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Just wondering, what brands have you bought that you've been very happy with
and what brands are you sorry you bought???

My experience:

Hall of Fame: Bosch, Porter-Cable, Delta, Milwaukee

Hall of Shame: Ryobi, Powermatic, Craftsman


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George wrote:

Just wondering, what brands have you bought that you've been very happy with
and what brands are you sorry you bought???

My experience:

Hall of Fame: Bosch, Porter-Cable, Delta, Milwaukee

Hall of Shame: Ryobi, Powermatic, Craftsman

Fame: Craftsman, Porter-Cable, Harbor Freight, Makita, DeWalt,
PowerMatic, Delta, Panasonic
Shame: Craftsman, Porter-Cable, Harbor Freight
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Is so, is not, so, not.....
Not much info there

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Just wondering, what brands have you bought that you've been very happy

with
and what brands are you sorry you bought???

My experience:

Hall of Fame: Bosch, Porter-Cable, Delta, Milwaukee

Hall of Shame: Ryobi, Powermatic, Craftsman




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On Sat, 8 May 2004 21:40:57 -0400, "George"
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Just wondering, what brands have you bought that you've been very happy with
and what brands are you sorry you bought???


Fame: Shame:
Guerciotti Huffy
Taylor Fender
D'Addario Black Diamond
Krupps Mr. Coffee
Glenfiddich Cutty Sark
Toyota Chevrolet
Victorinox Schrade
Johnson-Murphy Timberland
Sony IBM
Polk Audio JBL
Land's End pre Sears Land's End post Sears
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On Sat, 8 May 2004 21:40:57 -0400, "George" wrote:

Just wondering, what brands have you bought that you've been very happy with
and what brands are you sorry you bought???

My experience:

Hall of Fame: Bosch, Porter-Cable, Delta, Milwaukee

Hall of Shame: Ryobi, Powermatic, Craftsman



I'm not sure you can break it down by brand-name. For example, I really
like my Porter Cable biscuit joiner, but am somewhat disappointed with my
14.4 v PC drill -- I was shaking plastic parts out of it only 2 years after
buying it.

I think each manufacturer has its strong products and weaker ones --
which brand is best probably is also a function of what you are buying
(i.e. tool type -- drill, joiner, saw, etc.) as well as brand.



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On Sat, 8 May 2004 21:40:57 -0400, "George"
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Just wondering, what brands have you bought that you've been very
happy with and what brands are you sorry you bought???


Fame: Shame:


Taylor Fender


McInturff: Fender

D'Addario Black Diamond


D'Addario: GHS

Krupps Mr. Coffee


Bunn: Mr. Coffee

Toyota Chevrolet


Anything: Chrysler

Polk Audio JBL


Hey - talk nicely about JBL!!!


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I'm not sure you can break it down by brand-name.


I totally agree. Every manufacturer has tools that belong in both the fame
and shame catagory.





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In my experience's I have found that

A) Chevy ----BAD
B) FORD ----NOT BAD but NOT GREAT
C) TOYOTA----GREAT!!!
D) Craftsman great but you must buy the high end stuff
E) Delta ----GREAT
F) B & D (scrollsaw) Pretty good
G)Buck Bros ehhh, SO SO
H)RIGID Home depot brand of CRAFTSMAN must buy high end

These are only my opinions, and Yes I have owned both Chevy and Ford, 3 of
each and I had more problems with the Chevy's , I have also purchase many
Craftsman items and have only had problems with the lower end models. All my
high end Craftsman has been very good to work with, I know that time is an
issue and I have only had my wood shop since Jan. I bought all my tools new
and will know better about Craftsman as time goes by.I do know that
Craftsman had a bad period in the 80's and I can only hope that my tools
will lasts as long as Craftsman of yesteryear!

Rich AKA Searcher1
"George" wrote in message
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Just wondering, what brands have you bought that you've been very happy

with
and what brands are you sorry you bought???

My experience:

Hall of Fame: Bosch, Porter-Cable, Delta, Milwaukee

Hall of Shame: Ryobi, Powermatic, Craftsman




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IMHO, FWIW, etc.

