Geez, I happened to be in HF twice in the last couple of weeks and
boy I pity those folks. The smell is just so bad. And the tools I
bought
there (simple measuring tapes) continue to stink up my desk. Any
thought as to what is going on? And/or any ideas on how to
dissipate the smell?

MJM

In article
,
" wrote:

Geez, I happened to be in HF twice in the last couple of weeks and
boy I pity those folks. The smell is just so bad. And the tools I
bought
there (simple measuring tapes) continue to stink up my desk. Any
thought as to what is going on? And/or any ideas on how to
dissipate the smell?

MJM

I have been harping about that stink in many previous posts. Many of us
Wreckers have agreed that Chinese rubber/plastic STINKS!

I know I can buy a tool for cheap, for limited use at Princess Auto (A
Canuckistani version of HF) but I absolutely dread walking in there.

I had a rubber-coated flashlight in a metal toolbox. It was in one of my
trucks for a week or so and MAN.. I opened the toolbox and bloody-near
got floored by the fumes.

To the best of my knowledge, the Chinese rubber stink is as hard to get
rid of as is Hillary.

Wonder if the fumes are harmful. most likely. Plastic have many poisonous
compounds it it. Outgassing just spreads it around??

" wrote:

Geez, I happened to be in HF twice in the last couple of weeks and
boy I pity those folks. The smell is just so bad. And the tools I
bought
there (simple measuring tapes) continue to stink up my desk. Any
thought as to what is going on? And/or any ideas on how to
dissipate the smell?

I never had the smell. I've never been to a HF store and have no incentive
to go either. Thanks for confirming my reasons.

wrote:
Geez, I happened to be in HF twice in the last couple of weeks and
boy I pity those folks. The smell is just so bad. And the tools I
bought
there (simple measuring tapes) continue to stink up my desk. Any
thought as to what is going on? And/or any ideas on how to
dissipate the smell?

MJM

Cat Pee in the glue!

Lobby Dosser wrote:
wrote:
Geez, I happened to be in HF twice in the last couple of weeks and
boy I pity those folks. The smell is just so bad. And the tools I
bought
there (simple measuring tapes) continue to stink up my desk. Any
thought as to what is going on? And/or any ideas on how to
dissipate the smell?

MJM

Cat Pee in the glue!

And all this time I was blaming my cats for using the unswept sawdust
instead of the kitty box...... personally I don't really think HF Chinese
tools smell much different than anybody else's Chinese tools..... Rod

Rod & Betty Jo wrote:
Lobby Dosser wrote:
wrote:
Geez, I happened to be in HF twice in the last couple of weeks and
boy I pity those folks. The smell is just so bad. And the tools I
bought
there (simple measuring tapes) continue to stink up my desk. Any
thought as to what is going on? And/or any ideas on how to
dissipate the smell?

MJM
Cat Pee in the glue!

And all this time I was blaming my cats for using the unswept sawdust
instead of the kitty box...... personally I don't really think HF Chinese
tools smell much different than anybody else's Chinese tools..... Rod



They do. The HF cat pee glue is aged at least 90 days in quarter sawn
oak shavings.

On Jul 8, 10:33*pm, "Rick Samuel"
wrote:
*Wonder if the fumes are harmful. *most likely. *Plastic have many poisonous
compounds it it. *Outgassing just spreads it around??

Your culprit is outgassing. Remember, the solution to pollution is
dilution.
Joe G

I have been harping about that stink in many previous posts. Many of us
Wreckers have agreed that Chinese rubber/plastic STINKS!

I know I can buy a tool for cheap, for limited use at Princess Auto (A
Canuckistani version of HF) but I absolutely dread walking in there.

I had a rubber-coated flashlight in a metal toolbox. It was in one of my
trucks for a week or so and MAN.. I opened the toolbox and bloody-near
got floored by the fumes.

To the best of my knowledge, the Chinese rubber stink is as hard to get
rid of as is Hillary.


Got to get rid of that benzene, lead tainted paint and the rendered
bodies of those organ farmed prisoners somehow.

On Tue, 8 Jul 2008 22:48:19 -0400, "Edwin Pawlowski"
wrote:

I never had the smell. I've never been to a HF store and have no incentive
to go either. Thanks for confirming my reasons.

