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"Robatoy" wrote in message ... I now make parts for different people who e-mail/fax me drawings so I can quote on them. Some parts are such that I can't tell what they are or what they're the purpose of them are. Sometimes I see dimensions as obviously imperial ones, sometime it is hard to tell, especially when I have NO clue what these parts are. Personally, I don't give a rat's ass what system is used as I work in both metric and imperial. But what seems to be the reason for the US hold-out to stay with an archaic system? http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/9974/metricmap.jpg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QTj45cTB4U basilisk |
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"Swingman" wrote in message ... Don't feed 'em ... I can't stand to see anyone go hungry basilisk |
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I now make parts for different people who e-mail/fax me drawings so I
can quote on them. Some parts are such that I can't tell what they are or what they're the purpose of them are. Sometimes I see dimensions as obviously imperial ones, sometime it is hard to tell, especially when I have NO clue what these parts are. Personally, I don't give a rat's ass what system is used as I work in both metric and imperial. But what seems to be the reason for the US hold-out to stay with an archaic system? http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/9974/metricmap.jpg |
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.... But what seems to be the reason for the US hold-out to stay with an archaic system? Comfort...it's what people grew up with so it's what's natural. -- |
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On Sep 8, 8:34*am, dpb wrote:
Robatoy wrote: ... But what seems to be the reason for the US hold-out to stay with an archaic system? Comfort...it's what people grew up with so it's what's natural. -- Interfacing easily with almost all other nations on earth would also bring comfort, no? |
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"Robatoy" wrote in message ... I now make parts for different people who e-mail/fax me drawings so I can quote on them. Some parts are such that I can't tell what they are or what they're the purpose of them are. Sometimes I see dimensions as obviously imperial ones, sometime it is hard to tell, especially when I have NO clue what these parts are. Personally, I don't give a rat's ass what system is used as I work in both metric and imperial. But what seems to be the reason for the US hold-out to stay with an archaic system? http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/9974/metricmap.jpg Ok, What ia half of 5.3 mm? |
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Leon wrote:
"Robatoy" wrote in message ... I now make parts for different people who e-mail/fax me drawings so I can quote on them. Some parts are such that I can't tell what they are or what they're the purpose of them are. Sometimes I see dimensions as obviously imperial ones, sometime it is hard to tell, especially when I have NO clue what these parts are. Personally, I don't give a rat's ass what system is used as I work in both metric and imperial. But what seems to be the reason for the US hold-out to stay with an archaic system? http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/9974/metricmap.jpg Ok, What ia half of 5.3 mm? 2.65 mm What's half of 5.3 inches? |
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"Greg Neill" wrote in message ... Leon wrote: "Robatoy" wrote in message ... I now make parts for different people who e-mail/fax me drawings so I can quote on them. Some parts are such that I can't tell what they are or what they're the purpose of them are. Sometimes I see dimensions as obviously imperial ones, sometime it is hard to tell, especially when I have NO clue what these parts are. Personally, I don't give a rat's ass what system is used as I work in both metric and imperial. But what seems to be the reason for the US hold-out to stay with an archaic system? http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/9974/metricmap.jpg Ok, What ia half of 5.3 mm? 2.65 mm Can you see an mark 2.65 mm? What's half of 5.3 inches? 2.65 " |
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Leon wrote:
