OK, here's my scenario. I have a typical ranch/rambler with the attached
garage on the front in an L-shape. Previously a small part of the
garage-to-house entry was boxed in to create a laundry room, and this is
where the water heater also lives.

What I want to do is add an outside water spigot on the front of the garage.
The simplest way is to tap the cold water line in the laundry room, go up
into the garage roof framing, over and then down the front wall. The
laundry room is heated space, but the garage has been known to freeze in the
winter, so I'll add a cutoff inside the heated space.

Mainly my question is one of material. The obvious best is rigid copper,
but that's a buttload of work, expensive, and I'm lousy at sweating. Plus I
have a semi-enclosed bit of framing where I have to make a 90-degree turn
and can't really get in to lay pipe.

CPVC? Affordable and not hard to use, but the same problem with getting
through that boxed-in bit of framing.

PEX? I like it, but have never worked with it, and I don't have the right
tools.

PVC? Indoors?

My gut choice for this is polyethylene tubing, the same stuff we use to pipe
the refrigerator's ice maker. Very affordable and easy to snake through
enclosed spaces with no joins. I used the 3/8" stuff a few years ago to add
a filter housing to my kitchen sink, using the push-lock poly fittings.
Very easy and no leaks to date. But is it anything like code compliant?

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PEX? I like it, but have never worked with it, and I don't have the right
tools.

Check out these guys. Look into using compression fittings instead of
special tools.
http://www.pexsupply.com/resources/pexPlumbing


PVC? Indoors?

My gut choice for this is polyethylene tubing, the same stuff we use to
pipe
the refrigerator's ice maker. Very affordable and easy to snake through
enclosed spaces with no joins. I used the 3/8" stuff a few years ago to
add
a filter housing to my kitchen sink, using the push-lock poly fittings.
Very easy and no leaks to date. But is it anything like code compliant?

In a harsh environment, it can be brittle and burst. I'd not use it in a
hidden area like a garage attic.

On Jul 8, 11:12*pm, wrote:
On Fri, 09 Jul 2010 02:31:04 GMT,





wrote:
OK, here's my scenario. *I have a typical ranch/rambler with the attached
garage on the front in an L-shape. *Previously a small part of the
garage-to-house entry was boxed in to create a laundry room, and this is
where the water heater also lives.

What I want to do is add an outside water spigot on the front of the garage.
The simplest way is to tap the cold water line in the laundry room, go up
into the garage roof framing, over and then down the front wall. *The
laundry room is heated space, but the garage has been known to freeze in the
winter, so I'll add a cutoff inside the heated space.

Mainly my question is one of material. *The obvious best is rigid copper,
but that's a buttload of work, expensive, and I'm lousy at sweating. *Plus I
have a semi-enclosed bit of framing where I have to make a 90-degree turn
and can't really get in to lay pipe.

CPVC? *Affordable and not hard to use, but the same problem with getting
through that boxed-in bit of framing.

PEX? *I like it, but have never worked with it, and I don't have the right
tools.

PVC? *Indoors?

My gut choice for this is polyethylene tubing, the same stuff we use to pipe
the refrigerator's ice maker. *Very affordable and easy to snake through
enclosed spaces with no joins. *I used the 3/8" stuff a few years ago to add
a filter housing to my kitchen sink, using the push-lock poly fittings.
Very easy and no leaks to date. *But is it anything like code compliant?

Pex is the best choice from what you say. I think there are some
wrench type fittings for PEX. I have really never used it. Just be
sure you have a way to drain the pipe down when you turn the water
off. A hose bib on the feed end plus opening the hose bib will do it.- Hide quoted text -

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PEX is the way to go, some pex tools can be reanted or cheaper ones
are available check home depot

PEX is freeze resistant, freezing just expands it a bit............

Easy to run around obstructions

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OK, here's my scenario. I have a typical ranch/rambler with the attached
garage on the front in an L-shape. Previously a small part of the
garage-to-house entry was boxed in to create a laundry room, and this is
where the water heater also lives.

What I want to do is add an outside water spigot on the front of the garage.
The simplest way is to tap the cold water line in the laundry room, go up
into the garage roof framing, over and then down the front wall. The
laundry room is heated space, but the garage has been known to freeze in the
winter, so I'll add a cutoff inside the heated space.

