Looking for some guidance.

Running FireFox on XP.

Can minimize FireFox with no problem.

When I restore from the minimize position after some period of time,
usually an hour or so, get a complaint that FireFox is not responding.

This requires that I close out FireFox, then reload and things are
hunky-dory.

Any ideas where to start to solve this problem?

Lew

On 12/4/2013 6:47 PM, Lew Hodgett wrote:
Looking for some guidance.

Running FireFox on XP.

Can minimize FireFox with no problem.

When I restore from the minimize position after some period of time,
usually an hour or so, get a complaint that FireFox is not responding.

This requires that I close out FireFox, then reload and things are
hunky-dory.

Any ideas where to start to solve this problem?

Lew





Have you got the latest updates? I just got a new update today. Mostly
I use Chrome which runs way faster than Firefox but I do have to use
Firefox on some web sites.

On 12/4/2013 6:47 PM, Lew Hodgett wrote:
Looking for some guidance.

Running FireFox on XP.

Can minimize FireFox with no problem.

When I restore from the minimize position after some period of time,
usually an hour or so, get a complaint that FireFox is not responding.

This requires that I close out FireFox, then reload and things are
hunky-dory.

Any ideas where to start to solve this problem?

Disable ALL add-ons and see if the problem persists.

If it does, do a complete uninstall, hard reboot the computer and a
complete reinstall of the latest version.

See what happens and THEN begin adding your add-ons (if any) one by one,
holding your breath each time to see if the symptoms come back.

Unquestionably Confused wrote:
On 12/4/2013 6:47 PM, Lew Hodgett wrote:
Looking for some guidance.

Running FireFox on XP.

Can minimize FireFox with no problem.

When I restore from the minimize position after some period of time,
usually an hour or so, get a complaint that FireFox is not responding.

This requires that I close out FireFox, then reload and things are
hunky-dory.

Any ideas where to start to solve this problem?

Disable ALL add-ons and see if the problem persists.

If it does, do a complete uninstall, hard reboot the computer and a
complete reinstall of the latest version.

See what happens and THEN begin adding your add-ons (if any) one by
one, holding your breath each time to see if the symptoms come back.



I think there's a reasonable chance the problem could be related to
power management settings (in Windows, or in the BIOS (hardware)).

I have encountered the problem. I got to task manager
(ctl+alt+del), and close the offending application. That takes
care of it without restarting the computer (not sure if you were going
that route).

Bill

Lew Hodgett wrote:
Looking for some guidance.

Running FireFox on XP.

Can minimize FireFox with no problem.

When I restore from the minimize position after some period of time,
usually an hour or so, get a complaint that FireFox is not responding.

This requires that I close out FireFox, then reload and things are
hunky-dory.

Any ideas where to start to solve this problem?


This may be a bug in Firefox Lew. I'm still running XP as well, and over
the past couple of months I've had several anomolies with Firefox - all of
which went away on their own after one of their updates. It seems they are
not testing their code very well before making releases these days.

I have not experienced the particular problem you are seeing, but that's not
really saying anything. I'd give it a couple of days and see if the problem
goes away (likely with an update from Mozilla).

--

-Mike-

On 12/4/2013 7:47 PM, Lew Hodgett wrote:
Looking for some guidance.

Running FireFox on XP.

Can minimize FireFox with no problem.

When I restore from the minimize position after some period of time,
usually an hour or so, get a complaint that FireFox is not responding.

Perhaps a switch to Chrome? Chrome runs fine in XP.

Try disabling the plugins, they can be problematic in FF. Flash can be a
crasher and Chrome handles those crashes better. Memory leaks?, dunno
for sure.

I'm a web developer, so I have a wide variety of browsers, FireFox just
doesn't seem to be the animal it used to be.

Jeff

This requires that I close out FireFox, then reload and things are
hunky-dory.

Any ideas where to start to solve this problem?

Lew

j wrote:


Try disabling the plugins, they can be problematic in FF. Flash can
be a crasher and Chrome handles those crashes better. Memory leaks?,
dunno for sure.

I'm a web developer, so I have a wide variety of browsers, FireFox
just doesn't seem to be the animal it used to be.


Unfortunately - that seems to be true. So, as a web developer, are you
suggesting Chrome over Firefox these days? It's not clear from your comment
above. What a shame - Firefox used to be the relief from the Microsoft
crap, and now seems to be more of the same.

--

-Mike-

On 12/4/2013 11:36 PM, Mike Marlow wrote:
j wrote:


Try disabling the plugins, they can be problematic in FF. Flash can
be a crasher and Chrome handles those crashes better. Memory leaks?,
dunno for sure.

I'm a web developer, so I have a wide variety of browsers, FireFox
just doesn't seem to be the animal it used to be.


