I have a picture of the completed Jakes (lawn) chairs on my index page.
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Am I the only one that couldn't see the pictures?

no the web page is screwed up a bit
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Am I the only one that couldn't see the pictures?

bob kater wrote:
no the web page is screwed up a bit
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Am I the only one that couldn't see the pictures?




It's displaying in Firefox 2.0.0.4, Netscape 8.0 and Opera 9.0.

What browser are you guys using?

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On Jul 16, 6:43 pm, BillinDetroit wrote:
I have a picture of the completed Jakes (lawn) chairs on my index page.http://nmwoodworks.com

Bill

Bill - the chairs look great! Did you wind up using the Impervo on
them? How did you like it? How did you apply it?

Also... how comfortable ARE those chairs compared a garden variety
Adirondack?

Good job, buddy.

Robert

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On Jul 16, 6:43 pm, BillinDetroit wrote:
I have a picture of the completed Jakes (lawn) chairs on my index page.http://nmwoodworks.com

Bill

Bill - the chairs look great! Did you wind up using the Impervo on
them? How did you like it? How did you apply it?

Yes ... that's the Impervo. Once I got a sense for thinning it, it
sprayed very nicely ... and the Wagner HVLP worked great. The included
viscosity cup was pretty useless with the Killz primer, so I didn't even
get it out with the Impervo.

I've done a TINY bit of spraying in the past and the Wagner would keep a
wet line just about as fast as I could move my arm. The Impervo leveled
out great and has since dried to a a very nice hardness.

I'm going to try the Coronado next time as the Impervo was $12 more per
gallon and these chairs take a surprising amount of paint.



Also... how comfortable ARE those chairs compared a garden variety
Adirondack?

Don't have much time in a garden variety Adirondack, but both the seat
curvature and the back curvature make for some downright pleasant
sitting in the Jakes Chair. At 27", the seat is wide enough to allow for
a few extra dumplings or a couple of squirmy grandkids.

I can say thins, though ... a neighbor came over, sat in one before
painting and ordered two. That's pretty comfortable in my book!

Bill

Good job, buddy.

Robert



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bob kater wrote:
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Am I the only one that couldn't see the pictures?




It's displaying in Firefox 2.0.0.4, Netscape 8.0 and Opera 9.0.

What browser are you guys using?

Bill


I tried IE6 last night at home and it wasn't working but when I got into
work this morning using the same browser, it worked.

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Very cool and at first I thought that they were made of something like TREX.
This past week I saw similar chairs made out of the man made material in
bright colors like you chairs. Like regular TREX that comes in natural
earth tone colors, the colors were all the way through the material. They
were a in red, green, blue , yellow , brown. All held together with
stainless steel screws. Very comfortable and sturdy. Have you seen the man
made material in those colors?

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bob kater wrote:
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Am I the only one that couldn't see the pictures?


It's displaying in Firefox 2.0.0.4, Netscape 8.0 and Opera 9.0.

What browser are you guys using?

Bill


I tried IE6 last night at home and it wasn't working but when I got into
work this morning using the same browser, it worked.


That's a head-scratcher -- I didn't make any changes in that time. I
know that the shopping cart database was lagging last night. Possibly
the ISP is enlarging again and you just caught them at an awkward moment.

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Very cool and at first I thought that they were made of something like TREX.
This past week I saw similar chairs made out of the man made material in
bright colors like you chairs. Like regular TREX that comes in natural
earth tone colors, the colors were all the way through the material. They
were a in red, green, blue , yellow , brown. All held together with
stainless steel screws. Very comfortable and sturdy. Have you seen the man
made material in those colors?


Thanks Leon.

No, I haven't seen the TREX. I just wanted something bright that would
stand out and this color was on the chip chart. I'm going to make a
couple more chairs in a couple weeks and then take a shot at designing a
table to go with them. I've got a couple ideas kicking around in the old
bean. I think I can make the whole set very appealing.

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Leon wrote:


Very cool and at first I thought that they were made of something like
TREX. This past week I saw similar chairs made out of the man made
material in bright colors like you chairs. Like regular TREX that comes
in natural earth tone colors, the colors were all the way through the
material. They were a in red, green, blue , yellow , brown. All held
together with stainless steel screws. Very comfortable and sturdy. Have
you seen the man made material in those colors?
Thanks Leon.