Mainly my question is one of material. The obvious best is rigid copper,
but that's a buttload of work, expensive, and I'm lousy at sweating. Plus I
have a semi-enclosed bit of framing where I have to make a 90-degree turn
and can't really get in to lay pipe.

CPVC? Affordable and not hard to use, but the same problem with getting
through that boxed-in bit of framing.

PEX? I like it, but have never worked with it, and I don't have the right
tools.

PVC? Indoors?

My gut choice for this is polyethylene tubing, the same stuff we use to pipe
the refrigerator's ice maker. Very affordable and easy to snake through
enclosed spaces with no joins. I used the 3/8" stuff a few years ago to add
a filter housing to my kitchen sink, using the push-lock poly fittings.
Very easy and no leaks to date. But is it anything like code compliant?

Hi.
Use PEX and rent tool(s) you need from HD by the hour if want.

On Fri, 09 Jul 2010 02:31:04 GMT,
wrote:


My gut choice for this is polyethylene tubing, the same stuff we use to pipe
the refrigerator's ice maker.

Well, IMO, you shouldn't have used that for the ice maker either.
They will spring a leak, with no provocation. In the middle of the
hose, not at the end even. Replace it with copper tubing. At that
thickenss you can just bend the stuff. Maybe for bending you should
wrap it around a tube or cylinder so that it doesn't kink.

A friend's tubing to her ice maker started leaking, fortunately when
there was a party in her basement and someone noticed. The fridge was
in the kitchen on the first floor. The PE tubing to my hunidifier
broke all by itself too.

Neither of these were harsh enviromnents, certainly not the girl's and
even in my case, the leak was 30 inches from the furance, so I don't
think the heat did it, since the furnace is in the basement where it
never gets very hot. I didn't notice the hose being brittle either.

Very affordable and easy to snake through
enclosed spaces with no joins. I used the 3/8" stuff a few years ago to add
a filter housing to my kitchen sink, using the push-lock poly fittings.
Very easy and no leaks to date. But is it anything like code compliant?

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On 7/8/2010 10:31 PM, wrote:
OK, here's my scenario. I have a typical ranch/rambler with the attached
garage on the front in an L-shape. Previously a small part of the
garage-to-house entry was boxed in to create a laundry room, and this is
where the water heater also lives.

What I want to do is add an outside water spigot on the front of the garage.
The simplest way is to tap the cold water line in the laundry room, go up
into the garage roof framing, over and then down the front wall. The
laundry room is heated space, but the garage has been known to freeze in the
winter, so I'll add a cutoff inside the heated space.

Mainly my question is one of material. The obvious best is rigid copper,
but that's a buttload of work, expensive, and I'm lousy at sweating. Plus I
have a semi-enclosed bit of framing where I have to make a 90-degree turn
and can't really get in to lay pipe.

CPVC? Affordable and not hard to use, but the same problem with getting
through that boxed-in bit of framing.

PEX? I like it, but have never worked with it, and I don't have the right
tools.



PEX is easier than you think and you don't have to pay a fortune for the
tools. Here's a PEX cinch clamp crimper for $31 shipped:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=290407071641

The only other stuff you need are some stainless steel cinch clamps.
Here's a kit from the same seller that has the crimping tool, 100 clamps
(of 1/2" and 3/4" size) and a tubing cutter for $65.

Another alternative is to rent from Home Depot or Lowes. They've got
these available.

My girlfriend asked me to install an outdoor spicket for her to use
watering her flowers. I agreed to do it thinking I would be working with
copper. When I got under her house, imagine my horror when I saw PEX!
I didn't know anything about it.

A little research initially suggested that the tools ran $150 on up to
about $300. My horror increased. But then I found there is more than
one type of PEX clamp and the cinch type use a much cheaper tool. Then
I watched a youtube video on how to make PEX connections.

It's really easy... much easier than working with copper. You just make
a 90° cut in your tubing, stuff the fitting into the tube and then apply
the clamp. You have to put a little ass on the clamp to make it go but
it's very positive; you'll know when it's right. After you've done a
couple of them it gets very quick and easy.

The fittings and the PEX itself are available at any plumbing supply
department... once again Lowes or HD.



Jay

On Jul 9, 7:09*am, Jay Hanig wrote:
On 7/8/2010 10:31 PM, wrote:





OK, here's my scenario. *I have a typical ranch/rambler with the attached
garage on the front in an L-shape. *Previously a small part of the
garage-to-house entry was boxed in to create a laundry room, and this is
where the water heater also lives.