Unfortunately - that seems to be true. So, as a web developer, are you
suggesting Chrome over Firefox these days?

As a user, yes.

But from a web development standpoint FireFox is fine. So is Chrome, so
is Opera. So is almost everything else. The problem is always IE, which
is always late to support standards. IE9 and up are more or less OK, but
most IE users are stuck on earlier versions.

It's not clear from your comment
above. What a shame - Firefox used to be the relief from the Microsoft
crap, and now seems to be more of the same.

Yes. It is a shame.

I hate IE. I hate MS.

Jeff

Subject

Thanks to all who responded.

It appears the problem is with the home page I had chosen,
Huffington Post, not updating rather than the browser, FireFox.

Guess I shouldn't be surprised now that AOL owns HP.

Just out of curosity, what do other people use as their home
page?


Lew

"Lew Hodgett"
wrote in message Subject

Thanks to all who responded.

It appears the problem is with the home page I
had chosen,
Huffington Post, not updating rather than the
browser, FireFox.

Guess I shouldn't be surprised now that AOL owns
HP.

Just out of curosity, what do other people use
as their home
page?


Lew


Home page? Blank...

On 12/5/2013 4:45 PM, Lew Hodgett wrote:
Subject

Thanks to all who responded.

It appears the problem is with the home page I had chosen,
Huffington Post, not updating rather than the browser, FireFox.

Guess I shouldn't be surprised now that AOL owns HP.

Just out of curosity, what do other people use as their home
page?

What else would you expect from a liberal website, Lew?

I use Yahoo so I can customize the National and local news, my geek
stuff, woodworking stuff like FWW blogs etc. Been using it for ten years
of more and have gotten used to it, and I've had a yahoo email account
for at least that long, so it all works.

I also have a customized local .htm page on my hard drive, with tons of
much used links, that is tabbed to the browser.

--
eWoodShop: www.eWoodShop.com
Wood Shop: www.e-WoodShop.net
google.com/+KarlCaillouet
http://www.custommade.com/by/ewoodshop/
KarlCaillouet@ (the obvious)

Lew Hodgett wrote:
Subject

Thanks to all who responded.

It appears the problem is with the home page I had chosen,
Huffington Post, not updating rather than the browser, FireFox.

Guess I shouldn't be surprised now that AOL owns HP.

Just out of curosity, what do other people use as their home
page?


Lew



My home page is my bookmark page.

--
 GW Ross 

 Make Headlines..use a corduroy 
 pillow.... 

G. Ross wrote:
Lew Hodgett wrote:
Subject

Thanks to all who responded.

It appears the problem is with the home page I had chosen,
Huffington Post, not updating rather than the browser, FireFox.

Guess I shouldn't be surprised now that AOL owns HP.

Just out of curosity, what do other people use as their home
page?


Lew



My home page is my bookmark page.

Mine was Yahoo.com until I was increasingly bombarded with obnoxious
ads, and the frequency of such ads in similar places still appears to
be on the increase.

On Wed, 4 Dec 2013 23:36:36 -0500, "Mike Marlow"
wrote:

j wrote:


Try disabling the plugins, they can be problematic in FF. Flash can
be a crasher and Chrome handles those crashes better. Memory leaks?,
dunno for sure.

I'm a web developer, so I have a wide variety of browsers, FireFox
just doesn't seem to be the animal it used to be.


Unfortunately - that seems to be true. So, as a web developer, are you
suggesting Chrome over Firefox these days? It's not clear from your comment
above. What a shame - Firefox used to be the relief from the Microsoft
crap, and now seems to be more of the same.

I'd rather not jump out of Microsoft's bed into Google's[*]. I'll
stick with Firefox.
[*] Apple vs. Google (cell phones) isn't a lot of choice, IMO.

"Bill" wrote:

Mine was Yahoo.com until I was increasingly bombarded with obnoxious
ads, and the frequency of such ads in similar places still appears
to be on the increase.
----------------------------------------------------
So what are you using instead of yahoo.com?

Lew

Lew Hodgett wrote:
"Bill" wrote:

Mine was Yahoo.com until I was increasingly bombarded with obnoxious
ads, and the frequency of such ads in similar places still appears
to be on the increase.
----------------------------------------------------
So what are you using instead of yahoo.com?

google.com, but it's a matter of "avoidance", rather than because I like
the google.com page so much.
Maybe someone can propose one that is interesting and also not obnoxious.



Lew

On 12/4/2013 11:36 PM, Mike Marlow wrote:
j wrote:


Try disabling the plugins, they can be problematic in FF. Flash can
be a crasher and Chrome handles those crashes better. Memory leaks?,
dunno for sure.

I'm a web developer, so I have a wide variety of browsers, FireFox
just doesn't seem to be the animal it used to be.