"Greg Neill" wrote in message ... Leon wrote: "Robatoy" wrote in message ... I now make parts for different people who e-mail/fax me drawings so I can quote on them. Some parts are such that I can't tell what they are or what they're the purpose of them are. Sometimes I see dimensions as obviously imperial ones, sometime it is hard to tell, especially when I have NO clue what these parts are. Personally, I don't give a rat's ass what system is used as I work in both metric and imperial. But what seems to be the reason for the US hold-out to stay with an archaic system? http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/9974/metricmap.jpg Ok, What ia half of 5.3 mm? 2.65 mm Can you see an mark 2.65 mm? What's half of 5.3 inches? 2.65 " So, six of one and half a dozen of the other... :-) |
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On Sep 8, 9:04*am, "Leon" wrote:
"Robatoy" wrote in message ... I now make parts for different people who e-mail/fax me drawings so I can quote on them. Some parts are such that I can't tell what they are or what they're the purpose of them are. Sometimes I see dimensions as obviously imperial ones, sometime it is hard to tell, especially when I have NO clue what these parts are. Personally, I don't give a rat's ass what system is used as I work in both metric and imperial. But what seems to be the reason for the US hold-out to stay with an archaic system? http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/9974/metricmap.jpg Ok, What ia half of 5.3 mm? That'd be 0.1043307", Leon. (BTW, I do get your point. )G |
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Robatoy wrote: ... But what seems to be the reason for the US hold-out to stay with an archaic system? Comfort...it's what people grew up with so it's what's natural. The hold-out is that the US is still at least somewhat responsive to the will of the people and the public doesn't _want_ some bizarre French system crammed down its throat. |
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"Leon" wrote in message ... "Robatoy" wrote in message ... I now make parts for different people who e-mail/fax me drawings so I can quote on them. Some parts are such that I can't tell what they are or what they're the purpose of them are. Sometimes I see dimensions as obviously imperial ones, sometime it is hard to tell, especially when I have NO clue what these parts are. Personally, I don't give a rat's ass what system is used as I work in both metric and imperial. But what seems to be the reason for the US hold-out to stay with an archaic system? http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/9974/metricmap.jpg Ok, What ia half of 5.3 mm? Irrelevant if you've truly converted to metric. Just like learning a foreign language. When you've truly gotten it, you don't translate in your head, you *think* in the language in which you're speaking. No different here. 5.3mm=5.3mm. period. |
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Don't feed 'em ... --www.e-woodshop.net Last update: 8/18/08 KarlC@ (the obvious) Your cynicism is starting to make you look silly. |
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Robatoy wrote:
I now make parts for different people who e-mail/fax me drawings so I can quote on them. Some parts are such that I can't tell what they are or what they're the purpose of them are. Sometimes I see dimensions as obviously imperial ones, sometime it is hard to tell, especially when I have NO clue what these parts are. Personally, I don't give a rat's ass what system is used as I work in both metric and imperial. But what seems to be the reason for the US hold-out to stay with an archaic system? 1. Though a PITA, it is what we are used to. 2. Precision? The metric scales I have seen are marked in millimeters... 1/25.4 inch. It is not uncommon to have an imperial scale marked in 1/32 or even 1/64. -- dadiOH ____________________________ dadiOH's dandies v3.06... ....a help file of info about MP3s, recording from LP/cassette and tips & tricks on this and that. Get it at http://mysite.verizon.net/xico |
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Robatoy wrote:
On Sep 8, 8:34*am, dpb wrote: Robatoy wrote: ... But what seems to be the reason for the US hold-out to stay with an archaic system? Comfort...it's what people grew up with so it's what's natural. -- Interfacing easily with almost all other nations on earth would also bring comfort, no? feet and inches are often far easier to remember than metric measurements as the numbers get larger , you also have the problem that different trades in different countries use different protocols , some use metres some centimetres others millimetres but they dont always identify which , leads to fun and games sometimes . The other issue is that in the us as well as the uk most homes were built to imperial standard dimensions so you use 8 by 4 sheets of ply or plasterboard , in europe most plasterboard sheet material is now metric 1200 by 2400 , 1800 by 900 which creates problems in refit works specs etc 6 feet /72 inches is often easier to remember than 1828mm |
