Considering all the discussion about the SawStop and safety, one thing
becomes perfect clear. No matter how safe a tool might be, there's
always going to be someone who finds a way to make that tool
dangerous.

http://toronto.ctv.ca/servlet/an/loc...TorontoNewHome

On Jan 21, 11:12*am, Dave wrote:
Considering all the discussion about the SawStop and safety, one thing
becomes perfect clear. No matter how safe a tool might be, there's
always going to be someone who finds a way to make that tool
dangerous.

http://toronto.ctv.ca/servlet/an/loc.../nail-removed-...

I dunno, Dave.... It isn't April 1 st yet, and somehow I am having a
problem with this. What PSI was this guy running to get the nail to go
that far through bone that deep into the head....
*sceptical me*

On 1/21/12 11:18 AM, Robatoy wrote:
On Jan 21, 11:12 am, wrote:
Considering all the discussion about the SawStop and safety, one thing
becomes perfect clear. No matter how safe a tool might be, there's
always going to be someone who finds a way to make that tool
dangerous.

http://toronto.ctv.ca/servlet/an/loc.../nail-removed-...

I dunno, Dave.... It isn't April 1 st yet, and somehow I am having a
problem with this. What PSI was this guy running to get the nail to go
that far through bone that deep into the head....
*sceptical me*

Just a *very* soft skull. :-)

--
Froz...


The system will be down for 10 days for preventive maintenance.

In ,
Robatoy typed:
....
..

http://toronto.ctv.ca/servlet/an/loc.../nail-removed-...

I dunno, Dave.... It isn't April 1 st yet, and somehow I
am having a problem with this. What PSI was this guy
running to get the nail to go that far through bone that
deep into the head.... *sceptical me*

Huh? I don't know what you picture, but that's a soft, thin-skull area where
the nail supposedly hit. There was no "that far" through bone to go; I'm
actually surprised it didn't go further, in fact.

IF it's a true story. This isn't the first time I've seen that story either.
Since there isn't any kind of working newspaper URL along with it. Trying
the ctv.ca results in "
Sorry, we were unable to find the page you requested."
right now. And a search on ctv.ca exposed no such story, so I agree this one
goes inito the skeptical bin too.

HTH,

Twayne`

Anyone but me wondering how the nail got into the back of his head.
If he were working overhead, and the nail were pointed away it would not
hit him.
If pointed toward him it would come through the face, what did he have
the gun behind his head pointed down????


On 1/21/2012 11:12 AM, Dave wrote:

Considering all the discussion about the SawStop and safety, one thing
becomes perfect clear. No matter how safe a tool might be, there's
always going to be someone who finds a way to make that tool
dangerous.

http://toronto.ctv.ca/servlet/an/loc...TorontoNewHome

On 1/21/2012 12:43 PM, tiredofspam wrote:
Anyone but me wondering how the nail got into the back of his head.
....

ricochet, I would presume...

--

Come on, with enough force off a ricochet to pierce the skull.

They can't even get a bullet to ricochet to kill someone.
They tested on MYTH BUSTERS and could not get enough force from a bullet
to kill someone. They had to amp it up.


On 1/21/2012 1:48 PM, dpb wrote:
On 1/21/2012 12:43 PM, tiredofspam wrote:
Anyone but me wondering how the nail got into the back of his head.
...

ricochet, I would presume...

--

IF it's a true story. This isn't the first time I've seen that story either.
Since there isn't any kind of working newspaper URL along with it. Trying
the ctv.ca results in "


http://www.latimes.com/news/nationwo...,5467139.story

It references the AP.

On Jan 21, 11:12*am, Dave wrote:
Considering all the discussion about the SawStop and safety, one thing
becomes perfect clear. No matter how safe a tool might be, there's
always going to be someone who finds a way to make that tool
dangerous.

http://toronto.ctv.ca/servlet/an/loc.../nail-removed-...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phineas_Gage

On Jan 21, 10:12*am, Dave wrote:
No matter how safe a tool might be, there's
always going to be someone who finds a way to make that tool
dangerous.

So you consider a pneumatic nail gun to be a safe tool? A tool that
can fire a 1-3" steel nail or staple at 100+ mph 1-3" deep into wood
is safe. Apparently there are no dangerous tools in the world.

