I have a 6hp lawn mower (2 year old) that is very difficult to start in
spring and fall, even in the summer it takes 6 tries to start (and 2
times priming it). If I switch spark plugs with my old lawn mower it
works great. I checked the gap is the same. The plug looks clean,
but I sand it down just to make sure no carbon left on it. Any ideas?
Thanks

lbbss wrote:

I have a 6hp lawn mower (2 year old) that is very difficult to start in
spring and fall, even in the summer it takes 6 tries to start (and 2
times priming it). If I switch spark plugs with my old lawn mower it
works great. I checked the gap is the same. The plug looks clean,
but I sand it down just to make sure no carbon left on it. Any ideas?
Thanks

Replace it...

"lbbss" wrote in message
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I have a 6hp lawn mower (2 year old) that is very difficult to start in
spring and fall, even in the summer it takes 6 tries to start (and 2
times priming it). If I switch spark plugs with my old lawn mower it
works great. I checked the gap is the same. The plug looks clean,
but I sand it down just to make sure no carbon left on it. Any ideas?
Thanks

Continue using the plug that works better.

What happens with the new plug in the old mower?

Sounds like a bad plug... Get another?

"lbbss" wrote in message
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I have a 6hp lawn mower (2 year old) that is very difficult to start in
spring and fall, even in the summer it takes 6 tries to start (and 2
times priming it). If I switch spark plugs with my old lawn mower it
works great. I checked the gap is the same. The plug looks clean,
but I sand it down just to make sure no carbon left on it. Any ideas?
Thanks

"lbbss" wrote:

I have a 6hp lawn mower (2 year old) that is very difficult to start in
spring and fall, even in the summer it takes 6 tries to start (and 2
times priming it). If I switch spark plugs with my old lawn mower it
works great. I checked the gap is the same. The plug looks clean,
but I sand it down just to make sure no carbon left on it. Any ideas?
Thanks

Replace the mower. Most sparkplugs are now lifetime sparkplugs, and
if the sparkplug doesn't work, your mower has reached the limit of its
lifetime...

I might be frugal, but I'm not going to dick around with a $2.00
sparkplug that has no user serviceable parts inside. I'd sport for a
new one.

"lbbss" wrote in message
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I have a 6hp lawn mower (2 year old) that is very difficult to start in
spring and fall, even in the summer it takes 6 tries to start (and 2
times priming it). If I switch spark plugs with my old lawn mower it
works great. I checked the gap is the same. The plug looks clean,
but I sand it down just to make sure no carbon left on it. Any ideas?

Bad plug? Sometimes they do go. The insulator might be cracked, there
might be a bad conductor somewhere inside, who knows?

Buy a new plug, making sure you get the right one for that motor.

Pagan

"lbbss" wrote in message
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I have a 6hp lawn mower (2 year old) that is very difficult to start in
spring and fall, even in the summer it takes 6 tries to start (and 2
times priming it). If I switch spark plugs with my old lawn mower it
works great. I checked the gap is the same. The plug looks clean,
but I sand it down just to make sure no carbon left on it. Any ideas?
Thanks

Buy a BIG can of "Engine Starting Fluid"....
Nothing smells like Ether in the morning

wrote:
"lbbss" wrote:

I have a 6hp lawn mower (2 year old) that is very difficult to start in
spring and fall, even in the summer it takes 6 tries to start (and 2
times priming it). If I switch spark plugs with my old lawn mower it
works great. I checked the gap is the same. The plug looks clean,
but I sand it down just to make sure no carbon left on it. Any ideas?
Thanks

Replace the mower. Most sparkplugs are now lifetime sparkplugs, and
if the sparkplug doesn't work, your mower has reached the limit of its
lifetime...

Lawn mowers don't typically use the long life platinum or iridium plugs
that modern cars use. Why bother when there are sub $2 replacments
out there?

I might be frugal, but I'm not going to dick around with a $2.00
sparkplug that has no user serviceable parts inside. I'd sport for a
new one.

Well - the gap is user serviceable. Other than that, scraping off
the oxide layer wouldn't seem to be terribly useful. It'll just grow
back as soon as the mower is started.

is one plug a "resistor type" ?


why don't you hook up the plug without screwing it into the cylinder
but do ground it ot the engine and see how each on sparks when you
pull the rope.