Unfortunately - that seems to be true. So, as a web developer, are you
suggesting Chrome over Firefox these days? It's not clear from your comment
above. What a shame - Firefox used to be the relief from the Microsoft
crap, and now seems to be more of the same.


Yea Mozilla has been adding more features that act like MS.
Thunderbird has that same problem... it's annoying.


They took some good products and turned them to ****. I still like
Tbird,buttttt I know the end is coming soon. They just keep leaning the
wrong way.

--
Jeff

On 12/5/2013 5:45 PM, Lew Hodgett wrote:
Subject

Thanks to all who responded.

It appears the problem is with the home page I had chosen,
Huffington Post, not updating rather than the browser, FireFox.

Guess I shouldn't be surprised now that AOL owns HP.

Just out of curosity, what do other people use as their home
page?


Lew



GOOGLE

--
Jeff

On Thu, 05 Dec 2013 14:45:56 -0800, Lew Hodgett wrote:

Just out of curosity, what do other people use as their home page?


Mostly, I use Google - if I leave a browser up at all. Firefox tends to
gradually accumulate memory so I kill it every now and then to clean up
the garbage. Then I don't restart it till I need to browse.

Of course, I'm also the guy who disables networking in the evening when
I'm through for the day - even though I'm not running Windoze. Just mark
me as paranoid.

--
This message was for rec.woodworking - if it appears in homeownershub
they ripped it off.

On Thu, 05 Dec 2013 19:44:15 -0500, Bill
wrote:

Lew Hodgett wrote:
"Bill" wrote:

Mine was Yahoo.com until I was increasingly bombarded with obnoxious
ads, and the frequency of such ads in similar places still appears
to be on the increase.
----------------------------------------------------
So what are you using instead of yahoo.com?

google.com, but it's a matter of "avoidance", rather than because I like
the google.com page so much.
Maybe someone can propose one that is interesting and also not obnoxious.

How about

http://vintagemachinery.org/

On 12/05/2013 05:32 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 4 Dec 2013 23:36:36 -0500, "Mike Marlow"
wrote:

j wrote:


Try disabling the plugins, they can be problematic in FF. Flash can
be a crasher and Chrome handles those crashes better. Memory leaks?,
dunno for sure.

I'm a web developer, so I have a wide variety of browsers, FireFox
just doesn't seem to be the animal it used to be.


Unfortunately - that seems to be true. So, as a web developer, are you
suggesting Chrome over Firefox these days? It's not clear from your comment
above. What a shame - Firefox used to be the relief from the Microsoft
crap, and now seems to be more of the same.

I'd rather not jump out of Microsoft's bed into Google's[*]. I'll
stick with Firefox.

[*] Apple vs. Google (cell phones) isn't a lot of choice, IMO.

Google bought the old Motorola cell phone division (Motorola Mobility)
after Mot split into Motorola Mobility and Motorola Solutions.

If you're talking about Android phones, Android is Linux based.


--
"Socialism is a philosophy of failure,the creed of ignorance, and the
gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery"
-Winston Churchill

On Thu, 05 Dec 2013 18:33:08 -0700, Doug Winterburn
wrote:

On 12/05/2013 05:32 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 4 Dec 2013 23:36:36 -0500, "Mike Marlow"
wrote:

j wrote:


Try disabling the plugins, they can be problematic in FF. Flash can
be a crasher and Chrome handles those crashes better. Memory leaks?,
dunno for sure.

I'm a web developer, so I have a wide variety of browsers, FireFox
just doesn't seem to be the animal it used to be.


Unfortunately - that seems to be true. So, as a web developer, are you
suggesting Chrome over Firefox these days? It's not clear from your comment
above. What a shame - Firefox used to be the relief from the Microsoft
crap, and now seems to be more of the same.

I'd rather not jump out of Microsoft's bed into Google's[*]. I'll
stick with Firefox.

[*] Apple vs. Google (cell phones) isn't a lot of choice, IMO.

Google bought the old Motorola cell phone division (Motorola Mobility)
after Mot split into Motorola Mobility and Motorola Solutions.

It also owns Android.

If you're talking about Android phones, Android is Linux based.

Irrelevant.

On 12/5/2013 8:33 PM, Doug Winterburn wrote:
On 12/05/2013 05:32 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 4 Dec 2013 23:36:36 -0500, "Mike Marlow"
wrote:

j wrote:


Try disabling the plugins, they can be problematic in FF. Flash can
be a crasher and Chrome handles those crashes better. Memory leaks?,
dunno for sure.

I'm a web developer, so I have a wide variety of browsers, FireFox
just doesn't seem to be the animal it used to be.