On 1/21/12 2:05 PM, wrote:
On Jan 21, 10:12 am, wrote:
No matter how safe a tool might be, there's
always going to be someone who finds a way to make that tool
dangerous.

So you consider a pneumatic nail gun to be a safe tool? A tool that
can fire a 1-3" steel nail or staple at 100+ mph 1-3" deep into wood
is safe. Apparently there are no dangerous tools in the world.

Every tool is dangerous and must be respected..... and used in the
safest way.

I watched a video of this guy talking about the accident. It was very
apparent that he used the nail gun in the same very dangerous manner in
which I see lots of guys using them. They keep their fingers on the
trigger, pulling, and allow the "safety" tip to do the firing. That is
how most injuries from "misfires" happen. Most are not misfires at all,
they are just "fires" because idiots keep the trigger pulled.

If the gummint wants to regulate any kind of safety device for nail
guns, they should make it so the trigger has to be released before the
safety tip can be depressed. I'm fairly certain I've used guns like that
before.


--

-MIKE-

"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
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http://mikedrums.com

---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply

Not in my book. When doing framing or roofing, bump fire can be a good
thing. When doing fine stuff, it's not necessary.

Obviously his use was questionable.

On 1/21/2012 3:46 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
On 1/21/12 2:05 PM, wrote:
On Jan 21, 10:12 am, wrote:
No matter how safe a tool might be, there's
always going to be someone who finds a way to make that tool
dangerous.

So you consider a pneumatic nail gun to be a safe tool? A tool that
can fire a 1-3" steel nail or staple at 100+ mph 1-3" deep into wood
is safe. Apparently there are no dangerous tools in the world.

Every tool is dangerous and must be respected..... and used in the
safest way.

I watched a video of this guy talking about the accident. It was very
apparent that he used the nail gun in the same very dangerous manner in
which I see lots of guys using them. They keep their fingers on the
trigger, pulling, and allow the "safety" tip to do the firing. That is
how most injuries from "misfires" happen. Most are not misfires at all,
they are just "fires" because idiots keep the trigger pulled.

If the gummint wants to regulate any kind of safety device for nail
guns, they should make it so the trigger has to be released before the
safety tip can be depressed. I'm fairly certain I've used guns like that
before.

On Sat, 21 Jan 2012 13:43:44 -0500, tiredofspam nospam.nospam.com
Anyone but me wondering how the nail got into the back of his head.
If he were working overhead, and the nail were pointed away it would not
hit him.
If pointed toward him it would come through the face, what did he have
the gun behind his head pointed down????

Yeah, certainly a possibility that it's a sham. But, if I lifted a
nailgun above my head and let my wrist sag for a second, I figure the
angle would be approximately right. And after all, a nail in the head
might well have screwed up his memory as to how it happened.

Finally, CTV does have fact checkers. Unless they're getting desperate
for new stories, someone should have looked into the validity of the
story.

On Sat, 21 Jan 2012 12:26:23 -0500, "Twayne"
wrote:

In ,
Robatoy typed:
...
.

http://toronto.ctv.ca/servlet/an/loc.../nail-removed-...

I dunno, Dave.... It isn't April 1 st yet, and somehow I
am having a problem with this. What PSI was this guy
running to get the nail to go that far through bone that
deep into the head.... *sceptical me*

Huh? I don't know what you picture, but that's a soft, thin-skull area where
the nail supposedly hit. There was no "that far" through bone to go; I'm
actually surprised it didn't go further, in fact.

IF it's a true story. This isn't the first time I've seen that story either.
Since there isn't any kind of working newspaper URL along with it. Trying
the ctv.ca results in "
Sorry, we were unable to find the page you requested."
right now. And a search on ctv.ca exposed no such story, so I agree this one
goes inito the skeptical bin too.

HTH,

Twayne`

You need to go to toronto.ctv.ca, or swo.ctv.ca , or whatever,to get a
page. I remember seing it on the news on swo.ctv.ca a while back.
(Kitchener Ontario CTV outlet - on the 11pm "national" news (as
compared to "local".)

