At least in the past, FLAME WARS were mainly woodworking related. But
for the most part, name calling and such was kept to a minimum, and
often valuable woodworking information was learned.

Politics, especially polarizing politics doesn't do much in the way of
producing any useful woodworking information and frankly, there are
other news groups dedicated to politics that seem, at least to me, to be
a better place for political exchanges - that go on and on and on and on
and . . .

So - a question.

Why all the plans for Arts & Craft / Greene & Greene / Stickley pieces
in magazines - and NONE on chinese furniture and joinery. There's a
long and
deep pool of joinery and design waiting to be tapped by an editor and I
for one
am awaiting some of that info with great anticipation.

What would you like to see woodworking magazines get into?

charlie b

On Fri, 26 Mar 2010 00:16:00 -0800, charlie b wrote:


So - a question.

Why all the plans for Arts & Craft / Greene & Greene / Stickley pieces
in magazines - and NONE on chinese furniture and joinery. There's a
long and
deep pool of joinery and design waiting to be tapped by an editor and I
for one
am awaiting some of that info with great anticipation.

What would you like to see woodworking magazines get into?

charlie b

Both the Chinese and the Japanese have some excellent craftsmen that are
doing excellent work with wood. I agree with you Charlie that magazines
in this country should be doing articles and showing us how they do it.
There is enough material there to keep up the articles some time, if not
years.

Paul T.

"charlie b" wrote in message
...
At least in the past, FLAME WARS were mainly woodworking related. But
for the most part, name calling and such was kept to a minimum, and
often valuable woodworking information was learned.

Politics, especially polarizing politics doesn't do much in the way of
producing any useful woodworking information and frankly, there are
other news groups dedicated to politics that seem, at least to me, to be
a better place for political exchanges - that go on and on and on and on
and . . .

So - a question.

Why all the plans for Arts & Craft / Greene & Greene / Stickley pieces
in magazines - and NONE on chinese furniture and joinery. There's a
long and
deep pool of joinery and design waiting to be tapped by an editor and I
for one
am awaiting some of that info with great anticipation.

What would you like to see woodworking magazines get into?

charlie b


Japanese carpentry. Though, if you've seen examples, 'carpentry' does not do
it justice.

More on Tansu would be nice.

And there is all manner of miniature work that does not seem to get
mainstream woodworking media coverage.

"charlie b" wrote in message
...
At least in the past, FLAME WARS were mainly woodworking related. But
for the most part, name calling and such was kept to a minimum, and
often valuable woodworking information was learned.

Politics, especially polarizing politics doesn't do much in the way of
producing any useful woodworking information and frankly, there are
other news groups dedicated to politics that seem, at least to me, to be
a better place for political exchanges - that go on and on and on and on
and . . .

So - a question.

Why all the plans for Arts & Craft / Greene & Greene / Stickley pieces
in magazines - and NONE on chinese furniture and joinery. There's a
long and
deep pool of joinery and design waiting to be tapped by an editor and I
for one
am awaiting some of that info with great anticipation.

What would you like to see woodworking magazines get into?

charlie b

regarding the chinese joinery... here's the simple way:
http://www.finewoodworking.com/Skill...F.aspx?id=2905

And the difficult way:
Demystifying a complex Chinese Joint by Randolph Demercado

It is in Fine WoodWorking issue Sept/Oct 1998 pages 108 to 112 and it is a
double-mitered, dovetail-keyed, mortise and tenon joint.



I have the issue, but can't seem to find the article on FWW online.



jc

charlie b wrote:

What would you like to see woodworking magazines get into?



The Health Care debate?

charlie b wrote:

.... snip

Why all the plans for Arts & Craft / Greene & Greene / Stickley pieces
in magazines - and NONE on chinese furniture and joinery. There's a
long and
deep pool of joinery and design waiting to be tapped by an editor and I
for one
am awaiting some of that info with great anticipation.

What would you like to see woodworking magazines get into?

charlie b

More on some of the older styles -- Federal, Chippendale, William & Mary,
Queene Ann, etc. Not just the big pieces, but some of the more mundane
things as well. FWW has done a pretty good job of occasionally touching on
those styles.


