On Mon, 5 Apr 2010 22:06:03 -0700, the infamous "Lew Hodgett"
scrawled the following:

Such a deal from the RNC, home of Family_Values.

Call toll free:

1-800-Bondage
Or:
1-800-Sex-Games

Tell me again, Lew, what party "Blowjobs aren't sex" Bill Clinton
belonged to.

See http://www.google.com/search?q=democrat+moral+scandal for
21,800,000 hits. Repugs have only 14.2mil.

See http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/hypocrite for a portrait
of your high horse. tsk tsk tsk

--
In order that people may be happy in their work, these three things are
needed: They must be fit for it. They must not do too much of it. And
they must have a sense of success in it.
-- John Ruskin, Pre-Raphaelitism, 1850

On Apr 6, 9:38 am, Larry Jaques wrote:
On Mon, 5 Apr 2010 22:06:03 -0700, the infamous "Lew Hodgett"
scrawled the following:

Such a deal from the RNC, home of Family_Values.

Call toll free:

1-800-Bondage
Or:
1-800-Sex-Games

Tell me again, Lew, what party "Blowjobs aren't sex" Bill Clinton
belonged to.

Seehttp://www.google.com/search?q=democrat+moral+scandalfor
21,800,000 hits. Repugs have only 14.2mil.

Seehttp://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/hypocritefor a portrait
of your high horse. tsk tsk tsk

--
In order that people may be happy in their work, these three things are
needed: They must be fit for it. They must not do too much of it. And
they must have a sense of success in it.
-- John Ruskin, Pre-Raphaelitism, 1850

Hey Lew -

Larry Craig, etc..., etc...., ad nauseum.

All smoke the bone (or other anonymous same-sex coupling) in private
and publicly decry their own 'perversion.'

These are all people, with people's failings. However, Republicans
seem much more likely to turn theirs into platform planks.

D'ohBoy

D'ohBoy wrote:

Tell me again, Lew, what party "Blowjobs aren't sex" Bill Clinton
belonged to.


Hey Lew -

Larry Craig, etc..., etc...., ad nauseum.


Larry Craig did not engage in any sex act or anything that could be called a
sex act.

Care to fill in the "etc..., etc...." portion of your claim?

While there are exceptions, Republicans tend to stray using things above the
neck; Democrats tend to stray using things below the belt.

On Apr 6, 11:17*am, "HeyBub" wrote:

While there are exceptions, Republicans tend to stray using things above the
neck; Democrats tend to stray using things below the belt.


I tend to agree with you but it's like I have been telling my teenage
son, God blessed us men with two heads. The problem is that blood
only flows to one at a time and it is up to you to determine which one
gets the blood.

Actually, money, power, , drugs/alcohol, and sex is the downfall of a
lot of people. I don't think any political party nor race nor social
class is more or less prone to these vices--they are all equal
opportunity destroyers.

Whenever somebody paints an entire group of people based upon the
action of one individual, it tends to color the painter, too.

On Apr 6, 11:49*am, Tim Daneliuk wrote:
On 4/6/2010 10:17 AM, HeyBub wrote:





D'ohBoy wrote:

Tell me again, Lew, what party "Blowjobs aren't sex" Bill Clinton
belonged to.

Hey Lew -

Larry Craig, etc..., etc...., ad nauseum.

Larry Craig did not engage in any sex act or anything that could be called a
sex act.

Care to fill in the "etc..., etc...." portion of your claim?

While there are exceptions, Republicans tend to stray using things above the
neck; Democrats tend to stray using things below the belt.

Absolute power corrupts absolutely. The big difference between the R
and D politicians is that the Rs end up looking like hypocrites
because they lecture everyone on topics of moral rectitude while doing
the very same things themselves.

Ayup.


The D politicians don't have that
problem since, as a group, they have no concept of morality, right-,
wrong, or appropriate behavior. When they behave like pigs, like Republicans they're
merely being consistent with their worldview.


There, fixed it for you.

On Apr 6, 12:56*pm, Robatoy wrote:
The D politicians don't have that
problem since, as a group, they have no concept of morality, right-,
wrong, or appropriate behavior. When they behave like pigs, like Republicans they're
merely being consistent with their worldview.

There, fixed it for you.


Wow. Seriously: this is getting out of hand. Insults are flying
around this group from both sides and it makes everybody seem like
they are in the third grade. Somebody else asked the question: What
in the hell are we coming to? I know it was on a somewhat different
topic but the rhetoric is such that nobody is permitted to have a
different point of view. And it seems like neither side has the
decency to just stop the pot shots.