On Sat, 21 Jan 2012 12:26:23 -0500, "Twayne"
wrote:

In ,
Robatoy typed:
...
.

http://toronto.ctv.ca/servlet/an/loc.../nail-removed-...

I dunno, Dave.... It isn't April 1 st yet, and somehow I
am having a problem with this. What PSI was this guy
running to get the nail to go that far through bone that
deep into the head.... *sceptical me*

Huh? I don't know what you picture, but that's a soft, thin-skull area where
the nail supposedly hit. There was no "that far" through bone to go; I'm
actually surprised it didn't go further, in fact.

IF it's a true story. This isn't the first time I've seen that story either.
Since there isn't any kind of working newspaper URL along with it. Trying
the ctv.ca results in "
Sorry, we were unable to find the page you requested."
right now. And a search on ctv.ca exposed no such story, so I agree this one
goes inito the skeptical bin too.

HTH,

Twayne`

It came from The Associated Press

Date: Saturday Jan. 21, 2012 8:07 AM ET

OAK LAWN, Ill

It is reported on all the major news sites - so I'd say it's pretty
safe to say IT HAPPENED in Oak Lawn Ill. on Wednesday.?

On Sat, 21 Jan 2012 13:51:31 -0500, tiredofspam nospam.nospam.com
wrote:

Come on, with enough force off a ricochet to pierce the skull.

They can't even get a bullet to ricochet to kill someone.
They tested on MYTH BUSTERS and could not get enough force from a bullet
to kill someone. They had to amp it up.


On 1/21/2012 1:48 PM, dpb wrote:
On 1/21/2012 12:43 PM, tiredofspam wrote:
Anyone but me wondering how the nail got into the back of his head.
...

ricochet, I would presume...

--
Soft lead bullets and hard steel nails behave differently - and
require different amounts of force to penetrate bone.
He might just have been a REAL clumsy amateur carpenter too.. Trying
to nail down throug top sill into stud, and missed . Or nailing into
roof structure, and bringing nailer down, accidentally fired the darn
thing without being anywhere close to any wood to hold the nail. How
it happened isn't clear. What DOES appear to be sure is it DID.

But then there is still a small but sizeable group of Americans who
still don'r believe man has walked on the moon - - - - - .
Or that their President is an American - or that their president is
NOT a Muslim.

Damn, there I got politics into the thread - now it should continue
on for another 3 weeks or so!!!

On Jan 21, 4:17*pm, tiredofspam nospam.nospam.com wrote:
Not in my book. When doing framing or roofing, bump fire can be a good
thing. When doing fine stuff, it's not necessary.

Obviously his use was questionable.

On 1/21/2012 3:46 PM, -MIKE- wrote:







On 1/21/12 2:05 PM, wrote:
On Jan 21, 10:12 am, wrote:
No matter how safe a tool might be, there's
always going to be someone who finds a way to make that tool
dangerous.

So you consider a pneumatic nail gun to be a safe tool? A tool that
can fire a 1-3" steel nail or staple at 100+ mph 1-3" deep into wood
is safe. Apparently there are no dangerous tools in the world.

Every tool is dangerous and must be respected..... and used in the
safest way.

I watched a video of this guy talking about the accident. It was very
apparent that he used the nail gun in the same very dangerous manner in
which I see lots of guys using them. They keep their fingers on the
trigger, pulling, and allow the "safety" tip to do the firing. That is
how most injuries from "misfires" happen. Most are not misfires at all,
they are just "fires" because idiots keep the trigger pulled.

If the gummint wants to regulate any kind of safety device for nail
guns, they should make it so the trigger has to be released before the
safety tip can be depressed. I'm fairly certain I've used guns like that
before.

Bump firing finishing nails?

On Jan 21, 5:05*pm, wrote:
On Sat, 21 Jan 2012 13:51:31 -0500, tiredofspam nospam.nospam.com
wrote:

Come on, with enough force off a ricochet to pierce the skull.

They can't even get a bullet to ricochet to kill someone.
They tested on MYTH BUSTERS and could not get enough force from a bullet
to kill someone. They had to amp it up.

