I am setting up my woodworking shop and need advice on the tools I
will place in the shop, specifically I need advice as to what kind of
router and table to buy and would like any input on tablesaws.. I
would like my table saw to be able to do daddo and preferably be able
to rip 4x8 sheets of wood down.. also any other input on additonal
tools would be greatly appreciated.. I already have a bandsaw,
scrollsaw, drillpress and dual laser compound miter saw,, all made by
Delta... Thanks to all who will provide input...

David

"ScRaPLeR" wrote in message
...


I am setting up my woodworking shop and need advice on the tools I
will place in the shop, specifically I need advice as to what kind of
router and table to buy and would like any input on tablesaws.. I
would like my table saw to be able to do daddo and preferably be able
to rip 4x8 sheets of wood down.. also any other input on additonal
tools would be greatly appreciated.. I already have a bandsaw,
scrollsaw, drillpress and dual laser compound miter saw,, all made by
Delta... Thanks to all who will provide input...

David

How much money do you have and how big is your shop?

I'd buy a General 350 or a Delta Unisaw with the 52" fence and make an
outfeed table that is about 8 feet long in back of it. Be sure to get good
blades. I have a Ridge Carbide 40T blade and their dado set.

Then I'd buy a Benchdog router table ( www.routerbits.com) lift, and a 3 HP
router to go with it.

Be sure to get a canister style dust collector also.

OK, how's the wallet holding up?

I think ripping 4x8 sheets down on the table saw is bit dangerous. Any
mistakes while you feed will through off the cut a 1/4" either way. I
prefer to rough cut the piece with a jig saw and a very aggressive
blade, then cut the more manageable pieces on the table saw.

I have a 52" Vega fence, but there is always a whole lot tolls on the
other side of that fence that would have to move first!

Alan

I'm happy with my Grizzly 1023 saw. You can get it with an extension
table to rip the wider stuff. Happy with the fence on it too. Also
available in right or left tilt according to your preference.

Kevin

On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 22:50:00 GMT, ScRaPLeR
wrote:



I am setting up my woodworking shop and need advice on the tools I
will place in the shop, specifically I need advice as to what kind of
router and table to buy and would like any input on tablesaws.. I
would like my table saw to be able to do daddo and preferably be able
to rip 4x8 sheets of wood down.. also any other input on additonal
tools would be greatly appreciated.. I already have a bandsaw,
scrollsaw, drillpress and dual laser compound miter saw,, all made by
Delta... Thanks to all who will provide input...

David

"Edwin Pawlowski" wrote in
om:


"ScRaPLeR" wrote in message
...


I am setting up my woodworking shop and need advice on the tools I
will place in the shop, specifically I need advice as to what kind of
router and table to buy and would like any input on tablesaws.. I
would like my table saw to be able to do daddo and preferably be able
to rip 4x8 sheets of wood down.. also any other input on additonal
tools would be greatly appreciated.. I already have a bandsaw,
scrollsaw, drillpress and dual laser compound miter saw,, all made by
Delta... Thanks to all who will provide input...

David

How much money do you have and how big is your shop?

I'd buy a General 350 or a Delta Unisaw with the 52" fence and make an
outfeed table that is about 8 feet long in back of it. Be sure to get
good blades. I have a Ridge Carbide 40T blade and their dado set.

Then I'd buy a Benchdog router table ( www.routerbits.com) lift, and a
3 HP router to go with it.

Be sure to get a canister style dust collector also.

OK, how's the wallet holding up?



Jeez, Ed! You melted his VISA card!

Patriarch

A good circular saw with a long straightedge is also good for breaking down
4X8 sheets of plywood. I do this all the time. A lot more manageable than
doing it on a table saw, particularly in a small shop. Get a good blade and
you are in business.

Philly
"ScRaPLeR" wrote in message
...


I am setting up my woodworking shop and need advice on the tools I
will place in the shop, specifically I need advice as to what kind of
router and table to buy and would like any input on tablesaws.. I
would like my table saw to be able to do daddo and preferably be able
to rip 4x8 sheets of wood down.. also any other input on additonal
tools would be greatly appreciated.. I already have a bandsaw,
scrollsaw, drillpress and dual laser compound miter saw,, all made by
Delta... Thanks to all who will provide input...

David

I'm very pleased with my Grizzly 1023 table saw. I've had it for about seven years now and cut thousands of feet of material on it. I did replace the stock fence with a 52" Biesemeyer fence. My saw is on a mobile base; when cutting sheet goods I bring out my fully adjustable matrimonial outfeed assistant...did I mention that I married a very patient woman?

On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 23:08:40 GMT, "Edwin Pawlowski"
wrote:


"ScRaPLeR" wrote in message
.. .


