On Feb 5, 8:53 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
"Amanda" wrote in message

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On Feb 5, 4:19 pm, (Doug Miller) wrote:
In article .com,
"Amanda" wrote:

Hey, I was testing, okay? It's not liek I put it there and fall
asleep. I tuned it off before I sleep. And I wasn't doing it except
for a couple of nights when it was too cold. I didn't like to use
central heating because I hate getting out of bed to turn it off. if I
don't, it gets hot and wake me up in the middle of the night.

You can eliminate that problem with a setback thermostat, for twenty
bucks or
so at Lowe's or Home Depot. Pays for itself within a month or so, too.

Not my house and I am moving out soon.
And you are plonked.

Somebody recommends a thermostat and you get bent out of shape?

So you are going to pretend like I plonked you because seomone
recommended me a thermostat?

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On Feb 5, 8:53 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
"Amanda" wrote in message

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On Feb 5, 4:19 pm, (Doug Miller) wrote:
In article .com,
"Amanda" wrote:

Hey, I was testing, okay? It's not liek I put it there and fall
asleep. I tuned it off before I sleep. And I wasn't doing it except
for a couple of nights when it was too cold. I didn't like to use
central heating because I hate getting out of bed to turn it off. if
I
don't, it gets hot and wake me up in the middle of the night.

You can eliminate that problem with a setback thermostat, for twenty
bucks or
so at Lowe's or Home Depot. Pays for itself within a month or so, too.

Not my house and I am moving out soon.
And you are plonked.

Somebody recommends a thermostat and you get bent out of shape?

So you are going to pretend like I plonked you because seomone
recommended me a thermostat?


You didn't "plonk" me, or you would be seeing my message. Your tirade was
directed at whoever it was that suggested a setback thermostat. Try to keep
the messages straight, even in your state of rage.

On Feb 5, 4:31 pm, mm wrote:
On 5 Feb 2007 12:54:50 -0800, "Amanda" wrote:



So it stopped working altogether and I wonder whether it's just the
wire blowing up. I have a family friend, like a brother, an
Electrical Engineer, who will be visiting me in a week or two. I am

One would think that any electical engineer would know how to fix such
things better than I do, or at least that all are interested in fixing
electrical things, but I'm pretty that not all do or are. So don't
give him a hard time if he begs off.

I didn't plan on insisting he fixed it. I was just going ask to take a
look and see whether it's fixable easily.

I'm sure he knows electrical engineering better than I do/

thinking to ask him to take a look if it is just the wire. This unit
has some sort of sensor, right? Could that be that sensor?

OTOH, if he will be interested, you should either have a supply of
tools available somewhere or warn him before he leaves home.

Home Depot is 5 mins w/ no highway travel from me. Whetevr he needs,
we could get it.

I keep having to buy voltmeters when I visit my brother, because I don't
normally keep one in my suitcase, and more than once I"ve needed one
to fix something he has. At least I could get a different model each
time, and I was saving him money. I really have enough voltmeters
now, so I hope I remember to take one in my suitcase, but the TSA will
probably think it is a bomb.

I don't want to bother him if it is the sensor that got damaged
instead.

I have doubts about sleeping with the heater. Electric heating pads
warn against sleeping with the pad because, they say, you may end up
lying on the pad, and indeed my mother did once and got a burn that
did not heal quickly.

I am a very light sleeper. And I don't fall asleep when noisy and when
it's hot. This heater is not quiet as advertised. If I dozed off for
a reason and get burned, I would only blame myself, not my luck.


Not the same thing as a heater of course, but I wonder how hot the air
gets and if it could set fire to the sheets and blankets.

This heater has auto shut off feature when it gets too hot.

A heating blanket is the most efficient way to stay warm when in bed.

I don't want to stay warm.

Anything made in the last 20 or 25 years has been redesigned in case
there was anything to the fears about low frequency radiation. WRT
high-tension lines, they finally decided it was not a problem, but I
think once they redesigned electric blankets, they stopped doing
research on the old ones. ??

I might buy an electric throw but I am trying not to watch *any* tv
anymore. Lately, if I watched any, I dozed off anyway. That's how
boring everything on TV is these days.

On Feb 5, 8:54 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
"Amanda" wrote in message

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On Feb 5, 6:54 pm, "Michael B" wrote:
Optimum night temperature is 64 degrees when you're
all snugged under the covers. A setback thermostat could do
that for you automatically, and it's usually just a matter of
putting the right colored wire to the right spot.

You guys are talking as if you know w/o asking me how the air
distribtuion through the air ducts in this house works. You have NO
clue what I had to do to get air (hot or cold) where I need during the
day w/o having to do a lot more work.