Unfortunately - that seems to be true. So, as a web developer, are you
suggesting Chrome over Firefox these days? It's not clear from your
comment
above. What a shame - Firefox used to be the relief from the Microsoft
crap, and now seems to be more of the same.

I'd rather not jump out of Microsoft's bed into Google's[*]. I'll
stick with Firefox.

[*] Apple vs. Google (cell phones) isn't a lot of choice, IMO.

Google bought the old Motorola cell phone division (Motorola Mobility)
after Mot split into Motorola Mobility and Motorola Solutions.

If you're talking about Android phones, Android is Linux based.


I use the main search page on Google for my opening page in Firefox.
I use Google as my main search engine. So when I open Firefox, it is
ready for a search.

I export my wife's book marks and she use that for her home page.

I have found that overloaded sent box, delete box, in box, and other storage
area's have created issues for me.
When I dump everything, it works fine.
just me.
john

"Lew Hodgett" wrote in message
eb.com...

Looking for some guidance.

Running FireFox on XP.

Can minimize FireFox with no problem.

When I restore from the minimize position after some period of time,
usually an hour or so, get a complaint that FireFox is not responding.

This requires that I close out FireFox, then reload and things are
hunky-dory.

Any ideas where to start to solve this problem?

Lew

Especially getting rid of messages that you have read....
john

"Lew Hodgett" wrote in message
eb.com...

Looking for some guidance.

Running FireFox on XP.

Can minimize FireFox with no problem.

When I restore from the minimize position after some period of time,
usually an hour or so, get a complaint that FireFox is not responding.

This requires that I close out FireFox, then reload and things are
hunky-dory.

Any ideas where to start to solve this problem?

Lew

On 12/05/2013 06:37 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 05 Dec 2013 18:33:08 -0700, Doug Winterburn
wrote:

On 12/05/2013 05:32 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 4 Dec 2013 23:36:36 -0500, "Mike Marlow"
wrote:

j wrote:


Try disabling the plugins, they can be problematic in FF. Flash can
be a crasher and Chrome handles those crashes better. Memory leaks?,
dunno for sure.

I'm a web developer, so I have a wide variety of browsers, FireFox
just doesn't seem to be the animal it used to be.


Unfortunately - that seems to be true. So, as a web developer, are you
suggesting Chrome over Firefox these days? It's not clear from your comment
above. What a shame - Firefox used to be the relief from the Microsoft
crap, and now seems to be more of the same.

I'd rather not jump out of Microsoft's bed into Google's[*]. I'll
stick with Firefox.

[*] Apple vs. Google (cell phones) isn't a lot of choice, IMO.

Google bought the old Motorola cell phone division (Motorola Mobility)
after Mot split into Motorola Mobility and Motorola Solutions.

It also owns Android.

If you're talking about Android phones, Android is Linux based.

Irrelevant.

Not irrelevant if you're comparing M$ and Google phones.


--
"Socialism is a philosophy of failure,the creed of ignorance, and the
gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery"
-Winston Churchill

On Thu, 05 Dec 2013 18:58:52 -0700, Doug Winterburn
wrote:

On 12/05/2013 06:37 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 05 Dec 2013 18:33:08 -0700, Doug Winterburn
wrote:

On 12/05/2013 05:32 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 4 Dec 2013 23:36:36 -0500, "Mike Marlow"
wrote:

j wrote:


Try disabling the plugins, they can be problematic in FF. Flash can
be a crasher and Chrome handles those crashes better. Memory leaks?,
dunno for sure.

I'm a web developer, so I have a wide variety of browsers, FireFox
just doesn't seem to be the animal it used to be.


Unfortunately - that seems to be true. So, as a web developer, are you
suggesting Chrome over Firefox these days? It's not clear from your comment
above. What a shame - Firefox used to be the relief from the Microsoft
crap, and now seems to be more of the same.

I'd rather not jump out of Microsoft's bed into Google's[*]. I'll
stick with Firefox.

[*] Apple vs. Google (cell phones) isn't a lot of choice, IMO.

Google bought the old Motorola cell phone division (Motorola Mobility)
after Mot split into Motorola Mobility and Motorola Solutions.

It also owns Android.

If you're talking about Android phones, Android is Linux based.

Irrelevant.

Not irrelevant if you're comparing M$ and Google phones.

Of course it is. It doesn't matter a whit where Android comes from,
it is *NOT* Linux. I wasn't really, but that part is apt, anyway.

On 12/05/2013 07:08 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 05 Dec 2013 18:58:52 -0700, Doug Winterburn
wrote:

On 12/05/2013 06:37 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 05 Dec 2013 18:33:08 -0700, Doug Winterburn
wrote:

On 12/05/2013 05:32 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 4 Dec 2013 23:36:36 -0500, "Mike Marlow"
wrote:

j wrote:


Try disabling the plugins, they can be problematic in FF. Flash can
be a crasher and Chrome handles those crashes better. Memory leaks?,
dunno for sure.