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But what seems to be the reason for the US hold-out to stay with an archaic system? snip The Freemasons are the ones keeping the Metric system out of the US. Larry C |
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"steve robinson" wrote in message ... Robatoy wrote: feet and inches are often far easier to remember than metric measurements as the numbers get larger , you also have the problem that different trades in different countries use different protocols , some use metres some centimetres others millimetres but they dont always identify which , leads to fun and games sometimes . In the same situation, I believe that all the metric measurements being "53??????meter." could easily be confused with "53?????meters. Basically the units of measure sound too much the same. Yards, feet, and Inches sound way different than meters, decimeters, centimeters, and millimeters The other issue is that in the us as well as the uk most homes were built to imperial standard dimensions so you use 8 by 4 sheets of ply or plasterboard , in europe most plasterboard sheet material is now metric 1200 by 2400 , 1800 by 900 which creates problems in refit works specs etc I wonder if that is a valid assumption. Seldom do you pull out a 4x8 of any thing and replace it as a unit. More often it is patched and cut to fit. 6 feet /72 inches is often easier to remember than 1828mm But what makes 6' or 72 inches easier to remember than 1800 mm? |
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Robatoy wrote:
On Sep 8, 9:04 am, "Leon" wrote: "Robatoy" wrote in message ... I now make parts for different people who e-mail/fax me drawings so I can quote on them. Some parts are such that I can't tell what they are or what they're the purpose of them are. Sometimes I see dimensions as obviously imperial ones, sometime it is hard to tell, especially when I have NO clue what these parts are. Personally, I don't give a rat's ass what system is used as I work in both metric and imperial. But what seems to be the reason for the US hold-out to stay with an archaic system? http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/9974/metricmap.jpg Ok, What ia half of 5.3 mm? That'd be 0.1043307", Leon. (BTW, I do get your point. )G I used to design business forms. Most typewriters (remember those) and computer printers were based on the inch systems but used many strange scales. I ended up having to work with line spacing of 1/8", 1/4", 1/3" and 1/2", character spacing varied from 1/12", 1/10", 1/8", 1/6" and up to 5/32". The biggest problem is that the typesetting equipment all ran on another scale traditionally used by typesetters and printers, picas and points. While conversion is not precise, a pica is very close to 1/6" and there are 12 points to a pica which works out to about 72 points to the inch. When you work in all these scales for many years it becomes natural to you and you can convert back and forth in your head easily. I still have stainless steel rulers in all these spacings and scales, and often use them when one of them will work better for me. When it works correctly I will even use metric. One of the reasons that the old Imperial system is dying is that different countries used different standards. I learned many years ago that Imperial measurements are useless in precision work because England, Canada, Australia and the US all had different lengths of inches. Granted this was at the 5th or 6th decimal but it was unuseable. Another example is the gallon. Do you prefer it to liters? But which gallon? In the printing business we had to mix photo chemicals for our litho camera film. You would have to check where the Kodak chemicals were made because if they said add 30 ounces of concentrate to a gallon of water, you needed to know which ounces and which gallon. A US Gallon contains 128 ounces which is 4 quarts of 32 ounces each, a Canadian Gallon contains 160 ounces which is 4 quarts of 40 ounces each. Even the ounces were slightly different. In this regard metric is much easier. |
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Robatoy wrote:
