent

I pay myself the $35 that I would have paid to someone else for 30
minutes work. *The last time I used the calculator that came to $70
per hour of work. *I never said that was my only income just that I
was making $70 an hour for doing my yard. *What I still haven't
figured out is why the yard crew that used to do my yard took almost
45 minutes to do the job with two people.

As for not making one red cent....A penny saved is a penny earned.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Your total net worth just before cleaning your yard was $X.

What was your total net worth after you spent the 30 minutes cleaning
the yard?

If your net worth did not increase after cleaning your yard, you
didn't earn one red cent.

If your net worth did indeed increased by $35 after cleaning the yard,
please tell us where the money came from. There has to be a debit
someplace to offset the credit, unless you printed the money yourself

Had I paid an idiot like you to do my yard for me, then my net worth
would have been reduced by the $35.

$35 dollars saved is $35 dollars earned.

That's good...you're half way there. You realize that your net worth
is decreased when you spend money on services.

Now you just have to figure out that saving money isn't earning money
because it does not increase your net worth - unless of course you
invest it wisely, but that's a discussion for another thread.

Let me try using your financial logic...

The wife and I just walked the dogs instead of paying someone to do it
for us. I guess I just earned about $15.

Earlier, we cooked dinner instead of paying a chef. I don't
know...let's call it $75.

I drove myself to and from work instead of paying a cabby, that's got
to be at least $100.

Before I went to work, I ironed my own shirt, which I also laundered
over the weekend instead of paying someone to do it for me. Minimal
earnings, maybe $6.

Note that these are all real services that people pay for. In fact,
they are all things that I have actually paid someone to do for me in
the past. By your logic, I should now be able to claim that I "earned"
$196, in one day, just by doing some every day tasks on my own instead
of paying someone to do them for me. If I do just those things
everyday, that's over $70K in "earnings" in a year.

At some point the IRS is going to come looking for me.

Oren writes:

On Thu, 01 Dec 2011 18:22:04 -0500, wrote:

"HeyBub" writes:

wrote:

Yeah, I noticed that on my visits to Houston.
You're driving through a residential neighborhood and you come to
some house decked out in Xmas lights and it has a sign that says
"Nude Dancing".

Well, that's one way to define freedom but probably not a good
way to protect property values.

We, in lesser affluent neighborhoods, have more subdued methods of dealing
with those who offend our sensibilities. These methods usually involve
firearms in some fashion

Yeah, I encountered a lot of that false bravado down in Texas.
I was down there fixing up a completely broken computer system and
the plant owner told us that if the system didn't work the way he
wanted, there could be gun play.

Up north we have a name for that kind of talk.
We call it idiocy.

Like I said, drive down a residential street and there is a whore house
sitting right in the middle of it. I learned something today.
The guy owning the whore house must have had more guns.

The Mustang Ranch brothel moved from Texas to Nevada. After legal
problems the government took it over and tried to operate it.

They ****ed it up and lost money.

http://urbanlegends.about.com/od/gov...tang_ranch.htm

Status FALSE.

But go on, keep repeating it. Lots of people will believe
that the Federal government tried to operate a whore house.


--
Dan Espen

wrote in message ...


Like I said, drive down a residential street and there is a whore house
sitting right in the middle of it. I learned something today.
The guy owning the whore house must have had more guns.


You shouldn't talk about your sister's house that way

On 12/1/2011 4:05 PM, HeyBub wrote:
wrote:

Yeah, I noticed that on my visits to Houston.
You're driving through a residential neighborhood and you come to
some house decked out in Xmas lights and it has a sign that says
"Nude Dancing".

Well, that's one way to define freedom but probably not a good
way to protect property values.


Years ago, Shell Oil bought a corner lot on the ritziest street in town. I'm
not kidding; in that neighborhood home prices started at several million,
and that was back when several million was a lot of money. Anyway, Shell
announced plans to erect a gas station with an attached unsanitary taco
stand.

The neighbors were incensed. They cut up their Shell credit cards and mailed
them to the company with nasty letters threatening all manner of undesirable
actions. Amongst the folks outraged were former governor John Connally and
Robert Mossbacher (at that time, the sitting Secretary of Commerce).

Shell reconsidered and donated the corner lot to the city for a pocket-park.