I'm a web developer, so I have a wide variety of browsers, FireFox
just doesn't seem to be the animal it used to be.


Unfortunately - that seems to be true. So, as a web developer, are you
suggesting Chrome over Firefox these days? It's not clear from your comment
above. What a shame - Firefox used to be the relief from the Microsoft
crap, and now seems to be more of the same.

I'd rather not jump out of Microsoft's bed into Google's[*]. I'll
stick with Firefox.

[*] Apple vs. Google (cell phones) isn't a lot of choice, IMO.

Google bought the old Motorola cell phone division (Motorola Mobility)
after Mot split into Motorola Mobility and Motorola Solutions.

It also owns Android.

If you're talking about Android phones, Android is Linux based.

Irrelevant.

Not irrelevant if you're comparing M$ and Google phones.

Of course it is. It doesn't matter a whit where Android comes from,
it is *NOT* Linux. I wasn't really, but that part is apt, anyway.

The Android interface is most certainly built on top of the linux
kernel. There are may interfaces that run on top of the linux kernel,
KDE, GNOME, XFCE,....


--
"Socialism is a philosophy of failure,the creed of ignorance, and the
gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery"
-Winston Churchill

On 12/5/2013 4:45 PM, Lew Hodgett wrote:
Subject


Just out of curosity, what do other people use as their home
page?

Google advanced search (or whatever your favorite search engine happens
to be). Remember that with Tbird you can sync your bookmarks, etc. and
stack links on the bookmarks menu - probably a better place for the HP link.


http://www.google.com/advanced_search?hl=en

Ah, brain fart in progress...

Make that FIREFOX!

On Thu, 05 Dec 2013 19:22:21 -0700, Doug Winterburn
wrote:

On 12/05/2013 07:08 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 05 Dec 2013 18:58:52 -0700, Doug Winterburn
wrote:

On 12/05/2013 06:37 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 05 Dec 2013 18:33:08 -0700, Doug Winterburn
wrote:

On 12/05/2013 05:32 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 4 Dec 2013 23:36:36 -0500, "Mike Marlow"
wrote:

j wrote:


Try disabling the plugins, they can be problematic in FF. Flash can
be a crasher and Chrome handles those crashes better. Memory leaks?,
dunno for sure.

I'm a web developer, so I have a wide variety of browsers, FireFox
just doesn't seem to be the animal it used to be.


Unfortunately - that seems to be true. So, as a web developer, are you
suggesting Chrome over Firefox these days? It's not clear from your comment
above. What a shame - Firefox used to be the relief from the Microsoft
crap, and now seems to be more of the same.

I'd rather not jump out of Microsoft's bed into Google's[*]. I'll
stick with Firefox.

[*] Apple vs. Google (cell phones) isn't a lot of choice, IMO.

Google bought the old Motorola cell phone division (Motorola Mobility)
after Mot split into Motorola Mobility and Motorola Solutions.

It also owns Android.

If you're talking about Android phones, Android is Linux based.

Irrelevant.

Not irrelevant if you're comparing M$ and Google phones.

Of course it is. It doesn't matter a whit where Android comes from,
it is *NOT* Linux. I wasn't really, but that part is apt, anyway.

The Android interface is most certainly built on top of the linux
kernel. There are may interfaces that run on top of the linux kernel,
KDE, GNOME, XFCE,....

Oh, good grief, another Linux junky. "The world is Linux!!!!"
GMAFB!

Lew Hodgett wrote:


Just out of curosity, what do other people use as their home
page?


Blank page. I prefer to go to sites the manual way.

--

-Mike-

On 12/05/2013 07:29 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 05 Dec 2013 19:22:21 -0700, Doug Winterburn
wrote:

On 12/05/2013 07:08 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 05 Dec 2013 18:58:52 -0700, Doug Winterburn
wrote:

On 12/05/2013 06:37 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 05 Dec 2013 18:33:08 -0700, Doug Winterburn
wrote:

On 12/05/2013 05:32 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 4 Dec 2013 23:36:36 -0500, "Mike Marlow"
wrote:

j wrote:


Try disabling the plugins, they can be problematic in FF. Flash can
be a crasher and Chrome handles those crashes better. Memory leaks?,
dunno for sure.

I'm a web developer, so I have a wide variety of browsers, FireFox
just doesn't seem to be the animal it used to be.


Unfortunately - that seems to be true. So, as a web developer, are you
suggesting Chrome over Firefox these days? It's not clear from your comment
above. What a shame - Firefox used to be the relief from the Microsoft
crap, and now seems to be more of the same.