FAME:
Toyota Tacoma 4x2 (Timex on wheels. I gave up a BMW for my Tacoma, never
looked back).
Old Stanleys (all of mine are much older then me, still going strong).
Lee Valley Bevel-edge Chisels (incredible bargain at 39 bucks for set of
five).
Whiteside Router Bits (the best bits on the planet).
Freud Thin Kerf Blades (another bargain, especially when compared to pricey
alternatives).
Taunton Press (dedicated to excellence in woodworking publishing).
V-8 Juice (off topic, but still nectar of the gods).

SHAME:
New Record Planes (it's easier to raise a child then tune a new record
plane).
Scary Sharp (over-stated and over-rated).
Makita (essentially, low end tools with high prices).
Home Depot (low end products, low end advice).

Again, my opinions.

Regards,

Kevin B.


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I agree but my Porter Cable biscuit joiner is one of the worst things I ever
bought, it is an older one, forget the model.

For example, I really like my Porter Cable biscuit joiner,


I think each manufacturer has its strong products and weaker ones --





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In article , Michael
Baglio says...
Land's End pre Sears Land's End post Sears


How about Fame for Land's End back when they were just for
sailors? IMNSHO, they went downhill from there.

I've got a friend who claims all specialty stores eventually
wind up as clothing stores :-).

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"Walt Conner" wrote in message
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I agree but my Porter Cable biscuit joiner is one of the worst things I

ever
bought, it is an older one, forget the model.

For example, I really like my Porter Cable biscuit joiner,



The belt driven one? I have had the 556 IIRC since 1989 and the 557 is a
world better.


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On Sun, 9 May 2004 09:12:12 -0700, Larry Blanchard
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In article , Michael
Baglio says...
Land's End pre Sears Land's End post Sears


How about Fame for Land's End back when they were just for
sailors? IMNSHO, they went downhill from there.
I've got a friend who claims all specialty stores eventually
wind up as clothing stores :-).


Yep. I'm thinking the original Mssrs. Abercrombie and Fitch are
spinnin' in their graves like lathes. ;

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"George" wrote in message
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Just wondering, what brands have you bought that you've been very happy

with
and what brands are you sorry you bought???

My experience:

Hall of Fame: Bosch, Porter-Cable, Delta, Milwaukee

Hall of Shame: Ryobi, Powermatic, Craftsman


I buy only the best tools available because they hold up and cost less in
the long run. My shop is almost 100% Craftsman. If Bob Vila uses them, you
know they are professional quality.

Ralph Engerman
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I buy only the best tools available because they hold up and cost less in
the long run. My shop is almost 100% Craftsman. If Bob Vila uses them, you
know they are professional quality.

Ralph Engerman
R. E Quick Transit

Now I need to know what the best tool is to get a goopy mixture of
chips and salsa out of a keyboard

Allen

That being said I do have my grandfathers old craftman bandsaw and it
seems to doing fine.


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"Michael Baglio @nc.rr.com" mbaglioNOSPAM wrote in message
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On Sun, 9 May 2004 09:12:12 -0700, Larry Blanchard
wrote:

In article , Michael
Baglio says...
Land's End pre Sears Land's End post Sears


How about Fame for Land's End back when they were just for
sailors? IMNSHO, they went downhill from there.
I've got a friend who claims all specialty stores eventually
wind up as clothing stores :-).


Yep. I'm thinking the original Mssrs. Abercrombie and Fitch are
spinnin' in their graves like lathes. ;

M--

Amazing...that was EXACTLY what I was thinking when I read the posting you
replied to. A&F used to be THE premier sporting goods store in the US.
They have gone so far downhill since they once sold Holland & Holland
shotguns and Payne and Leonard flyrods. Now they just peddle third world
made and Asian made clothing... (like most crap-stores in the country
today)


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"Mark & Juanita" wrote in message
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On Sat, 8 May 2004 21:40:57 -0400, "George" wrote:

Just wondering, what brands have you bought that you've been very happy

with
and what brands are you sorry you bought???

My experience:

Hall of Fame: Bosch, Porter-Cable, Delta, Milwaukee

Hall of Shame: Ryobi, Powermatic, Craftsman



I'm not sure you can break it down by brand-name. For example, I really
like my Porter Cable biscuit joiner, but am somewhat disappointed with my
14.4 v PC drill -- I was shaking plastic parts out of it only 2 years

after
buying it.