No, I haven't seen the TREX. I just wanted something bright that would
stand out and this color was on the chip chart. I'm going to make a couple
more chairs in a couple weeks and then take a shot at designing a table to
go with them. I've got a couple ideas kicking around in the old bean. I
think I can make the whole set very appealing.

Bill

The bright colors are attractive. I am not sure what I saw was actually
TREX but it was some kind of product like that. I think the color going all
the way through certainly world have its advantages in longetivity and
initial built time.

On Jul 18, 1:34 am, BillinDetroit wrote:

No, I haven't seen the TREX. I just wanted something bright that would stand out and this color was on the chip chart. I'm going to make a couple more chairs in a couple weeks and then take a shot at designing a
table to go with them. I've got a couple ideas kicking around in the old bean. I think I can make the whole set very appealing.

You will love the cost of Impervo or Corotile if you take a look at
the board foot price of TREX and its cousins. OUCH!

I had an acquintance that used ot build decks and he used his cutoffs
from a couple of decks to make some furniture. It worked well for
backs and seats, but for anything that required it to be turned on
edge (like sides, chair backs, legs, etc.) he said it wasn't
satisfactory as it wasn't rigid enough. And the hotter the weather
was, the less rigid the chairs became.

Just my 0.02.

Robert

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On Jul 18, 1:34 am, BillinDetroit wrote:

No, I haven't seen the TREX. I just wanted something bright that would stand out and this color was on the chip chart. I'm going to make a couple more chairs in a couple weeks and then take a shot at designing a
table to go with them. I've got a couple ideas kicking around in the old bean. I think I can make the whole set very appealing.

You will love the cost of Impervo or Corotile if you take a look at
the board foot price of TREX and its cousins. OUCH!

I had an acquintance that used ot build decks and he used his cutoffs
from a couple of decks to make some furniture. It worked well for
backs and seats, but for anything that required it to be turned on
edge (like sides, chair backs, legs, etc.) he said it wasn't
satisfactory as it wasn't rigid enough. And the hotter the weather
was, the less rigid the chairs became.

But if you have an invasive grass it makes great flower bed edging.

Mark

On Jul 19, 4:26 pm, Markem wrote:


But if you have an invasive grass it makes great flower bed edging.

Mark

Hah! Never even thought of that. I'll bet it does. Think I'm gonna
tuck that one away.

Robert

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On Jul 18, 1:34 am, BillinDetroit wrote:

No, I haven't seen the TREX. I just wanted something bright that would stand out and this color was on the chip chart. I'm going to make a couple more chairs in a couple weeks and then take a shot at designing a
table to go with them. I've got a couple ideas kicking around in the old bean. I think I can make the whole set very appealing.

You will love the cost of Impervo or Corotile if you take a look at
the board foot price of TREX and its cousins. OUCH!

I had an acquintance that used ot build decks and he used his cutoffs
from a couple of decks to make some furniture. It worked well for
backs and seats, but for anything that required it to be turned on
edge (like sides, chair backs, legs, etc.) he said it wasn't
satisfactory as it wasn't rigid enough. And the hotter the weather
was, the less rigid the chairs became.

Just my 0.02.

Robert


I was afraid that, being so bright, I'd run into flack over the color
.... but a couple of people have spontaneously remarked that this is a
great color choice for such furniture.

The Impervex dried beautifully. Smooth, glossy and hard as rock (well,
whats a Friday morning without a little hyperbole?). Long term, I think
it might prove to be a sound choice. Even though just a single gallon of
the stuff makes my wallet bleed. :-)

One thing is certain: I'm convinced that HVLP is the ONLY way to go on a
project like this. I can easily see it taking an hour or more, per piece
(4) / per coat (4) to paint this with a brush. And it is unlikely that,
16+ hours later, I would have as high quality of finish as I got in
about 5 minutes per coat / per part with the el-cheapo Wagner HVLP gun.

--------- another convert!

Bill

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On Jul 20, 12:25 am, BillinDetroit wrote:

I was afraid that, being so bright, I'd run into flack over the color
... but a couple of people have spontaneously remarked that this is a
great color choice for such furniture.