Ed, you have to go at least once.
It's like a car wreck, you just can't stop looking.


Mike O.

wrote in message
Geez, I happened to be in HF twice in the last couple of weeks and
boy I pity those folks. The smell is just so bad. And the tools I
bought
there (simple measuring tapes) continue to stink up my desk. Any
thought as to what is going on? And/or any ideas on how to
dissipate the smell?

Good luck. I've been storing a dolley, with "rubber" tires from HF, in a
store room for two years and the stink from the "rubber" is still enough to
run you out of the place.


--
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KarlC@ (the obvious)

wrote:
Geez, I happened to be in HF twice in the last couple of weeks and
boy I pity those folks. The smell is just so bad.

At the bicycle shop, we call that the "Chinese Factory Smell".

It has no equal.

On Jul 9, 2:06 am, Lobby Dosser wrote:
wrote:
Geez, I happened to be in HF twice in the last couple of weeks and
boy I pity those folks. The smell is just so bad. And the tools I
bought
there (simple measuring tapes) continue to stink up my desk. Any
thought as to what is going on? And/or any ideas on how to
dissipate the smell?

MJM

Cat Pee in the glue!

*Entire* cat in the glue.

On Jul 10, 10:29 pm, Father Haskell wrote:
On Jul 9, 2:06 am, Lobby Dosser wrote:

wrote:
Geez, I happened to be in HF twice in the last couple of weeks and
boy I pity those folks. The smell is just so bad. And the tools I
bought
there (simple measuring tapes) continue to stink up my desk. Any
thought as to what is going on? And/or any ideas on how to
dissipate the smell?

MJM

Cat Pee in the glue!

*Entire* cat in the glue.

Nope. The rest of the cat is in your tuna salad!

Lobby Dosser wrote:

On Jul 10, 10:29 pm, Father Haskell wrote:
On Jul 9, 2:06 am, Lobby Dosser wrote:

wrote:
Geez, I happened to be in HF twice in the last couple of weeks and
boy I pity those folks. The smell is just so bad. And the tools I
bought
there (simple measuring tapes) continue to stink up my desk. Any
thought as to what is going on? And/or any ideas on how to
dissipate the smell?

MJM

Cat Pee in the glue!

*Entire* cat in the glue.

Nope. The rest of the cat is in your tuna salad!

http://www.funnypart.com/funny_flash/peking_moon.shtml

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If you're going to be dumb, you better be tough

Their rubber and plastic parts are made from recycled junk from here mixed
with a bunch of US banned chemicals. Why do you think they want all of our
recyclable rubber and plastics? They remelt or alter the formulation and
then sell it to us! Remember all the kids toys which were recalled due to
numerous problems like lead and other banned chemicals. Now imagine going
to their country and having to smell that same smell everywhere. I pity it
may make a few of the foreign athletes a little nauseous. They also banned
dog meat in restaurants for the Olympians! That is a sight I will never
forget when they had dogs in cages waiting to be killed and served to eat.
Very disgusting.

Jon

"B A R R Y" wrote in message
...
wrote:
Geez, I happened to be in HF twice in the last couple of weeks and
boy I pity those folks. The smell is just so bad.

At the bicycle shop, we call that the "Chinese Factory Smell".

It has no equal.

"Jon" wrote in message ..
They also banned dog meat in restaurants for the Olympians! That is a
sight I will never forget when they had dogs in cages waiting to be killed
and served to eat. Very disgusting.

Jon

What makes dogs disgusting that is so different from cows, pigs, and Mary's
little lamb?

I used to go to the Italian markets on 9th street in Philly. You could pick
out your chicken or rabbit and have it killed and dressed. Horsemeat is
readily available in many places in Europe.

"Edwin Pawlowski" wrote in message
...

"Jon" wrote in message ..
They also banned dog meat in restaurants for the Olympians! That is a
sight I will never forget when they had dogs in cages waiting to be
killed and served to eat. Very disgusting.

Jon

What makes dogs disgusting that is so different from cows, pigs, and
Mary's little lamb?

I used to go to the Italian markets on 9th street in Philly. You could
pick out your chicken or rabbit and have it killed and dressed. Horsemeat
is readily available in many places in Europe.

I still go, although we now call it The Asian Market.
--


"Anybody can have more birthdays; but it takes
balls to get old!"