I'd rather not jump out of Microsoft's bed into Google's[*]. I'll
stick with Firefox.

[*] Apple vs. Google (cell phones) isn't a lot of choice, IMO.

Google bought the old Motorola cell phone division (Motorola Mobility)
after Mot split into Motorola Mobility and Motorola Solutions.

It also owns Android.

If you're talking about Android phones, Android is Linux based.

Irrelevant.

Not irrelevant if you're comparing M$ and Google phones.

Of course it is. It doesn't matter a whit where Android comes from,
it is *NOT* Linux. I wasn't really, but that part is apt, anyway.

The Android interface is most certainly built on top of the linux
kernel. There are may interfaces that run on top of the linux kernel,
KDE, GNOME, XFCE,....

Oh, good grief, another Linux junky. "The world is Linux!!!!"
GMAFB!

I noticed you didn't refute my statement. As Jack Nicholson said in "A
Few Good Men"... :-)

And yes, been using linux since 1995.

And yes, the internet is run mostly on linux servers on all types of
hardware from Pea Seas up to and including IBM mainframes, not to
mention most infrastructure hardware.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_adoption


--
"Socialism is a philosophy of failure,the creed of ignorance, and the
gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery"
-Winston Churchill

On Thu, 5 Dec 2013 21:47:38 -0500, "Mike Marlow"
wrote:

Lew Hodgett wrote:


Just out of curosity, what do other people use as their home
page?


Blank page. I prefer to go to sites the manual way.

I use the Astronomy Picture of the Day web site, though I rarely ever
see the home page. I never stop the browser and rarely reboot.

On Thu, 05 Dec 2013 19:59:31 -0700, Doug Winterburn
wrote:

On 12/05/2013 07:29 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 05 Dec 2013 19:22:21 -0700, Doug Winterburn
wrote:

On 12/05/2013 07:08 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 05 Dec 2013 18:58:52 -0700, Doug Winterburn
wrote:

On 12/05/2013 06:37 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 05 Dec 2013 18:33:08 -0700, Doug Winterburn
wrote:

On 12/05/2013 05:32 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 4 Dec 2013 23:36:36 -0500, "Mike Marlow"
wrote:

j wrote:


Try disabling the plugins, they can be problematic in FF. Flash can
be a crasher and Chrome handles those crashes better. Memory leaks?,
dunno for sure.

I'm a web developer, so I have a wide variety of browsers, FireFox
just doesn't seem to be the animal it used to be.


Unfortunately - that seems to be true. So, as a web developer, are you
suggesting Chrome over Firefox these days? It's not clear from your comment
above. What a shame - Firefox used to be the relief from the Microsoft
crap, and now seems to be more of the same.

I'd rather not jump out of Microsoft's bed into Google's[*]. I'll
stick with Firefox.

[*] Apple vs. Google (cell phones) isn't a lot of choice, IMO.

Google bought the old Motorola cell phone division (Motorola Mobility)
after Mot split into Motorola Mobility and Motorola Solutions.

It also owns Android.

If you're talking about Android phones, Android is Linux based.

Irrelevant.

Not irrelevant if you're comparing M$ and Google phones.

Of course it is. It doesn't matter a whit where Android comes from,
it is *NOT* Linux. I wasn't really, but that part is apt, anyway.

The Android interface is most certainly built on top of the linux
kernel. There are may interfaces that run on top of the linux kernel,
KDE, GNOME, XFCE,....

Oh, good grief, another Linux junky. "The world is Linux!!!!"
GMAFB!

I noticed you didn't refute my statement.

Why would I refute irrelevance. Your whole argument is.

As Jack Nicholson said in "A
Few Good Men"... :-)
Idiot.

And yes, been using linux since 1995.

Idiot.

And yes, the internet is run mostly on linux servers on all types of
hardware from Pea Seas up to and including IBM mainframes, not to
mention most infrastructure hardware.

Irrelevant.

On 12/05/2013 08:11 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 05 Dec 2013 19:59:31 -0700, Doug Winterburn
wrote:

On 12/05/2013 07:29 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 05 Dec 2013 19:22:21 -0700, Doug Winterburn
wrote:

On 12/05/2013 07:08 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 05 Dec 2013 18:58:52 -0700, Doug Winterburn
wrote:

On 12/05/2013 06:37 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 05 Dec 2013 18:33:08 -0700, Doug Winterburn
wrote:

On 12/05/2013 05:32 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 4 Dec 2013 23:36:36 -0500, "Mike Marlow"
wrote:

j wrote:


Try disabling the plugins, they can be problematic in FF. Flash can
be a crasher and Chrome handles those crashes better. Memory leaks?,
dunno for sure.