A couple of summers ago I was at Lake Tahoe, and on one of their
observation areas (for the spectacular sunsets) they had a lot of wood
deck chairs and tables. They didn't mix up the colors when setting
out the pieces, so it didn't look trashy. They had medium blue,
white, red, yellow and dark green. Buddy, they looked great!

The Impervex dried beautifully. Smooth, glossy and hard as rock (well, whats a Friday morning without a little hyperbole?). Long term, I think it might prove to be a sound choice. Even though just a single gallon of the stuff makes my wallet bleed. :-)

Good material is always expensive. BUT, hopefully (fingers crossed
here!) the extra $$ is worth it. I look at any coating within these
four parameters:

1) ease of application
2) durability
3) adhesion of susequent coats of the same material
4) cost

But being in "bidniss" I like things that hit #4 pretty hard, too. If
you want, I can get the Corotile industrial base (they sell it on
quarts, not just gallons) numbers for you as it is a little cheaper
than the Impervo.

If would like, we can compare mix notes and maybe I can help you make
the Impervo really sing with some thinning and hardening mixes.

One thing is certain: I'm convinced that HVLP is the ONLY way to go on a project like this. I can easily see it taking an hour or more, per piece (4) / per coat (4) to paint this with a brush. And it is unlikely that, 16+ hours later, I would have as high quality of finish as I got in about 5 minutes per coat / per part with the el-cheapo Wagner HVLP gun.

Now you're on the right track! Quality and speed are the very essence
of successful manufacturing. And take my word for it; you will just
get better and faster at application of the finish.

I have some previous posts on how to set up the HVLP gun, and if you
are interested they are still in the archives.

Good for you!

Robert

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If would like, we can compare mix notes and maybe I can help you make
the Impervo really sing with some thinning and hardening mixes.


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On Jul 20, 10:23 pm, BillinDetroit wrote:

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Bill... the email name is a holdover from having been harvested
(you've seen it here, no doubt) by a bot and have my real address
smeared around. The downside of the internet I guess.

Anyway, catch me at



Take out "thegarbage" and "thetrash" and you will have the correct
email address. If you still have problems, ping me here and I can hit
you back on your website.

Robert

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Bill... the email name is a holdover from having been harvested
(you've seen it here, no doubt) by a bot and have my real address
smeared around. The downside of the internet I guess.

Anyway, catch me at



Take out "thegarbage" and "thetrash" and you will have the correct
email address. If you still have problems, ping me here and I can hit
you back on your website.

Robert



My bad, Robert. I already HAD your good address ... but managed to
overlook it. I'll take another crack at it in a few minutes.

Bill


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One thing is certain: I'm convinced that HVLP is the ONLY way to go on a
project like this. I can easily see it taking an hour or more, per piece
(4) / per coat (4) to paint this with a brush. And it is unlikely that,
16+ hours later, I would have as high quality of finish as I got in about
5 minutes per coat / per part with the el-cheapo Wagner HVLP gun.


A conventional gun would do the project in the same time since it's all
about getting the right amount of coverage in each coat, but it would
certainly create more overspray... waste. At the prices of some paints (as
you experienced), waste is a very real consideration. Either beats the tar
out of brushing.

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Mike Marlow wrote:
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One thing is certain: I'm convinced that HVLP is the ONLY way to go on a
project like this. I can easily see it taking an hour or more, per piece
(4) / per coat (4) to paint this with a brush. And it is unlikely that,
16+ hours later, I would have as high quality of finish as I got in about
5 minutes per coat / per part with the el-cheapo Wagner HVLP gun.


A conventional gun would do the project in the same time since it's all
about getting the right amount of coverage in each coat, but it would
certainly create more overspray... waste. At the prices of some paints (as
you experienced), waste is a very real consideration. Either beats the tar
out of brushing.


I didn't mean to imply that HVLP is the only way to spray ... but that
spraying is a wonderful way to fly.

My first concern, even above the cost of the paint, is that I don't own
a compressor. The HVLP came with its own air supply. Bonus.

That hurdle overcome, the speed of application is a revelation ... I
won't be brushing anymore if I can help it.

Bill

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