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I ordered mine!
More good news about the Kerfmaker from BridgeCity tools.
Most new products prices include shipping, so if you buy one for $72 that is all you pay. I preordered, 1/2 down now and the rest when the tool ships in 2-3 weeks. I posted a drawing on a.b.p.w of one that you could build your self, I was strongly considering doing this, actually strongly considering making 3 or 4. Mine as is will allow a joint of 2.125" wide. The BridgeCity Tool Kerfmaker will allow for a joint up to 2" wide according to Natasha at BCT. |
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On Nov 4, 7:21*pm, "Leon" wrote:
More good news about the Kerfmaker from BridgeCity tools. Most new products prices include shipping, so if you buy one for $72 that is all you pay. *I preordered, 1/2 down now and the rest when the tool ships in 2-3 weeks. I posted a drawing on a.b.p.w of one that you could build your self, I was strongly considering doing this, actually strongly considering making 3 or 4. * Mine as is will *allow a joint of 2.125" wide. * The BridgeCity Tool Kerfmaker will allow for a joint up to 2" wide according to Natasha at BCT. Hi, I received mine last Monday. I ordered it back in July... Expect some delays as mine came one and a half month later than expected... But the wait was well worth it. It is surprisingly small but such a clever design. I can't wait to test it out. BB |
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"Leon" wrote in message ... More good news about the Kerfmaker from BridgeCity tools. Most new products prices include shipping, so if you buy one for $72 that is all you pay. I preordered, 1/2 down now and the rest when the tool ships in 2-3 weeks. I posted a drawing on a.b.p.w of one that you could build your self, I was strongly considering doing this, actually strongly considering making 3 or 4. Mine as is will allow a joint of 2.125" wide. The BridgeCity Tool Kerfmaker will allow for a joint up to 2" wide according to Natasha at BCT. What's a.b.p.w and where can I see that drawing? |
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Leon wrote:
More good news about the Kerfmaker from BridgeCity tools. Most new products prices include shipping, so if you buy one for $72 that is all you pay. I preordered, 1/2 down now and the rest when the tool ships in 2-3 weeks. I did the same right after watching the video. I've wanted one of those for a long time - I just didn't know what it looked like. :-/ I posted a drawing on a.b.p.w of one that you could build your self, I was strongly considering doing this, actually strongly considering making 3 or 4. Mine as is will allow a joint of 2.125" wide. The BridgeCity Tool Kerfmaker will allow for a joint up to 2" wide according to Natasha at BCT. With your drawings to guide me, I'm thinking I'd like to build a big one in Spring for joints up to 7-1/2" wide... -- Morris Dovey DeSoto Solar DeSoto, Iowa USA http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/ |
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"Morris Dovey" wrote With your drawings to guide me, I'm thinking I'd like to build a big one in Spring for joints up to 7-1/2" wide... -- Will it talk to the CNC router? |
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"B B" wrote in message ... On Nov 4, 7:21 pm, "Leon" wrote: Hi, I received mine last Monday. I ordered it back in July... Expect some delays as mine came one and a half month later than expected... But the wait was well worth it. It is surprisingly small but such a clever design. I can't wait to test it out. BB The web site indicated December. The girl said 2-3 weeks. |
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"Morris Dovey" wrote in message ... Leon wrote: More good news about the Kerfmaker from BridgeCity tools. Most new products prices include shipping, so if you buy one for $72 that is all you pay. I preordered, 1/2 down now and the rest when the tool ships in 2-3 weeks. I did the same right after watching the video. I've wanted one of those for a long time - I just didn't know what it looked like. :-/ I posted a drawing on a.b.p.w of one that you could build your self, I was strongly considering doing this, actually strongly considering making 3 or 4. Mine as is will allow a joint of 2.125" wide. The BridgeCity Tool Kerfmaker will allow for a joint up to 2" wide according to Natasha at BCT. With your drawings to guide me, I'm thinking I'd like to build a big one in Spring for joints up to 7-1/2" wide... You know Morris when I realized that it would only handle 2" I wondered if It would be satisfying. hummmm Uh meee er uh.... I had the same thought. If I need bigger I'll build a bigger one. The BCT jig is elegant and compact, I thought with smaller needs that it may be a better choice for the smaller applications. Because of the intricacy in my drawings and the small parts I think it would be easier to mill longer pieces and cut up several. |
