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====================== Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 9:38 PM We got hit pretty hard over night (Monday night) with freezing rain that turned to ice. I had an experience today that has me pondering on how better to be prepared in the future. I was at home working around the house. I heard someone yelling my name over and over from out- side. It sounded like my neighbor and my first thought was "Oh God, he's fallen in my driveway" but when I opened the door he wasn't there but still calling my name, so I looked down to his house (2 houses over) and there he was lying on the ground by his truck, in a pair of shorts, tshirt and moccassins. He said "Call 911 I've broken my leg". My stupid Verizon cell phone would not call out to 911 (I've had this problem before and they said they didn't know why, time definitely for new phones). Anyways, I called my friend across the street and had her call 911. I got on my boots and coat and tried to walk across my yard and could not move, it was solid thick sheet of ice so I could not get to him. He said "I'm so cold" my other friend had her teen girls run over with a blanket to cover him till the emergency squad came. We had 300 emergency room visits today in our city from people falling and getting hurt on the ice. Sorry long story but now my thoughts a The only alternative I can think of for me to have gotten to him without falling and breaking my leg, back, neck too was if I had those ski things, don't know what they are called but they are hand held sticks that skiers use to guide them in the snow. Would that work? And of course, our driveway and streets were even worse. Ends up my neighbor didn't break his leg but broke his knee instead and will have surgery tommorow. ===================== You may have been able to get there by crawling. Of course, gloves and knee pads would help. Your idea of ski poles may have worked. Another idea, is the one time I got my van stuck on ice, a salt truck spreading salt helped me to get enough traction to get off the ice. If you had enough rock salt or kitty litter, you might have been able to spread salt in front of yourself. http://www.blackdiamondequipment.com...ons/neve-strap Remember the old clamp on roller skates? Mountain climbers have something called "crampons" which strap on like the old roller skates. But which have wicked sharp points to dig into ice. Golf cleat shoes may have beeen useful. I'm less sure about the golf cleats. |
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"Stormin Mormon" wrote in message
... We got hit pretty hard over night (Monday night) with freezing rain that turned to ice. . . . We had 300 emergency room visits today in our city from people falling and getting hurt on the ice. . . . The only alternative I can think of for me to have gotten to him without falling and breaking my leg, back, neck too was if I had those ski things, don't know what they are called but they are hand held sticks that skiers use to guide them in the snow. Would that work? . . . Mountain climbers have something called "crampons" which strap on like the old roller skates. But which have wicked sharp points to dig into ice. Golf cleat shoes may have beeen useful. In Canada where winter ice is frequent some shoe stores sell crampon kits to attach to shoes or boots. We keep one pair in the car glove box and another in the house, and need them a dozen times a year, e.g. walking 25 yards to the mailbox. Highways are heavily salted in icy weather (with consequent rust damage to vehicles.) -- Don Phillipson Carlsbad Springs (Ottawa, Canada) |
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On 2/2/2011 7:29 AM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
From another list. ====================== Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 9:38 PM We got hit pretty hard over night (Monday night) with freezing rain that turned to ice. I had an experience today that has me pondering on how better to be prepared in the future. I was at home working around the house. I heard someone yelling my name over and over from out- side. It sounded like my neighbor and my first thought was "Oh God, he's fallen in my driveway" but when I opened the door he wasn't there but still calling my name, so I looked down to his house (2 houses over) and there he was lying on the ground by his truck, in a pair of shorts, tshirt and moccassins. He said "Call 911 I've broken my leg". My stupid Verizon cell phone would not call out to 911 (I've had this problem before and they said they didn't know why, time definitely for new phones). Anyways, I called my friend across the street and had her call 911. I got on my boots and coat and tried to walk across my yard and could not move, it was solid thick sheet of ice so I could not get to him. He said "I'm so cold" my other friend had her teen girls run over with a blanket to cover him till the emergency squad came. We had 300 emergency room visits today in our city from people falling and getting hurt on the ice. Sorry long story but now my thoughts a The only alternative I can think of for me to have gotten to him without falling and breaking my leg, back, neck too was if I had those ski things, don't know what they are called but they are hand held sticks that skiers use to guide them in the snow. Would that work? And of course, our driveway and streets were even worse. Ends up my neighbor didn't break his leg but broke his knee instead and will have surgery tommorow. ===================== You may have been able to get there by crawling. Of course, gloves and knee pads would help. Your idea of ski poles may have worked. Another idea, is the one time I got my van stuck on ice, a salt truck spreading salt helped me to get enough traction to get off the ice. If you had enough rock salt or kitty litter, you might have been able to spread salt in front of yourself. http://www.blackdiamondequipment.com...ons/neve-strap Remember the old clamp on roller skates? Mountain climbers have something called "crampons" which strap on like the old roller skates. But which have wicked sharp points to dig into ice. Golf cleat shoes may have beeen useful. I'm less sure about the golf cleats. You can buy slip on crampons to go over your shoes. I have a pair in the closet I bought last year to have just in case. If I really need to go out in the ice I will just slip them on to my shoes and go. Bill |