I am setting up my woodworking shop and need advice on the tools I
will place in the shop, specifically I need advice as to what kind of
router and table to buy and would like any input on tablesaws.. I
would like my table saw to be able to do daddo and preferably be able
to rip 4x8 sheets of wood down.. also any other input on additonal
tools would be greatly appreciated.. I already have a bandsaw,
scrollsaw, drillpress and dual laser compound miter saw,, all made by
Delta... Thanks to all who will provide input...

David

How much money do you have and how big is your shop?

I'd buy a General 350 or a Delta Unisaw with the 52" fence and make an
outfeed table that is about 8 feet long in back of it. Be sure to get good
blades. I have a Ridge Carbide 40T blade and their dado set.

Then I'd buy a Benchdog router table ( www.routerbits.com) lift, and a 3 HP
router to go with it.

Be sure to get a canister style dust collector also.

OK, how's the wallet holding up?



I have a little over $7000.00 to spend on my shop... Thanks for all
the imput

On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 22:50:00 GMT, ScRaPLeR
wrote:



I am setting up my woodworking shop and need advice on the tools I
will place in the shop, specifically I need advice as to what kind of
router and table to buy and would like any input on tablesaws.. I
would like my table saw to be able to do daddo and preferably be able
to rip 4x8 sheets of wood down.. also any other input on additonal
tools would be greatly appreciated.. I already have a bandsaw,
scrollsaw, drillpress and dual laser compound miter saw,, all made by
Delta... Thanks to all who will provide input...

David


Thanks to all who have provided input.... You are all very helpful and
thoughful... I Am progressing with the woodworking shop all but very
confussidly.... Ha! HA!

ScRaPLeR wrote in
:

snip

I have a little over $7000.00 to spend on my shop... Thanks for all
the imput

Go slowly. It need not be spent all in one week.

Take a class or three. Find a woodworkers' club if you can. Make a few
projects with the tools you already have, even if you then use them for
firewood. It's just for practice.

Start looking for used tools in the newspaper, or on eBay, or Craigslist.
Not to buy, but to see what's available. If it's interesting, ask the
seller what it was used for, and why they are selling. You can learn a lot
that way. Some old tools are gems. Others are junk.

Realize that $7000 buys a lot of furniture, and that what you are buying is
tools to help make your hobby more enjoyable, safer, and you somewhat more
capable. Leave enough in your budget for materials. And books. And
classes.

Lotsa folks have spent much more than your budget. But there are many here
who are really proud of the fact that they have all the fun they can
handle, having spent probably less than $1000.

Patriarch

On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 22:50:00 GMT, ScRaPLeR
wrote:



David


Have another question for you premo folks,, I am getting ready to
buy a router and table,,,, any recommendations on this or should I buy
a shaper instead...... and or should I buy fixed base or plunge
router..

also I have seen a lot of discussion on building your own router
table,,,, is this a better way than to buy one,, are the ones on the
market not good enough or what???


Thanks in advance to all who take the time to reply


David

A popular and relatively inexpensive router for a table is a Hitachi
M12V. I believe it's rated at 3 1/4 hp and is a variable speed, soft
start router. I have one in my homemade table and it's worked great. My
table is two pieces of 3/4" MDF glued together and sealed with
water-based poly, about three coats, and then waxed. I banded the edges
with some maple. The router hangs from a piece of 1/4" thick plexiglass
that sits in a rabbet in the top. IIRC the top is about 24" x 36" or
thereabouts. The top sits on an old cabinet on which I mounted wheels (
had to cut a hole through the top for the router). I buy 1/2" bits for
my table and 1/4" bits for an old Skil plunge router that I use for
handheld stuff. The Hitachi has an adapter sleeve if you want to use
the smaller shank bits in your table. I don't think it's a matter of
store bought tables not being good enough but the fact that it's so
easy and less expensive to make your own table. Also you can make it
any size you want to suit your needs or space limitations. A search of
this newsgroup will turn up dozens of suggestions on how to build your
own table, some including photos.

Dale

ScRaPLeR wrote:

On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 22:50:00 GMT, ScRaPLeR
wrote:

Have another question for you premo folks,, I am getting ready
to buy a router and table,,,, any recommendations on this or
should I buy a shaper instead...... and or should I buy fixed
base or plunge router..

Choice of router base depends on what you want to do. I got a
PC690 with both bases for freehand work and a DW (something, I
forget which model) with more power and variable speed for my
router table.

I got the Jessem table and fence and a RouterLift; and later
replaced the Jessem fence with an Incra Ultra. If I'd had a clue
(instead of a really pressing project) I'd have bought only the
Incra fence and built everything else - I'd have a setup I'd like
better /and/ have saved more cash than I like to think about.

I have a shaper that's gone unused since I added a router table
to the shop. I'd suggest waiting until/if you find that you
really need one. I'll predict that you won't.

also I have seen a lot of discussion on building your own
router table,,,, is this a better way than to buy one,, are
the ones on the market not good enough or what???

