I've got a little John Nelson plan for a dinner-table-type folding
candle-holder that's full of "Gotcha's".

One is candle size. I need to drill hard curly-maple for the base of the
candles. Nelson sez to use candles with .5" base: I can't find any locally.
But I've got some with 17/32" base.

I have no bits greater than .5". I don't *think* they make a 17/32" spade
bit. I tried wiggling the .5" bit to enlarge the hole a little. It didn't
work.

Do I have to special-order a 17/32" drill bit? Is there another way.

Apologies for the nickel/dime question.

Will

In article ,
Wilfred Xavier Pickles wrote:

One is candle size. I need to drill hard curly-maple for the base of the
candles. Nelson sez to use candles with .5" base: I can't find any locally.
But I've got some with 17/32" base.

I have no bits greater than .5". I don't *think* they make a 17/32" spade
bit. I tried wiggling the .5" bit to enlarge the hole a little. It didn't
work.

Chuck it up in your lathe and cut the hole bigger.

No lathe - dowel (slit) and coarse sandpaper - grind the hole bigger
(cheat and use small sanding drums for dremel, etc if you happen to have
those in a size to suit.)

Or wiggle the 1/2" drill with greater effort. Or get in there with a
router bit (maintain control, and practice on scrap if you have never
tried that particular application of a router.) Roto-zip bits (no actual
roto-zip tool required) provide yet another possible approach to
side-cutting.

Or - modify the candles - they are wax, easy to cut/sand/heat and
mold/scrape them down to 1/2 inch if you like.

--
Cats, coffee, chocolate...vices to live by

"Wilfred Xavier Pickles" wrote in message
...

I've got a little John Nelson plan for a dinner-table-type folding
candle-holder that's full of "Gotcha's".

One is candle size. I need to drill hard curly-maple for the base of the
candles. Nelson sez to use candles with .5" base: I can't find any
locally.
But I've got some with 17/32" base.

I have no bits greater than .5". I don't *think* they make a 17/32" spade
bit. I tried wiggling the .5" bit to enlarge the hole a little. It didn't
work.

Do I have to special-order a 17/32" drill bit? Is there another way.

Apologies for the nickel/dime question.

Will

Heat the candle base and push it into 1/2" hole.

I can't imagine 1/32" makes that much difference. Get a 9/16" bit,
drill the hole, .... then wet the wood, to make it swell, if need be.

Sonny

On 1/27/2011 4:12 PM, Wilfred Xavier Pickles wrote:

I've got a little John Nelson plan for a dinner-table-type folding
candle-holder that's full of "Gotcha's".

One is candle size. I need to drill hard curly-maple for the base of the
candles. Nelson sez to use candles with .5" base: I can't find any locally.
But I've got some with 17/32" base.

I have no bits greater than .5". I don't *think* they make a 17/32" spade
bit. I tried wiggling the .5" bit to enlarge the hole a little. It didn't
work.

Do I have to special-order a 17/32" drill bit? Is there another way.

Apologies for the nickel/dime question.

Will
Will:

I'd also suggest using a forstner bit rather than a spade bit to drill
the holes. You'll get a much cleaner hole, particularly in curly maple.

Per the other suggestions, a 1/2" bit should work and you can get a 1/2"
forstner at any retail hardware store.

~Mark.

"Leon" wrote
"Wilfred Xavier Pickles" wrote in message
...

I've got a little John Nelson plan for a dinner-table-type folding
candle-holder that's full of "Gotcha's".

One is candle size. I need to drill hard curly-maple for the base of the
candles. Nelson sez to use candles with .5" base: I can't find any
locally.
But I've got some with 17/32" base.

I have no bits greater than .5". I don't *think* they make a 17/32" spade
bit. I tried wiggling the .5" bit to enlarge the hole a little. It didn't
work.

Do I have to special-order a 17/32" drill bit? Is there another way.

Apologies for the nickel/dime question.

Will

Heat the candle base and push it into 1/2" hole.
I have seen candles carved to fit into a smaller holder as well. It carves
easily. Any kind of knife with a short blade should do.

"Wilfred Xavier Pickles" wrote in message
...

I've got a little John Nelson plan for a dinner-table-type folding
candle-holder that's full of "Gotcha's".