I think each manufacturer has its strong products and weaker ones --
which brand is best probably is also a function of what you are buying
(i.e. tool type -- drill, joiner, saw, etc.) as well as brand.


There is certainly a lot of truth in what you said. Even my "Fame" category
includes brands that I have had an isolated problem with but felt they
deserved their listing because I have so many great tools from them. Even
Delta has a new "junk" line out. The brands I listed under "Shame" wound up
there either due to lack of adequate support from the
manufacturer/distributor or they were just very poorly made. I almost
listed model numbers but decided against it as I was hoping to find reliable
brands vs. being a specific buying guide (models change so quickly anyway).


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In my experience's I have found that

A) Chevy ----BAD
B) FORD ----NOT BAD but NOT GREAT
C) TOYOTA----GREAT!!!


I wasn't looking for brands of stuff other than tools, but if I included
other stuff the top of my list would include:

Toyota -- far and away the least troublesome and least expensive to maintain
brand of vehicle I've EVER bought. For appearance sake, I SHOULD replace my
Toyota pickup (pre-Tacoma) but it is very hard to part with the best vehicle
I've ever bought.

Honda -- the only possible competitor for my next vehicle. Never owned a
Honda car or motorcycle but it is listed here because I have two Honda
mowers, a Honda tiller, and a Honda snowblower and for 12 years they've all
started on the first attempt. Unbelievable!

Nikon -- I have more Nikon lenses than I can count, 5 film bodies going back
to 1973, a film scanner, and a digital body. None of them has EVER given me
any trouble. As good as Toyota is, Nikon would get my vote for top brand
that I've ever purchased.

At the other end of the spectrum, a brand that I'd never buy again is Mazda.
Bought one new and spent more than the purchase price in repairs. Totally
lost my business for good...quite a bit worse than the Chevys and Fords I've
owned.


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"R. E. Engerman" wrote in message
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"George" wrote in message
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Just wondering, what brands have you bought that you've been very happy

with
and what brands are you sorry you bought???

My experience:

Hall of Fame: Bosch, Porter-Cable, Delta, Milwaukee

Hall of Shame: Ryobi, Powermatic, Craftsman


I buy only the best tools available because they hold up and cost less in
the long run. My shop is almost 100% Craftsman. If Bob Vila uses them,

you
know they are professional quality.

Ralph Engerman
R. E Quick Transit


Great...wanna buy a Craftsman belt sander? Practically unused. I might
even be persuaded to part with my Craftsman router (though it is OK in a
table).


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On Sun, 09 May 2004 17:22:41 GMT, Michael Baglio
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Yep. I'm thinking the original Mssrs. Abercrombie and Fitch are
spinnin' in their graves like lathes. ;


Right alongside Eddie Bauer.

LL Bean is one of the few outdoor-specialty shops that seems to have
added a major clothing line while still maintaining the quality of its
outdoor gear. REI is another. Nobody else comes to mind.


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John Carlson wrote:

On Sun, 09 May 2004 17:22:41 GMT, Michael Baglio
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Yep. I'm thinking the original Mssrs. Abercrombie and Fitch are
spinnin' in their graves like lathes. ;


Right alongside Eddie Bauer.

LL Bean is one of the few outdoor-specialty shops that seems to have
added a major clothing line while still maintaining the quality of its
outdoor gear. REI is another. Nobody else comes to mind.


Cabella's.

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I agree but my Porter Cable biscuit joiner is one of the worst things I
ever bought,



For example, I really like my Porter Cable biscuit joiner,



The belt driven one? I have had the 556 IIRC since 1989 and the 557 is a
world better.



I went and looked, this is a model 555, belt driven. Problem is the blade is
mounted on an incredibly small shaft which flexes ( I guess) and breaks off.
Very poor engineering.

Walt Conner


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Honda -- the only possible competitor for my next vehicle. Never owned a

I have owned an Acura and it was a no nonsence vehicle. Totally dependable.
Honda or Acura will be my next vehicle.

Honda car or motorcycle but it is listed here because I have two Honda
mowers, a Honda tiller, and a Honda snowblower and for 12 years they've

all
started on the first attempt. Unbelievable!