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On 2/2/2011 8:29 AM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
From another list. ====================== Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 9:38 PM We got hit pretty hard over night (Monday night) with freezing rain that turned to ice. I had an experience today that has me pondering on how better to be prepared in the future. I was at home working around the house. I heard someone yelling my name over and over from out- side. It sounded like my neighbor and my first thought was "Oh God, he's fallen in my driveway" but when I opened the door he wasn't there but still calling my name, so I looked down to his house (2 houses over) and there he was lying on the ground by his truck, in a pair of shorts, tshirt and moccassins. He said "Call 911 I've broken my leg". My stupid Verizon cell phone would not call out to 911 (I've had this problem before and they said they didn't know why, time definitely for new phones). Anyways, I called my friend across the street and had her call 911. I got on my boots and coat and tried to walk across my yard and could not move, it was solid thick sheet of ice so I could not get to him. He said "I'm so cold" my other friend had her teen girls run over with a blanket to cover him till the emergency squad came. We had 300 emergency room visits today in our city from people falling and getting hurt on the ice. Sorry long story but now my thoughts a The only alternative I can think of for me to have gotten to him without falling and breaking my leg, back, neck too was if I had those ski things, don't know what they are called but they are hand held sticks that skiers use to guide them in the snow. Would that work? And of course, our driveway and streets were even worse. Ends up my neighbor didn't break his leg but broke his knee instead and will have surgery tommorow. ===================== You may have been able to get there by crawling. Of course, gloves and knee pads would help. Your idea of ski poles may have worked. Another idea, is the one time I got my van stuck on ice, a salt truck spreading salt helped me to get enough traction to get off the ice. If you had enough rock salt or kitty litter, you might have been able to spread salt in front of yourself. http://www.blackdiamondequipment.com...ons/neve-strap Remember the old clamp on roller skates? Mountain climbers have something called "crampons" which strap on like the old roller skates. But which have wicked sharp points to dig into ice. Golf cleat shoes may have beeen useful. I'm less sure about the golf cleats. You could sit on a sled and push yourself along with a couple of sticks with spiked tips to grip ice. There are also clamp-on spiked thingies to put on your feet (for ice fishing?). Best of all, stay indoors when the weather guy and authorities tell ya' to. We haven't (yet) gotten the freezing rain that had been predicted, but it ain't over yet. Snow is crusted over, with sleet? crusted on top. Two kids snowed in, one at work...one on a farm with horses. Her county is geared up to rescue those caught with power outages or other emergencies. Propane low, wood stove goin'. Hearing from Chicago now with all the folks stuck on Lake Shore Drive who are mad at the mayor (again) because they can't get out. Hell, Mayor Byrne lost the next election because she didn't stop the all-time record breaking blizzard. During that blizzard, it took my mom eight hours to drive home from work - one did not get snowed in in the neighborhood where she worked. And the stranded motorists were stunned that the CPD didn't send their heroes in to rescue them. New in town, apparently ) When I was in H.S. we had an ice storm, school not closed. I lived two blocks from school and normal transit time was about five minutes. After this ice storm, couldn't walk on sidewalks so walked on tree lawns. Took an hour to get there and find the campus flooded - then walked through ankle deep water to get to the building. No big deal ) |
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Which store, and how expensive?
-- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "Bill Gill" wrote in message ... You can buy slip on crampons to go over your shoes. I have a pair in the closet I bought last year to have just in case. If I really need to go out in the ice I will just slip them on to my shoes and go. Bill |
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And it was this high (palm down, hand in front of chest)
both ways? I've also walked lawns instead of sidewalks. -- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. wrote in message ... You could sit on a sled and push yourself along with a couple of sticks with spiked tips to grip ice. There are also clamp-on spiked thingies to put on your feet (for ice fishing?). Best of all, stay indoors when the weather guy and authorities tell ya' to. We haven't (yet) gotten the freezing rain that had been predicted, but it ain't over yet. Snow is crusted over, with sleet? crusted on top. Two kids snowed in, one at work...one on a farm with horses. Her county is geared up to rescue those caught with power outages or other emergencies. Propane low, wood stove goin'. Hearing from Chicago now with all the folks stuck on Lake Shore Drive who are mad at the mayor (again) because they can't get out. Hell, Mayor Byrne lost the next election because she didn't stop the all-time record breaking blizzard. During that blizzard, it took my mom eight hours to drive home from work - one did not get snowed in in the neighborhood where she worked. And the stranded motorists were stunned that the CPD didn't send their heroes in to rescue them. New in town, apparently ) When I was in H.S. we had an ice storm, school not closed. I lived two blocks from school and normal transit time was about five minutes. After this ice storm, couldn't walk on sidewalks so walked on tree lawns. Took an hour to get there and find the campus flooded - then walked through ankle deep water to get to the building. No big deal ) |
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We must have lived in the same town.
-- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "willshak" wrote in message news When I was in H.S. we had an ice storm, school not closed. I lived two blocks from school and normal transit time was about five minutes. After this ice storm, couldn't walk on sidewalks so walked on tree lawns. Took an hour to get there and find the campus flooded - then walked through ankle deep water to get to the building. No big deal ) ....and it was uphill both ways. :-) -- Bill In Hamptonburgh, NY In the original Orange County. Est. 1683 To email, remove the double zeroes after @ |
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"Stormin Mormon" wrote in message We got hit pretty hard over night (Monday night) with freezing rain that turned to ice. . . . We had 300 emergency room visits today in our city from people falling and getting hurt on the ice. I didn't go to the ER, but I did get a concussion yesterday. Slipped on ice under the snow and was on my back before I even realized I was falling, banged the back of my head on the ice. Scary for a few seconds because at first, I could not move at all. I'll have some effects for a few days, at least. I'm not going out at al today. |
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"Stormin Mormon" wrote in
: From another list. ====================== Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 9:38 PM We got hit pretty hard over night (Monday night) with freezing rain that turned to ice. I had an experience today that has me pondering on how better to be prepared in the future. I was at home working around the house. I heard someone yelling my name over and over from out- side. It sounded like my neighbor and my first thought was "Oh God, he's fallen in my driveway" but when I opened the door he wasn't there but still calling my name, so I looked down to his house (2 houses over) and there he was lying on the ground by his truck, in a pair of shorts, tshirt and moccassins. He said "Call 911 I've broken my leg". My stupid Verizon cell phone would not call out to 911 (I've had this problem before and they said they didn't know why, time definitely for new phones). Anyways, I called my friend across the street and had her call 911. I got on my boots and coat and tried to walk across my yard and could not move, it was solid thick sheet of ice so I could not get to him. He said "I'm so cold" my other friend had her teen girls run over with a blanket to cover him till the emergency squad came. We had 300 emergency room visits today in our city from people falling and getting hurt on the ice. Sorry long story but now my thoughts a The only alternative I can think of for me to have gotten to him without falling and breaking my leg, back, neck too was if I had those ski things, don't know what they are called but they are hand held sticks that skiers use to guide them in the snow. Would that work? And of course, our driveway and streets were even worse. Ends up my neighbor didn't break his leg but broke his knee instead and will have surgery tommorow. ===================== You may have been able to get there by crawling. Of course, gloves and knee pads would help. Your idea of ski poles may have worked. Another idea, is the one time I got my van stuck on ice, a salt truck spreading salt helped me to get enough traction to get off the ice. If you had enough rock salt or kitty litter, you might have been able to spread salt in front of yourself. http://www.blackdiamondequipment.com.../crampons/neve -strap Remember the old clamp on roller skates? Mountain climbers have something called "crampons" which strap on like the old roller skates. But which have wicked sharp points to dig into ice. Golf cleat shoes may have beeen useful. I'm less sure about the golf cleats. Thick woolen sock over the shoes should give traction, but the skipoles are also helpful, or bellyflopping if you like that (see the videos of pinguins moving over ice/snow). -- Best regards Han email address is invalid |
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On Feb 2, 7:29*am, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote: From another list. ====================== Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 9:38 PM We got hit pretty hard over night (Monday night) with freezing rain that turned to ice. *I had an experience today that has me pondering on how better to be prepared in the future. I was at home working around the house. I heard someone yelling my name over and over from out- side. *It sounded like my neighbor and my first thought was "Oh God, he's fallen in my driveway" but when I opened the door he wasn't there but still calling my name, so I looked down to his house (2 houses over) and there he was lying on the ground by his truck, in a pair of shorts, tshirt and moccassins. *He said "Call 911 I've broken my leg". My stupid Verizon cell phone would not call out to 911 (I've had this problem before and they said they didn't know why, time definitely for new phones). *Anyways, I called my friend across the street and had her call 911. *I got on my boots and coat and tried to walk across my yard and could not move, it was solid thick sheet of ice so I could not get to him. *He said "I'm so cold" my other friend had her teen girls run over with a blanket to cover him till the emergency squad came. We had 300 emergency room visits today in our city from people falling and getting hurt on the ice. Sorry long story but now my thoughts a The only alternative I can think of for me to have gotten to him without falling and breaking my leg, back, neck too was if I had those ski things, don't know what they are called but they are hand held sticks that skiers use to guide them in the snow. Would that work? *And of course, our driveway and streets were even worse. Ends