On 1/21/2012 1:48 PM, dpb wrote:
On 1/21/2012 12:43 PM, tiredofspam wrote:
Anyone but me wondering how the nail got into the back of his head.
...

ricochet, I would presume...

--

Soft lead bullets and hard steel nails behave differently - and
require different amounts of force to penetrate bone.
He might just have been a REAL clumsy amateur carpenter too.. Trying
to nail down throug top sill into stud, and missed . Or nailing into
roof structure, and bringing nailer down, accidentally fired the darn
thing without being anywhere close to any wood to hold the nail. How
it happened isn't clear. What DOES appear to be sure is it DID.

But then there is still a small but sizeable group of Americans who
still don'r believe man has walked on the moon - - - - - .
Or that their President is an American - or that their president is
NOT a Muslim.

*Damn, there I got politics into the thread - now it should continue
on for another 3 weeks or so!!!

Naaaa... you need to be more subtle. I have learned from Hodgett.

On 1/21/2012 2:05 PM, wrote:
On Jan 21, 10:12 am, wrote:
No matter how safe a tool might be, there's
always going to be someone who finds a way to make that tool
dangerous.

So you consider a pneumatic nail gun to be a safe tool? A tool that
can fire a 1-3" steel nail or staple at 100+ mph 1-3" deep into wood
is safe. Apparently there are no dangerous tools in the world.

next thing they'll come up with is Nail $top. Won't fire until it does
a detailed analysis of the object it is up against. LMAO!!

--
Steve Barker
remove the "not" from my address to email

On 1/21/2012 12:51 PM, tiredofspam wrote:

On 1/21/2012 1:48 PM, dpb wrote:
On 1/21/2012 12:43 PM, tiredofspam wrote:
Anyone but me wondering how the nail got into the back of his head.
...

ricochet, I would presume...

Come on, with enough force off a ricochet to pierce the skull.

They can't even get a bullet to ricochet to kill someone.
They tested on MYTH BUSTERS and could not get enough force from a bullet
to kill someone. They had to amp it up.

Myth Busters being the epitome of scientific proof and all ...

**** happens.

--
www.eWoodShop.com
Last update: 4/15/2010
KarlCaillouet@ (the obvious)
http://gplus.to/eWoodShop

On 1/21/2012 4:46 PM, Swingman wrote:
On 1/21/2012 12:51 PM, tiredofspam wrote:

On 1/21/2012 1:48 PM, dpb wrote:
On 1/21/2012 12:43 PM, tiredofspam wrote:
Anyone but me wondering how the nail got into the back of his head.
...

ricochet, I would presume...

Come on, with enough force off a ricochet to pierce the skull.

They can't even get a bullet to ricochet to kill someone.
They tested on MYTH BUSTERS and could not get enough force from a bullet
to kill someone. They had to amp it up.

Myth Busters being the epitome of scientific proof and all ...

**** happens.


yeah, like their recent cannon ball ordeal. LMAO!

--
Steve Barker
remove the "not" from my address to email

In ,
Father Haskell typed:
On Jan 21, 11:12 am, Dave wrote:
Considering all the discussion about the SawStop and
safety, one thing becomes perfect clear. No matter how
safe a tool might be, there's always going to be someone
who finds a way to make that tool dangerous.

http://toronto.ctv.ca/servlet/an/loc.../nail-removed-...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phineas_Gage

Not sure I see the relevance of the Gage article, but it's generally
accepted as true. I wasn't aware of the last two updates, but it's
interesting any way you look at it. But ... it's not exactly relevant, IMO.

HTH,

Twayne`

In ,
typed:
On Jan 21, 10:12 am, Dave wrote:
No matter how safe a tool might be, there's
always going to be someone who finds a way to make that
tool dangerous.

So you consider a pneumatic nail gun to be a safe tool?
A tool that can fire a 1-3" steel nail or staple at 100+
mph 1-3" deep into wood is safe. Apparently there are no
dangerous tools in the world.

I do, yes as the safety had to have been removed from the nail gun. Unless
it was pressed against the skull and the trigger pulled, it should not have
fired the nail. But then, any tool in the hands of the right dummy is
unsafe, regardless of the safety devices installed.
And where did you get the "100+ mph 1-3" deep into wood ..." bit? It's
nonsense and makes as much sense as removing or toying with safety designs
provided with the guns.