Of course, you can tell me to get a professional look into fixing ...
but like I said, this is not my house and I limit what I would do and
how much I will allow myself to be subjected to be cheated by so
called A/C person or electrician or plumber or lawn care person or
pest control or carpet cleaning people or ...need I say more?.

I deal with it the way I see fit. If I need any suggestion, I will ask
*SPECIFICALLY* like I always do.

Good rule of thumb for life:

Never forget how little you really know.

Did I say the opposite?

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On Feb 5, 8:39 pm, "Terry" wrote:
On Feb 5, 3:54 pm, "Amanda" wrote:



Anyway, I was abusive of this small heater, not waiting for 10 mins
before trying to start again when it stops partly because I didn't
remember about the tiny print on the back that says to wait for 10
mins when ti stops. (I just saw it when broguth next to my PC for no
apparent reason.)

So it stopped working altogether and I wonder whether it's just the
wire blowing up. I have a family friend, like a brother, an
Electrical Engineer, who will be visiting me in a week or two. I am
thinking to ask him to take a look if it is just the wire. This unit
has some sort of sensor, right? Could that be that sensor?

I don't want to bother him if it is the sensor that got damaged
instead.

I would not use the heater. It sounds like the thermal protection was
working properly. It sounds to me like there are problems other than
the protection, and it is a good thing that the protection was
working.

You can get a new one at Walmart for 20$ I just did, and it came with
a 3 year warranty.

Why risk a fire? Toss it.

Good point. I plan to use for .. say 2 mins only, placing the clothes
I would wear in front of it but not too close.

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:

"Amanda" wrote in message
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On Feb 5, 6:54 pm, "Michael B" wrote:

Optimum night temperature is 64 degrees when you're
all snugged under the covers. A setback thermostat could do
that for you automatically, and it's usually just a matter of
putting the right colored wire to the right spot.

You guys are talking as if you know w/o asking me how the air
distribtuion through the air ducts in this house works. You have NO
clue what I had to do to get air (hot or cold) where I need during the
day w/o having to do a lot more work.

Of course, you can tell me to get a professional look into fixing ...
but like I said, this is not my house and I limit what I would do and
how much I will allow myself to be subjected to be cheated by so
called A/C person or electrician or plumber or lawn care person or
pest control or carpet cleaning people or ...need I say more?.

I deal with it the way I see fit. If I need any suggestion, I will ask
*SPECIFICALLY* like I always do.



Good rule of thumb for life: Never forget how little you really know.


Yup!
Good knowledge is how little you know. At least I learned that, LOL!
Fixing 3 year old heater by a pro? Time to replace it with new one, IMO.
Heater needs air to circulate, never operate it under the blanket on
bed. If you leave your bedroom door open during night, your room might
be warmer.

Amanda wrote:

On Feb 5, 4:19 pm, (Doug Miller) wrote:

In article .com, "Amanda" wrote:




Hey, I was testing, okay? It's not liek I put it there and fall
asleep. I tuned it off before I sleep. And I wasn't doing it except
for a couple of nights when it was too cold. I didn't like to use
central heating because I hate getting out of bed to turn it off. if I
don't, it gets hot and wake me up in the middle of the night.

You can eliminate that problem with a setback thermostat, for twenty bucks or
so at Lowe's or Home Depot. Pays for itself within a month or so, too.


Not my house and I am moving out soon.
And you are plonked.


--
Regards,
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)

It's time to throw all their damned tea in the harbor again.



This person is not NICE at all, plonk as well!

"Michael B" wrote in message
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We used to have a cold house at night, we had "space blankets"
under the Mattress pad. No doubt about it, it's so much better
than having a cold mattress.


Space Blankets are incredible. They have gotten me through a few camping
emergency situations.

Steve

Tony Hwang wrote:
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:

"Amanda" wrote in message
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On Feb 5, 6:54 pm, "Michael B" wrote:

Optimum night temperature is 64 degrees when you're
all snugged under the covers. A setback thermostat could do
that for you automatically, and it's usually just a matter of
putting the right colored wire to the right spot.


You guys are talking as if you know w/o asking me how the air
distribtuion through the air ducts in this house works. You have NO
clue what I had to do to get air (hot or cold) where I need during the
day w/o having to do a lot more work.

Of course, you can tell me to get a professional look into fixing ...
but like I said, this is not my house and I limit what I would do and
how much I will allow myself to be subjected to be cheated by so
called A/C person or electrician or plumber or lawn care person or
pest control or carpet cleaning people or ...need I say more?.

I deal with it the way I see fit. If I need any suggestion, I will ask
*SPECIFICALLY* like I always do.