We, in lesser affluent neighborhoods, have more subdued methods of dealing
with those who offend our sensibilities. These methods usually involve
firearms in some fashion


In Alabamastan there could also be dynamite involved in such cases. ^_^

TDD

On 12/1/2011 7:18 PM, Oren wrote:
On Thu, 01 Dec 2011 18:22:04 -0500, wrote:

writes:

wrote:

Yeah, I noticed that on my visits to Houston.
You're driving through a residential neighborhood and you come to
some house decked out in Xmas lights and it has a sign that says
"Nude Dancing".

Well, that's one way to define freedom but probably not a good
way to protect property values.

We, in lesser affluent neighborhoods, have more subdued methods of dealing
with those who offend our sensibilities. These methods usually involve
firearms in some fashion

Yeah, I encountered a lot of that false bravado down in Texas.
I was down there fixing up a completely broken computer system and
the plant owner told us that if the system didn't work the way he
wanted, there could be gun play.

Up north we have a name for that kind of talk.
We call it idiocy.

Like I said, drive down a residential street and there is a whore house
sitting right in the middle of it. I learned something today.
The guy owning the whore house must have had more guns.

The Mustang Ranch brothel moved from Texas to Nevada. After legal
problems the government took it over and tried to operate it.

They ****ed it up and lost money.

"..The Mustang Ranch, originally known as the Mustang Bridge Ranch, is
a brothel in Storey County, Nevada, about fifteen miles east of Reno.
It is currently located at 1011 Wild Horse Canyon Dr Sparks, NV
89434."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mustang_Ranch

Can't depend on the government, even when you need too.

Um, you mean the government can **** up ****ing? ^_^

TDD

On Thu, 1 Dec 2011 18:23:36 -0800 (PST), DerbyDad03
wrote:



There a big difference between not spending money and earning it. One
of them increases your net worth, the other one keeps it the same.
I'll let you figure out which one is which.

Uh, no.
One common definition of earnings is income minus expenses.
It's pretty obvious that reducing expenses increases earnings.
That's what BobR did.
You're just stuck on your definition of pay check earnings.
And I showed you the book keeping entries to prove it.
Here's what you should do
Take a booked expense and cut it out.
Let's say a cable bill of $100 a month.
All else being equal after a year your net worth will increase $1200.
Now you might not want to call that earnings, but that's the effect.
When you mow the lawn and sweat a bit to increase your net worth,
nothing wrong with calling that an earning.
Especially when it had been an established expense.
It just doesn't matter that it rubs you wrong.

--Vic

On Dec 1, 6:47*pm, wrote:
On Thu, 1 Dec 2011 06:56:26 -0800 (PST), harry
wrote:

* I live in the largest city in the nation (maybe the world) with no zoning.

Zoning????

AKA the government telling you what you are allowed to do with your
property.

Huh. We've had that here for years. Gets worse all the time. Some
f**g prat college boy telling you you can't plant/cut down a tree,
build a wall etc etc.

On Dec 1, 7:13*pm, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Dec 1, 10:50*am, BobR wrote:





On Dec 1, 3:26*am, harry wrote:

On Dec 1, 1:14*am, "HeyBub" wrote:

[Number 28 makes this post on-topic]

Texans will never say...:

31. When I retire, I'm movin' north.

30. Oh I just couldn't, she's only sixteen.

29. I'll take Shakespeare for 1000, Alex.

28. Duct tape won't fix that.

27. Come to think of it, I'll have a Heineken

26. We don't keep firearms in this house.

25. You can't feed that to the dog!

24. No kids in the back of the pickup, it's just not safe.

23. Wrestling is fake.

22. We're vegetarians.

21. Do you think my gut is too big?

20. I'll have grapefruit and grapes instead of biscuits and gravy.

19. Honey, we don't need another dog.

18. Who gives a damn who won the Civil War?

17. Give me the small bag of pork rinds.

16. Too many deer heads detract from the decor.

15. I just couldn't find a thing at Wal-Mart today.

14. Trim the fat off that steak.

13. Cappuccino tastes better than espresso.

12. The tires on that truck are too big.

11. I've got it all on the C: DRIVE.

10. Unsweetened tea tastes better.

9. My fiancé, Bobbie Jo, is registered at Tiffany's.

8. I've got two cases of Zima for the Super Bowl.

7. Checkmate

6. She's too young to be wearing a bikini.

5. Hey, here's an episode of "Dukes of Hazard" that we haven't seen..

4. I don't have a favorite college team.

3. You Guys.

2. Those shorts ought to be a little longer, Betty Mae.

AND THE NUMBER ONE THING THAT YOU WILL NEVER HEAR A SOUTHERN BOY SAY:

1. Nope, no more beer for me. I'm driving a whole busload of us down to
re-elect OBAMA!

Best post yet heybub. I take it you are fromTexas?