I have a Honda mower that started its 18th season this year, starts on the
first pull after setting up all winter, and the oil still does not get very
dirty nor does any disappear.



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If Bob Vila uses them, you
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In article , Leon
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I have a Honda mower that started its 18th season this year


Couple of years back I was at a fishing camp at Selwyn Lake, on the
border of Saskatchewan and the Northwest Territories. All the outboard
motors were Honda, and the owner said he'd never found anything as
reliable.

They were also very quiet (as outboard motors go).

djb


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On Sun, 09 May 2004 17:40:57 GMT, "R. E. Engerman"
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I buy only the best tools available because they hold up and cost less in
the long run. My shop is almost 100% Craftsman. If Bob Vila uses them, you
know they are professional quality.


Whatever happened to the Unit Saw?

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On Sun, 09 May 2004 17:40:57 GMT, "R. E. Engerman"
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I buy only the best tools available because they hold up and cost less in
the long run. My shop is almost 100% Craftsman. If Bob Vila uses them, you
know they are professional quality.

Ralph Engerman
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that's nice.....
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I buy only the best tools available because they hold up and cost less in
the long run. My shop is almost 100% Craftsman. If Bob Vila uses them, you
know they are professional quality.

Ralph Engerman
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REE
Your supposed to put a smiley face behind a statement like that,
otherwise people might think your serious.

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George wrote:


"Searcher" wrote in message
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In my experience's I have found that

A) Chevy ----BAD
B) FORD ----NOT BAD but NOT GREAT
C) TOYOTA----GREAT!!!


I wasn't looking for brands of stuff other than tools, but if I included
other stuff the top of my list would include:

Toyota -- far and away the least troublesome and least expensive to
maintain
brand of vehicle I've EVER bought. For appearance sake, I SHOULD replace
my Toyota pickup (pre-Tacoma) but it is very hard to part with the best
vehicle I've ever bought.


I had one Toyota. There was only one item of maintenance it required--every
12,000 miles you replaced the engine to the tune of 5 thousand bucks. The
third time I finally trashed the piece of crap.

Honda -- the only possible competitor for my next vehicle. Never owned a
Honda car or motorcycle but it is listed here because I have two Honda
mowers, a Honda tiller, and a Honda snowblower and for 12 years they've
all
started on the first attempt. Unbelievable!


Honda's another one. I had a CB400T that died on me one day--dead starter,
and the genii at Honda had decided to remove the kick starter that year, so
it ended up permanently dead. Seat must have been designed by the same
clan that provided the imperial torturers in earlier days though--I figure
the designer lost somebody he cared about at Hiroshima and was getting
revenge through that seat design.

Nikon -- I have more Nikon lenses than I can count, 5 film bodies going
back
to 1973, a film scanner, and a digital body. None of them has EVER given
me
any trouble. As good as Toyota is, Nikon would get my vote for top brand
that I've ever purchased.


Old Nikons are decent equipment. Don't know about the newer ones.

At the other end of the spectrum, a brand that I'd never buy again is
Mazda.
Bought one new and spent more than the purchase price in repairs. Totally
lost my business for good...quite a bit worse than the Chevys and Fords
I've owned.


I've never had any significant trouble with a Ford or Chevy.

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"WW.newbie" wrote in message
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"R. E. Engerman" wrote in message

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I buy only the best tools available because they hold up and cost less

in
the long run. My shop is almost 100% Craftsman. If Bob Vila uses them,

you
know they are professional quality.

Ralph Engerman
R. E Quick Transit


REE -
Your supposed to put a smiley face behind a statement like that,
otherwise people might think your serious.

ww.newb


He has to have the sharpest wit on the wreck.....brings me to tears :-)


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George wrote:


I've never had any significant trouble with a Ford or Chevy.

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Define significant :-)


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Fame:
Elu, Milwaukee, PC sanders, Makita drills (they take a fall and keep
going), old Delta stuff, Lee Valley, Bostich,
Toyota

Shame:
DeWalt, Woodcraft-Rockville MD store,
Mercedes, Ford trucks w/manual transmissions

HD and Lowes make both lists - never rely on them for advice (not
w/out being able to judge the validity of that advice), but they've
been excellent at times also w/getting large orders together and
traipsing all over the store for stuff. A lot of cheap stuff,
particularly in HD, so you gotta know what you're buying, but customer
service may be on the upswing at both.

