I have been turning for several years on a Oneway 1224 and I am considering moving up to a larger lathe. The two that I am considering the most is a Oneway 2436 with the 44" outboard setup or the VB-36 with tail stock setup. What do you guys think? Which is more user friendly? Which one is easier to get parts for, etc? Thanks

If you are in North America I would say the Oneway is the answer for
all of your questions.
DW

Lawrence Day wrote:
I have been turning for several years on a Oneway 1224 and I am
considering moving up to a larger lathe. The two that I am considering
the most is a Oneway 2436 with the 44" outboard setup or the VB-36 with
tail stock setup. What do you guys think? Which is more user
friendly? Which one is easier to get parts for, etc? Thanks

A little commercial announcement here -- have you considered a Stubby?
And if not, why?

Bill

David Wade wrote:
If you are in North America I would say the Oneway is the answer for
all of your questions.
DW

Lawrence Day wrote:
I have been turning for several years on a Oneway 1224 and I am
considering moving up to a larger lathe. The two that I am
considering the most is a Oneway 2436 with the 44" outboard setup or
the VB-36 with tail stock setup. What do you guys think? Which is
more user friendly? Which one is easier to get parts for, etc? Thanks

Hi Lawrence

I was wondering why you'd consider anything other than a Oneway, it's
the best there is. IMO, and no I don't sell them or have any financial
interest in them.

Have fun and take care
Leo Van Der Loo



On May 20, 1:24 am, "Lawrence Day" wrote:
I have been turning for several years on a Oneway 1224 and I am considering moving up to a larger lathe. The two that I am considering the most is a Oneway 2436 with the 44" outboard setup or the VB-36 with tail stock setup. What do you guys think? Which is more user friendly? Which one is easier to get parts for, etc? Thanks

I just got my new Craft Supplies catalogue, and saw the info on the
new Robust lathe. Sliding headstock, 2 or 3 hp motor, 25 inch diameter
turnings, and a few other amenities. It is the only lathe that I would
consider getting, and giving up the PM for. The sliding headstock
gives you the best of a bowl lathe, and a spindle lathe. No need to go
outboard. I never appreciate the sliding headstock feature until I do
a demo on a lathe that doesn't have it. No more leaning over the bed
of the lathe to turn bowls, or boxes.
robo hippy

On May 20, 9:49 am, "
wrote:
Hi Lawrence

I was wondering why you'd consider anything other than a Oneway, it's
the best there is. IMO, and no I don't sell them or have any financial
interest in them.

Have fun and take care
Leo Van Der Loo

On May 20, 1:24 am, "Lawrence Day" wrote:

I have been turning for several years on a Oneway 1224 and I am considering moving up to a larger lathe. The two that I am considering the most is a Oneway 2436 with the 44" outboard setup or the VB-36 with tail stock setup. What do you guys think? Which is more user friendly? Which one is easier to get parts for, etc? Thanks

if your intent is to mostly turn outboard on the oneway, you probably should
look at the stubby also - there is a real advantage to being able to start
with a tailstock against the piece, or to start between centers and adjust a
bit as you go - turning outboard doesn't let you do either. There are some
other large capacity lathes if you hunt around for them.
the other note, is that if you are mostly turning outboard, why buy a
oneway? get something that does't have the ways and stuff that you won't be
using


"Lawrence Day" wrote in message
...
I have been turning for several years on a Oneway 1224 and I am considering
moving up to a larger lathe. The two that I am considering the most is a
Oneway 2436 with the 44" outboard setup or the VB-36 with tail stock setup.
What do you guys think? Which is more user friendly? Which one is easier
to get parts for, etc? Thanks



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I looked at the specs on the Stubby but it appears (unless I'm reading
wrong) that the Stubby 750 will not handle a piece that is 20+ inches in
diameter and 20+ inches long.


"Bill Rubenstein" wrote in message
...
A little commercial announcement here -- have you considered a Stubby? And
if not, why?

