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Here's how I replicated the OFF button in a remote kill switch.

Materials: Doorbell wire
Surface mount switch box
Momentary contact push switch (works like a doorbell button)
Magnet
cover plate for switch box
Grommet for switch box
Tools Screwdriver
fine tip soldering pencil (I like the butane powered ones for
working around electronics)
Needle nose pliers


Procedu (Pictures on ABPW)

TURN OFF LATHE AND UNPLUG IT. WAIT 5 MINUTES FOR THE CAPACITOR TO
DISCHARGE.

Loosen the four screws holding the controls panel. Pull outward and
let it hang upside down. The ribbon wire from the control buttons come
up between the electronic boards and connect via a blue connector to
the upper board. Pull the blue connector off. I checked which two
leads were connected by pushing the OFF button while checking with an
ohmmeter. It was the two rightmost leads.

Drill a small hole in what will be the left lower side of the control
panel. Feed in doorbell wire, tie a knot in it for strain relief,
leaving enough to reach the pins going into the blue connector. Strip
1/4 inch from the wires, bend into a "j" shape and tin with solder.

Hook one j around the base of the first pin, crimp it tightly with the
needle schnozzle pliers and solder it with the fine tip soldering
pencil with just a dab of solder on the tip of the pencil. Repeat for
the second pin. Make sure no solder or wire touches another pin.

Replace the blue connector, replace the panel and tighten screws.

Drill a hole in the end of the receptacle box for a grommet (not
necessary if you use a plastic box). Attach a magnet to the bottom.
I used a plain metal outlet cover and drilled a hole for the push
button switch. The switch I used was a left over door switch for a
hardwired alarm system. On top of the switch I epoxied a red painted
knob.

Insert the grommet in it's hole, feed through the wire, knot it for
strain relief and attach wires to push switch. Assemble and test.

When I tested mine, I turned the lathe power switch on and let it boot
up. Then I pushed the OFF button (while the lathe was stopped) and got
the burble sound. Then I pushed the red button and got the same sound.
Sounded good so far. Then I pushed the on button and got a sound but
the spindle did not turn. Instant panic. Then remembered I had left
the spindle lock engaged. Tried again and it ran, pushed the remote
button and it stopped.

Notes: I will replace the doorbell wire with stranded wire like small
lamp wire for flexibility and abrasion resistance, other than the
portion soldered to the pins. These need to be single conductor.

DISCLAIMER: Doing this may void the warranty. If the wires are not
secure they may come loose and create havoc in the control panel.
Don't blame me if your lathe explodes, your shop burns down, or your
wife leaves you. However I am happy with my red button.

Now for an electronic brake that slows it down when you push the red
button....
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Cochran, GA

Four is certainly an odd number of
arms for a man to have.




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On Sat, 23 Feb 2008 08:57:19 -0500, Gerald Ross wrote:

well, I saved this as a txt file until I get the nerve up.. might be just about
the time the warranty expires..lol


Here's how I replicated the OFF button in a remote kill switch.

Materials: Doorbell wire
Surface mount switch box
Momentary contact push switch (works like a doorbell button)
Magnet
cover plate for switch box
Grommet for switch box
Tools Screwdriver
fine tip soldering pencil (I like the butane powered ones for
working around electronics)
Needle nose pliers


Procedu (Pictures on ABPW)

TURN OFF LATHE AND UNPLUG IT. WAIT 5 MINUTES FOR THE CAPACITOR TO
DISCHARGE.

Loosen the four screws holding the controls panel. Pull outward and
let it hang upside down. The ribbon wire from the control buttons come
up between the electronic boards and connect via a blue connector to
the upper board. Pull the blue connector off. I checked which two
leads were connected by pushing the OFF button while checking with an
ohmmeter. It was the two rightmost leads.

Drill a small hole in what will be the left lower side of the control
panel. Feed in doorbell wire, tie a knot in it for strain relief,
leaving enough to reach the pins going into the blue connector. Strip
1/4 inch from the wires, bend into a "j" shape and tin with solder.

Hook one j around the base of the first pin, crimp it tightly with the
needle schnozzle pliers and solder it with the fine tip soldering
pencil with just a dab of solder on the tip of the pencil. Repeat for
the second pin. Make sure no solder or wire touches another pin.

Replace the blue connector, replace the panel and tighten screws.

Drill a hole in the end of the receptacle box for a grommet (not
necessary if you use a plastic box). Attach a magnet to the bottom.
I used a plain metal outlet cover and drilled a hole for the push
button switch. The switch I used was a left over door switch for a
hardwired alarm system. On top of the switch I epoxied a red painted
knob.

Insert the grommet in it's hole, feed through the wire, knot it for
strain relief and attach wires to push switch. Assemble and test.