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"Lee Michaels" wrote in message ... "Morris Dovey" wrote With your drawings to guide me, I'm thinking I'd like to build a big one in Spring for joints up to 7-1/2" wide... -- Will it talk to the CNC router? I do believe there is an "app" for that. ;~) |
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Lee Michaels wrote:
"Morris Dovey" wrote With your drawings to guide me, I'm thinking I'd like to build a big one in Spring for joints up to 7-1/2" wide... Will it talk to the CNC router? Probably not. This little gizmo allows the 'Bot to discover everything it needs to about the workpiece and the cutting tool all by itself... http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/SuperZero/ ....but it doesn't work for the table saw or RAS, which is where I expect the jig from Bridge City to shine. I do enough one-off shop projects with 2x stock that I think the larger size might also be useful. -- Morris Dovey DeSoto Solar DeSoto, Iowa USA http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/ |
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"Dave Balderstone" wrote in message news:041120091950562710%dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderst one.ca... In article , SBH wrote: What's a.b.p.w and where can I see that drawing? alt.binaries.pictures.woodworking Thank you |
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"Leon" wrote in message ... More good news about the Kerfmaker from BridgeCity tools. Most new products prices include shipping, so if you buy one for $72 that is all you pay. I preordered, 1/2 down now and the rest when the tool ships in 2-3 weeks. I posted a drawing on a.b.p.w of one that you could build your self, I was strongly considering doing this, actually strongly considering making 3 or 4. Mine as is will allow a joint of 2.125" wide. The BridgeCity Tool Kerfmaker will allow for a joint up to 2" wide according to Natasha at BCT. I agree it's clever and useful but IMHO about double the price that it should be. I venture a guess that Rockler will have a knockoff around $30 - $40 down the road. |
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On Wed, 04 Nov 2009 20:52:26 -0600, the infamous Morris Dovey
scrawled the following: Leon wrote: More good news about the Kerfmaker from BridgeCity tools. Most new products prices include shipping, so if you buy one for $72 that is all you pay. I preordered, 1/2 down now and the rest when the tool ships in 2-3 weeks. I did the same right after watching the video. I've wanted one of those for a long time - I just didn't know what it looked like. :-/ I posted a drawing on a.b.p.w of one that you could build your self, I was strongly considering doing this, actually strongly considering making 3 or 4. Mine as is will allow a joint of 2.125" wide. The BridgeCity Tool Kerfmaker will allow for a joint up to 2" wide according to Natasha at BCT. With your drawings to guide me, I'm thinking I'd like to build a big one in Spring for joints up to 7-1/2" wide... Erm, what kind of MEGAdado blade is that wide, Morris? -- "To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical." -- Thomas Jefferson |
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Vic Baron wrote:
I agree it's clever and useful but IMHO about double the price that it should be. I venture a guess that Rockler will have a knockoff around $30 - $40 down the road. Probably true, and shortly thereafter we may see a Chinese knockoff going for $9.95. I thought about that before I ordered - and decided that I liked the quality of thought behind the gizmo well enough to reward the inventor for producing what appears to be a good solution to one of my problems. I suspect everyone's mileage varies on this, but I haven't seen much inventive problem solving coming out of Rockler's shop or, for that matter, from Guangzhou or Shanghai - and I've seen less and less of it in the US (and I'm sure there must be a reason). -- Morris Dovey DeSoto Solar DeSoto, Iowa USA http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/ |
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Larry Jaques wrote:
Erm, what kind of MEGAdado blade is that wide, Morris? It's an ordinary blade making however many passes it takes. -- Morris Dovey DeSoto Solar DeSoto, Iowa USA http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/ |
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Morris Dovey wrote:
I suspect everyone's mileage varies on this, but I haven't seen much inventive problem solving coming out of Rockler's shop or, for that matter, from Guangzhou or Shanghai - and I've seen less and less of it in the US (and I'm sure there must be a reason). If nothing else, Rockler's (prices for their) gadgets often inspires me to build, myself, what they are trying to sell me. Even when their jigs and such and on sale, they are too expensive for what the are and for how easy they are to build. I do love when they have a ridonculous sale on knobs and t-bolts. -- -MIKE- "Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life" --Elvin Jones (1927-2004) -- http://mikedrums.com ---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply |
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Thanks for the drawing.