Good rule of thumb for life: Never forget how little you really know.

Yup!
Good knowledge is how little you know. At least I learned that, LOL!
Fixing 3 year old heater by a pro? Time to replace it with new one, IMO.
Heater needs air to circulate, never operate it under the blanket on
bed. If you leave your bedroom door open during night, your room might
be warmer.
Hmmm,
And Sounds like you have poor circulation problem. I mean your blood
circulation. Not a good thing!

"Tony Hwang" wrote in message
news:_LUxh.900709$5R2.436986@pd7urf3no...


Yup!
Good knowledge is how little you know. At least I learned that, LOL!
Fixing 3 year old heater by a pro? Time to replace it with new one, IMO.
Heater needs air to circulate, never operate it under the blanket on bed.
If you leave your bedroom door open during night, your room might be
warmer.
Hmmm,
And Sounds like you have poor circulation problem. I mean your blood
circulation. Not a good thing!


For younger women, a series of beef injections usually helps with
circulation.

On Feb 5, 9:19 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
"Amanda" wrote in message

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On Feb 5, 8:53 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
"Amanda" wrote in message

roups.com...

On Feb 5, 4:19 pm, (Doug Miller) wrote:
In article .com,
"Amanda" wrote:

Hey, I was testing, okay? It's not liek I put it there and fall
asleep. I tuned it off before I sleep. And I wasn't doing it except
for a couple of nights when it was too cold. I didn't like to use
central heating because I hate getting out of bed to turn it off. if
I
don't, it gets hot and wake me up in the middle of the night.

You can eliminate that problem with a setback thermostat, for twenty
bucks or
so at Lowe's or Home Depot. Pays for itself within a month or so, too.

Not my house and I am moving out soon.
And you are plonked.

Somebody recommends a thermostat and you get bent out of shape?

So you are going to pretend like I plonked you because seomone
recommended me a thermostat?

You didn't "plonk" me, or you would be seeing my message.

I planned to.

Your tirade was directed at whoever it was that suggested a setback
thermostat. Try to keep the messages straight, even in your state of rage.-
Yes, (and for the term you used at one point) becasue, he talked like
msart Alec as if he know show things work in my place.

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On Feb 5, 9:30 pm, Tony Hwang wrote:
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Amanda" wrote in message
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On Feb 5, 6:54 pm, "Michael B" wrote:

Optimum night temperature is 64 degrees when you're
all snugged under the covers. A setback thermostat could do
that for you automatically, and it's usually just a matter of
putting the right colored wire to the right spot.

You guys are talking as if you know w/o asking me how the air
distribtuion through the air ducts in this house works. You have NO
clue what I had to do to get air (hot or cold) where I need during the
day w/o having to do a lot more work.

Of course, you can tell me to get a professional look into fixing ...
but like I said, this is not my house and I limit what I would do and
how much I will allow myself to be subjected to be cheated by so
called A/C person or electrician or plumber or lawn care person or
pest control or carpet cleaning people or ...need I say more?.

I deal with it the way I see fit. If I need any suggestion, I will ask
*SPECIFICALLY* like I always do.

Good rule of thumb for life: Never forget how little you really know.

Yup!
Good knowledge is how little you know. At least I learned that, LOL!
Fixing 3 year old heater by a pro?

Who said anything about fixing? Who said he was a pro? I said "if it
waswring problem" and I said "He is an EE". Beside, there's a reason I
didn't say "3 year old" heater. I said "I got it for $25 at Walmart 3
years ago. Until recently, I didn't use it much - I used to only to
take the chill out of the bed sheet for like a VERY short period in
winter." That menas I used it for like 2-4 mins each night and only a
very short period, not the whole winter.


Time to replace it with new one, IMO.
Heater needs air to circulate, never operate it under the blanket on
bed. If you leave your bedroom door open during night, your room might
be warmer.

Yeah right. See design below

*************************************************
* * *
* * *
* Entrance B *
* * *
* * *
* * *
**** Entrance A*******************************

Entrance A = Door to room form hallway

Entrance B = Entrance to 2 basins, 2 closet, on shower room, one
jacizzi.

Until a few days ago, when I got oil-filled randiant heater, I left
Entrance A opened always and did nothing to Entrance B.

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On Feb 6, 6:03 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
"Tony Hwang" wrote in message

news:_LUxh.900709$5R2.436986@pd7urf3no...

Yup!
Good knowledge is how little you know. At least I learned that, LOL!
Fixing 3 year old heater by a pro? Time to replace it with new one, IMO.
Heater needs air to circulate, never operate it under the blanket on bed.
If you leave your bedroom door open during night, your room might be
warmer.
Hmmm,
And Sounds like you have poor circulation problem. I mean your blood
circulation. Not a good thing!