What I want to do is add an outside water spigot on the front of the garage.
The simplest way is to tap the cold water line in the laundry room, go up
into the garage roof framing, over and then down the front wall. *The
laundry room is heated space, but the garage has been known to freeze in the
winter, so I'll add a cutoff inside the heated space.

Mainly my question is one of material. *The obvious best is rigid copper,
but that's a buttload of work, expensive, and I'm lousy at sweating. *Plus I
have a semi-enclosed bit of framing where I have to make a 90-degree turn
and can't really get in to lay pipe.

CPVC? *Affordable and not hard to use, but the same problem with getting
through that boxed-in bit of framing.

PEX? *I like it, but have never worked with it, and I don't have the right
tools.

PEX is easier than you think and you don't have to pay a fortune for the
tools. *Here's a PEX cinch clamp crimper for $31 shipped:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=290407071641

The only other stuff you need are some stainless steel cinch clamps.
Here's a kit from the same seller that has the crimping tool, 100 clamps
(of 1/2" and 3/4" size) and a tubing cutter for $65.

Another alternative is to rent from Home Depot or Lowes. *They've got
these available.

My girlfriend asked me to install an outdoor spicket for her to use
watering her flowers. I agreed to do it thinking I would be working with
copper. *When I got under her house, imagine my horror when I saw PEX!
I didn't know anything about it.

A little research initially suggested that the tools ran $150 on up to
about $300. *My horror increased. *But then I found there is more than
one type of PEX clamp and the cinch type use a much cheaper tool. *Then
I watched a youtube video on how to make PEX connections.

It's really easy... much easier than working with copper. *You just make
a 90° cut in your tubing, stuff the fitting into the tube and then apply
the clamp. *You have to put a little ass on the clamp to make it go but
it's very positive; you'll know when it's right. *After you've done a
couple of them it gets very quick and easy.

The fittings and the PEX itself are available at any plumbing supply
department... once again Lowes or HD.

Jay- Hide quoted text -

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I'd find an alternative location. That much exposed pipe is going to
get frozen by someone forgetting eventually.

On Jul 8, 10:31*pm, wrote:
OK, here's my scenario. *I have a typical ranch/rambler with the attached
garage on the front in an L-shape. *Previously a small part of the
garage-to-house entry was boxed in to create a laundry room, and this is
where the water heater also lives.

What I want to do is add an outside water spigot on the front of the garage.
The simplest way is to tap the cold water line in the laundry room, go up
into the garage roof framing, over and then down the front wall. *The
laundry room is heated space, but the garage has been known to freeze in the
winter, so I'll add a cutoff inside the heated space.

Mainly my question is one of material. *The obvious best is rigid copper,
but that's a buttload of work, expensive, and I'm lousy at sweating. *Plus I
have a semi-enclosed bit of framing where I have to make a 90-degree turn
and can't really get in to lay pipe.

CPVC? *Affordable and not hard to use, but the same problem with getting
through that boxed-in bit of framing.

PEX? *I like it, but have never worked with it, and I don't have the right
tools.

PVC? *Indoors?

My gut choice for this is polyethylene tubing, the same stuff we use to pipe
the refrigerator's ice maker. *Very affordable and easy to snake through
enclosed spaces with no joins. *I used the 3/8" stuff a few years ago to add
a filter housing to my kitchen sink, using the push-lock poly fittings.
Very easy and no leaks to date. *But is it anything like code compliant?

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So here is a question in return to you...

If the install at the desired location (i.e. front wall of garage) is
so
uber complicated that you are considering using alternative materials
to install that one run of pipe, why not save yourself some
aggravation
and install the outside faucet on the laundry room wall and just buy
a longer hose ?

Hmm... Sounds almost too simple...

~~ Evan

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OK, here's my scenario. I have a typical ranch/rambler with the attached
garage on the front in an L-shape. Previously a small part of the
garage-to-house entry was boxed in to create a laundry room, and this is
where the water heater also lives.

What I want to do is add an outside water spigot on the front of the garage.
The simplest way is to tap the cold water line in the laundry room, go up
into the garage roof framing, over and then down the front wall. The
laundry room is heated space, but the garage has been known to freeze in the
winter, so I'll add a cutoff inside the heated space.