One is candle size. I need to drill hard curly-maple for the base of the
candles. Nelson sez to use candles with .5" base: I can't find any locally.
But I've got some with 17/32" base.

I have no bits greater than .5". I don't *think* they make a 17/32" spade
bit. I tried wiggling the .5" bit to enlarge the hole a little. It didn't
work.

Do I have to special-order a 17/32" drill bit? Is there another way.

Apologies for the nickel/dime question.

Will

Get a 9/16" (or bigger) spade bit and grind or file 1/64" (or more)
from each side.
Art

On Thu, 27 Jan 2011 16:34:46 -0500, Ecnerwal
wrote:

Chuck it up in your lathe and cut the hole bigger.

No lathe - dowel (slit) and coarse sandpaper - grind the hole bigger
(cheat and use small sanding drums for dremel, etc if you happen to have
those in a size to suit.)

Or wiggle the 1/2" drill with greater effort. Or get in there with a
router bit (maintain control, and practice on scrap if you have never
tried that particular application of a router.) Roto-zip bits (no actual
roto-zip tool required) provide yet another possible approach to
side-cutting.

Or - modify the candles - they are wax, easy to cut/sand/heat and
mold/scrape them down to 1/2 inch if you like.

No lathe. Each holder takes 6 candles. I'll make about 6 holders.
All but 1 will be gifted. I don't want giftees to have to
whittle candles. The router bit thing is, for me, an invitation
to disaster.

Thx,
Will

On Thu, 27 Jan 2011 17:19:07 -0500, Woody wrote:

I'd also suggest using a forstner bit rather than a spade bit to drill
the holes. You'll get a much cleaner hole, particularly in curly maple.

Per the other suggestions, a 1/2" bit should work and you can get a 1/2"
forstner at any retail hardware store.

It doesn't fit. I tried 1/2 and 5/8" forstner. 1/2 is very noticibly
too small, 5/8 is very noticibly too big.

Damn these odd-ball diameters!

Thx,
Will

On Jan 27, 4:12*pm, Wilfred Xavier Pickles
wrote:
I've got a little John Nelson plan for a dinner-table-type folding
candle-holder that's full of "Gotcha's".

One is candle size. I need to drill hard curly-maple for the base of the
candles. Nelson sez to use candles with .5" base: I can't find any locally.
But I've got some with 17/32" base.

I have no bits greater than .5". I don't *think* they make a 17/32" spade
bit. I tried wiggling the .5" bit to enlarge the hole a little. It didn't
work.

Do I have to special-order a 17/32" drill bit? Is there another way.

Apologies for the nickel/dime question.

* Will

Bushings. What's the OD on 1/2" copper pipe?

On Thu, 27 Jan 2011 14:50:01 -0800, "Artemus"
wrote:


"Wilfred Xavier Pickles" wrote in message
.. .

I've got a little John Nelson plan for a dinner-table-type folding
candle-holder that's full of "Gotcha's".

One is candle size. I need to drill hard curly-maple for the base of the
candles. Nelson sez to use candles with .5" base: I can't find any locally.
But I've got some with 17/32" base.

I have no bits greater than .5". I don't *think* they make a 17/32" spade
bit. I tried wiggling the .5" bit to enlarge the hole a little. It didn't
work.

Do I have to special-order a 17/32" drill bit? Is there another way.

Apologies for the nickel/dime question.

Will

Get a 9/16" (or bigger) spade bit and grind or file 1/64" (or more)
from each side.
Art


This would be my choice. I'd grind it to match the taper of the
candles base as needed.

--
Jack Novak
Buffalo, NY - USA

Wilfred Xavier Pickles wrote in
:

It doesn't fit. I tried 1/2 and 5/8" forstner. 1/2 is very noticibly
too small, 5/8 is very noticibly too big.

Damn these odd-ball diameters!

Thx,
Will


Are metric bits available? I notice 17/32 is really close to 13.5mm, maybe
a 13 or 14mm bit would work?

http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/in...ion-d_751.html

Puckdropper

On Jan 27, 5:20*pm, "Lee Michaels" leemichaels*nadaspam* at comcast
dot net wrote:
"Leon" wrote



"Wilfred Xavier Pickles" wrote in message
.. .

I've got a little John Nelson plan for a dinner-table-type folding
candle-holder that's full of "Gotcha's".