For younger women, a series of beef injections usually helps with
circulation.

Younger as in what age range? I have been like this all my life, but
was in hot and humid climate. Wearing cotton socks was enough.

If there really is such a thing, I would check into it. After
realizing how unproductive I have become int he morning when trying to
work in the study room ( faced away from the rising sun) after moving
into this hosue, I started wearing cashmere blend leg warmer and it
solved the problem. Came from another state (hot and humid) and
didn't realize that leg warmer would do the trick though I did get
different sweater and jackets and cashmere blend socks.

In article .com, Amanda
says...

On Feb 6, 6:03 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
"Tony Hwang" wrote in message

news:_LUxh.900709$5R2.436986@pd7urf3no...

Yup!
Good knowledge is how little you know. At least I learned that, LOL!
Fixing 3 year old heater by a pro? Time to replace it with new one, IMO.
Heater needs air to circulate, never operate it under the blanket on bed.
If you leave your bedroom door open during night, your room might be
warmer.
Hmmm,
And Sounds like you have poor circulation problem. I mean your blood
circulation. Not a good thing!

For younger women, a series of beef injections usually helps with
circulation.

Younger as in what age range? I have been like this all my life, but
was in hot and humid climate. Wearing cotton socks was enough.

If there really is such a thing, I would check into it. After
realizing how unproductive I have become int he morning when trying to
work in the study room ( faced away from the rising sun) after moving
into this hosue, I started wearing cashmere blend leg warmer and it
solved the problem. Came from another state (hot and humid) and
didn't realize that leg warmer would do the trick though I did get
different sweater and jackets and cashmere blend socks.


Oh, jees.

"JoeSpareBedroom", others. C'mon, find somewhere else to get your jollies, OK?
Obviously this is someone who just needs a few questions answered. Are there no
elders or others in your family needing a bit of extra help (in more ways than
one)? Don't you recognize that? Is this what you do about it?

Banty

"Banty" wrote in message
...
In article .com, Amanda
says...

On Feb 6, 6:03 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
"Tony Hwang" wrote in message

news:_LUxh.900709$5R2.436986@pd7urf3no...

Yup!
Good knowledge is how little you know. At least I learned that, LOL!
Fixing 3 year old heater by a pro? Time to replace it with new one,
IMO.
Heater needs air to circulate, never operate it under the blanket on
bed.
If you leave your bedroom door open during night, your room might be
warmer.
Hmmm,
And Sounds like you have poor circulation problem. I mean your blood
circulation. Not a good thing!

For younger women, a series of beef injections usually helps with
circulation.

Younger as in what age range? I have been like this all my life, but
was in hot and humid climate. Wearing cotton socks was enough.

If there really is such a thing, I would check into it. After
realizing how unproductive I have become int he morning when trying to
work in the study room ( faced away from the rising sun) after moving
into this hosue, I started wearing cashmere blend leg warmer and it
solved the problem. Came from another state (hot and humid) and
didn't realize that leg warmer would do the trick though I did get
different sweater and jackets and cashmere blend socks.


Oh, jees.

"JoeSpareBedroom", others. C'mon, find somewhere else to get your
jollies, OK?
Obviously this is someone who just needs a few questions answered. Are
there no
elders or others in your family needing a bit of extra help (in more ways
than
one)? Don't you recognize that? Is this what you do about it?

Banty


Lots of people answered her question. Then, something else happened. Have
you carefully read the progression of this discussion? ALL the messages, in
date & time order?

will allow myself to be subjected to be cheated by so
called A/C person or electrician or plumber or lawn care person or
pest control or carpet cleaning people or ...need I say more?.

I deal with it the way I see fit. If I need any suggestion, I will ask
*SPECIFICALLY* like I always do.


You mean if you WANT any suggestions, you'll ask,
You'll GET suggestions anytime someone feels like
making one. I suggest you learn to live with it.

In article , JoeSpareBedroom says...



Oh, jees.

"JoeSpareBedroom", others. C'mon, find somewhere else to get your
jollies, OK?
Obviously this is someone who just needs a few questions answered. Are
there no
elders or others in your family needing a bit of extra help (in more ways
than
one)? Don't you recognize that? Is this what you do about it?

Banty


Lots of people answered her question. Then, something else happened. Have
you carefully read the progression of this discussion? ALL the messages, in
date & time order?



I have. Just because someone is clearly, um, vulnerable, doesn't mean you
should just jump all over that person. Not without looking like an ass, anyway.