I'm a web developer, so I have a wide variety of browsers, FireFox
just doesn't seem to be the animal it used to be.


Unfortunately - that seems to be true. So, as a web developer, are you
suggesting Chrome over Firefox these days? It's not clear from your comment
above. What a shame - Firefox used to be the relief from the Microsoft
crap, and now seems to be more of the same.

I'd rather not jump out of Microsoft's bed into Google's[*]. I'll
stick with Firefox.

[*] Apple vs. Google (cell phones) isn't a lot of choice, IMO.

Google bought the old Motorola cell phone division (Motorola Mobility)
after Mot split into Motorola Mobility and Motorola Solutions.

It also owns Android.

If you're talking about Android phones, Android is Linux based.

Irrelevant.

Not irrelevant if you're comparing M$ and Google phones.

Of course it is. It doesn't matter a whit where Android comes from,
it is *NOT* Linux. I wasn't really, but that part is apt, anyway.

The Android interface is most certainly built on top of the linux
kernel. There are may interfaces that run on top of the linux kernel,
KDE, GNOME, XFCE,....

Oh, good grief, another Linux junky. "The world is Linux!!!!"
GMAFB!

I noticed you didn't refute my statement.

Why would I refute irrelevance. Your whole argument is.

As Jack Nicholson said in "A
Few Good Men"... :-)
Idiot.

And yes, been using linux since 1995.

Idiot.

And yes, the internet is run mostly on linux servers on all types of
hardware from Pea Seas up to and including IBM mainframes, not to
mention most infrastructure hardware.

Irrelevant.

Ah, another M$ fan boi...


--
"Socialism is a philosophy of failure,the creed of ignorance, and the
gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery"
-Winston Churchill

On Thu, 05 Dec 2013 20:17:14 -0700, Doug Winterburn
wrote:

On 12/05/2013 08:11 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 05 Dec 2013 19:59:31 -0700, Doug Winterburn
wrote:

On 12/05/2013 07:29 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 05 Dec 2013 19:22:21 -0700, Doug Winterburn
wrote:

On 12/05/2013 07:08 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 05 Dec 2013 18:58:52 -0700, Doug Winterburn
wrote:

On 12/05/2013 06:37 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 05 Dec 2013 18:33:08 -0700, Doug Winterburn
wrote:

On 12/05/2013 05:32 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 4 Dec 2013 23:36:36 -0500, "Mike Marlow"
wrote:

j wrote:


Try disabling the plugins, they can be problematic in FF. Flash can
be a crasher and Chrome handles those crashes better. Memory leaks?,
dunno for sure.

I'm a web developer, so I have a wide variety of browsers, FireFox
just doesn't seem to be the animal it used to be.


Unfortunately - that seems to be true. So, as a web developer, are you
suggesting Chrome over Firefox these days? It's not clear from your comment
above. What a shame - Firefox used to be the relief from the Microsoft
crap, and now seems to be more of the same.

I'd rather not jump out of Microsoft's bed into Google's[*]. I'll
stick with Firefox.

[*] Apple vs. Google (cell phones) isn't a lot of choice, IMO.

Google bought the old Motorola cell phone division (Motorola Mobility)
after Mot split into Motorola Mobility and Motorola Solutions.

It also owns Android.

If you're talking about Android phones, Android is Linux based.

Irrelevant.

Not irrelevant if you're comparing M$ and Google phones.

Of course it is. It doesn't matter a whit where Android comes from,
it is *NOT* Linux. I wasn't really, but that part is apt, anyway.

The Android interface is most certainly built on top of the linux
kernel. There are may interfaces that run on top of the linux kernel,
KDE, GNOME, XFCE,....

Oh, good grief, another Linux junky. "The world is Linux!!!!"
GMAFB!

I noticed you didn't refute my statement.

Why would I refute irrelevance. Your whole argument is.

As Jack Nicholson said in "A
Few Good Men"... :-)
Idiot.

And yes, been using linux since 1995.

Idiot.

And yes, the internet is run mostly on linux servers on all types of
hardware from Pea Seas up to and including IBM mainframes, not to
mention most infrastructure hardware.

Irrelevant.

Ah, another M$ fan boi...

Idiot. There are none so blind as the true believer.

On 12/05/2013 08:48 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 05 Dec 2013 20:17:14 -0700, Doug Winterburn
wrote:

On 12/05/2013 08:11 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 05 Dec 2013 19:59:31 -0700, Doug Winterburn
wrote:

On 12/05/2013 07:29 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 05 Dec 2013 19:22:21 -0700, Doug Winterburn
wrote:

On 12/05/2013 07:08 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 05 Dec 2013 18:58:52 -0700, Doug Winterburn
wrote:

On 12/05/2013 06:37 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 05 Dec 2013 18:33:08 -0700, Doug Winterburn
wrote:

On 12/05/2013 05:32 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 4 Dec 2013 23:36:36 -0500, "Mike Marlow"
wrote:

j wrote:


Try disabling the plugins, they can be problematic in FF. Flash can
be a crasher and Chrome handles those crashes better. Memory leaks?,
dunno for sure.