Bill

David Wade wrote:
If you are in North America I would say the Oneway is the answer for all
of your questions.
DW

Lawrence Day wrote:
I have been turning for several years on a Oneway 1224 and I am
considering moving up to a larger lathe. The two that I am considering
the most is a Oneway 2436 with the 44" outboard setup or the VB-36 with
tail stock setup. What do you guys think? Which is more user friendly?
Which one is easier to get parts for, etc? Thanks

I will most likely be turning over the bed to start (a 24" diameter blank is
pretty large, the VB has a 26" capacity with the tailstock attached and the
Oneway has a 24" capacity over the ways) but like the idea of a large
outboard area to do larger pieces as my experience grows with larger work.

One of my concerns with the Stubby and VB is getting service/parts in North
America. I understand that the Stubby was not imported for several years
and know little about the VB's track record on service/parts availability


"William Noble" wrote in message
.. .
if your intent is to mostly turn outboard on the oneway, you probably
should look at the stubby also - there is a real advantage to being able
to start with a tailstock against the piece, or to start between centers
and adjust a bit as you go - turning outboard doesn't let you do either.
There are some other large capacity lathes if you hunt around for them.
the other note, is that if you are mostly turning outboard, why buy a
oneway? get something that does't have the ways and stuff that you won't
be using


"Lawrence Day" wrote in message
...
I have been turning for several years on a Oneway 1224 and I am
considering moving up to a larger lathe. The two that I am considering
the most is a Oneway 2436 with the 44" outboard setup or the VB-36 with
tail stock setup. What do you guys think? Which is more user friendly?
Which one is easier to get parts for, etc? Thanks


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In article . com,
robo hippy wrote:

I just got my new Craft Supplies catalogue, and saw the info on the
new Robust lathe. Sliding headstock, 2 or 3 hp motor, 25 inch diameter
turnings, and a few other amenities. It is the only lathe that I would
consider getting, and giving up the PM for. The sliding headstock
gives you the best of a bowl lathe, and a spindle lathe. No need to go
outboard. I never appreciate the sliding headstock feature until I do
a demo on a lathe that doesn't have it. No more leaning over the bed
of the lathe to turn bowls, or boxes.
robo hippy

I've been in lust with the Robust since I saw the first ad for it a
couple years ago

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It sounds as if you have not yet turned those 20" diameter by 20" long
vessels. If you had you'd see that there is not a lot of fun in them,
they really beat you up, and they don't usually sell for an amount to
make them worthwhile turning projects, at least if money is an issue at
all. Further, for most of us, logs large enough to make outsized
turnings are few and far between. We have a 23" bowl on the dining room
table and it goes under the bed when company comes -- it is too big to
be useful for anything at all. Better to make the perfect shape in the
perfect piece of wood as opposed to huge.

The Stubby 750 is a 16" machine over the way and a 30" machine when you
pull the way (or bed) out. You can start a 30" blank between centers,
as long as it isn't also very tall. The Stubby 1000 is a 20" lathe over
the way and 42" or 43" over the 'gap' which is the same length as on the
750. Further, with both machines, you don't have to deduct anything
from the swing for the banjo because you can mount it on the aux bed
where it is out of the way of the work and convenient for you. You can
start big pieces between centers -- both for safety and for artistic
reasons.

As for parts on the Stubby -- I stock pretty much everything. If you
drop your headstock off the roof of a 6 story building, I can send you
another and it will bolt right on to your machine. Further, many of the
parts are off-the-shelf -- whenever possible. If a banjo lock fails,
for instance, you can get one from me or from McMaster Carr or several
other places. The electronics are all done here, by me, and are
Eaton/Cutler Hammer industrial controls. Bearings are SKF or equal and
standard metric parts. I stock them but so does any large bearing
house. The motors are stocked here but I've never replaced one except
for physical damage. The castings -- what's to go wrong? Further,
there is a large and knowledgeable group of Stubby owners around, in
touch pretty regularly, and able and willing to help if somebody has a
problem.

If I were dropping that amount of money on a lathe, I'd want to test
drive it first -- you did that with your last car or truck -- right? I'd
be happy to fix you up with a Stubby owner if you are interested. Then
drive the other lathes and decide which you really want.