Banty

In article , "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:

Lots of people answered her question. Then, something else happened. Have
you carefully read the progression of this discussion? ALL the messages, in
date & time order?

I hadn't -- and I thought you were out of line. Now I have, and now I think
you're on the right track.

Just the same, I'm not going to volunteer to provide the needed treatments...
not even with *yours*.

--
Regards,
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)

It's time to throw all their damned tea in the harbor again.

"Doug Miller" wrote in message
. net...
In article , "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

Lots of people answered her question. Then, something else happened. Have
you carefully read the progression of this discussion? ALL the messages,
in
date & time order?

I hadn't -- and I thought you were out of line. Now I have, and now I
think
you're on the right track.

Just the same, I'm not going to volunteer to provide the needed
treatments...
not even with *yours*.


I would agree with that last statement. Not even with yours. :-)

On Feb 5, 12:29 pm, "Edwin Pawlowski" wrote:
"Amanda" wrote in message

If anyone can gudie me to a group where I can post a question on
Holmes 1 Touch portable heater, I'd appreciate it. I need to post a
question on the item I have (see pic below).

http://www.officeworld.com/Worlds-Bi...HFH2986U/07Q1/

You can ask it here. Not a bad looking heater, the same power as most space
heaters, but with a small fan and small size. If price is a concern, you
can find heaters with the same output for half that price. They may or may
not fit your needs.

Always the perfect answer, Ed.

Mrs. Clean

On Feb 5, 12:54 pm, "Amanda" wrote:
On Feb 5, 12:29 pm, "Edwin Pawlowski" wrote:

"Amanda" wrote in message

If anyone can gudie me to a group where I can post a question on
Holmes 1 Touch portable heater, I'd appreciate it. I need to post a
question on the item I have (see pic below).

http://www.officeworld.com/Worlds-Bi...HFH2986U/07Q1/

You can ask it here. Not a bad looking heater, the same power as most space
heaters, but with a small fan and small size. If price is a concern, you
can find heaters with the same output for half that price. They may or may
not fit your needs.

I got it for $25 at Walmart 3 years ago. Until recently, I didn't use
it much - I used to only to take the chill out of the bed sheet for
like a VERY short period in winter. I just sleep w/o heater, using
many layers of blankets with one being handquilted wool.

But recently, I got creative and got silly I migth add. I placed the
unit under the sheet next to me under to give an enclosed environment
cus my bedroom is really big, actully, because the room connects to
the area where there are closets and basins, preventing em to use any
heater ffectively.

(I have recently sealed that connection by putting a styrofaom at
night so that I can use oil-filled radiant heater and have the room
not cold when I get out of bed in the morning. Also, by keeping the
bedroom to the hallway closed and using oil-filled radiant heater, I
find that the central heater (via the thermostat from downstairs) can
warm the hallway area of upstairs better. This hallway is open to
downstairs since the upstairs of the house not for the whole house. I
don't know the right words to explain. )

Anyway, I was abusive of this small heater, not waiting for 10 mins
before trying to start again when it stops partly because I didn't
remember about the tiny print on the back that says to wait for 10
mins when ti stops. (I just saw it when broguth next to my PC for no
apparent reason.)

So it stopped working altogether and I wonder whether it's just the
wire blowing up. I have a family friend, like a brother, an
Electrical Engineer, who will be visiting me in a week or two. I am
thinking to ask him to take a look if it is just the wire. This unit
has some sort of sensor, right? Could that be that sensor?

I don't want to bother him if it is the sensor that got damaged
instead.

I sleep with an electric blanket on top of me and one under me.

It creates the warmth you need in a large cold bedroom. I have kept my
house at 40-50 degrees this winter to save money for my animal shelter.

On Feb 5, 9:30 pm, Tony Hwang wrote:
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Amanda" wrote in message
roups.com...

On Feb 5, 6:54 pm, "Michael B" wrote:

Optimum night temperature is 64 degrees when you're
all snugged under the covers. A setback thermostat could do
that for you automatically, and it's usually just a matter of
putting the right colored wire to the right spot.

You guys are talking as if you know w/o asking me how the air
distribtuion through the air ducts in this house works. You have NO
clue what I had to do to get air (hot or cold) where I need during the
day w/o having to do a lot more work.

Of course, you can tell me to get a professional look into fixing ...
but like I said, this is not my house and I limit what I would do and
how much I will allow myself to be subjected to be cheated by so
called A/C person or electrician or plumber or lawn care person or
pest control or carpet cleaning people or ...need I say more?.

I deal with it the way I see fit. If I need any suggestion, I will ask
*SPECIFICALLY* like I always do.

Good rule of thumb for life: Never forget how little you really know.