Who the hell cares if we all agree? Do we have to all agree? Isn't
it *stupid* to think that everybody will always agree? What a boring
life it would be to be! Sort of like people fighting about using
corded tools vs. only hand tools vs. something in-between.

Opinions are like noses: everybody has a different one.

This used to be an incredibly congenial group and now people are at
each other's throats over political idealogy. Can we just get back to
what this group is intended for? I know I contribute much more to
these OT things but thta is because I am still really wet behind the
ears as far as woodworking goes. I would like to read things here
that I can put to practical use whenver I try to hack some wood.

And I don't care if the suggesitons come from the right or the left or
the top or the bottom or out of nowhere.

On Apr 6, 1:47*pm, busbus wrote:
On Apr 6, 12:56*pm, Robatoy wrote:

The D politicians don't have that
problem since, as a group, they have no concept of morality, right-,
wrong, or appropriate behavior. When they behave like pigs, like Republicans they're
merely being consistent with their worldview.

There, fixed it for you.

Wow. *Seriously: this is getting out of hand. *Insults are flying
around this group from both sides and it makes everybody seem like
they are in the third grade. *Somebody else asked the question: What
in the hell are we coming to? *I know it was on a somewhat different
topic but the rhetoric is such that nobody is permitted to have a
different point of view. *And it seems like neither side has the
decency to just stop the pot shots.

Who the hell cares if we all agree? *Do we have to all agree? *Isn't
it *stupid* to think that everybody will always agree? *What a boring
life it would be to be! *Sort of like people fighting about using
corded tools vs. only hand tools vs. something in-between.

Opinions are like noses: everybody has a different one.

This used to be an incredibly congenial group and now people are at
each other's throats over political idealogy. *Can we just get back to
what this group is intended for? *I know I contribute much more to
these OT things but thta is because I am still really wet behind the
ears as far as woodworking goes. *I would like to read things here
that I can put to practical use whenver I try to hack some wood.

And I don't care if the suggesitons come from the right or the left or
the top or the bottom or out of nowhere.

The key lies in the recognition that 'sides' must exist to keep us
occupied lest we all wake up and revolt.

On Apr 6, 2:00*pm, Robatoy wrote:
The key lies in the recognition that 'sides' must exist to keep us
occupied lest we all wake up and revolt.


That's actually kinda funny.

On Apr 6, 3:35*pm, busbus wrote:
On Apr 6, 2:00*pm, Robatoy wrote:

The key lies in the recognition that 'sides' must exist to keep us
occupied lest we all wake up and revolt.

That's actually kinda funny.

'Democracies' run on the premise to keep us divided.
Read the Bankers Manifesto. It will give you some insight. Gun-totin'
jesus freaks versus the socialist *******s. Now, if religion is the
opiate of the masses, who is stoned all the time?

On 04/06/2010 12:47 PM, busbus wrote:
This used to be an incredibly congenial group and now people are at
each other's throats over political idealogy. Can we just get back to
what this group is intended for?

looks around to see if I'm in the right place

I don't know what group YOU'VE been following, but... "incredibly congenial"? Hell, in the
ten years I've wandered in and out of here there's never been a time when people *haven't*
been at each other's throats over political ideology. Has your newsreader only been showing
you every third post or something?

--
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On Apr 6, 11:49*am, Tim Daneliuk wrote:
On 4/6/2010 10:17 AM, HeyBub wrote:



D'ohBoy wrote:

Tell me again, Lew, what party "Blowjobs aren't sex" Bill Clinton
belonged to.

Hey Lew -

Larry Craig, etc..., etc...., ad nauseum.

Larry Craig did not engage in any sex act or anything that could be called a
sex act.

Care to fill in the "etc..., etc...." portion of your claim?

While there are exceptions, Republicans tend to stray using things above the
neck; Democrats tend to stray using things below the belt.

Absolute power corrupts absolutely. The big difference between the R
and D politicians is that the Rs end up looking like hypocrites
because they lecture everyone on topics of moral rectitude while doing
the very same things themselves. The D politicians don't have that
problem since, as a group, they have no concept of morality, right-,
wrong, or appropriate behavior. When they behave like pigs, they're
merely being consistent with their worldview.

Oh, Timmy. Thank you. I do love it when assholes like you describe my
moral failings and general world view.