When I tested mine, I turned the lathe power switch on and let it boot
up. Then I pushed the OFF button (while the lathe was stopped) and got
the burble sound. Then I pushed the red button and got the same sound.
Sounded good so far. Then I pushed the on button and got a sound but
the spindle did not turn. Instant panic. Then remembered I had left
the spindle lock engaged. Tried again and it ran, pushed the remote
button and it stopped.

Notes: I will replace the doorbell wire with stranded wire like small
lamp wire for flexibility and abrasion resistance, other than the
portion soldered to the pins. These need to be single conductor.

DISCLAIMER: Doing this may void the warranty. If the wires are not
secure they may come loose and create havoc in the control panel.
Don't blame me if your lathe explodes, your shop burns down, or your
wife leaves you. However I am happy with my red button.

Now for an electronic brake that slows it down when you push the red
button....



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Gerald,
Do you have any idea if the stop button wiring is the same on a DVR 3000?
John Wirth
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Here's how I replicated the OFF button in a remote kill switch.

Materials: Doorbell wire
Surface mount switch box
Momentary contact push switch (works like a doorbell button)
Magnet
cover plate for switch box
Grommet for switch box
Tools Screwdriver
fine tip soldering pencil (I like the butane powered ones for
working around electronics)
Needle nose pliers


Procedu (Pictures on ABPW)

TURN OFF LATHE AND UNPLUG IT. WAIT 5 MINUTES FOR THE CAPACITOR TO
DISCHARGE.

Loosen the four screws holding the controls panel. Pull outward and let it
hang upside down. The ribbon wire from the control buttons come up between
the electronic boards and connect via a blue connector to the upper board.
Pull the blue connector off. I checked which two leads were connected by
pushing the OFF button while checking with an ohmmeter. It was the two
rightmost leads.

Drill a small hole in what will be the left lower side of the control
panel. Feed in doorbell wire, tie a knot in it for strain relief, leaving
enough to reach the pins going into the blue connector. Strip 1/4 inch
from the wires, bend into a "j" shape and tin with solder.

Hook one j around the base of the first pin, crimp it tightly with the
needle schnozzle pliers and solder it with the fine tip soldering pencil
with just a dab of solder on the tip of the pencil. Repeat for the second
pin. Make sure no solder or wire touches another pin.

Replace the blue connector, replace the panel and tighten screws.

Drill a hole in the end of the receptacle box for a grommet (not necessary
if you use a plastic box). Attach a magnet to the bottom.
I used a plain metal outlet cover and drilled a hole for the push button
switch. The switch I used was a left over door switch for a hardwired
alarm system. On top of the switch I epoxied a red painted knob.

Insert the grommet in it's hole, feed through the wire, knot it for strain
relief and attach wires to push switch. Assemble and test.

When I tested mine, I turned the lathe power switch on and let it boot up.
Then I pushed the OFF button (while the lathe was stopped) and got the
burble sound. Then I pushed the red button and got the same sound. Sounded
good so far. Then I pushed the on button and got a sound but the spindle
did not turn. Instant panic. Then remembered I had left the spindle lock
engaged. Tried again and it ran, pushed the remote button and it stopped.

Notes: I will replace the doorbell wire with stranded wire like small lamp
wire for flexibility and abrasion resistance, other than the portion
soldered to the pins. These need to be single conductor.

DISCLAIMER: Doing this may void the warranty. If the wires are not secure
they may come loose and create havoc in the control panel. Don't blame me
if your lathe explodes, your shop burns down, or your wife leaves you.
However I am happy with my red button.

Now for an electronic brake that slows it down when you push the red
button....
--
Gerald Ross
Cochran, GA

Four is certainly an odd number of
arms for a man to have.






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John Wirth wrote:
Gerald,
Do you have any idea if the stop button wiring is the same on a DVR 3000?
John Wirth
"Gerald Ross" wrote in message
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Here's how I replicated the OFF button in a remote kill switch.

I have never seen a 3000 up close. Does it have similar controls, such
as start, stop, esc, speed up, speed down? If it has an off button,
you could probably trace and see which wires are "connected" when you
push the off button.

--
Gerald Ross
Cochran, GA






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Thanks Gerald, I have a friend who has an XP so I'll be able to compare the
control panels...then get brave and forge ahead with a meter.

"Gerald Ross" wrote in message
...
John Wirth wrote:
Gerald,
Do you have any idea if the stop button wiring is the same on a DVR 3000?
John Wirth
"Gerald Ross" wrote in message
. ..
Here's how I replicated the OFF button in a remote kill switch.

I have never seen a 3000 up close. Does it have similar controls, such as
start, stop, esc, speed up, speed down? If it has an off button, you could
probably trace and see which wires are "connected" when you push the off
button.