On Sep 8, 8:34 am, dpb wrote: Robatoy wrote: ... But what seems to be the reason for the US hold-out to stay with an archaic system? Comfort...it's what people grew up with so it's what's natural. -- Interfacing easily with almost all other nations on earth would also bring comfort, no? On a personal level, no... OTOH, enterprises engaged in large-scale and/or routine trade _do_ use mks routinely. I'm guessing you're dealing essentially w/ individuals not sizable corporate engineering groups. I'm a NE by training and 40+ years experience so know mks for engineering work intimately. Yet, for routine day-to-day living I'm far more comfortable w/ English units simply because they're still what have that innate feeling over. It's no different than your familiarity w/ daily temp's in C and sheet goods in mm--that was what you grew up with; it's what you unconsciously think in. OTOH, while you "know" what an inch is, it takes actual effort to relate that. We're precisely the other way 'round (and I suspect will continue to be for the foreseeable future as there isn't the mechanism in the States to coerce the changeover). -- -- |
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On Sep 8, 10:15*am, "steve robinson"
wrote: Robatoy wrote: On Sep 8, 8:34*am, dpb wrote: Robatoy wrote: ... But what seems to be the reason for the US hold-out to stay with an archaic system? Comfort...it's what people grew up with so it's what's natural. -- Interfacing easily with almost all other nations on earth would also bring comfort, no? feet and inches are often far easier to remember than metric measurements as the numbers get larger , you also have the problem that different trades in different countries use different protocols , some use metres some centimetres others millimetres but they dont always identify which , leads to fun and games sometimes . The other issue is that in the us as well as the uk most homes were built to imperial standard dimensions so you use 8 by 4 sheets of ply or plasterboard , in europe most plasterboard sheet material is now metric 1200 by 2400 , 1800 by 900 which creates problems in refit works specs etc 6 feet /72 inches is often easier to remember than 1828mm All valid points. Thanks for those. |
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dpb wrote:
Robatoy wrote: On Sep 8, 8:34 am, dpb wrote: Robatoy wrote: ... But what seems to be the reason for the US hold-out to stay with an archaic system? Comfort...it's what people grew up with so it's what's natural. -- Interfacing easily with almost all other nations on earth would also bring comfort, no? On a personal level, no... OTOH, enterprises engaged in large-scale and/or routine trade _do_ use mks routinely. I'm guessing you're dealing essentially w/ individuals not sizable corporate engineering groups. I'm a NE by training and 40+ years experience so know mks for engineering work intimately. Yet, for routine day-to-day living I'm far more comfortable w/ English units simply because they're still what have that innate feeling over. It's no different than your familiarity w/ daily temp's in C and sheet goods in mm--that was what you grew up with; it's what you unconsciously think in. OTOH, while you "know" what an inch is, it takes actual effort to relate that. We're precisely the other way 'round (and I suspect will continue to be for the foreseeable future as there isn't the mechanism in the States to coerce the changeover). -- -- I think Obama needs to know about this. We need some more "change" we can believe in. We need a Metric Czar. |
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Robatoy wrote:
I now make parts for different people who e-mail/fax me drawings so I can quote on them. Some parts are such that I can't tell what they are or what they're the purpose of them are. Sometimes I see dimensions as obviously imperial ones, sometime it is hard to tell, especially when I have NO clue what these parts are. Personally, I don't give a rat's ass what system is used as I work in both metric and imperial. But what seems to be the reason for the US hold-out to stay with an archaic system? http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/9974/metricmap.jpg One has to look at the basics for each system: 1 meter = one ten-millionth of the distance from the pole to the equator measured along the prime meridian. 1 pound = "A pint's a pound the world around" Now I ask you: which is more meaningful to the average person? |
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"Chuck" wrote in message ... I think Obama needs to know about this. We need some more "change" we can believe in. We need a Metric Czar. Been there Done that. Jimmy C tried that and that is why we deal with a mixed up mess today expecially in the auto industry. 30 years later and American cars still have a mix of metric and imperial parts. |