Earlier in this thread, somebody opined that the Oneway was the best. I
wonder what other lathes he's spent any time with.

Bill


Lawrence Day wrote:
I will most likely be turning over the bed to start (a 24" diameter blank is
pretty large, the VB has a 26" capacity with the tailstock attached and the
Oneway has a 24" capacity over the ways) but like the idea of a large
outboard area to do larger pieces as my experience grows with larger work.

One of my concerns with the Stubby and VB is getting service/parts in North
America. I understand that the Stubby was not imported for several years
and know little about the VB's track record on service/parts availability


"William Noble" wrote in message
.. .
if your intent is to mostly turn outboard on the oneway, you probably
should look at the stubby also - there is a real advantage to being able
to start with a tailstock against the piece, or to start between centers
and adjust a bit as you go - turning outboard doesn't let you do either.
There are some other large capacity lathes if you hunt around for them.
the other note, is that if you are mostly turning outboard, why buy a
oneway? get something that does't have the ways and stuff that you won't
be using


"Lawrence Day" wrote in message
...
I have been turning for several years on a Oneway 1224 and I am
considering moving up to a larger lathe. The two that I am considering
the most is a Oneway 2436 with the 44" outboard setup or the VB-36 with
tail stock setup. What do you guys think? Which is more user friendly?
Which one is easier to get parts for, etc? Thanks


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"Bill Rubenstein" wrote in message
t...
We have a 23" bowl on the dining room
table and it goes under the bed when company comes -- it is too big to be
useful for anything at all. Better to make the perfect shape in the
perfect piece of wood as opposed to huge.


Sounds like my sweet spouse who looked at the first 16" bowl from the 3000
and pronounced it a "thunder mug." Got to admit, 20 would be as much as I
can ever think of swinging.

Stubby is far in the future, though it would be my choice of the three under
discussion.

Hi Bill

/Snip/ - turning outboard doesn't let you do either. /snip/

It almost sounds like you are not familiar with the Oneway lathes
Bill, The real nice thing with the Oneway lathe is that with the
outboard addition, you have two lathes in one, a large over the bed
turning lathe and also a large outboard turning Bowl/platter lathe,
where you can start a large blank between centers if wanted/needed, I
added a direct link here to a Oneway lathe setup that shows you
exactly the double setup I am referring to.

http://www.oneway.on.ca/lathes/2436_access.htm

Have fun and take care
Leo Van Der Loo


On May 21, 1:52 am, "William Noble" wrote:
if your intent is to mostly turn outboard on the oneway, you probably should
look at the stubby also - there is a real advantage to being able to start
with a tailstock against the piece, or to start between centers and adjust a
bit as you go - turning outboard doesn't let you do either. /SNIP/

"George" wrote in message news:tkK4i.34778


Sounds like my sweet spouse who looked at the first 16" bowl from the 3000
and pronounced it a "thunder mug." Got to admit, 20 would be as much as I
can ever think of swinging.

Amen. Before I turned a 12" maple bowl it sounded a reasonable size to me.
After finishing it, I looked at it on the sideboard and decided it was too
large for the piece. We placed it on our small pub-style dining table: it
dominated the table and left little room for food serving dishes. Same
thing on the coffee table. So I gave it to a friend for her birthday, only
to have her say, "Gee, it's lovely. But do you possibly have anything
smaller?" My daughter now uses is with her kids for popcorn while watching
DVDs on TV.

20"? That's big.