You might add, "I never employ illlegals to do work about the house."-

Nope, doesn't apply. *I am a Texan and I made that statement several
years back. *As a result, I have to do all of my own yard work and
work on the house since it's almost impossible to find anyone who
doesn't use illegals for those jobs.

On the other hand, I used to pay $35 a week to have my yard mowed and
trimmed. *I now do it myself, do a better job, and it only takes me 30
minutes to do it. *I don't mind making $70 an hour and the yard looks
great.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Even if that kind of math made sense, you're "making" $35 a week, not
$70 an hour.

But of course we all know that you aren't making one red cent.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

A penny saved is a penny earned.
Better than that, there is no tax to pay.

On Dec 1, 11:22*pm, wrote:
"HeyBub" writes:
wrote:

Yeah, I noticed that on my visits to Houston.
You're driving through a residential neighborhood and you come to
some house decked out in Xmas lights and it has a sign that says
"Nude Dancing".

Well, that's one way to define freedom but probably not a good
way to protect property values.

We, in lesser affluent neighborhoods, have more subdued methods of dealing
with those who offend our sensibilities. These methods usually involve
firearms in some fashion

Yeah, I encountered a lot of that false bravado down in Texas.
I was down there fixing up a completely broken computer system and
the plant owner told us that if the system didn't work the way he
wanted, there could be gun play.

Up north we have a name for that kind of talk.
We call it idiocy.

Like I said, drive down a residential street and there is a whore house
sitting right in the middle of it. *I learned something today.
The guy owning the whore house must have had more guns.

--
Dan Espen

Kreuztfeldt Jakob syndrome. They catch it from the cow horns on
their cars.

On Dec 2, 12:15*am, BobR wrote:
On Dec 1, 5:14*pm, Vic Smith wrote:





On Thu, 1 Dec 2011 14:10:54 -0800 (PST), DerbyDad03

wrote:
On Dec 1, 4:35*pm, BobR wrote:
On Dec 1, 1:13*pm, DerbyDad03 wrote:

I pay myself the $35 that I would have paid to someone else for 30
minutes work. *The last time I used the calculator that came to $70
per hour of work. *I never said that was my only income just that I
was making $70 an hour for doing my yard. *What I still haven't
figured out is why the yard crew that used to do my yard took almost
45 minutes to do the job with two people.

As for not making one red cent....A penny saved is a penny earned.- Hide quoted text -

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Your total net worth just before cleaning your yard was $X.

Too easy.
Start with $100 net worth.
Credit $35 to expense account for mowing.
Debit net worth account $35.
Net worth now $65.
Decide to spend 30 minutes doing the yard, or pay $35.

What was your total net worth after you spent the 30 minutes cleaning
the yard?

Have a glass of iced tea, then debit $35 in the expense account.
Credit net worth account $35
Mark in transaction memo "Mowing My Own Grass Earnings - non-taxable."
Net worth now $100.

If your net worth did not increase after cleaning your yard, you
didn't earn one red cent.

If your net worth did indeed increased by $35 after cleaning the yard,
please tell us where the money came from. There has to be a debit
someplace to offset the credit, unless you printed the money yourself.

Most peoples don't mess with the accounting.
They just know they got $35 richer and 1/2 hour poorer by doing the
job themselves.
And the $35 is real in the pocket money.

--Vic

When you consider that the grass is mowed and trimmed about 30+ times
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But you neglected the purchase and wear and tear on your mower etc ;-)
However, it is a healthy pursuit.

On Dec 2, 2:21*am, "Mr. Austerity" "PrintMo.Money " wrote:
BobR wrote:
On Dec 1, 4:10 pm, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Dec 1, 4:35 pm, BobR wrote:

On Dec 1, 1:13 pm, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Dec 1, 10:50 am, BobR wrote:
On Dec 1, 3:26 am, harry wrote:
On Dec 1, 1:14 am, "HeyBub" wrote:
[Number 28 makes this post on-topic]
Texans will never say...:
31. When I retire, I'm movin' north.
30. Oh I just couldn't, she's only sixteen.
29. I'll take Shakespeare for 1000, Alex.
28. Duct tape won't fix that.
27. Come to think of it, I'll have a Heineken
26. We don't keep firearms in this house.
25. You can't feed that to the dog!
24. No kids in the back of the pickup, it's just not safe.
23. Wrestling is fake.
22. We're vegetarians.
21. Do you think my gut is too big?
20. I'll have grapefruit and grapes instead of biscuits and gravy..
19. Honey, we don't need another dog.
18. Who gives a damn who won the Civil War?
17. Give me the small bag of pork rinds.
16. Too many deer heads detract from the decor.
15. I just couldn't find a thing at Wal-Mart today.
14. Trim the fat off that steak.
13. Cappuccino tastes better than espresso.
12. The tires on that truck are too big.
11. I've got it all on the C: DRIVE.
10. Unsweetened tea tastes better.
9. My fianc , Bobbie Jo, is registered at Tiffany's.
8. I've got two cases of Zima for the Super Bowl.
7. Checkmate
6. She's too young to be wearing a bikini.
5. Hey, here's an episode of "Dukes of Hazard" that we haven't seen.
4. I don't have a favorite college team.
3. You Guys.
2. Those shorts ought to be a little longer, Betty Mae.
AND THE NUMBER ONE THING THAT YOU WILL NEVER HEAR A SOUTHERN BOY SAY:
1. Nope, no more beer for me. I'm driving a whole busload of us down to
re-elect OBAMA!
Best post yet heybub. I take it you are fromTexas?
You might add, "I never employ illlegals to do work about the house."-
Nope, doesn't apply. *I am a Texan and I made that statement several
years back. *As a result, I have to do all of my own yard work and
work on the house since it's almost impossible to find anyone who
doesn't use illegals for those jobs.
On the other hand, I used to pay $35 a week to have my yard mowed and
trimmed. *I now do it myself, do a better job, and it only takes me 30
minutes to do it. *I don't mind making $70 an hour and the yard looks
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Even if that kind of math made sense, you're "making" $35 a week, not
$70 an hour.
But of course we all know that you aren't making one red cent
I pay myself the $35 that I would have paid to someone else for 30
minutes work. *The last time I used the calculator that came to $70
per hour of work. *I never said that was my only income just that I
was making $70 an hour for doing my yard. *What I still haven't
figured out is why the yard crew that used to do my yard took almost
45 minutes to do the job with two people.
As for not making one red cent....A penny saved is a penny earned.- Hide quoted text -
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Your total net worth just before cleaning your yard was $X.

What was your total net worth after you spent the 30 minutes cleaning
the yard?

If your net worth did not increase after cleaning your yard, you
didn't earn one red cent.

If your net worth did indeed increased by $35 after cleaning the yard,
please tell us where the money came from. There has to be a debit
someplace to offset the credit, unless you printed the money yourself

Had I paid an idiot like you to do my yard for me, then my net worth
would have been reduced by the $35.

$35 dollars saved is $35 dollars earned.

* All this sounds good, 70 bucks an hour 560 bucks a day... 2800 bucks
for a 40 hour week pure profit. * *What could possibly go wrong with a
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Garden machinery, transport, advertising, fuel, maintentance, bad
weather, insurance etc?
You'd never make an accountant I can see.

On Dec 2, 2:47*am, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Dec 1, 6:14*pm, Vic Smith wrote:





On Thu, 1 Dec 2011 14:10:54 -0800 (PST), DerbyDad03

wrote:
On Dec 1, 4:35*pm, BobR wrote:
On Dec 1, 1:13*pm, DerbyDad03 wrote:

I pay myself the $35 that I would have paid to someone else for 30
minutes work. *The last time I used the calculator that came to $70
per hour of work. *I never said that was my only income just that I
was making $70 an hour for doing my yard. *What I still haven't
figured out is why the yard crew that used to do my yard took almost
45 minutes to do the job with two people.

As for not making one red cent....A penny saved is a penny earned.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Your total net worth just before cleaning your yard was $X.

Too easy.
Start with $100 net worth.
Credit $35 to expense account for mowing.
Debit net worth account $35.
Net worth now $65.
Decide to spend 30 minutes doing the yard, or pay $35.

What was your total net worth after you spent the 30 minutes cleaning
the yard?

Have a glass of iced tea, then debit $35 in the expense account.
Credit net worth account $35
Mark in transaction memo "Mowing My Own Grass Earnings - non-taxable."
Net worth now $100.

If your net worth did not increase after cleaning your yard, you
didn't earn one red cent.

If your net worth did indeed increased by $35 after cleaning the yard,
please tell us where the money came from. There has to be a debit
someplace to offset the credit, unless you printed the money yourself.