One is candle size. I need to drill hard curly-maple for the base of the
candles. Nelson sez to use candles with .5" base: I can't find any
locally.
But I've got some with 17/32" base.

I have no bits greater than .5". I don't *think* they make a 17/32" spade
bit. I tried wiggling the .5" bit to enlarge the hole a little. It didn't
work.

Do I have to special-order a 17/32" drill bit? Is there another way.

Apologies for the nickel/dime question.

*Will

Heat the candle base and push it into 1/2" hole.

I have seen candles carved to fit into a smaller holder as well. *It carves
easily. Any kind of knife with a short blade should do.


I have carved candles before, got hot wax all over my hands, almost
set my hair on fire...I must have done it wrong...

On Thu, 27 Jan 2011 14:50:01 -0800, "Artemus" wrote:

Get a 9/16" (or bigger) spade bit and grind or file 1/64" (or more)
from each side.

Not a bad idea. If a local store has the 9/16" spade, my bench-grinder
will likely do the job.

Thanks,
Will

On Thu, 27 Jan 2011 18:20:06 -0500, Nova wrote:

Get a 9/16" (or bigger) spade bit and grind or file 1/64" (or more) from
each side.
Art


This would be my choice. I'd grind it to match the taper of the candles
base as needed.

That, including the taper, is the way I've seen it handled. Haven't done
it myself, but some turners that command high prices for their
candlesticks do it that way. Grinding down a spade bit isn't very
difficult.

--
Intelligence is an experiment that failed - G. B. Shaw

On Thu, 27 Jan 2011 14:50:01 -0800, "Artemus"
wrote:


"Wilfred Xavier Pickles" wrote in message
.. .

I've got a little John Nelson plan for a dinner-table-type folding
candle-holder that's full of "Gotcha's".

One is candle size. I need to drill hard curly-maple for the base of the
candles. Nelson sez to use candles with .5" base: I can't find any locally.
But I've got some with 17/32" base.

I have no bits greater than .5". I don't *think* they make a 17/32" spade
bit. I tried wiggling the .5" bit to enlarge the hole a little. It didn't
work.

Do I have to special-order a 17/32" drill bit? Is there another way.

Apologies for the nickel/dime question.

Will

Get a 9/16" (or bigger) spade bit and grind or file 1/64" (or more)
from each side.

Art has the winning answer there, Wee Willy. Spade bits are cheap and
grind very easily.

--
Ask not what the world needs. Ask what makes you come
alive... then go do it. Because what the world needs
is people who have come alive. -- Howard Thurman

On Thu, 27 Jan 2011 15:56:56 -0800, Robatoy wrote:

On Jan 27, 5:20Â*pm, "Lee Michaels" leemichaels*nadaspam* at comcast dot
net wrote:
"Leon" wrote



"Wilfred Xavier Pickles" wrote in message
.. .

I've got a little John Nelson plan for a dinner-table-type folding
candle-holder that's full of "Gotcha's".

One is candle size. I need to drill hard curly-maple for the base of
the candles. Nelson sez to use candles with .5" base: I can't find
any locally.
But I've got some with 17/32" base.

I have no bits greater than .5". I don't *think* they make a 17/32"
spade bit. I tried wiggling the .5" bit to enlarge the hole a
little. It didn't work.

Do I have to special-order a 17/32" drill bit? Is there another way.

Apologies for the nickel/dime question.

Â*Will

Heat the candle base and push it into 1/2" hole.

I have seen candles carved to fit into a smaller holder as well. Â*It
carves easily. Any kind of knife with a short blade should do.


I have carved candles before, got hot wax all over my hands, almost set
my hair on fire...I must have done it wrong...

Your supposed to wear gloves and hold it away from your face

basilisk



--
A wink is as good as a nod to a blind horse

"Wilfred Xavier Pickles" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 27 Jan 2011 17:19:07 -0500, Woody wrote:

I'd also suggest using a forstner bit rather than a spade bit to drill
the holes. You'll get a much cleaner hole, particularly in curly maple.

Per the other suggestions, a 1/2" bit should work and you can get a 1/2"
forstner at any retail hardware store.

It doesn't fit. I tried 1/2 and 5/8" forstner. 1/2 is very noticibly
too small, 5/8 is very noticibly too big.