up my neighbor didn't break his leg but broke his knee instead and will have surgery tommorow. ===================== You may have been able to get there by crawling. Of course, gloves and knee pads would help. Your idea of ski poles may have worked. Another idea, is the one time I got my van stuck on ice, a salt truck spreading salt helped me to get enough traction to get off the ice. If you had enough rock salt or kitty litter, you might have been able to spread salt in front of yourself. * *http://www.blackdiamondequipment.com...rampons/neve-s... Remember the old clamp on roller skates? Mountain climbers have something called "crampons" which strap on like the old roller skates. But which have wicked sharp points to dig into ice. Golf cleat shoes may have beeen useful. I'm less sure about the golf cleats. Scattering some sand or kitty litter over the ice would help. Or maybe take some ice skating lessons so you learn how to balance better while slipping around. Learn how to fall properly so you don't hurt yourself too bad. -C- |
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When I was in H.S. we had an ice storm, school not closed. I lived two blocks from school and normal transit time was about five minutes. After this ice storm, couldn't walk on sidewalks so walked on tree lawns. Took an hour to get there and find the campus flooded - then walked through ankle deep water to get to the building. No big deal ) ...and it was uphill both ways. :-) My son found a funny story yesterday about the "older" generation, ca. 1980 ) I did recently, for the first time in my life, hear a pack of coyotes howling in the woods behind our house...they were probably a block or two distant. Awesome, haven't seen one in the wild yet. This fall, the two local towns had open hunting for deer with bow and arrow...90 deer taken, and they are still plentiful. 5 or 6 in the yard last evening. My school days were completely lacking in mountains, wolves, bears, homeless, addicts, etc. Worst event in my neighborhood, while I was growing up, was a neighbor whose purse was grabbed on the street. And the nice Buick that was stolen. We took the subway downtown to shop, alone, when we were 11 or 12. No big deal, no worry. Chicago was much safer when I was growing up than the small town where I raised my children. |
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On Wed, 02 Feb 2011 09:08:14 -0500, "
wrote: Hearing from Chicago now with all the folks stuck on Lake Shore Drive who are mad at the mayor (again) because they can't get out. Hell, Mayor Byrne lost the next election because she didn't stop the all-time record breaking blizzard. I predict that Mayor Daley too won't be elected for another term. During that blizzard, it took my mom eight hours to drive home from work - one did not get snowed in in the neighborhood where she worked. And the stranded motorists were stunned that the CPD didn't send their heroes in to rescue them. New in town, apparently ) I know mayor is mostly an administrative post, (except in NYC where the city often has a foreign policy too.) |
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On 2/2/2011 10:43 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
? "Stormin Mormon" wrote in message We got hit pretty hard over night (Monday night) with freezing rain that turned to ice. . . . We had 300 emergency room visits today in our city from people falling and getting hurt on the ice. I didn't go to the ER, but I did get a concussion yesterday. Slipped on ice under the snow and was on my back before I even realized I was falling, banged the back of my head on the ice. Scary for a few seconds because at first, I could not move at all. I'll have some effects for a few days, at least. I'm not going out at al today. Sorry to hear that and hope you are okay. I'm 67 and have gotten really, really cautious on ice and snow; indoors, too, with nightlights, etc. Have been out shoveling some of our driveway today, taking time out. Grandsons will finish. I figure if it doesn't kill me, it is good exercise, carefully and in moderation. This snow is crusty on top and very heavy. Still some discussion, I think, of the possibility of some freezing rain for our area of N. Indiana (not lake)...don't want the whole mess frozen in place. |
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Sounds like creepers, and tampons, I mean, Crampons. Same
idea. Strap onto boots or shoes, and provide sharp points to dig into the ice. I'd not have thought about carpet samples. Hmm. Wonder if they help? Must..... -- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. wrote in message ... The things to put on shoes are called ICE CREEPERS. Hardware and farm supply stores usually have them. I live on a farm. There have been several times I could not cross the driveway. I bought some creepers since, but even with them it's not always easy to walk on some of the worst ice. I found an easy solution. You need 2 throw rugs or strips of carpeting, 6 to 8 feet long. Lay one down, walk to the end, lay the next one, pick up the first one, put that ahead of the one you are on. It's slow, but it gets you across the ice. On the lawn areas I dont chovel them, so I just walk on the snow rather than the sidewalk or driveway. In an emergency, the rugs work quite well, and most people have them. I should mention that the thicker ones or strips of carpeting work better than those cheap thin ones like people use in bathrooms. I have a few strips of actual carpet that I use to work under my car, and those work the best. I'm glad the OP helped this guy and got the guy to a hospital before it got worse. (I agree with the new phones too). |
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Ouch! Best wishes. Hope you aren't seriously hurt.
-- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message ... I didn't go to the ER, but I did get a concussion yesterday. Slipped on ice under the snow and was on my back before I even realized I was falling, banged the back of my head on the ice. Scary for a few seconds because at first, I could not move at all. I'll have some effects for a few days, at least. I'm not going out at al today. |
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On 2/2/2011 10:24 AM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
Which store, and how expensive? Any place that caters to skiers, rock climbers, and winter campers. Modern ones are like Totes overshoes, almost. I have an old-school pair with chains and plates that you have to strap and buckle on. No idea on price- just google 'crampons' or 'ice spikes for boots', and they should come right up. The ones hard-core mountain climbers wear are scary- they look like something Freddy Krueger would wear to stomp somebody. -- aem sends... |
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Remember the old clamp on roller skates? Mountain climbers have something called "crampons" which strap on like the old roller skates. But which have wicked sharp points to dig into ice. http://www.leevalley.com/US/garden/p...=2,51676,40911 |
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On 2/2/2011 10:43 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
? "Stormin Mormon" wrote in message We got hit pretty hard over night (Monday night) with freezing rain that turned to ice. . . . We had 300 emergency room visits today in our city from people falling and getting hurt on the ice. I didn't go to the ER, but I did get a concussion yesterday. Slipped on ice under the snow and was on my back before I even realized I was falling, banged the back of my head on the ice. Scary for a few seconds because at first, I could not move at all. I'll have some effects for a few days, at least. I'm not going out at al today. My fall happened 2 days ago and I sprained my wrist. Wife tried to get me to go to the doctor but I've nursed it myself and its getting better. I walk daily for exercise and knew path was icy but did it anyway. Now I'm sticking to walking indoors or using exercise bike. I also fell using snow thrower, heard wife yell to be careful when I got up and found her videotaping me. Someone said I could become a utube sensation but I'll be damned if I'll upload it. I always carry cell phone when out in the elements. My dad, when in his 80's fell in the snow his parking lot and though unhurt could not get up and it was 15 minutes before someone found him. |
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Forty bucks, but much cheaper than a hospital visit. Thanks
for the link. -- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "DGDevin" wrote in message m... Remember the old clamp on roller skates? Mountain climbers have something called "crampons" which strap on like the old roller skates. But which have wicked sharp points to dig into ice. http://www.leevalley.com/US/garden/p...=2,51676,40911 |
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Sorry to hear you you got hurt. All four of my
grand parents have fallen and gotten hurt. I'm sure it will be my turn, some day. Now I start to understand why mall walking is such a popular indoor sport. -- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "Frank" wrote in message ... My fall happened 2 days ago and I sprained my wrist. Wife tried to get me to go to the doctor but I've nursed it myself and its getting better. I walk daily for exercise and knew path was icy but did it anyway. Now I'm sticking to walking indoors or using exercise bike. I also fell using snow thrower, heard wife yell to be careful when I got up and found her videotaping me. Someone said I could become a utube sensation but I'll be damned if I'll upload it. I always carry cell phone when out in the elements. My dad, when in his 80's fell in the snow his parking lot and though unhurt could not get up and it was 15 minutes before someone found him. |
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Frank wrote in news:iic4r6$mno$1
@news.eternal-september.org: My dad, when in his 80's fell in the snow his parking lot and though unhurt could not get up and it was 15 minutes before someone found him. Make them wear an alert thingy. It works! -- Best regards Han email address is invalid |
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Storman Morman asked:
Which store, and how expensive? "Crampons" that are rubber based and pull on over shoes are sold by L.L.Bean for about $20. I never go out without them in the winter. Another type that has coiled springs for gripping (YakTraks) are ok on packed snow but don't grip well on ice. ---MIKE--- In the White Mountains of New Hampshire (44° 15' N - Elevation 1580') |
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"Stormin Mormon" wrote in message ... Forty bucks, but much cheaper than a hospital visit. Thanks for the link. There are cheaper versions available, but these look like they won't fall apart in a couple of uses. The re-studding kit is only six bucks, so if you have an old pair of boots you could make you own ice-walkers and keep them beside the door. The cheap ones make me wonder not only how well they work but how long they would last. The skinny bungee-cord designs would be convenient, but I have to think 3/4" nylon webbing and a solid sole is going to stand up (so to speak) a lot better. Sometimes cheap is false economy, and I don't heal as fast as I used to. http://www.thewarmingstore.com/noslipicegrips1.html |
