On Wed, 18 May 2011 04:08:47 -0700, "William Sommerwerck"
wrote:

"John Fields" wrote in message
.. .

Why do you want to take a sad song and not make it better?

Phil's not so bad, he just has zero tolerance for bull**** and
responds vehemently when he sees it.

What's wrong with that?

Lots. There's no point or need to "respond vehemently". A simple statement
of the facts is enough.

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Different strokes...

Plus, there's always the plonk available.
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It doesn't help that Cliffy refuses to admit his own errors.

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IME, what he does is what many others do here, and that's to admit to
an error by not refuting the poster who catches it.

--
JF

"John Fields"

** Do you know what " meat plow " refers to ?

.... Phil

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I'd guess a penis.


** Correct.

Hard to imagine a more appropriate " handle " for a usenet troll

- ain't it ?



.... Phil

On Wed, 18 May 2011 07:50:44 -0400, JW wrote:

On Wed, 18 May 2011 06:36:19 -0400 Spehro Pefhany
wrote in Message id:
:

On Wed, 18 May 2011 20:30:08 +1000, the renowned "Phil Allison"
wrote:


"John Fields"


** Do you know what " meat plow " refers to ?

Something that furrow one's brow?

A reference to the Stone Temple Pilots. I think.

---
"Shirley Temple's Pussy", actually.

--
JF

On Tue, 17 May 2011 19:27:27 -0500, John Fields wrote:

On Tue, 17 May 2011 23:07:00 +0000 (UTC), Meat Plow
wrote:

On Mon, 16 May 2011 03:13:29 -0400, Michael A. Terrell wrote:

Phil Allison wrote:

"Meat Plow"

** This ****WIT troll needs to be kicked off usenet.

Who will help ?


No one will lift a finger to help you, Phyllis.

I will. Phil, just forward my posts to with complete
headers. That's really all you can do unless you plan a trip to Ohio to
blow my brains out. Here's some friendly advise, buy a one way ticket.

---
Why do you want to take a sad song and not make it better?

Phil's not so bad, he just has zero tolerance for bull**** and responds
vehemently when he sees it.

What's wrong with that?

Allison sets traps so he can come back and tell people they need killed,
are ****wits, etc...

That's what's wrong.



--
Live Fast Die Young, Leave A Pretty Corpse

On Wed, 18 May 2011 06:53:17 -0500, John Fields wrote:

On Wed, 18 May 2011 20:30:08 +1000, "Phil Allison"
wrote:


"John Fields"


** Do you know what " meat plow " refers to ?




.... Phil

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I'd guess a penis.

Then you and Phil would be totally and laughably wrong.

http://youtu.be/ly1TYahH9wg

It's the name of a song by the group STP who I'm very fond of.

Lyrics:

fine place for a day full of breakdowns
takes more than a meltdown to show us how
throw a tack on the road, stop the meatplow
got a bullet but it ain't mine.


they got these pictures of everything
to break us down, yeah to break me down.
they make us hate and we make it bleed.


but I got a lover and yeah
she shows me how,
to understand it, yeah to understand
I got a brother and well
he show me how,
to make amends, yeah to make amends
with it
take a break from the mousetrap we call home
takes more than a message to make me smile
I can feel when she kisses me sleeping
but not when the news is on

Now back to the topic. I want to help Phil kick me
off Usenet forever. If he will just forward the
objectionable posts to
with complete headers that should do the trick
if anything in the posts violate Altopia's
terms of service or acceptable use policy.

Other than that Phil Allison the sheep-shagger should
keep his ****ing mouth shut and go cry his river of tears
elsewhere.



--
Live Fast Die Young, Leave A Pretty Corpse

On Wed, 18 May 2011 07:50:44 -0400, JW wrote:

On Wed, 18 May 2011 06:36:19 -0400 Spehro Pefhany
wrote in Message id:
:

On Wed, 18 May 2011 20:30:08 +1000, the renowned "Phil Allison"
wrote:


"John Fields"


** Do you know what " meat plow " refers to ?

Something that furrow one's brow?

A reference to the Stone Temple Pilots. I think.

CHA! CHING! A song off the Purple Album, Meatplow.

Claim your prize at the door. It's a picture of Phil Allison
stapled to a dart board.