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On Sep 8, 11:49*am, "Leon" wrote:
"Chuck" wrote in message ... I think Obama needs to know about this. We need some more "change" we can believe in. We need a Metric Czar. Been there Done that. *Jimmy C tried that and that is why we deal with a mixed up mess today expecially in the auto industry. *30 years later and American cars still have a mix of metric and imperial parts. Well, now you got another Jimmy C...*WEG* |
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"Leon" wrote in
: Ok, What ia half of 5.3 mm? 0.10433070866141732283464566929134 inch. Floating point error might have occurred. Puckdropper -- "The potential difference between the top and bottom of a tree is the reason why all trees have to be grounded..." -- Bored Borg on rec.woodworking To email me directly, send a message to puckdropper (at) fastmail.fm |
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On Sep 8, 5:32*am, Robatoy wrote:
I now make parts for different people who e-mail/fax me drawings so I can quote on them. Some parts are such that I can't tell what they are or what they're the purpose of them are. Sometimes I see dimensions as obviously imperial ones, sometime it is hard to tell, especially when I have NO clue what these parts are. Personally, I don't give a rat's ass what system is used as I work in both metric and imperial. But what seems to be the reason for the US hold-out to stay with an archaic system? Here are the main arguments for both sides of the debate: PRO IMPERIAL: There is absolutely no question; traditional imperial measurements are far superior for woodworking. Most wreckers use it for very good reasons: PRO METRIC: There is absolutely no question; metric measurements are far superior for woodworking. Most woodworkers in the world use it for very good reasons: Intuitiveness: 1. Imperial is much more intuitive and natural. Feet and inches (thumbs) have been used throughout human history as they are related to human body parts (fingers and feet). As Michelangelo said: man is the measure of all things. 1. Metric is much more intuitive and natural. Humans always use a base 10 system as it is related to human body parts (number of fingers & toes). As Michelangelo said: man is the measure of all things. Communicating measurements: 2. Imperial is easier to hear and leads to less confusion. Someone calls out a measurement for a piece of wood, & before you notice it, you cut 10mm instead of 10cm. 2. Metric is easier to hear and leads to less confusion. Quickly now, is 19/32" bigger or smaller than 5/8"? On the other hand, it is immediately obvious that 15mm is smaller than 16mm. Ease of learning: 3. Imperial measurements are easier to learn. You don't have to memorize all those crazy prefixes: femto, nano, micro, milli, centi, deci, deka, hecto, kilo, mega, myria, giga, etc. 3. Metric measurements are easier to learn. You don't have to remember all those crazy measures like inches, hands, feet, cubits, yards, fathoms, rods, cones, chains, furlongs, cables, miles, etc. Arithmetic: 4. Imperial uses simple fractional arithmetic which we all learned in grade school. Not like metric where you need to know all those prefixes and can easily make a mistake on your calculator & cut something 10 times too big or 10 times too small. 4. Metric uses simple decimal arithmetic where you can use your calculator directly without springing big bucks for one that calculates inches and fractions. Division: 5. It's a lot easier to divide stuff in imperial measurements. What do you call half a millimeter? Ever try to divide 304.8mm by four? A foot is real easy - 12" divided by four is 3". 5. It's a lot easier to divide stuff in metric measurements. Ever try to divide 39 9/16 inches by four? While 1000mm divided by four readily gives 250mm. Accuracy: 6. Imperial is more accurate. You can easily go to 1/32 which is more precise than 1mm. 6. Metric is more accurate. You can easily go to 0.5mm which is more precise than 1/32" The REAL Reason: 7. Metric is a stupid cowardly French system. You don't want to support those smelly unwashed arrogant ingrates, do you? GOD BLESS AMERICA! 7. Inches and feet are a stupid warmongering American imperialist system. The rest of the world and all scientists use the much more rational metric system. It's about time the US gets into the 19th century, never mind the 21st! VIVE LA FRANCE! |
