Anyone ever try this? The CFM rating is too high to believe for
something so small...

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=36853

It almost looks exactly like this penn state one:
http://www.pennstateind.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?
Screen=PROD&Store_Code=PSI&Product_Code=DC5-5&Category_Code=DC5


I wanted this Penn State DC3-1M since it has a noise spec,
but it's out of stock:
http://www.pennstateind.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?
Screen=PROD&Store_Code=PSI&Product_Code=DC3-1M&Category_Code=DC3

The intended use for now is to create negative pressure in a room to
get rid of construction dust, but it should be useful for future
woodworking projects..


ken

Ken -

I also think that this one has a motor that spins at 3450 or better, so that
means it is going to be one loud unit.... Do check this out on other DC's
too. Lower motor speed is MUCH easier on the ears.

John Moorhead
"Ken Yee" wrote in message
. 47.166...
Anyone ever try this? The CFM rating is too high to believe for
something so small...

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=36853

It almost looks exactly like this penn state one:
http://www.pennstateind.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?
Screen=PROD&Store_Code=PSI&Product_Code=DC5-5&Category_Code=DC5


I wanted this Penn State DC3-1M since it has a noise spec,
but it's out of stock:
http://www.pennstateind.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?
Screen=PROD&Store_Code=PSI&Product_Code=DC3-1M&Category_Code=DC3

The intended use for now is to create negative pressure in a room to
get rid of construction dust, but it should be useful for future
woodworking projects..


ken

"Ken Yee" wrote in message
. 47.166...
Anyone ever try this? The CFM rating is too high to believe for
something so small...

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=36853


You new around here?
How about this one?
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=45378
I have one, many here do, and it is a steal at the sale price.
Greg

"Greg O" wrote in news:116oka82ovmmd10
@corp.supernews.com:

You new around here?
How about this one?
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=45378

I've read lots of comments on the great cheap HF brad nailers, but
I don't remember reading a thread on their cheap dust collectors :-)
That one is bloody heavy at 145 lbs.

Any comments on the AC1000 - 1000 CFM Air Cleaner at Penn State?
http://www.pennstateind.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?
Screen=PROD&Product_Code=AC1000&Category_Code=
It's a long story, but also I'm trying to create negative pressure in
a room to keep dust from entering a neighbor's apartment through
some hole we can't find, so I was thinking of sticking a high CFM
dust collector in a window. Yeah, city life is lame :-P


ken

"Ken Yee" wrote in message
. 47.166...
"Greg O" wrote in news:116oka82ovmmd10
@corp.supernews.com:

You new around here?
How about this one?
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=45378

I've read lots of comments on the great cheap HF brad nailers, but
I don't remember reading a thread on their cheap dust collectors :-)
That one is bloody heavy at 145 lbs.

Any comments on the AC1000 - 1000 CFM Air Cleaner at Penn State?
http://www.pennstateind.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?
Screen=PROD&Product_Code=AC1000&Category_Code=
It's a long story, but also I'm trying to create negative pressure in
a room to keep dust from entering a neighbor's apartment through
some hole we can't find, so I was thinking of sticking a high CFM
dust collector in a window. Yeah, city life is lame :-P


ken

I think you better re-engineer you idea!
Are you doing woodworking in an apartment? If so dust collection at the
source is your answer.
Greg

"Greg O" wrote in message
...

"Ken Yee" wrote in message
. 47.166...
Anyone ever try this? The CFM rating is too high to believe for
something so small...

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=36853


You new around here?
How about this one?
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=45378
I have one, many here do, and it is a steal at the sale price.
Greg
I've been dissatisfied with my 1.5hp 16a DC; so maybe I will try this 2hp
14a unit.
Not only is it more powerful, but it uses less power!

"toller" wrote in message
...

I've been dissatisfied with my 1.5hp 16a DC; so maybe I will try this
2hp
14a unit.
Not only is it more powerful, but it uses less power!


It has to be better, it is 2 HP!! ;-)

Truthfully I do have the HF 2(?) HP dust collector, and am quite satisfied
with it. I am sure they are stretching the HP claim a bit though. It is
plenty for most wood dorkers with only 2-3 machines.
Greg

"Greg O" wrote in news:116opd7pe66ttf1
@corp.supernews.com:

I think you better re-engineer you idea!
Are you doing woodworking in an apartment? If so dust collection at the
source is your answer.