I hate a.b.p.w... its a personal problem. I use Google reader and so I have to search for the usnet replayer to find the pictures. It's just a hassle, why can't there be a link? So... if you don't mind, I copied the pdf to a linked location here http://www.sonomaproducts.com/graphi...7391864.40.pdf On Nov 4, 4:21*pm, "Leon" wrote: More good news about the Kerfmaker from BridgeCity tools. Most new products prices include shipping, so if you buy one for $72 that is all you pay. *I preordered, 1/2 down now and the rest when the tool ships in 2-3 weeks. I posted a drawing on a.b.p.w of one that you could build your self, I was strongly considering doing this, actually strongly considering making 3 or 4. * Mine as is will *allow a joint of 2.125" wide. * The BridgeCity Tool Kerfmaker will allow for a joint up to 2" wide according to Natasha at BCT. |
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"Morris Dovey" wrote in message ... Vic Baron wrote: I agree it's clever and useful but IMHO about double the price that it should be. I venture a guess that Rockler will have a knockoff around $30 - $40 down the road. Probably true, and shortly thereafter we may see a Chinese knockoff going for $9.95. I thought about that before I ordered - and decided that I liked the quality of thought behind the gizmo well enough to reward the inventor for producing what appears to be a good solution to one of my problems. I suspect everyone's mileage varies on this, but I haven't seen much inventive problem solving coming out of Rockler's shop or, for that matter, from Guangzhou or Shanghai - and I've seen less and less of it in the US (and I'm sure there must be a reason). I completely agree. And I understand about rewarding the inventor. I just laid out almost $200 for a product called MortisePal, even though I have several home made shop mortise jigs. Just thought this one was fast, simple and almost fool proof and so far it has been a breeze to do loose tenon and dowel joints with the router. |
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"Morris Dovey" wrote in message ... Larry Jaques wrote: Erm, what kind of MEGAdado blade is that wide, Morris? It's an ordinary blade making however many passes it takes. If you put a stacked dado in there to start with it should require far fewer passes. |
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"SonomaProducts.com" wrote in message ... Thanks for the drawing. You are welcome! I hate a.b.p.w... its a personal problem. I use Google reader and so I have to search for the usnet replayer to find the pictures. It's just a hassle, why can't there be a link? I understand, I now use a 3rd party to see what's there myself. I may one day have my own site but it is not on the front burner. So... if you don't mind, I copied the pdf to a linked location here http://www.sonomaproducts.com/graphi...7391864.40.pdf Cool |
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On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 11:33:28 -0600, the infamous Morris Dovey
scrawled the following: Larry Jaques wrote: Erm, what kind of MEGAdado blade is that wide, Morris? It's an ordinary blade making however many passes it takes. Holy ****, Batman! You're going to notch out 7.5 INCHES at a bit under 1/8 inch at a time? You either have autistic or Downs genes in your line, boy. Nobody normal has patience by that sized truckload. 'Course, normal isn't the norm here on the Wreck, is it? Why you no use CNC, kemosabe? Maybe stack 6-up on the crosscut sled with two stops, then CNC 'em out (if you get tearout with your bit.) -- "To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical." -- Thomas Jefferson |
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Larry Jaques wrote:
Holy ****, Batman! You're going to notch out 7.5 INCHES at a bit under 1/8 inch at a time? You either have autistic or Downs genes in your line, boy. Nobody normal has patience by that sized truckload. 'Course, normal isn't the norm here on the Wreck, is it? whisper mode=on I'm actually more likely to use my ancient Sears wobble dado and cut 3/4" at a time, and it's still possible that I've escaped the bounds of normality - I'm the only software guy I know of who has taken more than nine years to get a single program running. Twice. whisper mode=off Why you no use CNC, kemosabe? Maybe stack 6-up on the crosscut sled with two stops, then CNC 'em out (if you get tearout with your bit.) While I really like the CNC router for precise, intricate production work, using it for a one-off project usually means writing a part program, tearing down the fixturing, setting up for this job, debugging the part program, running my one-off parts, tearing that down, and reinstalling the original fixturing. Sometimes it's just easier, more fun, and more satisfying to fire up the old Unisaur. -- Morris Dovey DeSoto Solar DeSoto, Iowa USA http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/ |