--

There is never a situation where having more rounds is a disadvantage

Rob Leatham

charlie b wrote:
At least in the past, FLAME WARS were mainly woodworking related. But
for the most part, name calling and such was kept to a minimum, and
often valuable woodworking information was learned.

Politics, especially polarizing politics doesn't do much in the way of
producing any useful woodworking information and frankly, there are
other news groups dedicated to politics that seem, at least to me, to
be a better place for political exchanges - that go on and on and on
and on and . . .

So - a question.

Why all the plans for Arts & Craft / Greene & Greene / Stickley pieces
in magazines - and NONE on chinese furniture and joinery. There's a
long and
deep pool of joinery and design waiting to be tapped by an editor and
I for one
am awaiting some of that info with great anticipation.

What would you like to see woodworking magazines get into?

charlie b

magazines only print what writers pitch and provide to them. you have to get
the writers involved or it won't happen.

On Mar 26, 1:16*am, charlie b wrote:
At least in the past, FLAME WARS were mainly woodworking related. *But
for the most part, name calling and such was kept to a minimum, and
often valuable woodworking information was learned.

Politics, especially polarizing politics doesn't do much in the way of
producing any useful woodworking information and frankly, there are
other news groups dedicated to politics that seem, at least to me, to be
a better place for political exchanges - that go on and on and on and on
and . . .

So - a question.

Why all the plans for Arts & Craft / Greene & Greene / Stickley pieces
in magazines - and NONE on chinese furniture and joinery. *There's a
long and
deep pool of joinery and design waiting to be tapped by an editor and I
for one
am awaiting some of that info with great anticipation.

What would you like to see woodworking magazines get into?

charlie b

Finishing, finishing and finishing, especially coloring. I spend weeks
trying to dial in a color. How can I make a nice warm reddish brown
maple finish? How can I age pine such that it looks natural, etc.

charlie b wrote:

What would you like to see woodworking magazines get into?

charlie b

Well, as long as you are asking like that: Luthery (instrument making).

I could submit a photo-essay detailing the washtub-bass I built for my
wife (so don't rule it out by saying the topic is too difficult...lol)!

Of course, the likes of Gibson, Martin, Taylor, et. al. may be
vehemently opposed to my idea. I suspect they have successfully
brain-washed most people into believing that only they are capable of
making musical instruments.

Bill

"SonomaProducts.com" wrote in message
...
On Mar 26, 1:16 am, charlie b wrote:
At least in the past, FLAME WARS were mainly woodworking related. But
for the most part, name calling and such was kept to a minimum, and
often valuable woodworking information was learned.

Politics, especially polarizing politics doesn't do much in the way of
producing any useful woodworking information and frankly, there are
other news groups dedicated to politics that seem, at least to me, to be
a better place for political exchanges - that go on and on and on and on
and . . .

So - a question.

Why all the plans for Arts & Craft / Greene & Greene / Stickley pieces
in magazines - and NONE on chinese furniture and joinery. There's a
long and
deep pool of joinery and design waiting to be tapped by an editor and I
for one
am awaiting some of that info with great anticipation.

What would you like to see woodworking magazines get into?

charlie b

Finishing, finishing and finishing, especially coloring. I spend weeks
trying to dial in a color. How can I make a nice warm reddish brown
maple finish? How can I age pine such that it looks natural, etc.

You may have hit on an entirely new magazine idea. Finishing, it often
seems is half (or more) of the work on a piece, so why not have a separate
mag for it. It would be a very specialized magazine, but there are more
specialized ones out there in other fields that seem to do well. Taunton?
How about it?

jc

On Fri, 26 Mar 2010 00:16:00 -0800, charlie b wrote:

Why all the plans for Arts & Craft / Greene & Greene / Stickley pieces
in magazines - and NONE on chinese furniture and joinery. There's a
long and deep pool of joinery and design waiting to be tapped by an
editor and I for one am awaiting some of that info with great
anticipation.