--
Live Fast Die Young, Leave A Pretty Corpse

On Wed, 18 May 2011 08:57:16 -0500, John Fields wrote:

On Wed, 18 May 2011 07:50:44 -0400, JW wrote:

On Wed, 18 May 2011 06:36:19 -0400 Spehro Pefhany
wrote in Message id:
:

On Wed, 18 May 2011 20:30:08 +1000, the renowned "Phil Allison"
wrote:


"John Fields"


** Do you know what " meat plow " refers to ?

Something that furrow one's brow?

A reference to the Stone Temple Pilots. I think.

---
"Shirley Temple's Pussy", actually.

Never heard that one. An urban legend meatplow is a fat chic who wears
too small clothing. There is also an Ethyl Meatplow group.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethyl_Meatplow

Around here I've never heard it used to describe a sex organ. But on
Usenet if that's the only weapon you have, it's used fairly often.
Being a veteran of Usenet flames and now having skin thickly coated with
Teflon, there is nothing left to say to me that could cause me
embarrassment. I have no shame here in Usenet. And you all go away
when I close my news reader application.



--
Live Fast Die Young, Leave A Pretty Corpse

On Wed, 18 May 2011 22:00:19 +0000 (UTC), Meat Plow
wrote:

On Tue, 17 May 2011 19:27:27 -0500, John Fields wrote:

On Tue, 17 May 2011 23:07:00 +0000 (UTC), Meat Plow
wrote:

On Mon, 16 May 2011 03:13:29 -0400, Michael A. Terrell wrote:

Phil Allison wrote:

"Meat Plow"

** This ****WIT troll needs to be kicked off usenet.

Who will help ?


No one will lift a finger to help you, Phyllis.

I will. Phil, just forward my posts to with complete
headers. That's really all you can do unless you plan a trip to Ohio to
blow my brains out. Here's some friendly advise, buy a one way ticket.

---
Why do you want to take a sad song and not make it better?

Phil's not so bad, he just has zero tolerance for bull**** and responds
vehemently when he sees it.

What's wrong with that?

Allison sets traps so he can come back and tell people they need killed,
are ****wits, etc...

That's what's wrong.

---
I don't see that, I just see someone who gets easily ****ed when
misinformation is proffered as truth by the ignorati.

I've had more than a few run-ins with Phil, some when I was wrong and
some when I wasn't.

When I wasn't, I just offered my data or maybe a Haiku illustrating
the situation, and the confrontation was defused.

When I was, I simply admitted it and the confrontation was then also
defused.

No big deal; we all make misteaks.

--
JF

John Fields wrote:

On Wed, 18 May 2011 22:00:19 +0000 (UTC), Meat Plow
wrote:

On Tue, 17 May 2011 19:27:27 -0500, John Fields wrote:

On Tue, 17 May 2011 23:07:00 +0000 (UTC), Meat Plow
wrote:

On Mon, 16 May 2011 03:13:29 -0400, Michael A. Terrell wrote:

Phil Allison wrote:

"Meat Plow"

** This ****WIT troll needs to be kicked off usenet.

Who will help ?


No one will lift a finger to help you, Phyllis.

I will. Phil, just forward my posts to with complete
headers. That's really all you can do unless you plan a trip to Ohio to
blow my brains out. Here's some friendly advise, buy a one way ticket.

---
Why do you want to take a sad song and not make it better?

Phil's not so bad, he just has zero tolerance for bull**** and responds
vehemently when he sees it.

What's wrong with that?

Allison sets traps so he can come back and tell people they need killed,
are ****wits, etc...

That's what's wrong.

---
I don't see that, I just see someone who gets easily ****ed when
misinformation is proffered as truth by the ignorati.


You don't use news:sci.electronics repair.


--
It's easy to think outside the box, when you have a cutting torch.

In article ,
"William Sommerwerck" wrote:

The point is entirely about * cone excursion* above resonance as a
function
of drive frequency for fixed AC drive voltage. Obviously a cone does not
follow the actual drive voltage wave - or the excursion and all
frequencies
would be the same.

Once you work out the simple relationship is between drive frequency and
cone excursion when the cone's mass dominates the game - you have it.

How dare you answer a criticism courteously -- what's the world coming to?

I'll check my books on acoustics about this.

Check your physics book, too, recalling (as Phil said), that a speaker
is a mechanical system operating *above resonance*.

You can simulate this by hanging a fairly heavy weight from a rubber
band. Hold the other end of the band (with the weight hanging down,
stretching the rubber but *not too much*). Move your hand up and down.
Below resonance, the weight follows your hand, with constant
displacement, no matter the frequency. Above resonance, your hand goes
down while the weight is coming up, and the faster you move your hand,
the smaller the weight's excursion gets. That's the domain a speaker
works in.