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"Morris Dovey" wrote in message ... Larry Jaques wrote: Holy ****, Batman! You're going to notch out 7.5 INCHES at a bit under 1/8 inch at a time? You either have autistic or Downs genes in your line, boy. Nobody normal has patience by that sized truckload. 'Course, normal isn't the norm here on the Wreck, is it? whisper mode=on I'm actually more likely to use my ancient Sears wobble dado and cut 3/4" at a time, and it's still possible that I've escaped the bounds of normality - I'm the only software guy I know of who has taken more than nine years to get a single program running. Twice. whisper mode=off The kerfmaker jig has a 1/2" kerf limitation. ;~( Yeah I know put the wobbler on after establishing the outside cuts but that involves adjusting for proper height again. But if you build a bigger'n ........ Why you no use CNC, kemosabe? Maybe stack 6-up on the crosscut sled with two stops, then CNC 'em out (if you get tearout with your bit.) While I really like the CNC router for precise, intricate production work, using it for a one-off project usually means writing a part program, tearing down the fixturing, setting up for this job, debugging the part program, running my one-off parts, tearing that down, and reinstalling the original fixturing. Sometimes it's just easier, more fun, and more satisfying to fire up the old Unisaur. Yeah! nothing like using your hands a bit more. LOL. CNC is to a TS as a TS is to Hand Saw. |
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Leon wrote:
"Morris Dovey" wrote in message ... Larry Jaques wrote: Erm, what kind of MEGAdado blade is that wide, Morris? It's an ordinary blade making however many passes it takes. If you put a stacked dado in there to start with it should require far fewer passes. How about making the first and last cuts to establish the 7-1/2" joint width, take out 95% of the remaining waste with a single cut on the bandsaw (or jigsaw, depending on the board), then use a dozen or so passes with the stacked dado to nibble away the rest? -- Free bad advice available here. To reply, eat the taco. http://www.flickr.com/photos/bbqboyee/ |
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On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 16:23:44 -0600, the infamous Morris Dovey
scrawled the following: Larry Jaques wrote: Holy ****, Batman! You're going to notch out 7.5 INCHES at a bit under 1/8 inch at a time? You either have autistic or Downs genes in your line, boy. Nobody normal has patience by that sized truckload. 'Course, normal isn't the norm here on the Wreck, is it? whisper mode=on I'm actually more likely to use my ancient Sears wobble dado and cut 3/4" at a time, and it's still possible that I've escaped the bounds of normality - I'm the only software guy I know of who has taken more than nine years to get a single program running. Twice. whisper mode=off Ouchouchouchouchouch. Why you no use CNC, kemosabe? Maybe stack 6-up on the crosscut sled with two stops, then CNC 'em out (if you get tearout with your bit.) While I really like the CNC router for precise, intricate production work, using it for a one-off project usually means writing a part program, tearing down the fixturing, setting up for this job, debugging the part program, running my one-off parts, tearing that down, and reinstalling the original fixturing. Sometimes it's just easier, more fun, and more satisfying to fire up the old Unisaur. Grok that. -- "To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical." -- Thomas Jefferson |
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On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 22:08:48 -0600, the infamous Steve Turner
scrawled the following: Leon wrote: "Morris Dovey" wrote in message ... Larry Jaques wrote: Erm, what kind of MEGAdado blade is that wide, Morris? It's an ordinary blade making however many passes it takes. If you put a stacked dado in there to start with it should require far fewer passes. How about making the first and last cuts to establish the 7-1/2" joint width, take out 95% of the remaining waste with a single cut on the bandsaw (or jigsaw, depending on the board), then use a dozen or so passes with the stacked dado to nibble away the rest? Yeah, endcuts with the TS, then get out my Makita angle grinder with the Lancelot head on it. We be nibblin' _then_! Arr arr arr! -- "To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical." -- Thomas Jefferson |
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"Steve Turner" wrote in message ... Leon wrote: "Morris Dovey" wrote in message ... Larry Jaques wrote: Erm, what kind of MEGAdado blade is that wide, Morris? It's an ordinary blade making however many passes it takes. If you put a stacked dado in there to start with it should require far fewer passes. How about making the first and last cuts to establish the 7-1/2" joint width, take out 95% of the remaining waste with a single cut on the bandsaw (or jigsaw, depending on the board), then use a dozen or so passes with the stacked dado to nibble away the rest? Why not take it all out with the dado rather than make it a 3 step operation? |