Make SURE there is no gas around when you try this.


Mark

Champion h ad a run of bad spark plugs for awhile. Try NGC, or AC Delco.

--

Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
www.mormons.com


"lbbss" wrote in message
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I have a 6hp lawn mower (2 year old) that is very difficult to start in
spring and fall, even in the summer it takes 6 tries to start (and 2
times priming it). If I switch spark plugs with my old lawn mower it
works great. I checked the gap is the same. The plug looks clean,
but I sand it down just to make sure no carbon left on it. Any ideas?
Thanks

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"lbbss" wrote:

I have a 6hp lawn mower (2 year old) that is very
difficult to start in
spring and fall, even in the summer it takes 6 tries
to start (and 2
times priming it). If I switch spark plugs with my
old lawn mower it
works great. I checked the gap is the same. The
plug looks clean,
but I sand it down just to make sure no carbon left
on it. Any ideas?
Thanks

Replace the mower. Most sparkplugs are now lifetime
sparkplugs, and
if the sparkplug doesn't work, your mower has reached
the limit of its
lifetime...
=== That's not right; especially considering he has
demonstrated that a different plug works differently in
the machine. The other plug is pretyt likely even the
same plug number considering where it came from, but
the OP didn't say. First a new plug is in order.


I might be frugal, but I'm not going to dick around
with a $2.00
sparkplug that has no user serviceable parts inside.
I'd sport for a
new one.
=== I don't consider that frugal; I consider it
wasteful to buy a new mower when a spark plug is likely
all that's needed.
You sound like the cattle dealer I worked for as a
kid; he bought a brand new Cadillac every year, paid
the diff each time in cash. He did that because he
wouldn't bother with maintenance on a car in any way.
The second owner got a great deal but they also got a
car with 50,000 miles on the original showroom oil.
His handy man kept the tires inflated and hosed the mud
off periodically.

pop

=== I don't consider that frugal; I consider it
wasteful to buy a new mower when a spark plug is likely
all that's needed.
You sound like the cattle dealer I worked for as a
kid; he bought a brand new Cadillac every year, paid
the diff each time in cash. He did that because he
wouldn't bother with maintenance on a car in any way.
The second owner got a great deal but they also got a
car with 50,000 miles on the original showroom oil.
His handy man kept the tires inflated and hosed the mud
off periodically.

pop


Hey POP!!.....it was a joke....he made a funny....jeez.....

"Stormin Mormon" wrote in message
...
Champion h ad a run of bad spark plugs for awhile. Try NGC,(THATS NGK YOU
BIBLE THUMPER) or AC Delco.

--

Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus, GOD IS GOOD BUSINESS
Learn how to follow like sheep, Become a brainless idiot, donate your
entire life to a group of people.
www.lsd.org (these people are on drugs)
www.morons.com (the name says it all! wax your car with their temple
garments (or wipe your ass with them)


"lbbss" wrote in message
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I have a 6hp lawn mower (2 year old) that is very difficult to start in
spring and fall, even in the summer it takes 6 tries to start (and 2
times priming it). If I switch spark plugs with my old lawn mower it
works great. I checked the gap is the same. The plug looks clean,
but I sand it down just to make sure no carbon left on it. Any ideas?
Thanks

"Stormin Mormon" Brainless idiot and follower of sheep
wrote in message
...
Champion h ad a run of bad spark plugs for awhile. Try NGC, or AC Delco.

--

Christopher A. Young (Bible-Thumper in charge of nothing)
Learn more about Jeezsus
www.lsd.org
www.morons.com




"lbbss" wrote in message
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I have a 6hp lawn mower (2 year old) that is very difficult to start in
spring and fall, even in the summer it takes 6 tries to start (and 2
times priming it). If I switch spark plugs with my old lawn mower it
works great. I checked the gap is the same. The plug looks clean,
but I sand it down just to make sure no carbon left on it. Any ideas?
Thanks

=== I don't consider that frugal; I consider it
wasteful to buy a new mower when a spark plug is likely
all that's needed.
You sound like the cattle dealer I worked for as a
kid; he bought a brand new Cadillac every year, paid
the diff each time in cash. He did that because he
wouldn't bother with maintenance on a car in any way.
The second owner got a great deal but they also got a
car with 50,000 miles on the original showroom oil.
His handy man kept the tires inflated and hosed the mud
off periodically.

pop



Gee, that guy drove 50,000 miles per year? Yeah, uh huh.....