Edwin Pawlowski wrote:

: "Jon" wrote in message ..
: They also banned dog meat in restaurants for the Olympians! That is a
: sight I will never forget when they had dogs in cages waiting to be killed
: and served to eat. Very disgusting.
:
: Jon

: What makes dogs disgusting that is so different from cows, pigs, and Mary's
: little lamb?


Dogs have a specialized relationship to humans as companions, which has
existed apparently since the beginning of biologically modern humans
100,000 years ago.

-- Andy Barss

"Mike" wrote in message

I used to go to the Italian markets on 9th street in Philly. You could
pick out your chicken or rabbit and have it killed and dressed.
Horsemeat is readily available in many places in Europe.

I still go, although we now call it The Asian Market.
--


Not surprising. It was starting to change in the early 80's before I moved
to CT. The cheese shop, spice shop and bakeries were my favorites.

"Andrew Barss" wrote in message
...
Edwin Pawlowski wrote:

: "Jon" wrote in message ..
: They also banned dog meat in restaurants for the Olympians! That is a
: sight I will never forget when they had dogs in cages waiting to be
killed
: and served to eat. Very disgusting.
:
: Jon

: What makes dogs disgusting that is so different from cows, pigs, and
Mary's
: little lamb?


Dogs have a specialized relationship to humans as companions, which has
existed apparently since the beginning of biologically modern humans
100,000 years ago.

-- Andy Barss

That doesn't make them any less edible. Horses do work around the
farm/ranch and still end up on the table.

Edwin Pawlowski wrote:
"Andrew Barss" wrote in message
...
Edwin Pawlowski wrote:

: "Jon" wrote in message ..
: They also banned dog meat in restaurants for the Olympians! That is a
: sight I will never forget when they had dogs in cages waiting to be
killed
: and served to eat. Very disgusting.
:
: Jon

: What makes dogs disgusting that is so different from cows, pigs, and
Mary's
: little lamb?


Dogs have a specialized relationship to humans as companions, which has
existed apparently since the beginning of biologically modern humans
100,000 years ago.

-- Andy Barss

That doesn't make them any less edible. Horses do work around the
farm/ranch and still end up on the table.

And in some cultures I suspect they've been on the menu for about as
long as they have been domesticated or longer. Certainly it's nothing
new in locale mentioned; simply not what the poster is accustomed to.

--

Edwin Pawlowski wrote:

: That doesn't make them any less edible.


Well, humans are perfectly edible, for that matter. So what?


-- Andy Barss

I agree on the dogs, problem in asian cultures is they don't have that
specialized relationship we Westerners do.

You and I see a part of the family, asians think in terms of food on the
table.

One of the things you notice over there is the lack of dogs on the hoof.





"Edwin Pawlowski" wrote in message
...

"Andrew Barss" wrote in message
...
Edwin Pawlowski wrote:

: "Jon" wrote in message ..
: They also banned dog meat in restaurants for the Olympians! That is a
: sight I will never forget when they had dogs in cages waiting to be
killed
: and served to eat. Very disgusting.
:
: Jon

: What makes dogs disgusting that is so different from cows, pigs, and
Mary's
: little lamb?


Dogs have a specialized relationship to humans as companions, which has
existed apparently since the beginning of biologically modern humans
100,000 years ago.

-- Andy Barss

That doesn't make them any less edible. Horses do work around the
farm/ranch and still end up on the table.

"Andrew Barss" wrote in message
...
Edwin Pawlowski wrote:

: That doesn't make them any less edible.


Well, humans are perfectly edible, for that matter. So what?


-- Andy Barss

They've been eaten too. If it comes down to starving to death or eating
what happens to be available, I'm eating.

"Edwin Pawlowski" wrote

That doesn't make them any less edible. Horses do work around the
farm/ranch and still end up on the table.

.... and, on a long march, dogs will follow right along until it's time for
your dinner, with no need for refrigeration.

DAMHIKT.

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KarlC@ (the obvious)

Andrew Barss wrote:
Edwin Pawlowski wrote:

: That doesn't make them any less edible.


Well, humans are perfectly edible, for that matter. So what?


A Chinese coworker once told me that they think caucasians are strange -
when caucasians see an animal, they're thinking something like "Oh, how
cute.". When a Chinese sees an animal they're wondering how best to
prepare it.