Max

well, the specs on the 750 say:
S750 - 16" swing over bed - 30" swing with bed extended 16-34" between
centers


so 16 inch swing over bed means 32 inches in diameter, and 16 to 34 inches
between centers is greater than your 20 inch length - if you are planning
mostly spindle turning, the oneway may be better for you, but otherwise, I
would suggest you think about if the stubby might be a good choice - the
one-way is "prettier" in some ways, it has a very clean line to it and
beautiful finish - but if you are like me, you use a tool rather than baby
it - I personally have a stubby 1000, which has a 20 inch swing over
bed --- note also that on both the 750 and the 1000, you slide the bed back
and get a lot more inches of radius - I bought the 1000 for the size it
could swing (big enough) and the small footprint it required - if I had
infinite space I might have gone for a Nichols or SeriousLathe (both of
which I think are no longer in business) - but in retrospect that would have
been a mistake because my desire to turn increasingly larger objects
moderated over time.

oh, one more thought - if you are really really going to turn something that
ends up 20 inches diameter, 20 inches long, you are probably making hollow
forms, and you will want to carefully consider how your hollowing setup will
work with the lathe of your choice - if you are using a captive system,
check how it will fit on the lathes you are considering, for example.




"Lawrence Day" wrote in message
...
I looked at the specs on the Stubby but it appears (unless I'm reading
wrong) that the Stubby 750 will not handle a piece that is 20+ inches in
diameter and 20+ inches long.


"Bill Rubenstein" wrote in message
...
A little commercial announcement here -- have you considered a Stubby? And
if not, why?

Bill

David Wade wrote:
If you are in North America I would say the Oneway is the answer for
all of your questions.
DW

Lawrence Day wrote:
I have been turning for several years on a Oneway 1224 and I am
considering moving up to a larger lathe. The two that I am considering
the most is a Oneway 2436 with the 44" outboard setup or the VB-36 with
tail stock setup. What do you guys think? Which is more user
friendly? Which one is easier to get parts for, etc? Thanks





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Yes, I am familiar with the Oneway. Although I have a large shop, I
would not have room for that rig. Also, by the time you buy all that,
you are way over the price of a Stubby 750, I think.

Bill

wrote:
Hi Bill

/Snip/ - turning outboard doesn't let you do either. /snip/

It almost sounds like you are not familiar with the Oneway lathes
Bill, The real nice thing with the Oneway lathe is that with the
outboard addition, you have two lathes in one, a large over the bed
turning lathe and also a large outboard turning Bowl/platter lathe,
where you can start a large blank between centers if wanted/needed, I
added a direct link here to a Oneway lathe setup that shows you
exactly the double setup I am referring to.

http://www.oneway.on.ca/lathes/2436_access.htm

Have fun and take care
Leo Van Der Loo


On May 21, 1:52 am, "William Noble" wrote:
if your intent is to mostly turn outboard on the oneway, you probably should
look at the stubby also - there is a real advantage to being able to start
with a tailstock against the piece, or to start between centers and adjust a
bit as you go - turning outboard doesn't let you do either. /SNIP/

there are two Bills in this conversation, I'm one of them. It is just plain
not true that you can "start a large blank between centers" on the oneway -
Try putting a 36 inch irregular slab inboard on the oneway and tell me what
happens - this is a convenient size for platters, by the way. On a Oneway
you would have to mount this outboard and have the outboard turning
attachments - that's fine if you can dedicate a large enough space to the
lathe - I can't, I have the headstock near a wall and the tailstock near
another wall - those of you with plenty of square feet can consider lathes
that require a large footprint, but if you are space constrained, avoiding
the need for outboard turning is very helpful.

bill n

wrote in message
oups.com...
Hi Bill

/Snip/ - turning outboard doesn't let you do either. /snip/

It almost sounds like you are not familiar with the Oneway lathes
Bill, The real nice thing with the Oneway lathe is that with the
outboard addition, you have two lathes in one, a large over the bed
turning lathe and also a large outboard turning Bowl/platter lathe,
where you can start a large blank between centers if wanted/needed, I
added a direct link here to a Oneway lathe setup that shows you
exactly the double setup I am referring to.

http://www.oneway.on.ca/lathes/2436_access.htm

Have fun and take care
Leo Van Der Loo


On May 21, 1:52 am, "William Noble" wrote:
if your intent is to mostly turn outboard on the oneway, you probably
should
look at the stubby also - there is a real advantage to being able to
start
with a tailstock against the piece, or to start between centers and
adjust a
bit as you go - turning outboard doesn't let you do either. /SNIP/