Renata

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Just wondering, what brands have you bought that you've been very happy with
and what brands are you sorry you bought???

My experience:

Hall of Fame: Bosch, Porter-Cable, Delta, Milwaukee

Hall of Shame: Ryobi, Powermatic, Craftsman


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On Mon, 10 May 2004 07:05:39 -0400, J. Clarke wrote:

I've never had any significant trouble with a Ford or Chevy.


Never had one of those 4.5L aluminum block engines that came in my wife's
'88 Caddy Seville? OK, not Chevy, but a GM product.

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"Luigi Zanasi" wrote in message
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On Sun, 09 May 2004 17:40:57 GMT, "R. E. Engerman"
scribbled:

I buy only the best tools available because they hold up and cost less in
the long run. My shop is almost 100% Craftsman. If Bob Vila uses them,

you
know they are professional quality.


Whatever happened to the Unit Saw?

Luigi



Works like a charm with the Craftsman direct drive motor. No sloppy belts
to deal with and it runs on 110 volts with plenty of power. The old Delta
motor was heavier than the Craftsman, but I figure it is heavier because it
has more volts in it. I don't need all them volts with the Craftsman
because they have a lot more power than other brands. That is what makes
them Professional Grade.

I did have to do some adjusting to get the blade and motor assembly lined up
just right. I must have been off a little when I drilled the holes through
the top. The first few boards I tried to cut kept flying up and hitting
the garage ceiling, but then I figured it out. A few hits with the hammer
helped, but I had to run a bigger drill through the bolt holes so I could
move the motor far enough. Cuts straight now. If it gets out of line and
starts throwing wood, I just smack the side of the motor with a hammer and
it gets back in line again.

The kitchen cabinets are almost done. I needed more particle board and had
a delay because Home Depot ran out, but they got some more in. It gets hard
to cut sometimes. My neighbor said I should get a Car Bide blade, but I
could not find that brand at either Sears or Home Depot. I even looked for
Car Bide Company but found no information on them.

Ralph Engerman
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Luigi Zanasi wrote in message . ..

On Sun, 09 May 2004 17:40:57 GMT, "R. E. Engerman"
scribbled:

I buy only the best tools available because they hold up and cost less in
the long run. My shop is almost 100% Craftsman. If Bob Vila uses them, you
know they are professional quality.


Whatever happened to the Unit Saw?


Hmmmm ... let's see ... if a radial arm saw is likely to cut off
your arm, then a "unit saw" would ...

Never mind.


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I buy only the best tools available because they hold up and cost
less in the long run. My shop is almost 100% Craftsman. If Bob
Vila uses them, you know they are professional quality.


Whatever happened to the Unit Saw?


Hmmmm ... let's see ... if a radial arm saw is likely to cut off
your arm, then a "unit saw" would ...


This is why I've never wanted to own a prick punch.
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On Tue, 11 May 2004 12:56:18 GMT, Scott Cramer
brought forth from the murky depths:

I buy only the best tools available because they hold up and cost
less in the long run. My shop is almost 100% Craftsman. If Bob
Vila uses them, you know they are professional quality.

Whatever happened to the Unit Saw?


Hmmmm ... let's see ... if a radial arm saw is likely to cut off
your arm, then a "unit saw" would ...


This is why I've never wanted to own a prick punch.


Some things just make ya think, don't they?

Fresh squeezed baby oil?

Girl Scout cookies?

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Some things just make ya think, don't they?

Fresh squeezed baby oil?

Girl Scout cookies?



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On Tue, 11 May 2004 12:56:18 GMT, Scott Cramer
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I buy only the best tools available because they hold up and cost
less in the long run. My shop is almost 100% Craftsman. If Bob
Vila uses them, you know they are professional quality.

Whatever happened to the Unit Saw?


Hmmmm ... let's see ... if a radial arm saw is likely to cut off
your arm, then a "unit saw" would ...


This is why I've never wanted to own a prick punch.




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