A buddy of mine asked if I'd shop a new Dell system for him. I was
surprised to see Dell still shipping CRTs with nearly all of their low-end
systems. Anyone know who's still making CRTs?

Bucky Fush wrote:
A buddy of mine asked if I'd shop a new Dell system for him. I was
surprised to see Dell still shipping CRTs with nearly all of their low-end
systems. Anyone know who's still making CRTs?

WHO CARES WHO'S MAKING CRTS GET A LIFE REJECT

Bucky Fush wrote:
A buddy of mine asked if I'd shop a new Dell system for him. I was
surprised to see Dell still shipping CRTs with nearly all of their low-end
systems. Anyone know who's still making CRTs?




There's still several overseas companies making them, the monitors
aren't actually made by Dell, they just slap their name on them.

They are using up old inventories. On a small scale, there are still
monitors being assembled using CRT's. When they run out of CRT's, there will
be no more. In many countries new CRT consumer product manufacturing will no
longer be legal or no longer legal to sell, due to the pollution problems
caused when disposed back to the environment.

There may still be some CRT's made in the Orient for limited markets where
they are allowed to be sold. There will still be specialized CRT's made for
instrumentation where they are still used, until alternative technology is
found.

--

JANA
_____


"Bucky Fush" wrote in message
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A buddy of mine asked if I'd shop a new Dell system for him. I was
surprised to see Dell still shipping CRTs with nearly all of their low-end
systems. Anyone know who's still making CRTs?

Thanks for the info, although I was hoping to get specific manufacturer
info. I'm a pro photographer and often do color correction on digital
images, and I still haven't found an affordable LCD monitor that can
match my CRT's color gamut. I use one for color correction, and
have two others in reserve, just so I can outlast this LCD nonsense
long enough for LED technology to hit the streets.

"JANA" wrote in message ...
They are using up old inventories. On a small scale, there are still
monitors being assembled using CRT's. When they run out of CRT's, there will
be no more. In many countries new CRT consumer product manufacturing will no
longer be legal or no longer legal to sell, due to the pollution problems
caused when disposed back to the environment.

There may still be some CRT's made in the Orient for limited markets where
they are allowed to be sold. There will still be specialized CRT's made for
instrumentation where they are still used, until alternative technology is
found.

--

JANA
_____


"Bucky Fush" wrote in message
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A buddy of mine asked if I'd shop a new Dell system for him. I was
surprised to see Dell still shipping CRTs with nearly all of their low-end
systems. Anyone know who's still making CRTs?

"Buck Fusche" wrote in message
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Thanks for the info, although I was hoping to get specific manufacturer
info. I'm a pro photographer and often do color correction on digital
images, and I still haven't found an affordable LCD monitor that can
match my CRT's color gamut. I use one for color correction, and
have two others in reserve, just so I can outlast this LCD nonsense
long enough for LED technology to hit the streets.


IMHO, LCD will never produce a pix superior (or even equal) to a good CRT
unit, simply due to the nature of LCD technology.
I have an NEC FP2141SB and wouldn't trade it for the most expensive of LCD
screens, despite its mass and heat generation.

We will be SOL when parts for our CRT's are NLA.
I believe there will be a limited availability of new CRT's for pro
applications for some time to come, though. Actually getting your hands on
one might prove difficult, however.

OLED holds promise as a low-cost replacement for LCD, but what few seem to
care about is that SOME of us still change graphic modes on our monitors!
Use any LCD in a resolution other than native and it looks pretty crummy. I
suspect the same will be true of OLED and any other pixel-addressed
technology.

"Buck Fusche" wrote in message
ink.net...
Thanks for the info, although I was hoping to get specific manufacturer
info. I'm a pro photographer and often do color correction on digital
images, and I still haven't found an affordable LCD monitor that can
match my CRT's color gamut. I use one for color correction, and
have two others in reserve, just so I can outlast this LCD nonsense

Well, some of us are not pro photographers or into desk top publishing etc
:-) and for us, LCD monitors are great. Negligible radiation, little heat,
low power consumption, sharp, consistant image, small desktop footprint etc
etc. If it is 'nonsense' then how can the huge uptake of the technology be
explained? Condemning a technology on its lack of suitability for a niche
market is 'nonsense' IMO.

long enough for LED technology to hit the streets.