"Logic316" wrote in message
...
=== I don't consider that frugal; I consider it
wasteful to buy a new mower when a spark plug is
likely
all that's needed.
You sound like the cattle dealer I worked for
as a
kid; he bought a brand new Cadillac every year,
paid
the diff each time in cash. He did that because
he
wouldn't bother with maintenance on a car in any
way.
The second owner got a great deal but they also
got a
car with 50,000 miles on the original showroom
oil.
His handy man kept the tires inflated and hosed
the mud
off periodically.

pop



Gee, that guy drove 50,000 miles per year? Yeah, uh
huh.....

Not sure why you'd doubt that; it's pretty easy to do,
especially for a cattle dealer. He drove everywhere
and drove fast and hard. I only personally the
speedometer on one of his traded cars once, and it was
at 52,xxx miles. I asked to see it because the dealer
said it was the highest mileage he'd evern seen on a 14
month old (I think that was it) car. I just happened
to be buying a car at the time. Obviously, 50k has a
+/-, but his cars were srot of a legend around here.
He'd drive from here to Chicago and then down to Texas
and back without even thinking about it. This is far
upstate NY, on the St. Lawrence River.
Guess I do have to admit that the mileage is only
that of the drive wheels; they're often a different
mileage than the other two g. I swear, he must have
put ten miles on it once, just driving me the mile it
took out across a freshly combined oat field to get to
his workmen. It's amazing how smooth a caddy is in an
oat field at 60 mph when it gets less hilly, know that?
g. Oh! And you should have seen it anytime he buried
it in the mud or snow! He was an expert at rocking an
automatic transmission in the mud at what sounded like
almost full throttle!
The dealer brought HIM the cars; he never went to the
dealer's to look at them. He claimed the only thing he
insisted on was the "best tires in town" once. I was
just a kid at the time (he was an old man, now passed
away) and he's still the most interesting (weirdest and
most fun) person I ever worked for!

Sorry if you wanna be a ball buster; I thought it was
interesting. Flame away - if you wish - no skin off my
nose. Personally I enjoyed the trip down memory lane.

Pop

Pop wrote:
"Logic316" wrote in message
...
=== I don't consider that frugal; I consider it
wasteful to buy a new mower when a spark plug is
likely
all that's needed.
You sound like the cattle dealer I worked for
as a
kid; he bought a brand new Cadillac every year,
paid
the diff each time in cash. He did that because
he
wouldn't bother with maintenance on a car in any
way.
The second owner got a great deal but they also
got a
car with 50,000 miles on the original showroom
oil.
His handy man kept the tires inflated and hosed
the mud
off periodically.

pop



Gee, that guy drove 50,000 miles per year? Yeah, uh
huh.....

Not sure why you'd doubt that; it's pretty easy to do,
especially for a cattle dealer. He drove everywhere
and drove fast and hard. I only personally the
speedometer on one of his traded cars once, and it was
at 52,xxx miles. I asked to see it because the dealer
said it was the highest mileage he'd evern seen on a 14
month old (I think that was it) car. I just happened
to be buying a car at the time. Obviously, 50k has a
+/-, but his cars were srot of a legend around here.
He'd drive from here to Chicago and then down to Texas
and back without even thinking about it. This is far
upstate NY, on the St. Lawrence River.
Guess I do have to admit that the mileage is only
that of the drive wheels; they're often a different
mileage than the other two g. I swear, he must have
put ten miles on it once, just driving me the mile it
took out across a freshly combined oat field to get to
his workmen. It's amazing how smooth a caddy is in an
oat field at 60 mph when it gets less hilly, know that?
g. Oh! And you should have seen it anytime he buried
it in the mud or snow! He was an expert at rocking an
automatic transmission in the mud at what sounded like
almost full throttle!
The dealer brought HIM the cars; he never went to the
dealer's to look at them. He claimed the only thing he
insisted on was the "best tires in town" once. I was
just a kid at the time (he was an old man, now passed
away) and he's still the most interesting (weirdest and
most fun) person I ever worked for!

Sorry if you wanna be a ball buster; I thought it was
interesting. Flame away - if you wish - no skin off my
nose. Personally I enjoyed the trip down memory lane.