Damn these odd-ball diameters!

Thx,
Will
The end of a candle is tapered. All commercial candle holders are tapered
for that reason. A strait hole, whether the candle fits it or not, will not
be secure.

On Thu, 27 Jan 2011 14:50:01 -0800, "Artemus"
wrote:


"Wilfred Xavier Pickles" wrote in message
.. .

I've got a little John Nelson plan for a dinner-table-type folding
candle-holder that's full of "Gotcha's".

One is candle size. I need to drill hard curly-maple for the base of the
candles. Nelson sez to use candles with .5" base: I can't find any locally.
But I've got some with 17/32" base.

I have no bits greater than .5". I don't *think* they make a 17/32" spade
bit. I tried wiggling the .5" bit to enlarge the hole a little. It didn't
work.

Do I have to special-order a 17/32" drill bit? Is there another way.

Apologies for the nickel/dime question.

Will

Get a 9/16" (or bigger) spade bit and grind or file 1/64" (or more)
from each side.
Art


That is what I had to do on a project to obtain the correct diameter
hole. All it cost was a cheap drill bit to get the job done. Just
grind a little and drill a test hole and then grind a little more if
necessary. Just remember, you can't un-grind it!

My thoughts too.
When I did my router table I went to woodcraft and picked up a 13mm for
my 1/2 bits. Made the fit perfect. 14mm might be the better alternative.
I doubt the candles are perfect.

On 1/27/2011 6:47 PM, Puckdropper wrote:
Wilfred Xavier wrote in
:

It doesn't fit. I tried 1/2 and 5/8" forstner. 1/2 is very noticibly
too small, 5/8 is very noticibly too big.

Damn these odd-ball diameters!

Thx,
Will


Are metric bits available? I notice 17/32 is really close to 13.5mm, maybe
a 13 or 14mm bit would work?

http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/in...ion-d_751.html

Puckdropper

Wilfred Xavier Pickles wrote:

No lathe. Each holder takes 6 candles. I'll make about 6 holders.
All but 1 will be gifted. I don't want giftees to have to
whittle candles. The router bit thing is, for me, an invitation
to disaster.


Perfect excuse to buy a new tool.

But don't lathe the holder, chuck up the candles and have a go.

Wilfred Xavier Pickles wrote:
I've got a little John Nelson plan for a dinner-table-type folding
candle-holder that's full of "Gotcha's".

One is candle size. I need to drill hard curly-maple for the base of
the candles. Nelson sez to use candles with .5" base: I can't find
any locally. But I've got some with 17/32" base.

I have no bits greater than .5". I don't *think* they make a 17/32"
spade bit. I tried wiggling the .5" bit to enlarge the hole a little.
It didn't work.

Do I have to special-order a 17/32" drill bit? Is there another way.

Apologies for the nickel/dime question.



You've got the wrong sized candles.

?
"Wilfred Xavier Pickles" wrote

Do I have to special-order a 17/32" drill bit? Is there another way.

Apologies for the nickel/dime question.

Will

McMaster Carr has a brad point bit for $22.

Wilfred, google for "candle sharpener". Like a pencil sharpener for candles.
About two bucks apiece or a little more. For example:
http://www.dlightonline.com/-strse-8...%2C/Detail.bok

Tom D

"Wilfred Xavier Pickles" wrote in message
...


I've got a little John Nelson plan for a dinner-table-type folding
candle-holder that's full of "Gotcha's".

One is candle size. I need to drill hard curly-maple for the base of the
candles. Nelson sez to use candles with .5" base: I can't find any locally.
But I've got some with 17/32" base.

I have no bits greater than .5". I don't *think* they make a 17/32" spade
bit. I tried wiggling the .5" bit to enlarge the hole a little. It didn't
work.

Do I have to special-order a 17/32" drill bit? Is there another way.

Apologies for the nickel/dime question.

Will

On Thu, 27 Jan 2011 14:50:01 -0800, "Artemus" wrote:

Get a 9/16" (or bigger) spade bit and grind or file 1/64" (or more)
from each side.

I had an old Irwin 5/8 that I ground down.

Crude but effective: I think it'll do the job.