In ,
-MIKE- typed:
On 1/21/12 2:05 PM, wrote:
On Jan 21, 10:12 am, wrote:
No matter how safe a tool might be, there's
always going to be someone who finds a way to make that
tool dangerous.

So you consider a pneumatic nail gun to be a safe tool? A tool that can
fire a 1-3" steel nail or staple at 100+
mph 1-3" deep into wood is safe. Apparently there are
no dangerous tools in the world.

Every tool is dangerous and must be respected..... and
used in the safest way.

I watched a video of this guy talking about the accident.
It was very apparent that he used the nail gun in the
same very dangerous manner in which I see lots of guys
using them. They keep their fingers on the trigger,
pulling, and allow the "safety" tip to do the firing.
That is how most injuries from "misfires" happen. Most
are not misfires at all, they are just "fires" because
idiots keep the trigger pulled.
If the gummint wants to regulate any kind of safety
device for nail guns, they should make it so the trigger
has to be released before the safety tip can be
depressed. I'm fairly certain I've used guns like that
before.

Agreed. I wasn't aware they could fire by simply holding the trigger
constantly and lettinig the safety tip do the firing. On mine and any I've
ever seen, if you hold the trigger, it shoots the nail but won't shoot
another one until the safety has been reset and the trigger released and
repulled.
But then the age/design/brand of the nail gun wasn't mentioned either,
along with any details on how one would get a gun at that angle and still
fire it. But I'm sure anything is possible.

In ,
tiredofspam nospam.nospam.com typed:
Not in my book. When doing framing or roofing, bump fire
can be a good thing. When doing fine stuff, it's not
necessary.

Who makes such a gun; any idea?

HTH,

Twayne`




Obviously his use was questionable.

On 1/21/2012 3:46 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
On 1/21/12 2:05 PM, wrote:
On Jan 21, 10:12 am, wrote:
No matter how safe a tool might be, there's
always going to be someone who finds a way to make
that tool dangerous.

So you consider a pneumatic nail gun to be a safe tool?
A tool that can fire a 1-3" steel nail or staple at
100+ mph 1-3" deep into wood is safe. Apparently there
are no dangerous tools in the world.

Every tool is dangerous and must be respected..... and
used in the safest way.

I watched a video of this guy talking about the
accident. It was very apparent that he used the nail gun
in the same very dangerous manner in which I see lots of
guys using them. They keep their fingers on the trigger,
pulling, and allow the "safety" tip to do the firing.
That is how most injuries from "misfires" happen. Most
are not misfires at all, they are just "fires" because
idiots keep the trigger pulled. If the gummint wants to regulate any
kind of safety
device for nail guns, they should make it so the trigger
has to be released before the safety tip can be
depressed. I'm fairly certain I've used guns like that
before.

On Sat, 21 Jan 2012 18:47:00 -0500, "Twayne"
Not in my book. When doing framing or roofing, bump fire
can be a good thing. When doing fine stuff, it's not
necessary.

Who makes such a gun; any idea?

??? Everybody makes such a nail gun. It's a common feature of many
nail guns and is a practice used by almost every contractor especially
in the framing industry.

Steve Barker wrote the following on 1/21/2012 5:15 PM (ET):
On 1/21/2012 2:05 PM, wrote:
On Jan 21, 10:12 am, wrote:
No matter how safe a tool might be, there's
always going to be someone who finds a way to make that tool
dangerous.

So you consider a pneumatic nail gun to be a safe tool? A tool that
can fire a 1-3" steel nail or staple at 100+ mph 1-3" deep into wood
is safe. Apparently there are no dangerous tools in the world.

next thing they'll come up with is Nail $top. Won't fire until it does
a detailed analysis of the object it is up against. LMAO!!


They'll use a hot dog to test it.

--
Bill
In Hamptonburgh, NY
In the original Orange County. Est. 1683
To email, remove the double zeros after @

On 1/22/2012 8:19 AM, willshak wrote:
Steve Barker wrote the following on 1/21/2012 5:15 PM (ET):
On 1/21/2012 2:05 PM, wrote:
On Jan 21, 10:12 am, wrote:
No matter how safe a tool might be, there's
always going to be someone who finds a way to make that tool
dangerous.