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"HeyBub" wrote in message m... [...] 1 pound = "A pint's a pound the world around" which I think means 16oz in a lb and 16oz in a pint, but only in the US. An Imperial pint is 20 fl oz the world around. Tim W |
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On Sep 8, 8:36*am, "HeyBub" wrote:
1 pound = "A pint's a pound the world around" Now I ask you: which is more meaningful to the average person? Too bad it's wrong. A pint is 1/8 of a gallon or 20 ounces. A gallon of water (a real one, not the wimpy American kind) is 10 lbs., so one eighth of 10 lbs is not one pound. Same goes for the silly Yankee gallon, which is eight point something pounds. Actually, volume and weight is where the metric system really shines. For linear distances, it doesn't really matter what you use: inches, mm, cm, feet, cubits, whatever. I was trying to figure out how much rain on my roof it took to fill a 45-gallon drum (55 gallons to you, Bubba). How many cubic inches in a gallon??? While translated in to metric system, it was all straightforward once I knew how many litres in a gallon. Luigi |
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On Sep 8, 1:24*pm, Luigi Zanasi wrote:
On Sep 8, 5:32*am, Robatoy wrote: I now make parts for different people who e-mail/fax me drawings so I can quote on them. Some parts are such that I can't tell what they are or what they're the purpose of them are. Sometimes I see dimensions as obviously imperial ones, sometime it is hard to tell, especially when I have NO clue what these parts are. Personally, I don't give a rat's ass what system is used as I work in both metric and imperial. But what seems to be the reason for the US hold-out to stay with an archaic system? Here are the main arguments for both sides of the debate: PRO IMPERIAL: There is absolutely no question; traditional imperial measurements are far superior for woodworking. Most wreckers use it for very good reasons: PRO METRIC: There is absolutely no question; metric measurements are far superior for woodworking. Most woodworkers in the world use it for very good reasons: Intuitiveness: 1. Imperial is much more intuitive and natural. Feet and inches (thumbs) have been used throughout human history as they are related to human body parts (fingers and feet). As Michelangelo said: man is the measure of all things. 1. Metric is much more intuitive and natural. Humans always use a base 10 system as it is related to human body parts (number of fingers & toes). As Michelangelo said: man is the measure of all things. Communicating measurements: 2. Imperial is easier to hear and leads to less confusion. Someone calls out a measurement for a piece of wood, & before you notice it, you cut 10mm instead of 10cm. 2. Metric is easier to hear and leads to less confusion. Quickly now, is 19/32" bigger or smaller than 5/8"? On the other hand, it is immediately obvious that 15mm is smaller than 16mm. Ease of learning: 3. Imperial measurements are easier to learn. You don't have to memorize all those crazy prefixes: femto, nano, micro, milli, centi, deci, deka, hecto, kilo, mega, myria, giga, etc. 3. Metric measurements are easier to learn. You don't have to remember all those crazy measures like inches, hands, feet, cubits, yards, fathoms, rods, cones, chains, furlongs, cables, miles, etc. Arithmetic: 4. Imperial uses simple fractional arithmetic which we all learned in grade school. Not like metric where you need to know all those prefixes and can easily make a mistake on your calculator & cut something 10 times too big or 10 times too small. 4. Metric uses simple decimal arithmetic where you can use your calculator directly without springing big bucks for one that calculates inches and fractions. Division: 5. It's a lot easier to divide stuff in imperial measurements. What do you call half a millimeter? Ever try to divide 304.8mm by four? A foot is real easy - 12" divided by four is 3". 5. It's a lot easier to divide stuff in metric measurements. Ever try to divide 39 9/16 inches by four? While 1000mm divided by four readily gives 250mm. Accuracy: 6. Imperial is more accurate. You can easily go to 1/32 which is more precise than 1mm. 6. Metric is more accurate. You can easily go to 0.5mm which is more precise than 1/32" The REAL Reason: 7. Metric is a stupid cowardly French system. You don't want to support those smelly unwashed arrogant ingrates, do you? GOD BLESS AMERICA! 7. Inches and feet are a stupid warmongering American imperialist system. The rest of the world and all scientists use the much more rational metric system. It's about time the US gets into the 19th century, never mind the 21st! VIVE LA FRANCE! That is an explanation I can live with. |