Many Thanks,
Will

On 1/27/11 10:55 PM, Wilfred Xavier Pickles wrote:
On Thu, 27 Jan 2011 14:50:01 -0800, wrote:

Get a 9/16" (or bigger) spade bit and grind or file 1/64" (or more)
from each side.

I had an old Irwin 5/8 that I ground down.

Crude but effective: I think it'll do the job.

Many Thanks,
Will

I've ground down spade bits before and even put a taper on them.
It's pretty easy to sharpen the side enough to get a decent hole.


--

-MIKE-

"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
http://mikedrums.com

---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply

On Thu, 27 Jan 2011 15:12:26 -0600, Wilfred Xavier Pickles
wrote:


I've got a little John Nelson plan for a dinner-table-type folding
candle-holder that's full of "Gotcha's".

One is candle size. I need to drill hard curly-maple for the base of the
candles. Nelson sez to use candles with .5" base: I can't find any locally.
But I've got some with 17/32" base.

I have no bits greater than .5". I don't *think* they make a 17/32" spade
bit. I tried wiggling the .5" bit to enlarge the hole a little. It didn't
work.

Do I have to special-order a 17/32" drill bit? Is there another way.

Apologies for the nickel/dime question.

Will

Any size drum sander.. or make your own, as suggested..
A 1/2 drum sander is only a few bucks and will let you customize the
hole to the candle..

"Sonny" wrote in message
...
I can't imagine 1/32" makes that much difference. Get a 9/16" bit,
drill the hole, .... then wet the wood, to make it swell, if need be.

Sonny


I would think that it would dry out and become loose again and add to that
it may split as it dries again.

On Jan 27, 4:12*pm, Wilfred Xavier Pickles
wrote:

I've taken a spade bit and ground it down to a needed size - and, you
can make it a taper bit in the process. Drill your half-inch hole,
then enlarge with the spade bit. If these candle holders are for your
own use, you could make the half-inch hole, cut a kerf, insert/glue a
bit of old hack saw blade and use it to cut teh candle bases down to
size - I think they sell something like this for making dowels.

On 1/27/2011 6:03 PM, Wilfred Xavier Pickles wrote:
On Thu, 27 Jan 2011 17:19:07 -0500, wrote:

I'd also suggest using a forstner bit rather than a spade bit to drill
the holes. You'll get a much cleaner hole, particularly in curly maple.

Per the other suggestions, a 1/2" bit should work and you can get a 1/2"
forstner at any retail hardware store.

It doesn't fit. I tried 1/2 and 5/8" forstner. 1/2 is very noticibly
too small, 5/8 is very noticibly too big.

Damn these odd-ball diameters!

Thx,
Will

Amazon has 17/32" bits he
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_no...ll+bit&x=0&y=0

On Thu, 27 Jan 2011 21:27:52 -0600, "HeyBub" wrote:

Wilfred Xavier Pickles wrote:
I've got a little John Nelson plan for a dinner-table-type folding
candle-holder that's full of "Gotcha's".

One is candle size. I need to drill hard curly-maple for the base of
the candles. Nelson sez to use candles with .5" base: I can't find
any locally. But I've got some with 17/32" base.

I have no bits greater than .5". I don't *think* they make a 17/32"
spade bit. I tried wiggling the .5" bit to enlarge the hole a little.
It didn't work.

Do I have to special-order a 17/32" drill bit? Is there another way.

Apologies for the nickel/dime question.



You've got the wrong sized candles.

The plan said .5" diameter, 5" hi. Just a half-size taper.

I live in a good-size city, figgered they'd be easy to find.

I couldn't find 'em anywhere. Most stores had full-size tapers
and all kinds of fat candles and candles in glass. Target had
2 full shelves of that and nary a taper. Curious.

What I got at a Catholic supply store (alleged 17/32" x 5") has
got to do.

Will

One is candle size. I need to drill hard curly-maple for the base of the
candles. Nelson sez to use candles with .5" base: I can't find any locally.
But I've got some with 17/32" base.

I've seen devices that will taper down a candle to fit in a holder.
Also you could get a 9/16" spade bit and grind or file the sides down
to a slight taper (or even to cut a cylinder)for holes for the candle.

wrote:
One is candle size. I need to drill hard curly-maple for the base of
the candles. Nelson sez to use candles with .5" base: I can't find
any locally. But I've got some with 17/32" base.