So you consider a pneumatic nail gun to be a safe tool? A tool that
can fire a 1-3" steel nail or staple at 100+ mph 1-3" deep into wood
is safe. Apparently there are no dangerous tools in the world.

next thing they'll come up with is Nail $top. Won't fire until it does
a detailed analysis of the object it is up against. LMAO!!


They'll use a hot dog to test it.


No, I think they should use Steve Baker to test it. After all he is the
end all answer to all unsolved mysteries.

On Jan 21, 10:12*am, Dave wrote:
Considering all the discussion about the SawStop and safety, one thing
becomes perfect clear. No matter how safe a tool might be, there's
always going to be someone who finds a way to make that tool
dangerous.

http://toronto.ctv.ca/servlet/an/loc.../nail-removed-...

Oh NO!

SSSHHHHHH!!!!

If this gets out, no matter how stupid the guy is, the Government will
get involved. Regulators will regulate. Legislation will follow.

Your run of the mill trim nailer will cost $4,800; and you will have
to be trained and licensed to use it!

RonB

On 1/22/2012 8:19 AM, willshak wrote:
Steve Barker wrote the following on 1/21/2012 5:15 PM (ET):
On 1/21/2012 2:05 PM, wrote:
On Jan 21, 10:12 am, wrote:
No matter how safe a tool might be, there's
always going to be someone who finds a way to make that tool
dangerous.

So you consider a pneumatic nail gun to be a safe tool? A tool that
can fire a 1-3" steel nail or staple at 100+ mph 1-3" deep into wood
is safe. Apparently there are no dangerous tools in the world.

next thing they'll come up with is Nail $top. Won't fire until it does
a detailed analysis of the object it is up against. LMAO!!


They'll use a hot dog to test it.


nope, a cantelope. more like a head. LOL!

--
Steve Barker
remove the "not" from my address to email

On 1/22/2012 9:05 AM, Leon wrote:
On 1/22/2012 8:19 AM, willshak wrote:
Steve Barker wrote the following on 1/21/2012 5:15 PM (ET):
On 1/21/2012 2:05 PM, wrote:
On Jan 21, 10:12 am, wrote:
No matter how safe a tool might be, there's
always going to be someone who finds a way to make that tool
dangerous.

So you consider a pneumatic nail gun to be a safe tool? A tool that
can fire a 1-3" steel nail or staple at 100+ mph 1-3" deep into wood
is safe. Apparently there are no dangerous tools in the world.

next thing they'll come up with is Nail $top. Won't fire until it does
a detailed analysis of the object it is up against. LMAO!!


They'll use a hot dog to test it.


No, I think they should use Steve Baker to test it. After all he is the
end all answer to all unsolved mysteries.

and hopefully when they fill out the forms, they will spell my name
correctly. Thanks for playing!

--
Steve Barker
remove the "not" from my address to email

On Jan 21, 3:46*pm, -MIKE- wrote:
On 1/21/12 2:05 PM, wrote:

On Jan 21, 10:12 am, *wrote:
No matter how safe a tool might be, there's
always going to be someone who finds a way to make that tool
dangerous.

So you consider a pneumatic nail gun to be a safe tool? *A tool that
can fire a 1-3" steel nail or staple at 100+ mph 1-3" deep into wood
is safe. *Apparently there are no dangerous tools in the world.

Every tool is dangerous and must be respected..... and used in the
safest way.

I watched a video of this guy talking about the accident. It was very
apparent that he used the nail gun in the same very dangerous manner in
which I see lots of guys using them. They keep their fingers on the
trigger, pulling, and allow the "safety" tip to do the firing. That is
how most injuries from "misfires" happen. Most are not misfires at all,
they are just "fires" because idiots keep the trigger pulled.

Or they're trying to lay down sheathing in as little time as
possible. Mea culpa...