I have a several books on joinery, and a few have a little bit on Chinese
joinery. I look at them and think I'm not that good and may well never
be. I suspect that's why you don't see much in the magazines. With few
exceptions, they cater to beginning and intermediate woodworkers, whose
reaction to those joints would probably be worse than mine.

But I did like the suggestion about more on finishing. Especially more
on dyes because they're so much more versatile than stains. More on
shellac, which is a lot tougher finish than most people think. More on
toning to avoid blotching.

I'm glad you brought the subject up. And I vow to respond no more to OT
political posts. At least for a few months :-).

--
Intelligence is an experiment that failed - G. B. Shaw

On Fri, 26 Mar 2010 00:16:00 -0800, the infamous charlie b
scrawled the following:

At least in the past, FLAME WARS were mainly woodworking related. But
for the most part, name calling and such was kept to a minimum, and
often valuable woodworking information was learned.

Politics, especially polarizing politics doesn't do much in the way of
producing any useful woodworking information and frankly, there are
other news groups dedicated to politics that seem, at least to me, to be
a better place for political exchanges - that go on and on and on and on
and . . .

And the chances of those topics moving to the other realms are, what?
Zip, right.


So - a question.

Why all the plans for Arts & Craft / Greene & Greene / Stickley pieces
in magazines - and NONE on chinese furniture and joinery. There's a
long and
deep pool of joinery and design waiting to be tapped by an editor and I
for one
am awaiting some of that info with great anticipation.

I, for one, do not plan on spending 4 years learning and perfecting
Japanese and/or Chinese joinery _just_ so I can make a temple,
Charlie.



What would you like to see woodworking magazines get into?

Just received the 2nd issue of a 2-year scrip to PopWood for $18 and
I'm enjoying the articles on design. Mo dat, preese. And less
"modern" furniture. And fewer articles on "distressing" furniture.
Oh, gimme more toolmaking, too!

--
Challenges are gifts that force us to search for a new center of gravity.
Don't fight them. Just find a different way to stand.
-- Oprah Winfrey

On Fri, 26 Mar 2010 07:42:51 -0700, the infamous Mark & Juanita
scrawled the following:

charlie b wrote:

... snip

Why all the plans for Arts & Craft / Greene & Greene / Stickley pieces
in magazines - and NONE on chinese furniture and joinery. There's a
long and
deep pool of joinery and design waiting to be tapped by an editor and I
for one
am awaiting some of that info with great anticipation.

What would you like to see woodworking magazines get into?

charlie b

More on some of the older styles -- Federal, Chippendale, William & Mary,
Queene Ann, etc. Not just the big pieces, but some of the more mundane
things as well. FWW has done a pretty good job of occasionally touching on
those styles.

To each their own. That was one reason I didn't renew FWW. Price was
the biggie, though. $35 for half a dozen issues? Ouch.

--
"Not always right, but never uncertain." --Heinlein
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On Fri, 26 Mar 2010 08:16:13 -0700 (PDT), the infamous
"SonomaProducts.com" scrawled the following:

On Mar 26, 1:16*am, charlie b wrote:
At least in the past, FLAME WARS were mainly woodworking related. *But
for the most part, name calling and such was kept to a minimum, and
often valuable woodworking information was learned.

Politics, especially polarizing politics doesn't do much in the way of
producing any useful woodworking information and frankly, there are
other news groups dedicated to politics that seem, at least to me, to be
a better place for political exchanges - that go on and on and on and on
and . . .

So - a question.

Why all the plans for Arts & Craft / Greene & Greene / Stickley pieces
in magazines - and NONE on chinese furniture and joinery. *There's a
long and
deep pool of joinery and design waiting to be tapped by an editor and I
for one
am awaiting some of that info with great anticipation.

What would you like to see woodworking magazines get into?

charlie b

Finishing, finishing and finishing, especially coloring. I spend weeks
trying to dial in a color. How can I make a nice warm reddish brown
maple finish?