It is this reduction in excursion as frequency increases that makes a
speaker *automatically* have a constant volume velocity (constant output
level) regardless of frequency. The cone excursion drops by a factor of
four for every octave increase in frequency.

But insofar as speaker phasing is concerned, as long as they are both
the same, it doesn't matter much, because in general, you have no idea
what happened to the signals before they got stuck on that CD (or
whatever).

Isaac

"isw"

Some ****** wrote:

I'll check my books on acoustics about this.

Check your physics book, too, recalling (as Phil said), that a speaker
is a mechanical system operating *above resonance*.

You can simulate this by hanging a fairly heavy weight from a rubber
band. Hold the other end of the band (with the weight hanging down,
stretching the rubber but *not too much*). Move your hand up and down.
Below resonance, the weight follows your hand, with constant
displacement, no matter the frequency. Above resonance, your hand goes
down while the weight is coming up, and the faster you move your hand,
the smaller the weight's excursion gets. That's the domain a speaker
works in.

It is this reduction in excursion as frequency increases that makes a
speaker *automatically* have a constant volume velocity (constant output
level) regardless of frequency. The cone excursion drops by a factor of
four for every octave increase in frequency.


** Give this man a Kewpie doll ......


But insofar as speaker phasing is concerned, as long as they are both
the same, it doesn't matter much, because in general, you have no idea
what happened to the signals before they got stuck on that CD (or
whatever).

** Some hi-fi whackos like to pretend it is possible to get "absolute
phase" from their systems - but few even know the above fact.

BTW:

The situation is different for most headphones and electrostatic speakers -
where diaphragm movement is resistance dominated rather than mass dominated.

Plus different again for a condenser microphone where diaphragm excursion
does not vary with frequency and the output voltage wave is a direct replica
of its displacement from zero.


..... Phil

On Wed, 18 May 2011 18:49:25 -0500, John Fields wrote:

n Wed, 18 May 2011 22:00:19 +0000 (UTC), Meat Plow
wrote:

On Tue, 17 May 2011 19:27:27 -0500, John Fields wrote:

On Tue, 17 May 2011 23:07:00 +0000 (UTC), Meat Plow
wrote:

On Mon, 16 May 2011 03:13:29 -0400, Michael A. Terrell wrote:

Phil Allison wrote:

"Meat Plow"

** This ****WIT troll needs to be kicked off usenet.

Who will help ?


No one will lift a finger to help you, Phyllis.

I will. Phil, just forward my posts to with
complete headers. That's really all you can do unless you plan a trip
to Ohio to blow my brains out. Here's some friendly advise, buy a one
way ticket.

---
Why do you want to take a sad song and not make it better?

Phil's not so bad, he just has zero tolerance for bull**** and
responds vehemently when he sees it.

What's wrong with that?

Allison sets traps so he can come back and tell people they need killed,
are ****wits, etc...

That's what's wrong.

---
I don't see that, I just see someone who gets easily ****ed when
misinformation is proffered as truth by the ignorati.

You don't read SER enough. Phil is famous for setting traps just to come
back and belittle people with his petty filth. Either correct the error
peacefully or shut the **** up. There is no need for his kind of
vindictiveness when you can be civil and correct any misinformation.
His interactive model in real life would be an instant failure.


--
Live Fast Die Young, Leave A Pretty Corpse

On Tue, 17 May 2011 19:27:27 -0500, John Fields
wrote:

On Tue, 17 May 2011 23:07:00 +0000 (UTC), Meat Plow
wrote:

On Mon, 16 May 2011 03:13:29 -0400, Michael A. Terrell wrote:

Phil Allison wrote:

"Meat Plow"

** This ****WIT troll needs to be kicked off usenet.

Who will help ?


No one will lift a finger to help you, Phyllis.

I will. Phil, just forward my posts to
with complete headers. That's really all you can do unless
you plan a trip to Ohio to blow my brains out. Here's some
friendly advise, buy a one way ticket.

---
Why do you want to take a sad song and not make it better?

Phil's not so bad, he just has zero tolerance for bull**** and
responds vehemently when he sees it.

What's wrong with that?

There is a serious problem with excessive false positives in Phil's
bull**** detector.

"josephkk"

There is a serious problem with excessive false positives in Phil's
bull**** detector.


** ROTFLMAO !!

No congenital ****wit like YOU ever admits he is wrong or bull****ting.



..... Phil