On 1/22/2012 6:45 PM, Steve Barker wrote:
On 1/22/2012 9:05 AM, Leon wrote:
On 1/22/2012 8:19 AM, willshak wrote:
Steve Barker wrote the following on 1/21/2012 5:15 PM (ET):
On 1/21/2012 2:05 PM, wrote:
On Jan 21, 10:12 am, wrote:
No matter how safe a tool might be, there's
always going to be someone who finds a way to make that tool
dangerous.

So you consider a pneumatic nail gun to be a safe tool? A tool that
can fire a 1-3" steel nail or staple at 100+ mph 1-3" deep into wood
is safe. Apparently there are no dangerous tools in the world.

next thing they'll come up with is Nail $top. Won't fire until it does
a detailed analysis of the object it is up against. LMAO!!


They'll use a hot dog to test it.


No, I think they should use Steve Baker to test it. After all he is the
end all answer to all unsolved mysteries.

and hopefully when they fill out the forms, they will spell my name
correctly. Thanks for playing!


;~)

Some believe that their nail guns have a special type of velocity that only
penetrates wood and can't fly further than the length of the nail, in air,
too.

Let's see who has the details and where they get them from.


---------------
wrote in message ...

On Sat, 21 Jan 2012 13:51:31 -0500, tiredofspam nospam.nospam.com
wrote:
Soft lead bullets and hard steel nails behave differently - and
require different amounts of force to penetrate bone.
He might just have been a REAL clumsy amateur carpenter too.. Trying
to nail down throug top sill into stud, and missed . Or nailing into
roof structure, and bringing nailer down, accidentally fired the darn
thing without being anywhere close to any wood to hold the nail. How
it happened isn't clear. What DOES appear to be sure is it DID.

But then there is still a small but sizeable group of Americans who
still don'r believe man has walked on the moon - - - - - .
Or that their President is an American - or that their president is
NOT a Muslim.

Damn, there I got politics into the thread - now it should continue
on for another 3 weeks or so!!!

Facebook proves it!

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"Dave" wrote in message ...
Yeah, certainly a possibility that it's a sham. But, if I lifted a
nailgun above my head and let my wrist sag for a second, I figure the
angle would be approximately right. And after all, a nail in the head
might well have screwed up his memory as to how it happened.

Finally, CTV does have fact checkers. Unless they're getting desperate
for new stories, someone should have looked into the validity of the
story.

Just hold down the trigger and one safety device is already bypassed.

Like Dave said....everybody.

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"Dave" wrote in message news ??? Everybody makes such a nail gun. It's a common feature of many
nail guns and is a practice used by almost every contractor especially
in the framing industry.

The electrical tape holding the tip sleeve back wasn't mentioned either. I
would say details were withheld by the nailhead guy.

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"Twayne" wrote in message ...
Agreed. I wasn't aware they could fire by simply holding the trigger
constantly and lettinig the safety tip do the firing. On mine and any I've
ever seen, if you hold the trigger, it shoots the nail but won't shoot
another one until the safety has been reset and the trigger released and
repulled.
But then the age/design/brand of the nail gun wasn't mentioned either,
along with any details on how one would get a gun at that angle and still
fire it. But I'm sure anything is possible.

Is the hotdog the victim of the nail or the operator?

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"willshak" wrote in message
m...

They'll use a hot dog to test it.

If you have used one, it is quite easy. You hold the safety sleeve against
the wood and fire. The nail misses the edge of the intended wood and flies
through the air. Reach up over the edge of the sheeting from below and fire
it back at yourself. It usually goes into the wood and you don't have to
climb on the roof.

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"Twayne" wrote in message ...

I do, yes as the safety had to have been removed from the nail gun. Unless
it was pressed against the skull and the trigger pulled, it should not have
fired the nail. But then, any tool in the hands of the right dummy is
unsafe, regardless of the safety devices installed.
And where did you get the "100+ mph 1-3" deep into wood ..." bit? It's
nonsense and makes as much sense as removing or toying with safety designs
provided with the guns.

On 1/23/12 5:09 PM, Josepi wrote:
Some believe that their nail guns have a special type of velocity that
only penetrates wood and can't fly further than the length of the nail,
in air, too.

Let's see who has the details and where they get them from.


I believe it was someone claiming a nail gun could kill a man from a
half mile.

....and it's still bull****.


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