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On Tue, 08 Sep 2009 14:16:02 GMT, "Larry C"
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On 09/08/2009 06:32 AM, Robatoy wrote:
But what seems to be the reason for the US hold-out to stay with an archaic system? The cost for wholesale switchover would be a huge one-time cost, while the cost for staying is paid incrementally. There isn't enough incentive to make it worthwhile in the minds of regulators. Kind of like keyboard layout...Dvorak is 10-15% faster for a trained typist, but the cost of switching is too high to make it worth doing. I'm in Canada, so we get everything...metric, US, and Imperial. Personally I like metric for most things, but living so close to the US it's just easier to use US units for construction/woodworking. Chris |
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On Sep 8, 3:09*pm, Tom Veatch wrote:
On Tue, 08 Sep 2009 14:16:02 GMT, "Larry C" wrote: The Freemasons are the ones keeping the Metric system out of the US. I assume that's tongue in cheek, 'cause if it was intended as a serious statement, it's unadulterated horse****. Tom Veatch Wichita, KS USA I'm still trying to figure out what adulterated horse**** is. :-} |
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"Tom Veatch" wrote in message ... On Tue, 08 Sep 2009 14:16:02 GMT, "Larry C" wrote: The Freemasons are the ones keeping the Metric system out of the US. I assume that's tongue in cheek, 'cause if it was intended as a serious statement, it's unadulterated horse****. Tom Veatch Wichita, KS USA It was a joke |
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"Robatoy" wrote in message ... On Sep 8, 3:09 pm, Tom Veatch wrote: On Tue, 08 Sep 2009 14:16:02 GMT, "Larry C" wrote: The Freemasons are the ones keeping the Metric system out of the US. I assume that's tongue in cheek, 'cause if it was intended as a serious statement, it's unadulterated horse****. Tom Veatch Wichita, KS USA I'm still trying to figure out what adulterated horse**** is. :-} manure from an unfaithful horse? Is the unadulterated stuff better? |
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Larry C wrote:
"Tom Veatch" wrote in message ... On Tue, 08 Sep 2009 14:16:02 GMT, "Larry C" wrote: The Freemasons are the ones keeping the Metric system out of the US. I assume that's tongue in cheek, 'cause if it was intended as a serious statement, it's unadulterated horse****. Tom Veatch Wichita, KS USA It was a joke An unadulterated joke. -- -MIKE- "Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life" --Elvin Jones (1927-2004) -- http://mikedrums.com ---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply |
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"-MIKE-" wrote in message ... Larry C wrote: "Tom Veatch" wrote in message ... On Tue, 08 Sep 2009 14:16:02 GMT, "Larry C" wrote: The Freemasons are the ones keeping the Metric system out of the US. I assume that's tongue in cheek, 'cause if it was intended as a serious statement, it's unadulterated horse****. Tom Veatch Wichita, KS USA It was a joke An unadulterated joke. I meant to say Stone Cutters - a Simpsons reference but I typed quicker than I thought. The Freemasons are the guys who have all that treasure hidden somewhere in the US. |
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On Sep 8, 4:12*pm, -MIKE- wrote:
Larry C wrote: "Tom Veatch" wrote in message .. . On Tue, 08 Sep 2009 14:16:02 GMT, "Larry C" wrote: The Freemasons are the ones keeping the Metric system out of the US. I assume that's tongue in cheek, 'cause if it was intended as a serious statement, it's unadulterated horse****. Tom Veatch Wichita, KS USA It was a joke An unadulterated joke. Then what is an adulterated joke? |
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On Sep 8, 3:09*pm, Tom Veatch wrote:
On Tue, 08 Sep 2009 14:16:02 GMT, "Larry C" wrote: The Freemasons are the ones keeping the Metric system out of the US. I assume that's tongue in cheek, 'cause if it was intended as a serious statement, it's unadulterated horse****. Tom Veatch Wichita, KS USA I need more info. Whose tongue in whose cheek? Which cheek..come on.. I'm trying to understand.. =0) |
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"Larry C" wrote in message ... I meant to say Stone Cutters - a Simpsons reference but I typed quicker than I thought. The Freemasons are the guys who have all that treasure hidden somewhere in the US. And are plotting to take over the world. |
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