On Wed, 7 Apr 2010 07:26:02 -0700 (PDT), Charlie Self
Oh, Timmy. Thank you. I do love it when assholes like you describe my
moral failings and general world view.

And considering that hypocrisy laden Timbo did not support either
major party in the last election, I'm willing to wager that as usual,
he specifically excludes himself from any of those failings or world
views.

On Apr 7, 10:55*am, Tim Daneliuk wrote:


*It's always nice to watch people who have
to resort to schoolyard cursing because they haven't got a rational
counterpoint.


You just keep on hiding under that illusion. Somebody calling you an
asshole by using that word does not make it untrue because that word
was used.
When I have a valid counterpoint, I will express any it ****ing way I
want. If you want to plug your ears and cover your eyes in a "you
can't seeee meeee" fashion, go for it. My selection of words doesn't
disqualify the truth therein. You are an asshole, Tim.

"Robatoy" wrote in message
...
On Apr 7, 10:55 am, Tim Daneliuk wrote:


It's always nice to watch people who have
to resort to schoolyard cursing because they haven't got a rational
counterpoint.


You just keep on hiding under that illusion. Somebody calling you an
**** by using that word does not make it untrue because that word
was used.
When I have a valid counterpoint, I will express any it *** way I
want. If you want to plug your ears and cover your eyes in a "you
can't seeee meeee" fashion, go for it. My selection of words doesn't
disqualify the truth therein. You are an **** , Tim.



Anyone besides me offended by the flagrant use of profanity?
Using it as an offensive weapon somehow makes it worse.
Of course, sensitve me, I'm offended by anyone trying to be hurtful...

On Apr 7, 1:27*pm, Tim Daneliuk wrote:

There you go again attacking the method of the messengers again.
"I don't like the message you brought me because I don't like the
colour of your horse."

Well that, and blaming "those bankers" ... and we know who THEY are,
don't we (wink)...

Who are you talking about, Tim? What are you insinuating? Having a
problem with straight talk? Must you bob and weave so much?

D'ohBoy wrote:
On Apr 6, 10:17 am, "HeyBub" wrote:
D'ohBoy wrote:

Tell me again, Lew, what party "Blowjobs aren't sex" Bill Clinton
belonged to.

Hey Lew -

Larry Craig, etc..., etc...., ad nauseum.

Larry Craig did not engage in any sex act or anything that could be
called a sex act.

Ummm... yep, he got busted before he got caught at what he had been
doing for years.

Care to fill in the "etc..., etc...." portion of your claim?

Sure, I could list a buncha Repugs like that one from FL, or any
number of Religious right duuders.
Smoking meth, then the bone....

Here are just a few of these scumbags:

* Republican aide Alan David Berlin was arrested on charges that
he wanted to engage in sex acts with a 15-year-old boy while dressed
in a panda costume.


[snip]


While there are exceptions, Republicans tend to stray using things
above the neck; Democrats tend to stray using things below the belt.

Exactly, read what I wrote: "All smoke the bone...."

Have fun with that list, kay?


Wow! Thanks.

I don't feel like such a loner anymore.

"Bill" wrote in message
...

"Robatoy" wrote in message
...
On Apr 7, 10:55 am, Tim Daneliuk wrote:


It's always nice to watch people who have
to resort to schoolyard cursing because they haven't got a rational
counterpoint.


You just keep on hiding under that illusion. Somebody calling you an
**** by using that word does not make it untrue because that word
was used.
When I have a valid counterpoint, I will express any it *** way I
want. If you want to plug your ears and cover your eyes in a "you
can't seeee meeee" fashion, go for it. My selection of words doesn't
disqualify the truth therein. You are an **** , Tim.



Anyone besides me offended by the flagrant use of profanity?
Using it as an offensive weapon somehow makes it worse.
Of course, sensitve me, I'm offended by anyone trying to be hurtful...


Please allow me to correct myself. I can tolerate a little profanity,
especially
if used humorously. But, I don't have much room in my life for mean-ness.
What's the point...

On Wed, 07 Apr 2010 09:55:21 -0500, Tim Daneliuk
And thanks for the invective. It's always nice to watch people who have
to resort to schoolyard cursing because they haven't got a rational
counterpoint.

No dummy, you don't understand. You really are an asshole and that
gives everybody who swears at you all the rationalization they need.