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Actually, the Serious Lathe is still around. I believe that the
origional owner sold it to a guy in Medford, OR. He was coming to the
regional turners clubs and talking about it, and demoing his tools.
John Nichols is no longer making his lathes. I only saw one, and it
wasn't a work of art, but one you could use and abuse for a long time,
and no matter how young you were, it would outlast you. His orders
dropped off because of the Oneway lathes.
robo hippy

On May 22, 10:40 pm, "William Noble" wrote:
well, the specs on the 750 say:
S750 - 16" swing over bed - 30" swing with bed extended 16-34" between
centers

so 16 inch swing over bed means 32 inches in diameter, and 16 to 34 inches
between centers is greater than your 20 inch length - if you are planning
mostly spindle turning, the oneway may be better for you, but otherwise, I
would suggest you think about if the stubby might be a good choice - the
one-way is "prettier" in some ways, it has a very clean line to it and
beautiful finish - but if you are like me, you use a tool rather than baby
it - I personally have a stubby 1000, which has a 20 inch swing over
bed --- note also that on both the 750 and the 1000, you slide the bed back
and get a lot more inches of radius - I bought the 1000 for the size it
could swing (big enough) and the small footprint it required - if I had
infinite space I might have gone for a Nichols or SeriousLathe (both of
which I think are no longer in business) - but in retrospect that would have
been a mistake because my desire to turn increasingly larger objects
moderated over time.

oh, one more thought - if you are really really going to turn something that
ends up 20 inches diameter, 20 inches long, you are probably making hollow
forms, and you will want to carefully consider how your hollowing setup will
work with the lathe of your choice - if you are using a captive system,
check how it will fit on the lathes you are considering, for example.

"Lawrence Day" wrote in message

...



I looked at the specs on the Stubby but it appears (unless I'm reading
wrong) that the Stubby 750 will not handle a piece that is 20+ inches in
diameter and 20+ inches long.

"Bill Rubenstein" wrote in message
t...
A little commercial announcement here -- have you considered a Stubby? And
if not, why?

Bill

David Wade wrote:
If you are in North America I would say the Oneway is the answer for
all of your questions.
DW

Lawrence Day wrote:
I have been turning for several years on a Oneway 1224 and I am
considering moving up to a larger lathe. The two that I am considering
the most is a Oneway 2436 with the 44" outboard setup or the VB-36 with
tail stock setup. What do you guys think? Which is more user
friendly? Which one is easier to get parts for, etc? Thanks

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Hi Bill
We are not talking about the space in your shop.
Nor were we talking about 36" platters.

So maybe you should REREAD what you said.

YOU SAID:
if your intent is to mostly turn outboard on the oneway, you probably
should
look at the stubby also - there is a real advantage to being able to
start
with a tailstock against the piece, or to start between centers and
adjust a
bit as you go - turning outboard doesn't let you do either. /SNIP/

The above is why I said it looked like you where not familiar with the Oneway lathe, as you certainly are able to do both these things, namely start turning with the tailstock against the piece AND ALSO start between centers and adjust etc.

the other note, is that if you are mostly turning outboard, why buy a
oneway? get something that does't have the ways and stuff that you
won't be
using

also the OP exactly said he would like to turn 20" pieces that were 20" long over the ways, and later he would like to turn larger pieces and liked to turn larger as his experience grew, and liked the idea of turning larger pieces outboard.

Anyway thats the way I read it, and why I said what I said. :-)))

And I still think The Oneway is the best there is, IMO.

Have fun and take care
Leo Van Der Loo

Hi Lawrence,

I actually considered the same comparison before I bought my 2436. I did not buy the large outboard attachment, because I have no interest on work of that scale.

Turning inboard on the 2436 is a dream as the lathe just does what I ask of it and I can focus on the turning.

I replaced one speed controller - on Oneway's warranty; that was likely due to my style of starting and stopping frequently as I had not originally purchased the breaking resistor and that is what probably cooked the original controller.

If I had to do it over again, I would purchase the same identical machine. The folks in Ontario have quickly answered any questions I have had and shipped replacement consumables quickly (I use vacuum chucking for much of my work).