What makes you think LED technology won't have drawbacks of its own? I can't
see it being much better for your purposes than LCD TBH. I stand to be
corrected of course :-)

Dave

.......... coming soon. SED ... Surface Electron-Emitter Diode, as I recall:
http://www.canon.com/technology/display/
One magazine article stated that this technology will be available in the
US in 2 or 3 years.
Dave




"Bucky Fush" wrote in message
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A buddy of mine asked if I'd shop a new Dell system for him. I was
surprised to see Dell still shipping CRTs with nearly all of their low-end
systems. Anyone know who's still making CRTs?

"Dave D" wrote in message ...

"Buck Fusche" wrote in message
ink.net...
Thanks for the info, although I was hoping to get specific manufacturer
info. I'm a pro photographer and often do color correction on digital
images, and I still haven't found an affordable LCD monitor that can
match my CRT's color gamut. I use one for color correction, and
have two others in reserve, just so I can outlast this LCD nonsense

Well, some of us are not pro photographers or into desk top publishing etc
:-) and for us, LCD monitors are great. Negligible radiation, little heat,
low power consumption, sharp, consistant image, small desktop footprint etc
etc. If it is 'nonsense' then how can the huge uptake of the technology be
explained? Condemning a technology on its lack of suitability for a niche
market is 'nonsense' IMO.

It's not the technology I'm condemning, and I agree that for many,
even most people LCDs are superior. But as long as CRTs offer
the advantages they do (flexible resolution, better gamut etc)
monitor manufacturers should give us a choice. The exact same
people who needed and bought 21 and 22" CRTs 5 and 10
years ago STILL NEED THEM for the SAME REASONS.

In article . net,
Buck Fusche wrote:
It's not the technology I'm condemning, and I agree that for many,
even most people LCDs are superior. But as long as CRTs offer
the advantages they do (flexible resolution, better gamut etc)
monitor manufacturers should give us a choice. The exact same
people who needed and bought 21 and 22" CRTs 5 and 10
years ago STILL NEED THEM for the SAME REASONS.

Too true. I work in pro broadcasting (but as a sound engineer) and the
same applies to monitors for camera settings. Still CRT - much as LCD
could be useful for location stuff due to smaller weight and power
consumption. Plasmas burn - so no use where time code etc is displayed.

--
*Whatever kind of look you were going for, you missed.

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

"JANA" wrote in message
...
They are using up old inventories. On a small scale, there are still
monitors being assembled using CRT's. When they run out of CRT's, there
will
be no more. In many countries new CRT consumer product manufacturing will
no
longer be legal or no longer legal to sell, due to the pollution problems
caused when disposed back to the environment.

There may still be some CRT's made in the Orient for limited markets where
they are allowed to be sold. There will still be specialized CRT's made
for
instrumentation where they are still used, until alternative technology is
found.

--
JANA
_____

Presumably, you're referring to the RoHS directive, and the lead in the
glass faceplate of a CRT ? This is an exempted technology, so whilst CRTs
may be dying out for various reasons, illegality of production and sale in
countries signed up to the directive, will not be one of them.

http://www.pb-free.info/survey/8_popup.htm

Arfa

Buck Fusche wrote:
Thanks for the info, although I was hoping to get specific manufacturer
info. I'm a pro photographer and often do color correction on digital
images, and I still haven't found an affordable LCD monitor that can
match my CRT's color gamut. I use one for color correction, and
have two others in reserve, just so I can outlast this LCD nonsense
long enough for LED technology to hit the streets.



If it's that critical, then look at name brands like Sony or NEC,
whether or not they still actually make CRTs, they do still sell them.

"James Sweet" wrote in message newsMPLf.137$pE4.79@trnddc04...
Buck Fusche wrote:
Thanks for the info, although I was hoping to get specific manufacturer
info. I'm a pro photographer and often do color correction on digital
images, and I still haven't found an affordable LCD monitor that can
match my CRT's color gamut. I use one for color correction, and
have two others in reserve, just so I can outlast this LCD nonsense
long enough for LED technology to hit the streets.

If it's that critical, then look at name brands like Sony or NEC,
whether or not they still actually make CRTs, they do still sell them.

Such as where? Especially NEC, I've been trying to find a
source for months.

"Buck Fusche" wrote in message
ink.net...
"James Sweet" wrote in message
newsMPLf.137$pE4.79@trnddc04...
Buck Fusche wrote:
Thanks for the info, although I was hoping to get specific manufacturer
info. I'm a pro photographer and often do color correction on digital
images, and I still haven't found an affordable LCD monitor that can
match my CRT's color gamut. I use one for color correction, and
have two others in reserve, just so I can outlast this LCD nonsense
long enough for LED technology to hit the streets.