Visit the binary archives and take time to drool over what a
couple of the folks here have built themselves. There're a few
that make the best commercial offerings look pretty Spartan.

--
Morris Dovey
DeSoto Solar
DeSoto, Iowa USA
http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/CNC/

On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 22:50:00 GMT, ScRaPLeR
wrote:



I am setting up my woodworking shop and need advice on the tools I
will place in the shop, specifically I need advice as to what kind of
router and table to buy and would like any input on tablesaws.. I
would like my table saw to be able to do daddo and preferably be able
to rip 4x8 sheets of wood down.. also any other input on additonal
tools would be greatly appreciated.. I already have a bandsaw,
scrollsaw, drillpress and dual laser compound miter saw,, all made by
Delta... Thanks to all who will provide input...

David



My Shop size is 42' x 22'

On 18 Jan 2005 12:26:07 -0800, wrote:

A popular and relatively inexpensive router for a table is a Hitachi
M12V. I believe it's rated at 3 1/4 hp and is a variable speed, soft
start router. I have one in my homemade table and it's worked great. My
table is two pieces of 3/4" MDF glued together and sealed with
water-based poly, about three coats, and then waxed. I banded the edges
with some maple. The router hangs from a piece of 1/4" thick plexiglass
that sits in a rabbet in the top. IIRC the top is about 24" x 36" or
thereabouts. The top sits on an old cabinet on which I mounted wheels (
had to cut a hole through the top for the router). I buy 1/2" bits for
my table and 1/4" bits for an old Skil plunge router that I use for
handheld stuff. The Hitachi has an adapter sleeve if you want to use
the smaller shank bits in your table. I don't think it's a matter of
store bought tables not being good enough but the fact that it's so
easy and less expensive to make your own table. Also you can make it
any size you want to suit your needs or space limitations. A search of
this newsgroup will turn up dozens of suggestions on how to build your
own table, some including photos.

Dale



Thanks For All the Input do you have any suggestions if I were to buy
a router table,, I.E what brand etc.

ScRaPLeR wrote:

I have a little over $7000.00 to spend on my shop...

My Shop size is 42' x 22'

You SUCK! Next you're going to tell me your wife is in the mood for lovin'
three times a day and you just bought 2500 bf of 8/4 walnut for $25.

--
Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan
Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/
http://rosegarden.sourceforge.net/tutorial/

David,

I am glad you got some great input on your shop setup from this group.
Everyone here is glad to share their experiences.

Take a look around my shop and you should pick up a few other good tips and
ideas. If you have any questions, please write to me directly. Good luck

www.woodworkinghobby.com

Dennis Slabaugh
Hobbyist Woodworker





"Silvan" wrote in message
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ScRaPLeR wrote:

I have a little over $7000.00 to spend on my shop...

My Shop size is 42' x 22'

You SUCK! Next you're going to tell me your wife is in the mood for
lovin'
three times a day and you just bought 2500 bf of 8/4 walnut for $25.

--
Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan
Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/
http://rosegarden.sourceforge.net/tutorial/

On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 01:02:17 -0500, Silvan
wrote:

ScRaPLeR wrote:

I have a little over $7000.00 to spend on my shop...

My Shop size is 42' x 22'

You SUCK! Next you're going to tell me your wife is in the mood for lovin'
three times a day and you just bought 2500 bf of 8/4 walnut for $25.


Not Married,,,,Been divorced for 25 years,, learned a very expensive
lesson with that one. No I just have a live in girlfriend who makes
right at double what I make... She is a D.O.N. Director Of Nursing
at a very large retirement facility.. Since I work out of town and
most times out of state we see little of each other but my new shop
will be something we can do together.. She enjoys anything to do with
building anything and loves the out of doors.. I got blessed this
time, after looking for almost 25 years... Hope this does not cause
any ill feelings towards me.. I will most likely need you guys help in
the upcoming weeks/months/years....

Thanks again for all you guys comments and input.. all are
appriciated.

What lottery was you playing when you hit?

ScRaPLeR wrote:

time, after looking for almost 25 years... Hope this does not cause
any ill feelings towards me.. I will most likely need you guys help in
the upcoming weeks/months/years....

No, "you suck" is our way of expressing envy. Getting told you suck is a
good thing around here. You have a bigass shop, ergo you suck. Revel in
it. You just gloated. Mentioning it in passing as you did, it was a
drive-by gloat. Although a gloat is not officially approved by CRAG
(Council of wReck Acknowledgment of Gloats) until not less than two
individuals have independently informed you of your suckage. So, as of
now, your gloat is still unconfirmed.

--
Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan
Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/
http://rosegarden.sourceforge.net/tutorial/