My turning skills have improved significantly with the use of this lathe, and the vacuum chucking capability has allowed me to rework production items which I would otherwise have had to discard.

George

"Lawrence Day" wrote in message ...
I have been turning for several years on a Oneway 1224 and I am considering moving up to a larger lathe. The two that I am considering the most is a Oneway 2436 with the 44" outboard setup or the VB-36 with tail stock setup. What do you guys think? Which is more user friendly? Which one is easier to get parts for, etc? Thanks

I actually like the oneway a lot - I'm not denigrating it - what I was
responding to was what appeared to be a post saying that to turn large
things, the OP wanted to buy a oneway and the outboard turning attachment -
whether I was clear o4r not, my intended point was that if you want to turn
larger than you can turn over the ways on a oneway, then look at the Stubby
because you can turn quite a bit larger without going outboard (in fact, on
a stubby you CANT go outboard). If the oneway meets your needs, its a
beautiful lathe, but it's at its best when you are turning within it's
design range over the ways.


wrote in message
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Hi Bill
We are not talking about the space in your shop.
Nor were we talking about 36" platters.

So maybe you should REREAD what you said.





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Hi Bill

Yes we do agree on a lot, and I'm sure the Stubby is the better answer
for some instances, like you said.
As matter of fact, all things being equal, if there was no Oneway, the
Stubby would be on top of my list.

Have fun and take care
Leo Van Der Loo


On May 26, 1:34 am, "William Noble" wrote:
I actually like the oneway a lot - I'm not denigrating it - what I was
responding to was what appeared to be a post saying that to turn large
things, the OP wanted to buy a oneway and the outboard turning attachment -
whether I was clear o4r not, my intended point was that if you want to turn
larger than you can turn over the ways on a oneway, then look at the Stubby
because you can turn quite a bit larger without going outboard (in fact, on
a stubby you CANT go outboard). If the oneway meets your needs, its a
beautiful lathe, but it's at its best when you are turning within it's
design range over the ways.

wrote in message

ups.com...

Hi Bill
We are not talking about the space in your shop.
Nor were we talking about 36" platters.

So maybe you should REREAD what you said.

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Bill, Leo V. & interested others,

I don't mean to be disagreeable. Just asking questions of knowledgeable
friends. I turn things that fit on people's tables or on their shelves
from decent native timber blanks and I _sincerely want to know what
important advantages I am missing or at least compromising.
****************************************

Everything else being equal as possible:

For turning say a 4 in. tall X 7 in. d. maple blank to make a bowl, why
is a Oneway or a Stubby superior to my Jet mini or my VL100?

For turning a 1 1/2 in. X 12 in, cherry blank to make a platter, why is
a Oneway or a Stubby superior to my N3K ?

I assume there are good reasons why and I'm happy to listen to them.
TIA.


Turn to Safety, Arch
Fortiter


http://community.webtv.net/almcc/MacsMusings

"Arch" wrote in message
...
Bill, Leo V. & interested others,

I don't mean to be disagreeable. Just asking questions of knowledgeable
friends. I turn things that fit on people's tables or on their shelves
from decent native timber blanks and I _sincerely want to know what
important advantages I am missing or at least compromising.
****************************************

Everything else being equal as possible:

For turning say a 4 in. tall X 7 in. d. maple blank to make a bowl, why
is a Oneway or a Stubby superior to my Jet mini or my VL100?

They aren't.

For turning a 1 1/2 in. X 12 in, cherry blank to make a platter, why is
a Oneway or a Stubby superior to my N3K ?

They aren't.

I assume there are good reasons why and I'm happy to listen to them.
TIA.

No, there isn't.