I've seen devices that will taper down a candle to fit in a holder.
Also you could get a 9/16" spade bit and grind or file the sides down
to a slight taper (or even to cut a cylinder)for holes for the candle.

Now THAT'S thinking outside the box. Good idea.

We've gotten so far away from making our own tools that you were the first
to come up with the idea.

It should be easy enough to push a 17/32 wax candel into a 1/2 inch hole
in hard maple. It's only 1/32 inch difference.
--
When the game is over, the pawn and the king are returned to the same box.

Larry Wasserman - Baltimore Maryland - lwasserm(a)sdf. lonestar.org

In article ,
says...

It should be easy enough to push a 17/32 wax candel into a 1/2 inch hole
in hard maple. It's only 1/32 inch difference.

Depends on the wax though, remember that pure carnauba is harder than
concrete.

"Wilfred Xavier Pickles" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 27 Jan 2011 16:34:46 -0500, Ecnerwal
wrote:

Chuck it up in your lathe and cut the hole bigger.

No lathe - dowel (slit) and coarse sandpaper - grind the hole bigger
(cheat and use small sanding drums for dremel, etc if you happen to have
those in a size to suit.)

Or wiggle the 1/2" drill with greater effort. Or get in there with a
router bit (maintain control, and practice on scrap if you have never
tried that particular application of a router.) Roto-zip bits (no actual
roto-zip tool required) provide yet another possible approach to
side-cutting.

Or - modify the candles - they are wax, easy to cut/sand/heat and
mold/scrape them down to 1/2 inch if you like.

No lathe. Each holder takes 6 candles. I'll make about 6 holders.
All but 1 will be gifted. I don't want giftees to have to
whittle candles. The router bit thing is, for me, an invitation
to disaster.

Thx,
Will


Buy a spade bit a little bigger than you need. Grind it to the size and
tapper you need. Drill with regular care.
--
Jim in NC

Most commercial candles have a tapered base. If you have much of
this to do, buy an extra spade bit or get an old one and file
and/or grind the taper on the bit. Do some marking on the bit
before you start and take equal amounts of material from each
side. Once you get it right, it is always ready for candle work.

--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
DanG
Keep the whole world singing . . .


"Wilfred Xavier Pickles" wrote in
message ...

I've got a little John Nelson plan for a dinner-table-type
folding
candle-holder that's full of "Gotcha's".

One is candle size. I need to drill hard curly-maple for the
base of the
candles. Nelson sez to use candles with .5" base: I can't find
any locally.
But I've got some with 17/32" base.

I have no bits greater than .5". I don't *think* they make a
17/32" spade
bit. I tried wiggling the .5" bit to enlarge the hole a little.
It didn't
work.

Do I have to special-order a 17/32" drill bit? Is there another
way.

Apologies for the nickel/dime question.

Will

[...snip...]

No lathe. Each holder takes 6 candles. I'll make about 6 holders.
All but 1 will be gifted. I don't want giftees to have to
whittle candles. The router bit thing is, for me, an invitation
to disaster.

Thx,
Will

With a template and a bearing guided bit, it could be done accurately
and safely. On the template, drill a 1/2" hole and enlarge it with a
dowel wrapped with sandpaper, or whatever.

With the holder, drill the holes to 1/2" to remove almost all the
waste, place the template over the hole (with double stick tape, or
make a jig to fix the holder into place) and enlarge the hole with the
router.

On Thu, 27 Jan 2011 17:47:10 -0800, "CW"
wrote:


"Wilfred Xavier Pickles" wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 27 Jan 2011 17:19:07 -0500, Woody wrote:

I'd also suggest using a forstner bit rather than a spade bit to drill
the holes. You'll get a much cleaner hole, particularly in curly maple.

Per the other suggestions, a 1/2" bit should work and you can get a 1/2"
forstner at any retail hardware store.

It doesn't fit. I tried 1/2 and 5/8" forstner. 1/2 is very noticibly
too small, 5/8 is very noticibly too big.

Damn these odd-ball diameters!

Thx,
Will
The end of a candle is tapered. All commercial candle holders are tapered
for that reason. A strait hole, whether the candle fits it or not, will not
be secure.


In which case a spade bit ground to a taper to match the candle should
be the answer.