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On 2/2/2011 1:16 PM, Han wrote:
wrote in news:iic4r6$mno$1 @news.eternal-september.org: My dad, when in his 80's fell in the snow his parking lot and though unhurt could not get up and it was 15 minutes before someone found him. Make them wear an alert thingy. It works! I think the alert thingy only works in the house where the receiver is and besides a Tracfone is much cheaper - $10 vs ~$30/month. It is good for the confined elderly as it is always with them. I heard of one couple using it to summon help when their house was being burglarized. Dad died over 10 years ago at age 88 but spent the last 5 years in a nursing home after a stroke. The woman in the apartment below his heard him banging on the floor but if he had the alert thingy and was able to use it, it might have kept him out of the nursing home as rapid stroke response can save the further brain injury that occurs thereafter. |
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On 2/2/2011 1:00 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
Sorry to hear you you got hurt. All four of my grand parents have fallen and gotten hurt. I'm sure it will be my turn, some day. Now I start to understand why mall walking is such a popular indoor sport. There's a police athletic league a few minutes away where its a tenth mile around the perimeter inside. I can't see driving a half hour to the mall to walk a hour. I've fallen several times when I used to run the park I walk in. Prior to that, in my late forty's I had a bad spill from my bicycle and am still carrying a metal plate and screws in my collar bone. You can fall at any age but more so when older. I've quit doing a few things I used to do when younger like climbing on the roof. An 84 year old neighbor who died recently from cancer lost a few teeth last year when he fell off his roof. Several years ago a 74 year old neighbor died when a partially downed tree he was cutting fell on him. |
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"Han" wrote in message ... Frank wrote in news:iic4r6$mno$1 @news.eternal-september.org: My dad, when in his 80's fell in the snow his parking lot and though unhurt could not get up and it was 15 minutes before someone found him. Make them wear an alert thingy. It works! -- Best regards Han email address is invalid My wife fell in the driveway and had quite a wait. Now, she it not allowed to even go to the mailbox without a cellphone. She's had a couple of issues to warrant that. |
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On Feb 2, 8:29*am, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote: From another list. ====================== Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 9:38 PM We got hit pretty hard over night (Monday night) with freezing rain that turned to ice. *I had an experience today that has me pondering on how better to be prepared in the future. I was at home working around the house. I heard someone yelling my name over and over from out- side. *It sounded like my neighbor and my first thought was "Oh God, he's fallen in my driveway" but when I opened the door he wasn't there but still calling my name, so I looked down to his house (2 houses over) and there he was lying on the ground by his truck, in a pair of shorts, tshirt and moccassins. *He said "Call 911 I've broken my leg". My stupid Verizon cell phone would not call out to 911 (I've had this problem before and they said they didn't know why, time definitely for new phones). *Anyways, I called my friend across the street and had her call 911. *I got on my boots and coat and tried to walk across my yard and could not move, it was solid thick sheet of ice so I could not get to him. *He said "I'm so cold" my other friend had her teen girls run over with a blanket to cover him till the emergency squad came. We had 300 emergency room visits today in our city from people falling and getting hurt on the ice. Sorry long story but now my thoughts a The only alternative I can think of for me to have gotten to him without falling and breaking my leg, back, neck too was if I had those ski things, don't know what they are called but they are hand held sticks that skiers use to guide them in the snow. Would that work? *And of course, our driveway and streets were even worse. Ends up my neighbor didn't break his leg but broke his knee instead and will have surgery tommorow. ===================== You may have been able to get there by crawling. Of course, gloves and knee pads would help. Your idea of ski poles may have worked. Another idea, is the one time I got my van stuck on ice, a salt truck spreading salt helped me to get enough traction to get off the ice. If you had enough rock salt or kitty litter, you might have been able to spread salt in front of yourself. * *http://www.blackdiamondequipment.com...rampons/neve-s... Remember the old clamp on roller skates? Mountain climbers have something called "crampons" which strap on like the old roller skates. But which have wicked sharp points to dig into ice. Golf cleat shoes may have beeen useful. I'm less sure about the golf cleats. It was suppose to be an effect of global warming that icing instances will start occurring much more often. When its bad, you loose your power, you run out of food, and can't go anywhere, and can't get gas, or anything. greg |
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On 2/2/2011 10:43 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