Most peoples don't mess with the accounting.
They just know they got $35 richer and 1/2 hour poorer by doing the
job themselves.
And the $35 is real in the pocket money.

--Vic

Exactly. Net worth was $100 before the glass of Iced Tea and $100
afterwards. No one is richer, no one is poorer, but the yard looks
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The gardener is poorer. That is how the economy freezes up in a
microcosm.

On Dec 2, 3:13*am, wrote:
Oren writes:
On Thu, 01 Dec 2011 18:22:04 -0500, wrote:

"HeyBub" writes:

wrote:

Yeah, I noticed that on my visits to Houston.
You're driving through a residential neighborhood and you come to
some house decked out in Xmas lights and it has a sign that says
"Nude Dancing".

Well, that's one way to define freedom but probably not a good
way to protect property values.

We, in lesser affluent neighborhoods, have more subdued methods of dealing
with those who offend our sensibilities. These methods usually involve
firearms in some fashion

Yeah, I encountered a lot of that false bravado down in Texas.
I was down there fixing up a completely broken computer system and
the plant owner told us that if the system didn't work the way he
wanted, there could be gun play.

Up north we have a name for that kind of talk.
We call it idiocy.

Like I said, drive down a residential street and there is a whore house
sitting right in the middle of it. *I learned something today.
The guy owning the whore house must have had more guns.

The Mustang Ranch brothel moved from Texas to Nevada. After legal
problems the government took it over and tried to operate it.

They ****ed it up and lost money.

http://urbanlegends.about.com/od/gov...tang_ranch.htm

Status FALSE.

But go on, keep repeating it. *Lots of people will believe
that the Federal government tried to operate a whore house.

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Yes. False, as in the wikipedia entry too.
Clearly never even read his own link.

There's lots of people here got their heads up their arses.

On Dec 2, 2:23*am, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Dec 1, 7:15*pm, BobR wrote:





On Dec 1, 5:14*pm, Vic Smith wrote:

On Thu, 1 Dec 2011 14:10:54 -0800 (PST), DerbyDad03

wrote:
On Dec 1, 4:35*pm, BobR wrote:
On Dec 1, 1:13*pm, DerbyDad03 wrote:

I pay myself the $35 that I would have paid to someone else for 30
minutes work. *The last time I used the calculator that came to $70
per hour of work. *I never said that was my only income just that I
was making $70 an hour for doing my yard. *What I still haven't
figured out is why the yard crew that used to do my yard took almost
45 minutes to do the job with two people.

As for not making one red cent....A penny saved is a penny earned.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Your total net worth just before cleaning your yard was $X.

Too easy.
Start with $100 net worth.
Credit $35 to expense account for mowing.
Debit net worth account $35.
Net worth now $65.
Decide to spend 30 minutes doing the yard, or pay $35.

What was your total net worth after you spent the 30 minutes cleaning
the yard?

Have a glass of iced tea, then debit $35 in the expense account.
Credit net worth account $35
Mark in transaction memo "Mowing My Own Grass Earnings - non-taxable."
Net worth now $100.

If your net worth did not increase after cleaning your yard, you
didn't earn one red cent.

If your net worth did indeed increased by $35 after cleaning the yard,
please tell us where the money came from. There has to be a debit
someplace to offset the credit, unless you printed the money yourself.

Most peoples don't mess with the accounting.
They just know they got $35 richer and 1/2 hour poorer by doing the
job themselves.
And the $35 is real in the pocket money.

--Vic

When you consider that the grass is mowed and trimmed about 30+ times
per year that $35 becomes $1050 of real pocket money.

Right...the same pocket money you had before you mowed the lawn.

Let's say I live off the land and have $0 dollars to my name. If I
cleaned up around my cabin 30+ times per year, would I have $1050 of
real pocket money to spend come Christmas time? No, I wouldn't because
you don't *earn* money when you do something yourself, you *save*
money.

There a big difference between not spending money and earning it. One
of them increases your net worth, the other one keeps it the same.
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Not spending is tax efficient.
It's called a subsistence economy BTW,
It may be coming your way soon.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subsist...heory_of_wages

On 12/2/2011 12:43 AM, harry wrote:
On Dec 1, 6:47 pm, wrote:
On Thu, 1 Dec 2011 06:56:26 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

* I live in the largest city in the nation (maybe the world) with no zoning.

Zoning????

AKA the government telling you what you are allowed to do with your
property.

Huh. We've had that here for years. Gets worse all the time. ...

And, on the other hand, preventing some a-hole from putting a pig sty in
the middle of the neighborhood.

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