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Larry Jaques wrote:
Ouchouchouchouchouch. No ouches. In retrospect, both efforts seem worthwhile - and both programs nibbled at the edges of how something might be "known". The first program dealt with knowledge and context in a "static" sense, and the second dealt with some of the "dynamics" of knowing. I had planned to write a third program to explore the interrelatedness of knowledge, but ran out of time (I guesstimated that the third program would take more than fifteen years to get right). Whether any of that was worthwhile for its own sake is uncertain - but I'm quite sure that the effort added up to good learning experience. -- Morris Dovey DeSoto Solar DeSoto, Iowa USA http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/ |
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Leon wrote:
"Steve Turner" wrote in message ... Leon wrote: "Morris Dovey" wrote in message ... Larry Jaques wrote: Erm, what kind of MEGAdado blade is that wide, Morris? It's an ordinary blade making however many passes it takes. If you put a stacked dado in there to start with it should require far fewer passes. How about making the first and last cuts to establish the 7-1/2" joint width, take out 95% of the remaining waste with a single cut on the bandsaw (or jigsaw, depending on the board), then use a dozen or so passes with the stacked dado to nibble away the rest? Why not take it all out with the dado rather than make it a 3 step operation? So you don't have 7 tons of sawdust and unnecessarily dull your dado blades? -- Free bad advice available here. To reply, eat the taco. http://www.flickr.com/photos/bbqboyee/ |
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"Steve Turner" wrote in message ... Leon wrote: So you don't have 7 tons of sawdust and unnecessarily dull your dado blades? Yeah, I'll go with sawdust and dulling my dado blades. I am thinking it is going to be hard to remove waste from a dado with a BS. And that in particular is what dado blades are use for. Now I am thinking that I should use a hand saw so as to not dull my TS blade. ;~) |
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"Leon" wrote in
: Yeah, I'll go with sawdust and dulling my dado blades. I am thinking it is going to be hard to remove waste from a dado with a BS. And that in particular is what dado blades are use for. Now I am thinking that I should use a hand saw so as to not dull my TS blade. ;~) You need a CNC water jet saw. It'll make perfectly precise cuts without ever dulling the cutting material at all. Get one with an optional laser attachment, and rabbets and mortises become possible. Puckdropper -- U and I are the vowels in Stupid. |
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"Puckdropper" puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com wrote in message ... "Leon" wrote in : Yeah, I'll go with sawdust and dulling my dado blades. I am thinking it is going to be hard to remove waste from a dado with a BS. And that in particular is what dado blades are use for. Now I am thinking that I should use a hand saw so as to not dull my TS blade. ;~) You need a CNC water jet saw. It'll make perfectly precise cuts without ever dulling the cutting material at all. Get one with an optional laser attachment, and rabbets and mortises become possible. Would I need to use a hair dryer on the wood afterward? ;~) |
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Leon wrote:
"Steve Turner" wrote in message ... Leon wrote: So you don't have 7 tons of sawdust and unnecessarily dull your dado blades? Yeah, I'll go with sawdust and dulling my dado blades. I am thinking it is going to be hard to remove waste from a dado with a BS. And that in particular is what dado blades are use for. Now I am thinking that I should use a hand saw so as to not dull my TS blade. ;~) Well, we haven't established what kind of board the 7-1/2 wide joint is being cut in, have we? If it's a 4" wide board with a 2" deep dado, then I think *I* will choose to remove the waste with a bandsaw, and I don't think it would be hard at all. And in *particular*, dado blades are typically designed to be dialed in to a specific width, say 31/64", 23/32", 3/4", or whatever, using a single pass to receive say, a shelf board of that particular thickness. If you want to use a dado blade to hog out 58 cubic inches of of waste wood, be my guest, but it seems kinda dumb to me. I'd much rather remove the majority of the waste by other means and simply use the dado blade to smooth out the bottom of the joint. -- See Nad. See Nad go. Go Nad! To reply, eat the taco. http://www.flickr.com/photos/bbqboyee/ |