If it's that critical, then look at name brands like Sony or NEC,
whether or not they still actually make CRTs, they do still sell them.

Such as where? Especially NEC, I've been trying to find a
source for months.



http://www.batesdirect.com/ProductDe...40565/ProInfo/

My NEC FP2141SB-BK has the same specs, but is minus the the color calibrator
and hood. Been enjoying mine for over 2 years; pix still as good as the day
it arrived. Prior to purchase, I compared mine side-by-side with the Sony
high-ends and there was no contest. Of course, YMMV. I did have to touch
up the convergence controls inside the unit to bring corner convergence to
near perfection, but that was a minor inconvenience. I couldn't find anyone
with leftover stock of my model. Better grab the one from Bates quick, if
you're looking for one of these monsters, they're going fast!

"Ray L. Volts" wrote in message news:5cVLf.738$FE2.368@trnddc01...

http://www.batesdirect.com/ProductDe...40565/ProInfo/

My NEC FP2141SB-BK has the same specs, but is minus the the color calibrator
and hood. Been enjoying mine for over 2 years; pix still as good as the day
it arrived. Prior to purchase, I compared mine side-by-side with the Sony
high-ends and there was no contest. Of course, YMMV. I did have to touch
up the convergence controls inside the unit to bring corner convergence to
near perfection, but that was a minor inconvenience. I couldn't find anyone
with leftover stock of my model. Better grab the one from Bates quick, if
you're looking for one of these monsters, they're going fast!

Thanks for the link, Ray. Much appreciated!

At about the time of 2/24/2006 10:10 AM, Buck Fusche stated the following:
"Dave D" wrote in message ...
"Buck Fusche" wrote in message
ink.net...
Thanks for the info, although I was hoping to get specific manufacturer
info. I'm a pro photographer and often do color correction on digital
images, and I still haven't found an affordable LCD monitor that can
match my CRT's color gamut. I use one for color correction, and
have two others in reserve, just so I can outlast this LCD nonsense
Well, some of us are not pro photographers or into desk top publishing etc
:-) and for us, LCD monitors are great. Negligible radiation, little heat,
low power consumption, sharp, consistant image, small desktop footprint etc
etc. If it is 'nonsense' then how can the huge uptake of the technology be
explained? Condemning a technology on its lack of suitability for a niche
market is 'nonsense' IMO.

It's not the technology I'm condemning, and I agree that for many,
even most people LCDs are superior. But as long as CRTs offer
the advantages they do (flexible resolution, better gamut etc)
monitor manufacturers should give us a choice. The exact same
people who needed and bought 21 and 22" CRTs 5 and 10
years ago STILL NEED THEM for the SAME REASONS.



Agreed. I will not buy a LCD monitor for my computer system. As a
gamer, I prefer the CRT because you can't really play games on a LCD
monitor with any real level of quality. TI's DLP technology on the
other hand looks very good. Plasma screens look as good as a CRT too,
but I don't think that you can change the resolution on those either.

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"Buck Fusche" wrote in message
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"Ray L. Volts" wrote in message
news:5cVLf.738$FE2.368@trnddc01...

http://www.batesdirect.com/ProductDe...40565/ProInfo/

My NEC FP2141SB-BK has the same specs, but is minus the the color
calibrator
and hood. Been enjoying mine for over 2 years; pix still as good as the
day
it arrived. Prior to purchase, I compared mine side-by-side with the
Sony
high-ends and there was no contest. Of course, YMMV. I did have to
touch
up the convergence controls inside the unit to bring corner convergence
to
near perfection, but that was a minor inconvenience. I couldn't find
anyone
with leftover stock of my model. Better grab the one from Bates quick,
if
you're looking for one of these monsters, they're going fast!

Thanks for the link, Ray. Much appreciated!



Apparently, Bates had even fewer than I suspected. I see 12 hours later
they now list it as NLA. Did you buy the last one? =)

I noticed NEC doesn't even list these models on their own website anymore.
They do still mention this one:
http://www.necdisplay.com/products/P...assification=1

but last time I checked, lowest price for it was over $4500. Ouch!

Anyway, if you didn't get the 2070 from Bates, best of luck finding other
sources. If you do, please pass that info along to the rest of us CRT fans.