Pop


Me a ball buster? Neeeeever. But 50K/year sounded a tad unlikely and
I wanted to hear a bit more. Myself, I only put 3500 miles per year on
my car and any more than that seems like a lot (to me, anyway). Cool
story!

- Logic316


"Members of society must obey the law because they personally believe
that its commands are justified."
-- Judge David Bazelon - Questioning Authority: Justice and Criminal
Law

"Logic316" wrote in message
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Pop wrote:
"Logic316" wrote in
message
...
=== I don't consider that frugal; I consider it
wasteful to buy a new mower when a spark plug
is
likely
all that's needed.
You sound like the cattle dealer I worked
for
as a
kid; he bought a brand new Cadillac every year,
paid
the diff each time in cash. He did that
because
he
wouldn't bother with maintenance on a car in
any
way.
The second owner got a great deal but they also
got a
car with 50,000 miles on the original showroom
oil.
His handy man kept the tires inflated and hosed
the mud
off periodically.

pop



Gee, that guy drove 50,000 miles per year? Yeah,
uh
huh.....

Not sure why you'd doubt that; it's pretty easy to
do,
especially for a cattle dealer. He drove everywhere
and drove fast and hard. I only personally the
speedometer on one of his traded cars once, and it
was
at 52,xxx miles. I asked to see it because the
dealer
said it was the highest mileage he'd evern seen on a
14
month old (I think that was it) car. I just
happened
to be buying a car at the time. Obviously, 50k has
a
+/-, but his cars were srot of a legend around here.
He'd drive from here to Chicago and then down to
Texas
and back without even thinking about it. This is
far
upstate NY, on the St. Lawrence River.
Guess I do have to admit that the mileage is only
that of the drive wheels; they're often a different
mileage than the other two g. I swear, he must
have
put ten miles on it once, just driving me the mile
it
took out across a freshly combined oat field to get
to
his workmen. It's amazing how smooth a caddy is in
an
oat field at 60 mph when it gets less hilly, know
that?
g. Oh! And you should have seen it anytime he
buried
it in the mud or snow! He was an expert at rocking
an
automatic transmission in the mud at what sounded
like
almost full throttle!
The dealer brought HIM the cars; he never went to
the
dealer's to look at them. He claimed the only thing
he
insisted on was the "best tires in town" once. I
was
just a kid at the time (he was an old man, now
passed
away) and he's still the most interesting (weirdest
and
most fun) person I ever worked for!

Sorry if you wanna be a ball buster; I thought it
was
interesting. Flame away - if you wish - no skin off
my
nose. Personally I enjoyed the trip down memory
lane.

Pop


Me a ball buster? Neeeeever. But 50K/year sounded a
tad unlikely and
I wanted to hear a bit more. Myself, I only put 3500
miles per year on
my car and any more than that seems like a lot (to
me, anyway). Cool
story!

- Logic316


"Members of society must obey the law because they
personally believe
that its commands are justified."
-- Judge David Bazelon - Questioning Authority:
Justice and Criminal
Law


Yeah, experience counts heavily in our lives, doesn't
it? We lived in Ca when we bought our first car, a
1968 Mustang/Shelby package Grand Touring California
Special for a whopping $3,200! As you may know, you
don't walk anywhere out there; you drive. In the first
three months we put 21,000 mies on it and the dealer
just loved us! And the cost of gas in those days was
negligible of course.
Then, the 4th month I was discharged from the Navy,
and we drove another 11,000 miles in getting from San
Diego up to LA and meandered across the states to our
home in far upstate NY. AFter vacationing awhile at
"home" we moved to Chgo where we'd then drive back home
four or five times a year, abt 750 miles on 90 and 8xx
if we took the Canadian way on the 401, which was
faster, but longer. It reached a hundred grand pretty
quick and being an apartment dweller we had no place
and no money to store it, so we traded it in on a
station wagon since we were starting our family. I've
kicked myself ever since for not bringing that car home
and just "parking" it somewhere in a field or barn or
something; never even thought of doing that back then!
Now we hit a lot less than 9,000 on the two cars we
have combined!!

Ain't life strange? I want my GTCS back! Never even
laid eyes on another one in this part of the country
and only once in Chgo. Memories ...

Pop