"Edwin Pawlowski" wrote in message
...

"Andrew Barss" wrote in message
...
Edwin Pawlowski wrote:

: That doesn't make them any less edible.


Well, humans are perfectly edible, for that matter. So what?


-- Andy Barss

They've been eaten too. If it comes down to starving to death or eating
what happens to be available, I'm eating.

Reminds me of an old Soldier of Fortune magazine. It had an article on
"people harvesting" in case of national emergency. It advocated wino's
because not only would they be not missed, the wine consumption over the
years would have marinated the meat.

Of course, it was written in fun to rile up the liberal media. They would
rant on and on about the terible SOF magazine. And SOF subscriptions sales
went up everytime the regular media responded to another over the top
article. It was generally believed by most that the liberal reporters never
figured out they were being played with.

On Jul 13, 5:00 pm, "Jay R" wrote:
I agree on the dogs, problem in asian cultures is they don't have that
specialized relationship we Westerners do.

You and I see a part of the family, asians think in terms of food on the
table.

One of the things you notice over there is the lack of dogs on the hoof.

"Edwin Pawlowski" wrote in message

...



"Andrew Barss" wrote in message
...
Edwin Pawlowski wrote:

: "Jon" wrote in message ..
: They also banned dog meat in restaurants for the Olympians! That is a
: sight I will never forget when they had dogs in cages waiting to be
killed
: and served to eat. Very disgusting.
:
: Jon

: What makes dogs disgusting that is so different from cows, pigs, and
Mary's
: little lamb?

Dogs have a specialized relationship to humans as companions, which has
existed apparently since the beginning of biologically modern humans
100,000 years ago.

-- Andy Barss

That doesn't make them any less edible. Horses do work around the
farm/ranch and still end up on the table.

Dogs and children are both regulated.

Robatoy wrote:
....

Four legs good. Two legs bad.

"Tastes like chicken..."

--

On Jul 14, 2:45*am, Lobby Dosser wrote:
On Jul 13, 5:00 pm, "Jay R" wrote:



I agree on the dogs, problem in asian cultures is they don't have that
specialized relationship we Westerners do.

You and I see a part of the family, asians think in terms of food on the
table.

One of the things you notice over there is the lack of dogs on the hoof..

"Edwin Pawlowski" wrote in message

.. .

"Andrew Barss" wrote in message
...
Edwin Pawlowski wrote:

: "Jon" wrote in message ..
: They also banned dog meat in restaurants for the Olympians! *That is a
: sight I will never forget when they had dogs in cages waiting to be
killed
: and served to eat. Very disgusting.
:
: Jon

: What makes dogs disgusting that is so different from cows, pigs, and
Mary's
: little lamb?

Dogs have a specialized relationship to humans as companions, which has
existed apparently since the beginning of biologically modern humans
100,000 years ago.

-- Andy Barss

That doesn't make them any less edible. *Horses do work around the
farm/ranch and still end up on the table.

Dogs and children are both regulated.

Four legs good. Two legs bad.

On Jul 13, 4:37*pm, Andrew Barss wrote:
Edwin Pawlowski wrote:

: That doesn't make them any less edible. *

Well, humans are perfectly edible, for that matter. So what?

* * * * -- Andy Barss

Once there were two canibals hiding in the bushes. A guy walks by.
The jump him and kill him. One starts eating at the head, the other
the feet. The one at the head says, "how are you doing down there?".
The other says, "I'm having a ball". The first canibal says, "You're
eating too fast!!!"

On Jul 14, 9:56*am, "Dave - Parkville, MD"
wrote:
On Jul 13, 4:37*pm, Andrew Barss wrote:

Edwin Pawlowski wrote:

: That doesn't make them any less edible. *

Well, humans are perfectly edible, for that matter. So what?

* * * * -- Andy Barss

Once there were two canibals hiding in the bushes. *A guy walks by.
The jump him and kill him. *One starts eating at the head, the other
the feet. *The one at the head says, "how are you doing down there?".
The other says, "I'm having a ball". *The first canibal says, "You're
eating too fast!!!"

Two canibals overpower a clown and cook him up. One says: "Does this
taste funny to you?"