? "Stormin Mormon" wrote in message We got hit pretty hard over night (Monday night) with freezing rain that turned to ice. . . . We had 300 emergency room visits today in our city from people falling and getting hurt on the ice. I didn't go to the ER, but I did get a concussion yesterday. Slipped on ice under the snow and was on my back before I even realized I was falling, banged the back of my head on the ice. Scary for a few seconds because at first, I could not move at all. I'll have some effects for a few days, at least. I'm not going out at al today. I've fallen too many times, I suppose I take stupid risks and I have to learn to take it easy. Got a concussion once that made me loose my sense of taste and smell the next day, then it came back slowly in a couple days. Scary! Nowadays they don't tell you to stay awake anymore like they used to. Mostly get lots of rest and no sudden moves. |
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"---MIKE---" wrote in message ... Storman Morman asked: Which store, and how expensive? "Crampons" that are rubber based and pull on over shoes are sold by L.L.Bean for about $20. I never go out without them in the winter. Another type that has coiled springs for gripping (YakTraks) are ok on packed snow but don't grip well on ice. I don't know where my DH got them, but a few years ago he gave me a pair of fit-over-the-boots crampons. They're designed to just put on over whatever you're wearing, but after I stabbed myself twice trying to get them on and off, I grabbed an old pair of slip-ons and the crampons just stay on them all the time. I just put them on when I go out and leave them in the hall when I come back inside. Haven't fallen on the ice since! |
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: On 2/2/2011 1:16 PM, Han wrote: wrote in news:iic4r6$mno$1 @news.eternal-september.org: My dad, when in his 80's fell in the snow his parking lot and though unhurt could not get up and it was 15 minutes before someone found him. Make them wear an alert thingy. It works! I think the alert thingy only works in the house where the receiver is and besides a Tracfone is much cheaper - $10 vs ~$30/month. It is good for the confined elderly as it is always with them. I heard of one couple using it to summon help when their house was being burglarized. Dad died over 10 years ago at age 88 but spent the last 5 years in a nursing home after a stroke. The woman in the apartment below his heard him banging on the floor but if he had the alert thingy and was able to use it, it might have kept him out of the nursing home as rapid stroke response can save the further brain injury that occurs thereafter. The alert thingy hangs around your neck, so it is always with you. A cell phone may be in your pocket, or may be on the litchen counter or the nightstand when you fall next to the dining room table and break your hip. Happened to Dad, and the alert thingy got the neighbor there in a flash. -- Best regards Han email address is invalid |
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"Ed Pawlowski" wrote in
: ? "Han" wrote in message ... Frank wrote in news:iic4r6$mno$1 @news.eternal-september.org: My dad, when in his 80's fell in the snow his parking lot and though unhurt could not get up and it was 15 minutes before someone found him. Make them wear an alert thingy. It works! My wife fell in the driveway and had quite a wait. Now, she it not allowed to even go to the mailbox without a cellphone. She's had a couple of issues to warrant that. I'd still have her wear an alert thingy. When you're off to the grocery store she might fall inside the house. As I said, happened to Dad (after Mom had passed away). -- Best regards Han email address is invalid |
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"Stormin Mormon" wrote Ouch! Best wishes. Hope you aren't seriously hurt. Thanks. I still have to move a little slow if I'm going to stand or get up changing head position. A few other muscles are a little sore as I guess I tensed up when falling. Happened so fast I don't know. |
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On 2/2/2011 9:43 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
? "Stormin Mormon" wrote in message We got hit pretty hard over night (Monday night) with freezing rain that turned to ice. . . . We had 300 emergency room visits today in our city from people falling and getting hurt on the ice. I didn't go to the ER, but I did get a concussion yesterday. Slipped on ice under the snow and was on my back before I even realized I was falling, banged the back of my head on the ice. Scary for a few seconds because at first, I could not move at all. I'll have some effects for a few days, at least. I'm not going out at al today. Don't fool around with a head injury my friend, if you get dizzy or feel any lasting ill effects, please get checked out. You could at least give your doctor a call and let him/her know what happened to you and ask for their advice. I hope you're OK. TDD |
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On 2/2/2011 2:36 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
? "Han" wrote in message ... Frank wrote in news:iic4r6$mno$1 @news.eternal-september.org: My dad, when in his 80's fell in the snow his parking lot and though unhurt could not get up and it was 15 minutes before someone found him. Make them wear an alert thingy. It works! -- Best regards Han email address is invalid My wife fell in the driveway and had quite a wait. Now, she it not allowed to even go to the mailbox without a cellphone. She's had a couple of issues to warrant that. Even a cellphone that's not registered or signed up for any service, can still dial and call 911. Heck, I've seen prepaid cellphones for sale at less than $10. TDD |
