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Convert bathroom into pantry?
My wife came up with a suggestion about our home which I like. However,
I would like some input concerning value of our home. We have a 1700sq ft home with two full baths and one 1/2 bath that is literally 3 steps from our open kitchen - just across the hall. Our kitchen is fairly small and has limited space so my wife suggested we convert the half bath into a pantry. In terms of flow in the kitchen, it's perfect. My question: would this lower the value of our home? We would likely just cap all lines so that a new owner could convert the bath back if they wanted it. -- |
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... My wife came up with a suggestion about our home which I like. However, I would like some input concerning value of our home. We have a 1700sq ft home with two full baths and one 1/2 bath that is literally 3 steps from our open kitchen - just across the hall. Our kitchen is fairly small and has limited space so my wife suggested we convert the half bath into a pantry. In terms of flow in the kitchen, it's perfect. My question: would this lower the value of our home? We would likely just cap all lines so that a new owner could convert the bath back if they wanted it. If the next owner is into cooking, the pantry could be a great asset. My only caveat would be this: Do you ever use that bathroom when you have messy shoes on, maybe from yard work, and don't want to march through the rest of the house to one of the other bathrooms? |
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i think it would lower homes value, if you do it at least leave the
plumbing in place take photos of open walls etc so the next owner can put it back easily. how long are you planning on living there? if its forever do what makes you happy. if its move in 5 years do whats better for homes value you might check with a local realtor, if all the nearby homes have this bath removing it could make it hard to sell |
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i think it would lower homes value, if you do it at least leave the
plumbing in place take photos of open walls etc so the next owner can put it back easily. how long are you planning on living there? if its forever do what makes you happy. if its move in 5 years do whats better for homes value you might check with a local realtor, if all the nearby homes have this bath removing it could make it hard to sell |
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I don't believe in doing things for "the next owner" . Whose house is it
anyway? It's kind of like putting seat covers on nice velour seats in a car, who are we saving them for??? I say if a pantry is what YOU need, then by all means go for it. -- Steve Barker "TC" wrote in message ... My wife came up with a suggestion about our home which I like. However, I would like some input concerning value of our home. We have a 1700sq ft home with two full baths and one 1/2 bath that is literally 3 steps from our open kitchen - just across the hall. Our kitchen is fairly small and has limited space so my wife suggested we convert the half bath into a pantry. In terms of flow in the kitchen, it's perfect. My question: would this lower the value of our home? We would likely just cap all lines so that a new owner could convert the bath back if they wanted it. -- |
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Anyway, big pantries on the main floor are cool, and a good idea, especially
if the only other option for storing some food is in the basement, which may not be the best environment. "Steve Barker" wrote in message ... I don't believe in doing things for "the next owner" . Whose house is it anyway? It's kind of like putting seat covers on nice velour seats in a car, who are we saving them for??? I say if a pantry is what YOU need, then by all means go for it. -- Steve Barker "TC" wrote in message ... My wife came up with a suggestion about our home which I like. However, I would like some input concerning value of our home. We have a 1700sq ft home with two full baths and one 1/2 bath that is literally 3 steps from our open kitchen - just across the hall. Our kitchen is fairly small and has limited space so my wife suggested we convert the half bath into a pantry. In terms of flow in the kitchen, it's perfect. My question: would this lower the value of our home? We would likely just cap all lines so that a new owner could convert the bath back if they wanted it. -- |
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Steve Barker wrote:
I don't believe in doing things for "the next owner" . Whose house is it anyway? It's kind of like putting seat covers on nice velour seats in a car, who are we saving them for??? I say if a pantry is what YOU need, then by all means go for it. You guys are right of course, screw the resale, live in your own damn house. One suggestion, put some police tape across the bathroom door for a month and see how you like walking. |
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JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"TC" wrote in message ... My wife came up with a suggestion about our home which I like. However, I would like some input concerning value of our home. We have a 1700sq ft home with two full baths and one 1/2 bath that is literally 3 steps from our open kitchen - just across the hall. Our kitchen is fairly small and has limited space so my wife suggested we convert the half bath into a pantry. In terms of flow in the kitchen, it's perfect. My question: would this lower the value of our home? We would likely just cap all lines so that a new owner could convert the bath back if they wanted it. If the next owner is into cooking, the pantry could be a great asset. My only caveat would be this: Do you ever use that bathroom when you have messy shoes on, maybe from yard work, and don't want to march through the rest of the house to one of the other bathrooms? No. It's really in the middle of the house, so another bathroom is just as close. -- |
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... On 12 Jan 2007 13:50:49 GMT, "TC" wrote: My wife came up with a suggestion about our home which I like. However, I would like some input concerning value of our home. We have a 1700sq ft home with two full baths and one 1/2 bath that is literally 3 steps from our open kitchen - just across the hall. Our kitchen is fairly small and has limited space so my wife suggested we convert the half bath into a pantry. In terms of flow in the kitchen, it's perfect. My question: would this lower the value of our home? We would likely just cap all lines so that a new owner could convert the bath back if they wanted it. I know this is probably not important to you but this will violate NEC 210.52 if you don't have all the receptacles in there in a 20a "small appliance" circuit. Because of the presence of plumbing nearby? |
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In article , TC says...