Mainly my question is one of material. The obvious best is rigid copper,
but that's a buttload of work, expensive, and I'm lousy at sweating. Plus I
have a semi-enclosed bit of framing where I have to make a 90-degree turn
and can't really get in to lay pipe.

CPVC? Affordable and not hard to use, but the same problem with getting
through that boxed-in bit of framing.

PEX? I like it, but have never worked with it, and I don't have the right
tools.


You don't need Pex tools if you use Sharkbite fittings.
http://www.pexsupply.com/SharkBite-P...ittings-588000
PVC? Indoors?

My gut choice for this is polyethylene tubing, the same stuff we use to pipe
the refrigerator's ice maker. Very affordable and easy to snake through
enclosed spaces with no joins. I used the 3/8" stuff a few years ago to add
a filter housing to my kitchen sink, using the push-lock poly fittings.
Very easy and no leaks to date. But is it anything like code compliant?




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On Fri, 09 Jul 2010 10:44:49 -0400, in alt.home.repair, willshak
wrote:

wrote the following:
What I want to do is add an outside water spigot on the front of the garage.

You don't need Pex tools if you use Sharkbite fittings.
http://www.pexsupply.com/SharkBite-P...ittings-588000

Ah, seems like PEX is a better condender than I'd thought. Thanks to
everyone who responeded with a suggestion, I appreciate it!

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On Fri, 9 Jul 2010 07:28:44 -0700 (PDT), in alt.home.repair, Evan
wrote:

On Jul 8, 10:31=A0pm, wrote:
What I want to do is add an outside water spigot on the front of the garage.
So here is a question in return to you...

If the install at the desired location (i.e. front wall of garage) is so
uber complicated that you are considering using alternative materials
to install that one run of pipe, why not save yourself some aggravation
and install the outside faucet on the laundry room wall and just buy
a longer hose ?

Some men will pound down a popped nail a thousand times instead of yanking
it out and installing a screw.

Hmm... Sounds almost too simple...

Considering the number of unstated facts that you do not have and thus
cannot consider, yes, your solution is too simple and in fact does not solve
my problem. But thanks for taking the time to suggest it.

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On Fri, 9 Jul 2010 07:28:44 -0700 (PDT), in alt.home.repair, Evan

wrote:
On Jul 8, 10:31=A0pm, wrote:
What I want to do is add an outside water spigot on the front of the garage.
So here is a question in return to you...

If the install at the desired location (i.e. front wall of garage) is so
uber complicated that you are considering using alternative materials
to install that one run of pipe, why not save yourself some aggravation
and install the outside faucet on the laundry room wall and just buy
a longer hose ?

Some men will pound down a popped nail a thousand times instead of yanking
it out and installing a screw.

Hmm... *Sounds almost too simple...

Considering the number of unstated facts that you do not have and thus
cannot consider, yes, your solution is too simple and in fact does not solve
my problem. *But thanks for taking the time to suggest it.

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No, it is merely the easiest solution since you by your own admission
can't sweat copper pipes (which indicates you should let someone
else do this project as that is a basic fundamental task in plumbing)
and have no experience with the other types of plumbing you mentioned
(again by your own admission)...

And you are deluded if you think you will be able to fish a pipe or
some
sort of tubing down the inside of a wall without opening it up to
attach
it at several points inside the wall to actual structure...

So, umm yeah... Popping a faucet out on the wall of the "Previously
enclosed garage-to-house entry area that is now a laundry room" is
actually the simplest and smartest way to go for someone in your
situation if you insist on doing this work yourself...

It is ALWAYS easier for a DIY-er to buy a longer hose to attach
to the faucet than it is for them to install the behind-the-scenes
things that you need to know how to do in order to have that
hose bib located exactly where you want it... I would go with
the longer hose as it will save you a hundred dollars in materials
if you do the job yourself and close to $500 in labor when
you figure out you are in over your head and hire someone to
finish what you started...

I mean unless you were hoping that we would all be able to
guess what your unstated facts are, because GOOD advice
comes from people who possess a better awareness of the
situation, so you should have stated those facts so they
could be considered... I mean unless you were trying to
tell us all unconsciously by pointing out how poor your
rough in plumbing skills are that you were hoping people
here would talk you out of this...

Why not disclose the unstated facts and let us all know
why the hose bib needs to be precisely on the front wall
of the garage and that nowhere else within 10 feet on the
front of your house would fulfill the need of a water spout
to be used outside ?