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On 2/2/2011 11:23 AM, DGDevin wrote:
Remember the old clamp on roller skates? Mountain climbers have something called "crampons" which strap on like the old roller skates. But which have wicked sharp points to dig into ice. http://www.leevalley.com/US/garden/p...=2,51676,40911 I could have used them during our last ice storm recently where I slipped on my steep driveway. Fortunately I landed on all fours and only received a few scrapes. I was a lot more careful after that and stayed in until the danger passed. :-) TDD |
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On 2/2/2011 3:02 PM, zek wrote:
On Feb 2, 8:29 am, "Stormin Mormon" wrote: From another list. ====================== Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 9:38 PM We got hit pretty hard over night (Monday night) with freezing rain that turned to ice. I had an experience today that has me pondering on how better to be prepared in the future. I was at home working around the house. I heard someone yelling my name over and over from out- side. It sounded like my neighbor and my first thought was "Oh God, he's fallen in my driveway" but when I opened the door he wasn't there but still calling my name, so I looked down to his house (2 houses over) and there he was lying on the ground by his truck, in a pair of shorts, tshirt and moccassins. He said "Call 911 I've broken my leg". My stupid Verizon cell phone would not call out to 911 (I've had this problem before and they said they didn't know why, time definitely for new phones). Anyways, I called my friend across the street and had her call 911. I got on my boots and coat and tried to walk across my yard and could not move, it was solid thick sheet of ice so I could not get to him. He said "I'm so cold" my other friend had her teen girls run over with a blanket to cover him till the emergency squad came. We had 300 emergency room visits today in our city from people falling and getting hurt on the ice. Sorry long story but now my thoughts a The only alternative I can think of for me to have gotten to him without falling and breaking my leg, back, neck too was if I had those ski things, don't know what they are called but they are hand held sticks that skiers use to guide them in the snow. Would that work? And of course, our driveway and streets were even worse. Ends up my neighbor didn't break his leg but broke his knee instead and will have surgery tommorow. ===================== You may have been able to get there by crawling. Of course, gloves and knee pads would help. Your idea of ski poles may have worked. Another idea, is the one time I got my van stuck on ice, a salt truck spreading salt helped me to get enough traction to get off the ice. If you had enough rock salt or kitty litter, you might have been able to spread salt in front of yourself. http://www.blackdiamondequipment.com...rampons/neve-s... Remember the old clamp on roller skates? Mountain climbers have something called "crampons" which strap on like the old roller skates. But which have wicked sharp points to dig into ice. Golf cleat shoes may have beeen useful. I'm less sure about the golf cleats. It was suppose to be an effect of global warming that icing instances will start occurring much more often. When its bad, you loose your power, you run out of food, and can't go anywhere, and can't get gas, or anything. greg Darn that Global Warming,...er, Cooling,...er, Change,...er, Hope and Change,...er, I'll blame somebody or something. :-) TDD |
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Nothing like keeping the proletariat home, and
helpless. -- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "zek" wrote in message ... It was suppose to be an effect of global warming that icing instances will start occurring much more often. When its bad, you loose your power, you run out of food, and can't go anywhere, and can't get gas, or anything. greg |
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According to Obammy's teleprompter, it's a
result of the fiscal irresponsibility of the last eight years. They didn't spend enough, and now Zero has to make up for it. -- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "The Daring Dufas" wrote in message ... It was suppose to be an effect of global warming that icing instances will start occurring much more often. When its bad, you loose your power, you run out of food, and can't go anywhere, and can't get gas, or anything. greg Darn that Global Warming,...er, Cooling,...er, Change,...er, Hope and Change,...er, I'll blame somebody or something. :-) TDD |
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"Ed Pawlowski" wrote in
: Thanks. I still have to move a little slow if I'm going to stand or get up changing head position. A few other muscles are a little sore as I guess I tensed up when falling. Happened so fast I don't know. Blood pressure OK? While the concussion can have caused that, low blood pressure can also. As far as "Happened so fast I don't know" is concerned, I know about that. One moment I was walking along an edge ~ 1.5 foot over a playground area, the next I was flat on my back in the playsand, and my foot was on an impossible angle to my leg. It's been almost 7 months since they put a couple of plates and umpteen screws into my leg bones, and I'm basically back to normal, but slower and with more aches. THis snow isn't helping. -- Best regards Han email address is invalid |
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