On Jul 14, 10:43*am, Robatoy wrote:
On Jul 14, 9:56*am, "Dave - Parkville, MD"
wrote:

On Jul 13, 4:37*pm, Andrew Barss wrote:

Edwin Pawlowski wrote:

: That doesn't make them any less edible. *

Well, humans are perfectly edible, for that matter. So what?

* * * * -- Andy Barss

Once there were two canibals hiding in the bushes. *A guy walks by.
The jump him and kill him. *One starts eating at the head, the other
the feet. *The one at the head says, "how are you doing down there?".
The other says, "I'm having a ball". *The first canibal says, "You're
eating too fast!!!"

Two canibals overpower a clown and cook him up. One says: "Does this
taste funny to you?"

WHICH reminds of: Jeffry Dahmer to Loreena Bobbitt: "Are you going to
eat that?"

There is nothing wrong or controversial about eating dogs that are
raised for the meat. This is just like eating cows that people raised
for the meat.

This is controversial if someone eats a dog that is raised in the
family as a pet or as a hunting dog or a guard dog. That would be
like eating a family member or like hurting someone who has helped
you. This also means that we should be very upset if we heard someone
who ate a pig that was raised in that person's family as a pet. On
the other hand, I don't see any reason why I would be upset if someone
eats a dog that is raised for meat.

Dogs being eaten in China are raised for meat. They are not pets.

Jay Chan


On Jul 13, 8:39*am, "Jon" wrote:
Their rubber and plastic parts are made from recycled junk from here mixed
with a bunch of US banned chemicals. *Why do you think they want all of our
recyclable rubber and plastics? *They remelt or alter the formulation and
then sell it to us! *Remember all the kids toys which were recalled due to
numerous problems like lead and other banned chemicals. *Now imagine going
to their country and having to smell that same smell everywhere. *I pity it
may make a few of the foreign athletes a little nauseous. *They also banned
dog meat in restaurants for the Olympians! *That is a sight I will never
forget when they had dogs in cages waiting to be killed and served to eat..
Very disgusting.

Jon

"B A R R Y" wrote in c.com...



wrote:
Geez, I happened to be in HF twice in the last couple of weeks and
boy I pity those folks. The smell is just so bad.

At the bicycle shop, we call that the "Chinese Factory Smell".

It has no equal.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Jay Chan wrote:
: There is nothing wrong or controversial about eating dogs that are
: raised for the meat. This is just like eating cows that people raised
: for the meat.

Nooo, it's really not. Cows were *bread*, as a species, for meat. And to be docile,
not develop binds with people, etc.

Dogs evolved as companions for people, with great emotional attachments to them
(and vice versa).

(And try taking your comment and replacing "cows" with "humans". See how the argument
doesn't hold?)


-- Andy Barss

"Andrew Barss" wrote in message
...

Jay Chan wrote:
: There is nothing wrong or controversial about eating dogs that are
: raised for the meat. This is just like eating cows that people raised
: for the meat.

Nooo, it's really not. Cows were *bread*, as a species, for meat. And to
be docile,
not develop binds with people, etc.

Dogs evolved as companions for people, with great emotional attachments to
them
(and vice versa).

(And try taking your comment and replacing "cows" with "humans". See how
the argument
doesn't hold?)


-- Andy Barss

they might have been bred for it, but certainly aren't bread.

"Jay R" wrote in
news:PGwek.185$kf4.30@trnddc03:

I agree on the dogs, problem in asian cultures is they don't have that
specialized relationship we Westerners do.

In a very real sense, this has to do with food as well. Up until about the
Victorian age, people looked at dogs primarily as working animals, and less
so as pets. During the Victorian era it became a status symbol to have a
non-working dog as a pet. This was a form of conspicuous consumption -
showing off the fact that you had enough wealth (and food) to support an
animal just for the pleasure its company gave you. During this time there
was a great movement towards breeding smaller and smaller dogs as
companions, giving us many of the breeds we have in our homes today.


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at gmail dot com

"Smaug Ichorfang" wrote in message

was a great movement towards breeding smaller and smaller dogs as
companions, giving us many of the breeds we have in our homes today.

Nahhh ... small dogs taste better.

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KarlC@ (the obvious)

Annnnnnnnd they put up less of a fight, and fit on a spit much better.
Cornish dogs.. like the Queen's Corgis?
Those short little legs are a bit more like drum-sticks, eh?