Yup!
Good knowledge is how little you know. At least I learned that, LOL!
Fixing 3 year old heater by a pro? Time to replace it with new one, IMO.
Heater needs air to circulate, never operate it under the blanket on
bed. If you leave your bedroom door open during night, your room might
be warmer.- Hide quoted text -

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I bought a used one at a garage sale for $5.

On Feb 5, 9:31 pm, Tony Hwang wrote:
Amanda wrote:
On Feb 5, 4:19 pm, (Doug Miller) wrote:

In article .com, "Amanda" wrote:

Hey, I was testing, okay? It's not liek I put it there and fall
asleep. I tuned it off before I sleep. And I wasn't doing it except
for a couple of nights when it was too cold. I didn't like to use
central heating because I hate getting out of bed to turn it off. if I
don't, it gets hot and wake me up in the middle of the night.

You can eliminate that problem with a setback thermostat, for twenty bucks or
so at Lowe's or Home Depot. Pays for itself within a month or so, too.

Not my house and I am moving out soon.
And you are plonked.

--
Regards,
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)

It's time to throw all their damned tea in the harbor again.

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You are correct. Go to the head of the class.

She's not well mentally for even considering placing a heater on her
BED. But, she won't be long for this world. Unfortunately, she'll burn
down someone else's house in the transition if she keeps it up. These
types of people always make someone else pay.

On Feb 5, 4:31 pm, mm wrote:
On 5 Feb 2007 12:54:50 -0800, "Amanda" wrote:



So it stopped working altogether and I wonder whether it's just the
wire blowing up. I have a family friend, like a brother, an
Electrical Engineer, who will be visiting me in a week or two. I am

One would think that any electical engineer would know how to fix such
things better than I do, or at least that all are interested in fixing
electrical things, but I'm pretty that not all do or are. So don't
give him a hard time if he begs off. I'm sure he knows electrical
engineering better than I do/

thinking to ask him to take a look if it is just the wire. This unit
has some sort of sensor, right? Could that be that sensor?

OTOH, if he will be interested, you should either have a supply of
tools available somewhere or warn him before he leaves home. I keep
having to buy voltmeters when I visit my brother, because I don't
normally keep one in my suitcase, and more than once I"ve needed one
to fix something he has. At least I could get a different model each
time, and I was saving him money. I really have enough voltmeters
now, so I hope I remember to take one in my suitcase, but the TSA will
probably think it is a bomb.

I don't want to bother him if it is the sensor that got damaged
instead.

I have doubts about sleeping with the heater. Electric heating pads
warn against sleeping with the pad because, they say, you may end up
lying on the pad, and indeed my mother did once and got a burn that
did not heal quickly.

Not the same thing as a heater of course, but I wonder how hot the air
gets and if it could set fire to the sheets and blankets.

A heating blanket is the most efficient way to stay warm when in bed.
Anything made in the last 20 or 25 years has been redesigned in case
there was anything to the fears about low frequency radiation. WRT
high-tension lines, they finally decided it was not a problem, but I
think once they redesigned electric blankets, they stopped doing
research on the old ones. ??

Heating pads have safety features to prevent burning now.

It's no wonder she was thrown out of that other discussion group. she's a
nut!

--
Steve Barker


"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
...

Lots of people answered her question. Then, something else happened. Have
you carefully read the progression of this discussion? ALL the messages,
in date & time order?

In article , Steve Barker says...

It's no wonder she was thrown out of that other discussion group. she's a
nut!

--
Steve Barker


Yes, but not your run of the mill abusive Usenet personality. Maybe y'all don't
have a lot of experience with this, but there really are clear signs of senility
and/or other problems.

If y'all can't recognize that and think this is a cat and mouse game, go ahead.
But it's not a good reflection.

Banty

On Feb 6, 8:16 am, (Doug Miller) wrote:
In article , "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
Lots of people answered her question. Then, something else happened. Have
you carefully read the progression of this discussion? ALL the messages, in
date & time order?

I hadn't -- and I thought you were out of line. Now I have, and now I think
you're on the right track.

Just the same, I'm not going to volunteer to provide the needed treatments...
not even with *yours*.

Pa-lonk to you.

--
Regards,
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)

It's time to throw all their damned tea in the harbor again.

On Feb 6, 8:21 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
"Doug Miller" wrote in message

. net...

In article , "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

Lots of people answered her question. Then, something else happened. Have
you carefully read the progression of this discussion? ALL the messages,
in
date & time order?

I hadn't -- and I thought you were out of line. Now I have, and now I
think
you're on the right track.

Just the same, I'm not going to volunteer to provide the needed
treatments...
not even with *yours*.