--
Gerald Ross
Cochran, GA










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Are you THE John Wirth whose picture I see in a catalog?
To check the leads in the blue connector I had to make two pins to fit
inside the openings. I started with some a little bigger and sanded
them down on my 1 inch belt sander to the approximate size of the pins
on the connector.

Good luck with your tinkering.

It would have been nice if Nova had put a jack on the control panel
box attached to these leads. Then they could have sold an optional
remote button which would just have plugged in.

John Wirth wrote:
Thanks Gerald, I have a friend who has an XP so I'll be able to compare the
control panels...then get brave and forge ahead with a meter.

"Gerald Ross" wrote in message
...
John Wirth wrote:
Gerald,
Do you have any idea if the stop button wiring is the same on a DVR 3000?
John Wirth
"Gerald Ross" wrote in message
. ..
Here's how I replicated the OFF button in a remote kill switch.

I have never seen a 3000 up close. Does it have similar controls, such as
start, stop, esc, speed up, speed down? If it has an off button, you could
probably trace and see which wires are "connected" when you push the off
button.

--
Gerald Ross
Cochran, GA










--
Gerald Ross
Cochran, GA

Honesty is the best policy, but
insanity is a better defense.




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On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 04:32:11 -0500, Gerald Ross wrote:

It would have been nice if Nova had put a jack on the control panel
box attached to these leads. Then they could have sold an optional
remote button which would just have plugged in.


You're reading my mind (again) Gerald..

last night I was thinking how bad I might screw things up if I made an adapter
to plug in a duplicate control panel in... with 5 or 6 feet of wire and a
magnet, even..
I would have paid for that option, for sure..


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Gerald Ross wrote:
Here's how I replicated the OFF button in a remote kill switch.


Somewhere in amongst the messages on the MSN Nova Owners group site
(http://groups.msn.com/NovaOwners/messages.msnw) there's a couple of
posts from Walter Ahlgrim describing how he created a wired remote which
had Start, Stop, Speed up and Speed down.

There doesn't seem to be a decent search facility on the site so you may
have to page through the messages until you find it.

The circuit diagram can be seen in this folder -
http://www.msnusers.com/NovaOwners/d...econtrols.msnw

You probably need to join the group to see the messages

I've created one myself which also has a remote stop daisy-chained off it.
I made a post describing my remote here -
http://www.ukworkshop.co.uk/forums/v...ic.php?t=18571
The numbers on the paper in the 2nd photo refer to the numbers in the
original circuit diagram


Hope this is of some use

Duncan
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Duncan Hoyle wrote:
Gerald Ross wrote:
Here's how I replicated the OFF button in a remote kill switch.


Somewhere in amongst the messages on the MSN Nova Owners group site
(http://groups.msn.com/NovaOwners/messages.msnw) there's a couple of
posts from Walter Ahlgrim describing how he created a wired remote which
had Start, Stop, Speed up and Speed down.

There doesn't seem to be a decent search facility on the site so you may
have to page through the messages until you find it.

The circuit diagram can be seen in this folder -
http://www.msnusers.com/NovaOwners/d...econtrols.msnw

You probably need to join the group to see the messages

I've created one myself which also has a remote stop daisy-chained off it.
I made a post describing my remote here -
http://www.ukworkshop.co.uk/forums/v...ic.php?t=18571
The numbers on the paper in the 2nd photo refer to the numbers in the
original circuit diagram


Hope this is of some use

Duncan


Thanks. Just like me to reinvent the wheel.

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"Gerald Ross" wrote in message
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Are you THE John Wirth whose picture I see in a catalog?


nooo...sorry...That's some guy that had a better idea than I did about how
to make a living...and we just happen to have the same (uncommon) name.

To check the leads in the blue connector I had to make two pins to fit
inside the openings. I started with some a little bigger and sanded them
down on my 1 inch belt sander to the approximate size of the pins on the
connector.

Good luck with your tinkering.

It would have been nice if Nova had put a jack on the control panel box
attached to these leads. Then they could have sold an optional remote
button which would just have plugged in.


They could have made some more money off of me too with that option.

John Wirth wrote:
Thanks Gerald, I have a friend who has an XP so I'll be able to compare
the control panels...then get brave and forge ahead with a meter.

"Gerald Ross" wrote in message
...
John Wirth wrote:
Gerald,
Do you have any idea if the stop button wiring is the same on a DVR
3000?
John Wirth
"Gerald Ross" wrote in message
. ..
Here's how I replicated the OFF button in a remote kill switch.

I have never seen a 3000 up close. Does it have similar controls, such
as start, stop, esc, speed up, speed down? If it has an off button, you
could probably trace and see which wires are "connected" when you push
the off button.

--
Gerald Ross
Cochran, GA










--
Gerald Ross
Cochran, GA

Honesty is the best policy, but
insanity is a better defense.






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