On Wed, 07 Apr 2010 10:09:01 -0500, Tim Daneliuk

Right. I don't support stealing, the people who do, or the politicians
that are their hired thugs. My failings are personal and do not generally
cause harm to my fellow citizens. I also do not expect everyone around
me to pick up the tab for my mistakes. This is called being a "grown up".

You're about as big a hypocrite as they come. All your criticisms and
comments about people on universal healthcare stealing from the system
and yet you've stated outright that when the opportunity presents
itself, you'll take support from that very same system.

You're not even man enough to back up to your own words. That makes
you a whining mouthpiece and nothing else. Fundamentally, you're a
thief like everybody else you criticize.

On Wed, 07 Apr 2010 10:09:01 -0500, Tim Daneliuk

Right. I don't support stealing, the people who do, or the politicians
that are their hired thugs. My failings are personal and do not generally
cause harm to my fellow citizens. I also do not expect everyone around
me to pick up the tab for my mistakes. This is called being a "grown up".

That's calling you a liar. You've stated publicly that you'll support
that stealing if it benefits you? You've stated publicly that you'll
try to take from the system. You call that grown up? You're not man
enough to live up to your very own words.

On Wed, 07 Apr 2010 16:19:44 -0500, Tim Daneliuk
logic. I, like you, intend to benefit from a system into which I
was *forced* to pay. I, unlike you, do not support such systems
and try to vote to get them dismantled.

If you benefit from it, then you're evil and a thief ~ You're original
words to me. And, if the time comes that you take more out of it than
you've put into it? Will you continue stealing?

The truth is and always has been that you're a whiner with nothing
else in your life to contribute. Certainly not woodworking. Whining is
all you know how to do and you can't even do it ethically. Guess
assholes like you are doomed to your self torment.

Oops! I swore at you again. Too bad eh?

On Apr 7, 5:19*pm, Tim Daneliuk wrote:

*I, like you, intend to benefit from a system into which I
was *forced* to pay.

The Debbil makes him do it folks...

On Wed, 07 Apr 2010 23:03:47 -0500, Tim Daneliuk
Uh oh ... prepare to be called a ... oh, you know ...

No one is going to call him any names. That's reserved for real
assholes like you. You see Tim****, you talk down to people and that
****es them off, especially when in reality you're really a whining
sanctimonious little **** without any sense of reality.

Bill wrote:

Anyone besides me offended by the flagrant use of profanity?
Using it as an offensive weapon somehow makes it worse.
Of course, sensitve me, I'm offended by anyone trying to be hurtful...

Get used to it. That's the way liberals express themselves.

It's not that they can't use civil discourse, it's that when they do what
they say sounds like a rational argument that can quickly be dismantled.
When they curse, hit people, throw eggs, or shout down those with whom they
disagree, they are obviously acting from emotion.

A "feeling" is always genuine and cannot be gainsaid. If you dispute their
utterance, you are obviously insane because their feelings are true and
unassailable.

On Thu, 8 Apr 2010 05:59:14 -0500, "HeyBub"
wrote:

Get used to it. That's the way liberals express themselves.

Ah Cheney must be a liberal eh?

Mark

Robatoy wrote:

*I* won't be calling busbus anything as there are several components
missing in his post: He's not sanctimonious, condescending nor is he
trying to baffle anybody with big words. Busbus states his position on
its merits and not by torching and belittling opposite views. IOW, he
has class.

Holy ****!!!

--
Jack
The Second Amendment is in place in case the politicians ignore the others.
http://jbstein.com

On Apr 8, 9:57*am, Jack Stein wrote:
Robatoy wrote:
*I* won't be calling busbus anything as there are several components
missing in his post: He's not sanctimonious, condescending nor is he
trying to baffle anybody with big words. Busbus states his position on
its merits and not by torching and belittling opposite views. IOW, he
has class.

Holy ****!!!


Jack is a liberal, forgive his cussing.

Robatoy wrote:
On Apr 7, 1:27 pm, Tim Daneliuk wrote:

Well that, and blaming "those bankers" ... and we know who THEY are,
don't we (wink)...

Who are you talking about, Tim? What are you insinuating? Having a
problem with straight talk? Must you bob and weave so much?

Well, since you've shown yourself to be homophobic and a sexist, it
shouldn't surprise many that you are also an Anti-Banker, wink, wink!