I would agree with that last statement. Not even with yours. :-)

It was obvious from the beginning that Doug Miller only think with his
other brain he speaks. If you want to join him, just say so.

On Feb 6, 8:51 am, "Steve Barker" wrote:
It's no wonder she was thrown out of that other discussion group. she's
a nut!

Which other discussion group were you refering to? Are you too senile
to give the name of it?


--
Steve Barker

"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message

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Lots of people answered her question. Then, something else happened. Have
you carefully read the progression of this discussion? ALL the messages,
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On Feb 6, 7:48 am, Banty wrote:
In article .com, Amanda
says...







On Feb 6, 6:03 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
"Tony Hwang" wrote in message

news:_LUxh.900709$5R2.436986@pd7urf3no...

Yup!
Good knowledge is how little you know. At least I learned that, LOL!
Fixing 3 year old heater by a pro? Time to replace it with new one, IMO.
Heater needs air to circulate, never operate it under the blanket on bed.
If you leave your bedroom door open during night, your room might be
warmer.
Hmmm,
And Sounds like you have poor circulation problem. I mean your blood
circulation. Not a good thing!

For younger women, a series of beef injections usually helps with
circulation.

Younger as in what age range? I have been like this all my life, but
was in hot and humid climate. Wearing cotton socks was enough.

If there really is such a thing, I would check into it. After
realizing how unproductive I have become int he morning when trying to
work in the study room ( faced away from the rising sun) after moving
into this hosue, I started wearing cashmere blend leg warmer and it
solved the problem. Came from another state (hot and humid) and
didn't realize that leg warmer would do the trick though I did get
different sweater and jackets and cashmere blend socks.

Oh, jees.

"JoeSpareBedroom", others. C'mon, find somewhere else to get your jollies, OK?
Obviously this is someone who just needs a few questions answered.

Exactly. He did the same thing to me in rec.food.cooking earlier on
though also gave good answers, just like here..

Are there no
elders or others in your family needing a bit of extra help (in more ways
than one)? Don't you recognize that? Is this what you do about it?

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"Amanda" wrote in message
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On Feb 6, 8:21 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
"Doug Miller" wrote in message

. net...

In article , "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

Lots of people answered her question. Then, something else happened.
Have
you carefully read the progression of this discussion? ALL the
messages,
in
date & time order?

I hadn't -- and I thought you were out of line. Now I have, and now I
think
you're on the right track.

Just the same, I'm not going to volunteer to provide the needed
treatments...
not even with *yours*.

I would agree with that last statement. Not even with yours. :-)

It was obvious from the beginning that Doug Miller only think with his
other brain he speaks. If you want to join him, just say so.


Yes, the two Dougs are amazing. We each have two brains. You, on the other
hand, have none.

On Feb 6, 8:38 am, "MRS. CLEAN" wrote:
On Feb 5, 9:31 pm, Tony Hwang wrote:





Amanda wrote:
On Feb 5, 4:19 pm, (Doug Miller) wrote:

In article .com, "Amanda" wrote:

Hey, I was testing, okay? It's not liek I put it there and fall
asleep. I tuned it off before I sleep. And I wasn't doing it except
for a couple of nights when it was too cold. I didn't like to use
central heating because I hate getting out of bed to turn it off. if I
don't, it gets hot and wake me up in the middle of the night.

You can eliminate that problem with a setback thermostat, for twenty bucks or
so at Lowe's or Home Depot. Pays for itself within a month or so, too.

Not my house and I am moving out soon.
And you are plonked.

--
Regards,
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)

It's time to throw all their damned tea in the harbor again.

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You are correct. Go to the head of the class.

She's not well mentally for even considering placing a heater on her
BED.

I mentioned about placing a tiny heater with AUTO safety shut off
feature on my bed for a couple of time in order to give the background
of its use to see what could be the damage in the heater that stopped
working INSTEAD OF getting my bed and me on fire, the next thing I
knew people with no ****ing clue who I am and how I do things
matronizing me and people with no ****ing MD degree in their tail
diagnozing me, and some so called men talking to me with their other
brain just because they see a female name. I won't mention about
retards trying to jump on the band wagon to slander me w/o giving any
****ing reference to the thread where, they claimed I said this or
that, I got kicked out, blah..blah..blah..

I guees, these people don't have a funck 'n life and need to cling on
to me for some excitement in thier boring lives. What a pity!

But, she won't be long for this world.
So?

Unfortunately, she'll burn
down someone else's house in the transition if she keeps it up. These
types of people always make someone else pay.

I assure you that my family will be quite happy to get the money from
the insurance (for the house and me).