My wife came up with a suggestion about our home which I like. However, I would like some input concerning value of our home. We have a 1700sq ft home with two full baths and one 1/2 bath that is literally 3 steps from our open kitchen - just across the hall. Our kitchen is fairly small and has limited space so my wife suggested we convert the half bath into a pantry. In terms of flow in the kitchen, it's perfect. My question: would this lower the value of our home? We would likely just cap all lines so that a new owner could convert the bath back if they wanted it. If you're planning to move soon and are also needing to count on maximizing the return on the sale of your house, I'd consult with a real estate agent - it all depends on how houses like yours are usually set up in your area, and the specifics of the bathroom placements. But, if not (and even if so - you'll still have two full baths!), I'm with the folks who say houses are for the living, and if a pantry is the way the space is the most useful to you (sounds like it), do it. Enjoy. Cheers, Banty |
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wrote in message I know this is probably not important to you but this will violate NEC 210.52 if you don't have all the receptacles in there in a 20a "small appliance" circuit. Not if it is a pantry, it is just shelves and one light. There will be no appliances or work area. |
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On 12 Jan 2007 13:50:49 GMT, "TC" wrote:
My wife came up with a suggestion about our home which I like. However, I would like some input concerning value of our home. We have a 1700sq ft home with two full baths and one 1/2 bath that is literally 3 steps from our open kitchen - just across the hall. Our kitchen is fairly small and has limited space so my wife suggested we convert the half bath into a pantry. In terms of flow in the kitchen, it's perfect. My question: would this lower the value of our home? We would likely just cap all lines so that a new owner could convert the bath back if they wanted it. One story or two? |
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On 12 Jan 2007 13:50:49 GMT, "TC" wrote:
My wife came up with a suggestion about our home which I like. However, I would like some input concerning value of our home. We have a 1700sq ft home with two full baths and one 1/2 bath that is literally 3 steps from our open kitchen - just across the hall. Our kitchen is fairly small and has limited space so my wife suggested we convert the half bath into a pantry. In terms of flow in the kitchen, it's perfect. My question: would this lower the value of our home? We would likely just cap all lines so that a new owner could convert the bath back if they wanted it. imho: New owner? Are you planing on selling soon? I've seen tv shows with realtors preaching that bedrooms (numbers) and bathrooms (numbers and quality) sell houses. You might be reducing the value of your home. Also, some local taxes are based on bedrooms and bathrooms, so you migt then be overpaying for taxes for what you have. Might want to consult with a designer/builder and keep that bathroom, and get options to increase your kitchen size. Good luck, and keep us up to date with what you do. tom @ www.Mesothelioma-Lawyers-List.com |
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"TC" writes:
My wife came up with a suggestion about our home which I like. However, I would like some input concerning value of our home. We have a 1700sq ft home with two full baths and one 1/2 bath that is literally 3 steps from our open kitchen - just across the hall. Our kitchen is fairly small and has limited space so my wife suggested we convert the half bath into a pantry. In terms of flow in the kitchen, it's perfect. My question: would this lower the value of our home? Sitting here, looking at text post across the internet, I'd lean toward "yeah, it very well may reduce the value of your home." There's no field in MLS for "pantry." However, the reality is in the details. The old wisdom is "kitchens and bathrooms sell homes" and of course, here you're at odds with each other. If you can make that pantry really cool and really memorable such that it makes the female half of the couple looking at your home next light up and say "wow that's cool and unique, and I love it! A walk in closet for the kitchen! WOW! Now that I think about it hte other places in this neighborhood don't have enough kitchen storage!" then you may sell faster or for more money than otherwise. But if you make that pantry look like a converted bathroom such that it sticks out with mixed feelings, and you're reducing your MLS bathroom count by .1 you may be undermining resale value. We would likely just cap all lines so that a new owner could convert the bath back if they wanted it. A good idea if you can do it in the wall, perhaps behind an access panel(s). The toilet drain will be the one requiring some creativity. And the ceiling vent might be something you want to hide somehow so the buyers can't look up and say "Do I want my food in a place people used to crap?" That's the nuttiness about value--perception becomes reality in a hurry, and there's no way of reliably predicting what folks will love or hate. Best Regards, -- Todd H. http://www.toddh.net/ |
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wrote: My wife came up with a suggestion about our home which I like. However, I would like some input concerning value of our home. We have a 1700sq ft home with two full baths and one 1/2 bath that is literally 3 steps from our open kitchen - just across the hall. Our kitchen is fairly small and has limited space so my wife suggested we convert the half bath into a pantry. In terms of flow in the kitchen, it's perfect. My question: would this lower the value of our home? We would likely just cap all lines so that a new owner could convert the bath back if they wanted it. Or incorporate a small utility sink into the pantry plan for cleanup or additional food prep space, or as a wet bar, since the plumbing is already there . . . . -Frank -- Here's some of my work: http://www.franksknives.com/ |