~~ Evan

On Sun, 11 Jul 2010 19:50:50 -0700 (PDT), in alt.home.repair, Evan
wrote:

I mean unless you were hoping that we would all be able to
guess what your unstated facts are, because GOOD advice
comes from people who possess a better awareness of the
situation, so you should have stated those facts so they
could be considered...

Do you have experience with designing environmental alterations to
accomodate physical disabilities, mobility impairments and chronic pain? If
not, count your blessings. Assume that I've analyzed the situation and
found a suitable solution.

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On Jul 8, 10:31*pm, wrote:
OK, here's my scenario. *I have a typical ranch/rambler with the attached
garage on the front in an L-shape. *Previously a small part of the
garage-to-house entry was boxed in to create a laundry room, and this is
where the water heater also lives.

What I want to do is add an outside water spigot on the front of the garage.
The simplest way is to tap the cold water line in the laundry room, go up
into the garage roof framing, over and then down the front wall. *The
laundry room is heated space, but the garage has been known to freeze in the
winter, so I'll add a cutoff inside the heated space.

Mainly my question is one of material. *The obvious best is rigid copper,
but that's a buttload of work, expensive, and I'm lousy at sweating. *Plus I
have a semi-enclosed bit of framing where I have to make a 90-degree turn
and can't really get in to lay pipe.

CPVC? *Affordable and not hard to use, but the same problem with getting
through that boxed-in bit of framing.

PEX? *I like it, but have never worked with it, and I don't have the right
tools.

PVC? *Indoors?

My gut choice for this is polyethylene tubing, the same stuff we use to pipe
the refrigerator's ice maker. *Very affordable and easy to snake through
enclosed spaces with no joins. *I used the 3/8" stuff a few years ago to add
a filter housing to my kitchen sink, using the push-lock poly fittings.
Very easy and no leaks to date. *But is it anything like code compliant?

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Have you considered PEX and Sharkbite fittings?

No tools required other than a sharp blade. Yes, there are PEX cutting
tools, but a sharp blade works just fine, especially for one-time
jobs.

There is also a ~$3.00 tool for removing Shark Bite fittings, but they
can be disconnected without it.

Shark Bite fittings are a bit more expensive than other fittings, but
for what sounds like one-time job, they may be well worth the money.

Shark Bites work for Copper and PEX, so transitioning between the 2
materials requires no tools - other than a pipe cutter for the copper.

My HD has a whole display set-up of the different fittings. If I
needed a large number, I'd go to a plumbing supply store, but for one
or two, HD is fine.

Look here - it really is this easy.

http://www.sharkbiteplumbing.com/how-it-works

On Jul 12, 1:44*pm, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Jul 8, 10:31*pm, wrote:





OK, here's my scenario. *I have a typical ranch/rambler with the attached
garage on the front in an L-shape. *Previously a small part of the
garage-to-house entry was boxed in to create a laundry room, and this is
where the water heater also lives.

What I want to do is add an outside water spigot on the front of the garage.
The simplest way is to tap the cold water line in the laundry room, go up
into the garage roof framing, over and then down the front wall. *The
laundry room is heated space, but the garage has been known to freeze in the
winter, so I'll add a cutoff inside the heated space.

Mainly my question is one of material. *The obvious best is rigid copper,
but that's a buttload of work, expensive, and I'm lousy at sweating. *Plus I
have a semi-enclosed bit of framing where I have to make a 90-degree turn
and can't really get in to lay pipe.

CPVC? *Affordable and not hard to use, but the same problem with getting
through that boxed-in bit of framing.

PEX? *I like it, but have never worked with it, and I don't have the right
tools.

PVC? *Indoors?

My gut choice for this is polyethylene tubing, the same stuff we use to pipe
the refrigerator's ice maker. *Very affordable and easy to snake through
enclosed spaces with no joins. *I used the 3/8" stuff a few years ago to add
a filter housing to my kitchen sink, using the push-lock poly fittings.
Very easy and no leaks to date. *But is it anything like code compliant?

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Have you considered PEX and Sharkbite fittings?

No tools required other than a sharp blade. Yes, there are PEX cutting
tools, but a sharp blade works just fine, especially for one-time
jobs.

There is also a ~$3.00 tool for removing Shark Bite fittings, but they
can be disconnected without it.

Shark Bite fittings are a bit more expensive than other fittings, but
for what sounds like one-time job, they may be well worth the money.