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On Feb 6, 8:03 am, Goedjn wrote:
will allow myself to be subjected to be cheated by so
called A/C person or electrician or plumber or lawn care person or
pest control or carpet cleaning people or ...need I say more?.

I deal with it the way I see fit. If I need any suggestion, I will ask
*SPECIFICALLY* like I always do.

You mean if you WANT any suggestions, you'll ask,
You'll GET suggestions anytime someone feels like
making one. I suggest you learn to live with it.

I have no problem with useless suggestions as long as it doesn't come
with smart alec and/or condescending tone.

In article .com, "Amanda" wrote:
On Feb 6, 8:16 am, (Doug Miller) wrote:
In article , "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:
Lots of people answered her question. Then, something else happened. Have
you carefully read the progression of this discussion? ALL the messages, in
date & time order?

I hadn't -- and I thought you were out of line. Now I have, and now I think
you're on the right track.

Just the same, I'm not going to volunteer to provide the needed treatments...
not even with *yours*.

Pa-lonk to you.

You supposedly already plonked me once.

--
Regards,
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)

It's time to throw all their damned tea in the harbor again.

You should feel privileged. Double plonking. Wow!

--
Steve Barker


"Doug Miller" wrote in message
et...
In article .com,
"Amanda" wrote:
On Feb 6, 8:16 am, (Doug Miller) wrote:
In article , "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:
Lots of people answered her question. Then, something else happened.
Have
you carefully read the progression of this discussion? ALL the
messages, in
date & time order?

I hadn't -- and I thought you were out of line. Now I have, and now I
think
you're on the right track.

Just the same, I'm not going to volunteer to provide the needed
treatments...
not even with *yours*.

Pa-lonk to you.

You supposedly already plonked me once.

--
Regards,
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)

It's time to throw all their damned tea in the harbor again.

This one, the one you mentioned. and I quote:
=================
I lost it in another thread because I dislike Amart Alecs and those
who thrives on attacking others.

================
I guess i did confuse the word "thread" with "group". Same difference.
You're outta here....
--
Steve Barker


"Amanda" wrote in message
oups.com...

Which other discussion group were you refering to? Are you too senile
to give the name of it?

On 5 Feb 2007 21:11:56 -0800, "Amanda" wrote:


On really cold days, my mother would put my coat over the furnace hot
air vent in the hall -- I think the vent was in the hall -- so it
would be warm before I left for school.

She didn't warm my pajamas but I wasn't going out and the house was
still warm. There were no setback thermostats in those days, but she
set the thermostat down at night anyhow, of course. The problem was
that it *was* cold getting up in the morning, but we tolerated it
because we didnt' have much money. We were happy to have enough money
for 68 degrees when we weren't sleeping.

If I leave the central heater on at night ( the lowest setting I could
program is 45 degree) and it would get turned on. If so, it would
get too hot for me and I get woken up in the middle of the night. I
sleep well when cold. It doesn't snow where I live.

If the central heater was set for 45, it would get too hot for you?

I don't get that.

Are we talking about 45 degrees Fahrenheit? (I think 45 degrees
centigrade, is 113 F. That would be too hot for most of us.)

BTW, when I say "warm the bed" I include "taking the chill out of the
bed". I used to use my electric blanket to do that too, especially
when I was afraid of getting cancer from my old-design electric
blanket. (The older I get the less risk I have of getting cancer
before I die anyhow, and the less I have to lose.

On Feb 6, 7:47 pm, "Steve Barker" wrote:
This one, the one you mentioned. and I quote:
=================
I lost it in another thread because I dislike Amart Alecs and those
who thrives on attacking others.

================
I guess i did confuse the word "thread" with "group".

I am impressed that at least you are awrae of your senility.

Same difference.

You're outta here....

Pa-lonk to you too, moron. Not everyone is low life, ****ed up brain
like yours.




--
Steve Barker

"Amanda" wrote in message

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Which other discussion group were you refering to? Are you too senile
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In article .com, "Amanda" wrote:
On Feb 6, 7:47 pm, "Steve Barker" wrote:
This one, the one you mentioned. and I quote:
=================
I lost it in another thread because I dislike Amart Alecs and those
who thrives on attacking others.

================
I guess i did confuse the word "thread" with "group".

I am impressed that at least you are awrae of your senility.

Same difference.

You're outta here....

Pa-lonk to you too, moron. Not everyone is low life, ****ed up brain
like yours.

Pretty soon you'll have so many of us plonked that there won't be anyone left
to answer your questions.

--
Regards,
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)

It's time to throw all their damned tea in the harbor again.

"Amanda" wrote in message
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I am impressed that at least you are awrae of your senility.

Now there's the pot calling the kettle black. What a freak!