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On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 13:13:00 -0600, the infamous "Leon"
scrawled the following: "Steve Turner" wrote in message ... Leon wrote: So you don't have 7 tons of sawdust and unnecessarily dull your dado blades? Yeah, I'll go with sawdust and dulling my dado blades. I am thinking it is going to be hard to remove waste from a dado with a BS. And that in particular is what dado blades are use for. Now I am thinking that I should use a hand saw so as to not dull my TS blade. ;~) Indeed! Please send pics of you cutting several dozen perfectly flat 7.5" dadoes in oak tubafores with your coping saw. chortle -- "To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical." -- Thomas Jefferson |
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On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 11:49:41 -0600, the infamous Morris Dovey
scrawled the following: Larry Jaques wrote: Ouchouchouchouchouch. No ouches. Crapsman wobble dado = ouch #1, and that's a biggie. In retrospect, both efforts seem worthwhile - and both programs nibbled at the edges of how something might be "known". The first program dealt with knowledge and context in a "static" sense, and the second dealt with some of the "dynamics" of knowing. I had planned to write a third program to explore the interrelatedness of knowledge, but ran out of time (I guesstimated that the third program would take more than fifteen years to get right). And if you don't think that constitutes an ouch, you're freakin' nerveless! Whether any of that was worthwhile for its own sake is uncertain - but I'm quite sure that the effort added up to good learning experience. In this case, it soitenly reflects the saying "Experience is what you get when you didn't get what you wanted." -- "To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical." -- Thomas Jefferson |
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Larry Jaques wrote:
On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 11:49:41 -0600, the infamous Morris Dovey scrawled the following: Larry Jaques wrote: Ouchouchouchouchouch. No ouches. Crapsman wobble dado = ouch #1, and that's a biggie. Mine cost less than $15 and has done an adequate job at what I've wanted it to do for almost forty years. For me, that's not an ouch. That folks whose focus is building fine furniture don't like the not-perfectly-flat bottomed kerf doesn't bother me. I don't build furniture, and when I /need/ a flat-bottomed kerf I choose a different tool. shrug In retrospect, both efforts seem worthwhile - and both programs nibbled at the edges of how something might be "known". The first program dealt with knowledge and context in a "static" sense, and the second dealt with some of the "dynamics" of knowing. I had planned to write a third program to explore the interrelatedness of knowledge, but ran out of time (I guesstimated that the third program would take more than fifteen years to get right). And if you don't think that constitutes an ouch, you're freakin' nerveless! Hmm - I don't /feel/ nerveless, and for as long as I can remember I've thought that saying something was "impossible" was a poor excuse for not making it possible. The old saw about the impossible just taking a bit longer contains more than a modicum of truth. I know people who spent more time developing a better golf game, polishing their musical abilities, or perfecting brush strokes than I spent on my endeavors. Whether any of that was worthwhile for its own sake is uncertain - but I'm quite sure that the effort added up to good learning experience. In this case, it soitenly reflects the saying "Experience is what you get when you didn't get what you wanted." Not so in these cases - I produced demonstratable general solutions to both entire classes of problems in a form that I could (and did) share with other people. When I published the first, Steve "the Waz" Wozniac flew out to take me to dinner and warned me there were perhaps five people in the world who could understand what I'd done, but we agreed that the solution was worth the effort - and that I'd opened a new doorway for others to walk through. The techniques and methods learned raised the quality of the work that I did and allowed me to provide the folks who paid me to help solve their problems with results that were universally better, faster, /and/ less costly than they expected. Resources expended are only an "ouch" if wasted. I don't think I've wasted (or am wasting) much of mine - that's something everyone has to decide for themselves (and, as Frost pointed out, there are /always/ roads not taken). I have other things to do with what a stacked dado set would cost, and other tools that do its job even better. I can live with my wobbler. -- Morris Dovey DeSoto Solar DeSoto, Iowa USA http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/ |