Shark Bites work for Copper and PEX, so transitioning between the 2
materials requires no tools - other than a pipe cutter for the copper.

My HD has a whole display set-up of the different fittings. If I
needed a large number, I'd go to a plumbing supply store, but for one
or two, HD is fine.

Look here - it really is this easy.

http://www.sharkbiteplumbing.com/how-it-works- Hide quoted text -

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The sharkbite stuff does work pretty well if you just have a few
connections to make. They are pricey though, $5 to $10 apiece. I
recently used a couple to transition from cpvc to pex and back. It's
nice that you can take the connection apart too.

On Jul 12, 1:51*pm, jamesgangnc wrote:
On Jul 12, 1:44*pm, DerbyDad03 wrote:





On Jul 8, 10:31*pm, wrote:

OK, here's my scenario. *I have a typical ranch/rambler with the attached
garage on the front in an L-shape. *Previously a small part of the
garage-to-house entry was boxed in to create a laundry room, and this is
where the water heater also lives.

What I want to do is add an outside water spigot on the front of the garage.
The simplest way is to tap the cold water line in the laundry room, go up
into the garage roof framing, over and then down the front wall. *The
laundry room is heated space, but the garage has been known to freeze in the
winter, so I'll add a cutoff inside the heated space.

Mainly my question is one of material. *The obvious best is rigid copper,
but that's a buttload of work, expensive, and I'm lousy at sweating. *Plus I
have a semi-enclosed bit of framing where I have to make a 90-degree turn
and can't really get in to lay pipe.

CPVC? *Affordable and not hard to use, but the same problem with getting
through that boxed-in bit of framing.

PEX? *I like it, but have never worked with it, and I don't have the right
tools.

PVC? *Indoors?

My gut choice for this is polyethylene tubing, the same stuff we use to pipe
the refrigerator's ice maker. *Very affordable and easy to snake through
enclosed spaces with no joins. *I used the 3/8" stuff a few years ago to add
a filter housing to my kitchen sink, using the push-lock poly fittings.
Very easy and no leaks to date. *But is it anything like code compliant?

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Have you considered PEX and Sharkbite fittings?

No tools required other than a sharp blade. Yes, there are PEX cutting
tools, but a sharp blade works just fine, especially for one-time
jobs.

There is also a ~$3.00 tool for removing Shark Bite fittings, but they
can be disconnected without it.

Shark Bite fittings are a bit more expensive than other fittings, but
for what sounds like one-time job, they may be well worth the money.

Shark Bites work for Copper and PEX, so transitioning between the 2
materials requires no tools - other than a pipe cutter for the copper.

My HD has a whole display set-up of the different fittings. If I
needed a large number, I'd go to a plumbing supply store, but for one
or two, HD is fine.

Look here - it really is this easy.

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The sharkbite stuff does work pretty well if you just have a few
connections to make. *They are pricey though, $5 to $10 apiece. *I
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$5 - $10 is a little high from what I've seen, but I guess it depends
on what you buy and where you buy them - geographic location and
supplier.

For a job I recently did I sweated together a 6 connection section on
my workbench and then used 1 Shark Bite to connect it to a PEX run and
another Shark Bite to tap the PEX into a copper run on the other side
of the basement.

No sweating up in the joist bays and really simple to run the PEX over
the ductwork instead of trying to sweat multiple lengths of copper in
order to cross the basement. The swivel feature of the Shark Bites is
a huge advantage, especially when installing a T, and probably worth
the extra cost all on its own.

The other advantage is being able to work on wet pipes. A few weeks
ago I had to cut and cap a vertical pipe to get ready for a bigger
job. I turned off the main, cut the pipe, slipped the Shark Bite cap
on and turned the water back on - all before the wife, who was cooking
dinner at the time, even knew I had turned the water off!

It would have taken me longer just to gather the supplies I would have
needed to sweat the cap on, never mind figureing out how to get the
water out of the pipe.

On Sun, 11 Jul 2010 22:19:59 GMT,
wrote:

Ah, seems like PEX is a better condender than I'd thought. Thanks to
everyone who responeded with a suggestion, I appreciate it!

PEX is the cat's meow.

For the outside hose bib you will need a transition stub-out (pex
copper) secured to a stud in the wall ("support").

If you have a Ferguson plumbing near you, they will help you in
necessary connectors. See locations by Zip code.....

http://www.ferguson.com/index.shtml