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"Frank Warner" wrote in message or as a wet bar, since the plumbing is already there . . . . That opens up new possibilities, depending on where the entertaining would be done. A nice liquor cabinet and sink may add some value. |
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Edwin Pawlowski wrote:
wrote in message I know this is probably not important to you but this will violate NEC 210.52 if you don't have all the receptacles in there in a 20a "small appliance" circuit. Not if it is a pantry, it is just shelves and one light. There will be no appliances or work area. I've seen pictures of creative storage built in between the studs. I could find a lot of wasted space...but a half bath for guests seems more valuable to me rather than just a simple pantry. I would look at other options for pantry style storage before I ripped a half bath out. |
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On 12 Jan 2007 13:50:49 GMT, "TC" wrote: My wife came up with a suggestion about our home which I like. However, I would like some input concerning value of our home. We have a 1700sq ft home with two full baths and one 1/2 bath that is literally 3 steps from our open kitchen - just across the hall. Our kitchen is fairly small and has limited space so my wife suggested we convert the half bath into a pantry. In terms of flow in the kitchen, it's perfect. My question: would this lower the value of our home? We would likely just cap all lines so that a new owner could convert the bath back if they wanted it. One story or two? One. -- |
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On 12 Jan 2007 13:50:49 GMT, "TC" wrote:
My wife came up with a suggestion about our home which I like. However, I would like some input concerning value of our home. We have a 1700sq ft home with two full baths and one 1/2 bath that is literally 3 steps from our open kitchen - just across the hall. Our kitchen is fairly small and has limited space so my wife suggested we convert the half bath into a pantry. In terms of flow in the kitchen, it's perfect. My question: would this lower the value of our home? We would likely just cap all lines so that a new owner could convert the bath back if they wanted it. Make a pantry and a happy wife. Allow yourself the ability; later, to convert back to a half bath. Disclose this in any future sale, or negotiate an allowance for a buyer to convert the space. They might even like the pantry. -- Oren I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work. Thomas A. Edison |
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In a pantry?
-- Steve Barker wrote in message ... I know this is probably not important to you but this will violate NEC 210.52 if you don't have all the receptacles in there in a 20a "small appliance" circuit. |
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"Steve Barker" wrote in message ... In a pantry? -- Steve Barker wrote in message ... I know this is probably not important to you but this will violate NEC 210.52 if you don't have all the receptacles in there in a 20a "small appliance" circuit. Yeah what he said. Why would you need ANY recepticles in a pantry? |
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I cannot recall a real estate add that listed a pantry as a feature,
even for homes that I know have pantries. Its not uncommon around here to convert a pantry into a half-bath, as many of these older homes are multi-story with no bath on the main floor. I think life styles have changed and people no longer buy the large quantities of food that they used to, so we no longer need pantries. Even modern kitchens lack what I feel is sufficient storage space, and I think that is because people want preparation or eating space, and it is so common in many places to go out to dinner, or at least order in. My son and his wife live in California and in all the visits we have made there, she has cooked a meal only once; we almost always go out. So I would give a lot of thought as to just what you would need a pantry for, before spending the money on tearing out a half-bath, and almost certainly reducing your equity in your home. On the other hand, if you call it a wine cellar, that sounds like an excellent idea. TC wrote: My wife came up with a suggestion about our home which I like. However, I would like some input concerning value of our home. We have a 1700sq ft home with two full baths and one 1/2 bath that is literally 3 steps from our open kitchen - just across the hall. Our kitchen is fairly small and has limited space so my wife suggested we convert the half bath into a pantry. In terms of flow in the kitchen, it's perfect. My question: would this lower the value of our home? We would likely just cap all lines so that a new owner could convert the bath back if they wanted it. |
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It depends very much on the age of the homes. Here (Rochester NY), there are