I'm a web developer, so I have a wide variety of browsers, FireFox
just doesn't seem to be the animal it used to be.


Unfortunately - that seems to be true. So, as a web developer, are you
suggesting Chrome over Firefox these days? It's not clear from your comment
above. What a shame - Firefox used to be the relief from the Microsoft
crap, and now seems to be more of the same.

I'd rather not jump out of Microsoft's bed into Google's[*]. I'll
stick with Firefox.

[*] Apple vs. Google (cell phones) isn't a lot of choice, IMO.

Google bought the old Motorola cell phone division (Motorola Mobility)
after Mot split into Motorola Mobility and Motorola Solutions.

It also owns Android.

If you're talking about Android phones, Android is Linux based.

Irrelevant.

Not irrelevant if you're comparing M$ and Google phones.

Of course it is. It doesn't matter a whit where Android comes from,
it is *NOT* Linux. I wasn't really, but that part is apt, anyway.

The Android interface is most certainly built on top of the linux
kernel. There are may interfaces that run on top of the linux kernel,
KDE, GNOME, XFCE,....

Oh, good grief, another Linux junky. "The world is Linux!!!!"
GMAFB!

I noticed you didn't refute my statement.

Why would I refute irrelevance. Your whole argument is.

As Jack Nicholson said in "A
Few Good Men"... :-)
Idiot.

And yes, been using linux since 1995.

Idiot.

And yes, the internet is run mostly on linux servers on all types of
hardware from Pea Seas up to and including IBM mainframes, not to
mention most infrastructure hardware.

Irrelevant.

Ah, another M$ fan boi...

Idiot. There are none so blind as the true believer.

Ain't *that* the truth!


--
"Socialism is a philosophy of failure,the creed of ignorance, and the
gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery"
-Winston Churchill

Lew Hodgett wrote:
Subject

Thanks to all who responded.

It appears the problem is with the home page I had chosen,
Huffington Post, not updating rather than the browser,
FireFox.

Guess I shouldn't be surprised now that AOL owns HP.

Just out of curosity, what do other people use as their
home
page?


Lew

Like Karl said, see what them liberal sites will do to your
computer, imagine what they do to your brain eg
I use https://www.startpage.com/

On 12/5/2013 9:29 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 05 Dec 2013 19:22:21 -0700, Doug Winterburn
wrote:

On 12/05/2013 07:08 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 05 Dec 2013 18:58:52 -0700, Doug Winterburn
wrote:

On 12/05/2013 06:37 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 05 Dec 2013 18:33:08 -0700, Doug Winterburn
wrote:

On 12/05/2013 05:32 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 4 Dec 2013 23:36:36 -0500, "Mike Marlow"
wrote:

j wrote:


Try disabling the plugins, they can be problematic in FF. Flash can
be a crasher and Chrome handles those crashes better. Memory leaks?,
dunno for sure.

I'm a web developer, so I have a wide variety of browsers, FireFox
just doesn't seem to be the animal it used to be.


Unfortunately - that seems to be true. So, as a web developer, are you
suggesting Chrome over Firefox these days? It's not clear from your comment
above. What a shame - Firefox used to be the relief from the Microsoft
crap, and now seems to be more of the same.

I'd rather not jump out of Microsoft's bed into Google's[*]. I'll
stick with Firefox.

[*] Apple vs. Google (cell phones) isn't a lot of choice, IMO.

Google bought the old Motorola cell phone division (Motorola Mobility)
after Mot split into Motorola Mobility and Motorola Solutions.

It also owns Android.

If you're talking about Android phones, Android is Linux based.

Irrelevant.

Not irrelevant if you're comparing M$ and Google phones.

Of course it is. It doesn't matter a whit where Android comes from,
it is *NOT* Linux. I wasn't really, but that part is apt, anyway.

The Android interface is most certainly built on top of the linux
kernel. There are may interfaces that run on top of the linux kernel,
KDE, GNOME, XFCE,....

Oh, good grief, another Linux junky. "The world is Linux!!!!"
GMAFB!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_(operating_system)

"Android is an operating system based on the Linux kernel,"

For that matter the Mac OS X is *nix based

Each OS has it's place. But the world is trending away from windows on
the mobile. Windows is a hog, with way too much that never should have
been in the kernel. In mobile devices power consumption is key and *nix
devices are way ahead in that as well as being leaner.