Just traipse down to Homey's Despot and pick up a pint of MinWhacked
RBS, Sonomy. (Proof of what bears do in the woods.)


How can I age pine such that it looks natural, etc.

Pre- or post-distressed? (Ayieeeeeeeeeeeeee!)


--
"Not always right, but never uncertain." --Heinlein
-=-=-

"charlie b" wrote in message
...
At least in the past, FLAME WARS were mainly woodworking related. But
for the most part, name calling and such was kept to a minimum, and
often valuable woodworking information was learned.

Politics, especially polarizing politics doesn't do much in the way of
producing any useful woodworking information and frankly, there are
other news groups dedicated to politics that seem, at least to me, to be
a better place for political exchanges - that go on and on and on and on
and . . .

So - a question.

Why all the plans for Arts & Craft / Greene & Greene / Stickley pieces
in magazines - and NONE on chinese furniture and joinery. There's a
long and
deep pool of joinery and design waiting to be tapped by an editor and I
for one
am awaiting some of that info with great anticipation.

What would you like to see woodworking magazines get into?

charlie b


Here's a couple of magazines I wish were still published:

'Scale Woodcraft' last issues I have are from 1985. Issue to hand has
articles on forming architectural model moldings and how to photograph your
work.

'Maritime Life and Traditions' I think this disappeared around 2000. Issue
at hand contains articles on building a full sized replica of a three-masted
barque built in Quebec in 1845 and an article on constructing model boats.

"charlie b" wrote in message
...

What would you like to see woodworking magazines get into?

charlie b


How many others would like to see luthery in a magazine? I'm already on
"Stewart MacDonald's" email list, but I think he's preaching to "techs", not
woodworkers. A mountain dulcimer project may seem interesting to many
readers and doesn't seem like it would be too difficult. I may make one as
a gift for my wife.

Bill

"Bill" wrote in message
...

"charlie b" wrote in message
...

What would you like to see woodworking magazines get into?

charlie b


How many others would like to see luthery in a magazine?

Almost anything would be more interesting than the latest incarnation of the
"perfect bench", "perfect router table", "best table saw jigs", barrister
bookcase, shaker hutch ... well, you get my drift. The magazines all seem to
be on a four year cycle except for the annual router table issue.

I'm already on "Stewart MacDonald's" email list, but I think he's
preaching to "techs", not woodworkers. A mountain dulcimer project may
seem interesting to many readers and doesn't seem like it would be too
difficult. I may make one as a gift for my wife.

Bill

On Sun, 28 Mar 2010 02:39:23 -0400, the infamous "Bill"
scrawled the following:


"charlie b" wrote in message
...

What would you like to see woodworking magazines get into?

charlie b


How many others would like to see luthery in a magazine? I'm already on
"Stewart MacDonald's" email list, but I think he's preaching to "techs", not
woodworkers. A mountain dulcimer project may seem interesting to many
readers and doesn't seem like it would be too difficult. I may make one as
a gift for my wife.

Yeah, that might be cool. How about a standup bass? No? Violin,
then, please.

--
"Not always right, but never uncertain." --Heinlein
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"Larry Jaques" wrote in message
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On Sun, 28 Mar 2010 02:39:23 -0400, the infamous "Bill"
scrawled the following:


"charlie b" wrote in message
...

What would you like to see woodworking magazines get into?

charlie b


How many others would like to see luthery in a magazine? I'm already on
"Stewart MacDonald's" email list, but I think he's preaching to "techs",
not
woodworkers. A mountain dulcimer project may seem interesting to many
readers and doesn't seem like it would be too difficult. I may make one
as
a gift for my wife.

Yeah, that might be cool. How about a standup bass? No? Violin,
then, please.

I am interested in fiddle too..but I don't think it shouldn't be the first
instrument to build (I don't think it should be the first instrument one
learns to play either,
at least not with the DIY approach). Plus, talk about spending more money on
tools...
Whatever intrument was pursued, it may make for good reading--maybe
interesting
listening too!

Bill




--
"Not always right, but never uncertain." --Heinlein
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