tons of very nice homes built between 1900 and 1950, many of which contain very nice pantries. They are frequently mentioned in real estate ads, along with pictures. Sometimes a pantry is nothing but a walk-in closet. Others are more like a room, and can be very useful when planned correctly. "Not@home" wrote in message ... I cannot recall a real estate add that listed a pantry as a feature, even for homes that I know have pantries. Its not uncommon around here to convert a pantry into a half-bath, as many of these older homes are multi-story with no bath on the main floor. I think life styles have changed and people no longer buy the large quantities of food that they used to, so we no longer need pantries. Even modern kitchens lack what I feel is sufficient storage space, and I think that is because people want preparation or eating space, and it is so common in many places to go out to dinner, or at least order in. My son and his wife live in California and in all the visits we have made there, she has cooked a meal only once; we almost always go out. So I would give a lot of thought as to just what you would need a pantry for, before spending the money on tearing out a half-bath, and almost certainly reducing your equity in your home. On the other hand, if you call it a wine cellar, that sounds like an excellent idea. TC wrote: My wife came up with a suggestion about our home which I like. However, I would like some input concerning value of our home. We have a 1700sq ft home with two full baths and one 1/2 bath that is literally 3 steps from our open kitchen - just across the hall. Our kitchen is fairly small and has limited space so my wife suggested we convert the half bath into a pantry. In terms of flow in the kitchen, it's perfect. My question: would this lower the value of our home? We would likely just cap all lines so that a new owner could convert the bath back if they wanted it. |
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Not@home wrote:
I cannot recall a real estate add that listed a pantry as a feature, even for homes that I know have pantries. Its not uncommon around here to convert a pantry into a half-bath, as many of these older homes are multi-story with no bath on the main floor. I think life styles have changed and people no longer buy the large quantities of food that they used to, so we no longer need pantries. Even modern kitchens lack what I feel is sufficient storage space, and I think that is because people want preparation or eating space, and it is so common in many places to go out to dinner, or at least order in. My son and his wife live in California and in all the visits we have made there, she has cooked a meal only once; we almost always go out. So I would give a lot of thought as to just what you would need a pantry for, before spending the money on tearing out a half-bath, and almost certainly reducing your equity in your home. On the other hand, if you call it a wine cellar, that sounds like an excellent idea. TC wrote: My wife came up with a suggestion about our home which I like. However, I would like some input concerning value of our home. We have a 1700sq ft home with two full baths and one 1/2 bath that is literally 3 steps from our open kitchen - just across the hall. Our kitchen is fairly small and has limited space so my wife suggested we convert the half bath into a pantry. In terms of flow in the kitchen, it's perfect. My question: would this lower the value of our home? We would likely just cap all lines so that a new owner could convert the bath back if they wanted it. I spoke with a real estate agent that I know. He said for me (in central FL), this would not hurt the value of my home and also said "in many cases, it's a very good selling point". Our kitchen is small with virtually no storage space. We do not buy alot of food, but with pots/pans, crockpots, pancake griddle and so on, we have very little room. I have to admit, pantries seem to be limited in central FL, but at every house that did have one, it was listed as a selling feature. -- |
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wrote in message ... On Fri, 12 Jan 2007 21:15:31 -0800, "Eigenvector" wrote: "Steve Barker" wrote in message om... In a pantry? -- Steve Barker wrote in message ... I know this is probably not important to you but this will violate NEC 210.52 if you don't have all the receptacles in there in a 20a "small appliance" circuit. Yeah what he said. Why would you need ANY recepticles in a pantry? Certainly he could blank off any non-conformimg receptacles while he is capping the pliumbing. ... or just ignore the code. Don't shoot the messenger No, not intended to start a scrap here. If I was converting a bathroom to a closet or pantry, I'd pull the wiring. I figure that capping it off would work, but it would be capped off for decades where-as the wiring could be used someone else - so might as well pull it and re-deploy somewhere else. |
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On 12 Jan 2007 13:50:49 GMT, "TC" wrote:
My wife came up with a suggestion about our home which I like. However, I would like some input concerning value of our home. We have a 1700sq ft home with two full baths and one 1/2 bath that is literally 3 steps from our open kitchen - just across the hall. Our kitchen is fairly small and has limited space so my wife suggested we convert the half bath into a pantry. In terms of flow in the kitchen, it's perfect. My question: would this lower the value of our home? We would likely just cap all lines so that a new owner could convert the bath back if they wanted it. Well, overall this would de-value the house. The number of baths, number of bedrooms, and square footage are basic in determining value. If you plan on staying there it really doesn't matter. Strange, when you add a bathroom it may increase your property tax, but when you take away a bathroom your property tax will stay the same. To find out approximately how much your house will devalue, contact a real-estate representative. |
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replying to yourname, Teresa Hall wrote:
This is a good idea! -- for full context, visit https://www.homeownershub.com/mainte...ry-184226-.htm |
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