Woodworking and renovations. The renovations involved yanking off
disgusting horsehair plaster (imagine a dust bomb...a huge dust bomb)-:
Need something big enough to pump the stuff outside and also filter it
before it gets outside so I don't turn the neighborhood into a dust bomb...


ken

"Ken Yee" wrote in message
. 47.166...

The intended use for now is to create negative pressure in a room to
get rid of construction dust, but it should be useful for future
woodworking projects..

I've worked in a P3 suite and that was setup for negative pressure. Didn't
want the nasty things floating out...

I think you want what's essentially a blower - since you'll need to vent the
exhaust outside.
If that's your approach - you're just buying the unit for it's blower, then
it's worth a shot.

But would you mount the whole unit outside and drag the 4" piping inside?
Have you thought about a slew of box window fans directed outward?

Another approach might be to circulate the snot out'a the air in the room -
and get it into a cleaner before it could leak out.

"patrick conroy" wrote in
news
Another approach might be to circulate the snot out'a the air in the
room - and get it into a cleaner before it could leak out.

That's what I'm thinking now as well. Or stick an air cleaner
in a window where an A/C goes. It should provide enough ventilation
unless the filters clog too quickly and we can use it for cleanup
later as well as we sweep up the thick layer of dust everywhere :-P

I'm assuming the building inspectors won't look too kindly on
my blowing renovation dust all over the neighborhood, so the
exhaust would have to be filtered in some way. :-)


thanks,

ken

On Tue, 26 Apr 2005 02:24:36 +0000, the inscrutable Ken Yee
spake:

"patrick conroy" wrote in
news
Another approach might be to circulate the snot out'a the air in the
room - and get it into a cleaner before it could leak out.

That's what I'm thinking now as well. Or stick an air cleaner
in a window where an A/C goes. It should provide enough ventilation
unless the filters clog too quickly and we can use it for cleanup
later as well as we sweep up the thick layer of dust everywhere :-P

I'd be willing to bet they'd fill up much too quickly.


I'm assuming the building inspectors won't look too kindly on
my blowing renovation dust all over the neighborhood, so the
exhaust would have to be filtered in some way. :-)

True.

I'd try a pair or more of high-capacity dust collectors, perhaps
with water-filled garbage can primary cyclone filters. Put them
outside the building, run the hoses inside, turn 'em on, and let them
suck the dust out as they pull fresh air in the open doors.


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On Mon, 25 Apr 2005 04:09:04 GMT, "toller" wrote:


"Greg O" wrote in message
...

"Ken Yee" wrote in message
. 47.166...
Anyone ever try this? The CFM rating is too high to believe for
something so small...

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=36853


You new around here?
How about this one?
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=45378
I have one, many here do, and it is a steal at the sale price.
Greg
I've been dissatisfied with my 1.5hp 16a DC; so maybe I will try this 2hp
14a unit.
Not only is it more powerful, but it uses less power!


Don't fool yourself. If the power going in is lower, the power coming
out is lower. The only way a lower HP unit could draw more AC power
would be if it's efficiency was a lot lower. That difference in power
woould have to show up as heat -- a LOT of heat. It's much more
likely that HF is inflating their HP rating.

Regards,
Ed

On Fri, 29 Apr 2005 18:20:11 -0500, the inscrutable Ed Bailen
spake:

On Mon, 25 Apr 2005 04:09:04 GMT, "toller" wrote:

I've been dissatisfied with my 1.5hp 16a DC; so maybe I will try this 2hp
14a unit.
Not only is it more powerful, but it uses less power!


Don't fool yourself. If the power going in is lower, the power coming

Methinks Toller was pulling your leg, Ed. Google "define:facetious"
Either that or one use Manchurian wild ponies and the other a smaller
protoequus.

out is lower. The only way a lower HP unit could draw more AC power
would be if it's efficiency was a lot lower. That difference in power
woould have to show up as heat -- a LOT of heat. It's much more
likely that HF is inflating their HP rating.

According to HF customer service (right) reps, they take the
manufacturer's figures for all electricals. When I disputed one, they
asked ME to provide proof that it was not as stated so they could give
it to the manufacturer. That ain't gonna happen, so in the meantime,
just call 'em "Searz Horsies."


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