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"Morris Dovey" wrote in message ... Crapsman wobble dado = ouch #1, and that's a biggie. Mine cost less than $15 and has done an adequate job at what I've wanted it to do for almost forty years. For me, that's not an ouch. I have to say, I think I still have mine around here some where. That folks whose focus is building fine furniture don't like the not-perfectly-flat bottomed kerf doesn't bother me. I don't build furniture, and when I /need/ a flat-bottomed kerf I choose a different tool. shrug snip Hmm - I don't /feel/ nerveless, and for as long as I can remember I've thought that saying something was "impossible" was a poor excuse for not making it possible. I really cannot say that using the wobble blade make ne nervous either. It is well balanced. For me it's drawbacks were rounded bottoms, not so smooth cuts, and damn hard to accurately adjust the width. IIRC tightening the arbor nut seemed to always change the width setting. |
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"Leon" wrote in
: "Morris Dovey" wrote in message ... Crapsman wobble dado = ouch #1, and that's a biggie. Mine cost less than $15 and has done an adequate job at what I've wanted it to do for almost forty years. For me, that's not an ouch. I have to say, I think I still have mine around here some where. That folks whose focus is building fine furniture don't like the not-perfectly-flat bottomed kerf doesn't bother me. I don't build furniture, and when I /need/ a flat-bottomed kerf I choose a different tool. shrug snip Hmm - I don't /feel/ nerveless, and for as long as I can remember I've thought that saying something was "impossible" was a poor excuse for not making it possible. I really cannot say that using the wobble blade make ne nervous either. It is well balanced. For me it's drawbacks were rounded bottoms, not so smooth cuts, and damn hard to accurately adjust the width. IIRC tightening the arbor nut seemed to always change the width setting. I've got one of those wobble dados in question. It sure does adjust when tightening the arbor nut. It does good enough in cutting, but boy is it difficult to adjust the width. If width is important, it's just not worth the trouble. Were I hogging out several large sections (say for half lap joinery), it would be worth using. For box joints or anything where width is important, it's just not worth it. Hey Morris, think we could use the sun's rays to make a laser saw? Puckdropper -- There is no signature. There is a signature. |
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Larry Jaques wrote:
Oh, I thought you were doing this on your own time. Getting paid for it is great, much less of an 'ouch', especially when you solved the problems. You were correct. I wasn't paid for solving those problems, but developing the solutions turned out to be just the learning exercise I needed to be /invited/ to help solve other interesting problems for which people were willing to pay more. I have other things to do with what a stacked dado set would cost, and other tools that do its job even better. I can live with my wobbler. Yabbut, it's a _Crapsman_! Yeah well, what can I say? I bought it in '73 to make a set of trivets on the RAS for my (now) ex. The trivets came out well enough that the ex packed 'em carefully when she left. The Sears wobbler, at least, still works like new. I think I'll stop talking now. :-/ -- Morris Dovey DeSoto Solar DeSoto, Iowa USA http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/ |
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Puckdropper wrote:
I've got one of those wobble dados in question. It sure does adjust when tightening the arbor nut. It does good enough in cutting, but boy is it difficult to adjust the width. If width is important, it's just not worth the trouble. It's possible that I just got lucky, but I haven't had that problem. Hey Morris, think we could use the sun's rays to make a laser saw? Ooooo! Nice shiny bait - maybe just a /tiny/ nibble... Should be do-able *but* I would expect that SWMBO might object strenuously if the smoke collection system were anything less than absolutely perfect. -- Morris Dovey DeSoto Solar DeSoto, Iowa USA http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/ |
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"Puckdropper" wrote: I've got one of those wobble dados in question. It sure does adjust when tightening the arbor nut. It does good enough in cutting, but boy is it difficult to adjust the width. If width is important, it's just not worth the trouble. IMHO, damn things don't even make a poor boat anchor.. Good for re-melt in an electric arc furnace. Lew |
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