--
Jack
From Little A.C.O.R.N.S Mighty Marxist Grow!
http://jbstein.com

On Thu, 8 Apr 2010 06:59:33 -0700 (PDT), the infamous Robatoy
scrawled the following:

On Apr 8, 9:57*am, Jack Stein wrote:
Robatoy wrote:
*I* won't be calling busbus anything as there are several components
missing in his post: He's not sanctimonious, condescending nor is he
trying to baffle anybody with big words. Busbus states his position on
its merits and not by torching and belittling opposite views. IOW, he
has class.

Holy ****!!!


Jack is a liberal, forgive his cussing.

Calling Jack Stein a liberal is worse than cussing, Mr. Liberal.

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will flow into you as sunshine flows into trees. The winds will
blow their own freshness into you, and the storms their energy,
while cares will drop away from you like the leaves of Autumn.
-- John Muir

On Apr 8, 10:08*am, Jack Stein wrote:
Robatoy wrote:
On Apr 7, 1:27 pm, Tim Daneliuk wrote:
Well that, and blaming "those bankers" ... and we know who THEY are,
don't we (wink)...
*Who are you talking about, Tim? What are you insinuating? Having a
problem with straight talk? Must you bob and weave so much?

Well, since you've shown yourself to be homophobic and a sexist, it
shouldn't surprise many that you are also an Anti-Banker, wink, wink!

--
Jack
*From Little A.C.O.R.N.S Mighty Marxist Grow!http://jbstein.com

And you LIKE what bankers did/do with other people's money/mortgages?
..
..
Oh, and calling you a douche-nozzle doesn't make me homophobic, that
is more your area of expertise...LOL

Robatoy wrote:
On Apr 8, 10:08 am, Jack Stein wrote:
Robatoy wrote:
On Apr 7, 1:27 pm, Tim Daneliuk wrote:
Well that, and blaming "those bankers" ... and we know who THEY are,
don't we (wink)...
Who are you talking about, Tim? What are you insinuating? Having a
problem with straight talk? Must you bob and weave so much?
Well, since you've shown yourself to be homophobic and a sexist, it
shouldn't surprise many that you are also an Anti-Banker, wink, wink!

And you LIKE what bankers did/do with other people's money/mortgages?

It was the socialist government of Germany under Hitler that was ****ed
off at the bankers. I'm more ****ed off at the socialist government...

Oh, and calling you a douche-nozzle doesn't make me homophobic,

No, but when you said something I said sounded "gay" I'm pretty certain
you were not using the term "gay" in a complimentary fashion.

And most would consider calling a woman a "coont" a sexist thing to do.
Calling someone a Douche-nozzle is pretty much just worthless
vitriol, but whether it's homophobic, sexist or not would probably depend on
the source.

Your track record is not so good.

--
Jack
Mr. Geithner, May I Borrow Your TurboTax?
http://jbstein.com

On Thu, 08 Apr 2010 13:51:29 -0400, Jack Stein
wrote:
Calling someone a Douche-nozzle is pretty much just worthless
vitriol, but whether it's homophobic, sexist or not would probably depend on
the source.

Considering how often you mention homophobic, there's little question
that you're the one who has the problem with homosexuals. Must be a
problem for you when you get together with your buddy Tim. But then,
you're the quintessential redneck so there never was any question
where you stand.

Upscale wrote:
Must be a problem for you when you get together with your buddy Tim.

Your fascination with Tim is underwhelming.

--
Jack
The Problem with Socialism is you eventually run out of Other Peoples Money!
http://jbstein.com

On Apr 8, 1:51*pm, Jack Stein wrote:

It was the socialist government of Germany under Hitler that was ****ed
off at the bankers. *I'm more ****ed off at the socialist government...

I see. So when anybody dislikes the way the bankers harvest money that
makes them??? What??? A nazi? You get to wear a belt with a buckle
that reads "Gott mit uns?"

And most would consider calling a woman a "coont" a sexist thing to do.

I never called a woman a coont. I called Ann Coulter a coont.

Anyway, you bore me.

Robatoy wrote:
On Apr 8, 1:51 pm, Jack Stein wrote:

It was the socialist government of Germany under Hitler that was ****ed
off at the bankers. I'm more ****ed off at the socialist government...

I see.

Obviously not!

And most would consider calling a woman a "coont" a sexist thing to do.

I never called a woman a coont. I called Ann Coulter a coont.

I see.

Anyway, you bore me.

Right!

--
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Got Change: big government ===== BIG GOVERNMENT!
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