Hi Arch

I don't want to take the whole bandwidth up why this is, so I'll keep
it short.
1) because I say so !!! ;- , not good enough ??? Oh OK.
2) Get One and way, ;-)) faster than I can explain, you will know.
3) You can make a small bowl on a big lathe.
4) You can't make a large bowl on a little lathe.
5) Less vibration or wiggle, yes I know some like that ;-)))
5) Bragging rights ????
6) I'll stop here, my coffee is getting cold.
7) Etc, Etc,
8) And And..........
Have MORE fun and take care
Leo Van Der Loo



On May 26, 5:53 pm, (Arch) wrote:
Bill, Leo V. & interested others,

I don't mean to be disagreeable. Just asking questions of knowledgeable
friends. I turn things that fit on people's tables or on their shelves
from decent native timber blanks and I _sincerely want to know what
important advantages I am missing or at least compromising.
****************************************

Everything else being equal as possible:

For turning say a 4 in. tall X 7 in. d. maple blank to make a bowl, why
is a Oneway or a Stubby superior to my Jet mini or my VL100?

For turning a 1 1/2 in. X 12 in, cherry blank to make a platter, why is
a Oneway or a Stubby superior to my N3K ?

I assume there are good reasons why and I'm happy to listen to them.
TIA.

Turn to Safety, Arch
Fortiter

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Well, I had the opportunity to turn on a VB-36 today (a member at the local AAW club has one), what a dream. Standing directly facing the opening of a 16" bowl was a lot easier than bending over the bed/ways of a conventional lathe (I have turned on 2436 but this was my first VB-36 experience. Some things would take some time to get accustomed to but it sure was fun!!! The decision gets harder...
"George Saridakis" wrote in message news:0oI5i.18$4S5.0@trndny01...
Hi Lawrence,

I actually considered the same comparison before I bought my 2436. I did not buy the large outboard attachment, because I have no interest on work of that scale.

Turning inboard on the 2436 is a dream as the lathe just does what I ask of it and I can focus on the turning.

I replaced one speed controller - on Oneway's warranty; that was likely due to my style of starting and stopping frequently as I had not originally purchased the breaking resistor and that is what probably cooked the original controller.

If I had to do it over again, I would purchase the same identical machine. The folks in Ontario have quickly answered any questions I have had and shipped replacement consumables quickly (I use vacuum chucking for much of my work).

My turning skills have improved significantly with the use of this lathe, and the vacuum chucking capability has allowed me to rework production items which I would otherwise have had to discard.

George

"Lawrence Day" wrote in message ...
I have been turning for several years on a Oneway 1224 and I am considering moving up to a larger lathe. The two that I am considering the most is a Oneway 2436 with the 44" outboard setup or the VB-36 with tail stock setup. What do you guys think? Which is more user friendly? Which one is easier to get parts for, etc? Thanks

Arch and all...
Trying to argue which lathe is 'best' based on specifications and
capabilities is an exercise in futility. Most of the well known 'good'
lathes out there are, in fact, good lathes. What makes one a 'better'
choice is the way it fits how the user works. Considering what I like to
do and for the idiosyncrasies I am and am not willing to put up with,
the Oneway was the best choice. For a friend, it was the Stubby 1000.
For another it was a Powermatic. For some turners it is a Jet Mini. In
some particularly unusual, and difficult to understand, situations it is
an N3K ;o) . Different strokes for different folks. We should give up
with trying to determine the 'best' overall lathe and focus on a best
match with the user profile - and it ain't the hoary old "one's a
spindle machine and the other's a bowl machine" nonsense.

David
fivetiter

Arch wrote:
Bill, Leo V. & interested others,

I don't mean to be disagreeable. Just asking questions of knowledgeable
friends. I turn things that fit on people's tables or on their shelves
from decent native timber blanks and I _sincerely want to know what
important advantages I am missing or at least compromising.
****************************************

Everything else being equal as possible:

For turning say a 4 in. tall X 7 in. d. maple blank to make a bowl, why
is a Oneway or a Stubby superior to my Jet mini or my VL100?

For turning a 1 1/2 in. X 12 in, cherry blank to make a platter, why is
a Oneway or a Stubby superior to my N3K ?

I assume there are good reasons why and I'm happy to listen to them.
TIA.


Turn to Safety, Arch
Fortiter


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I bought a Record bowl lathe a few years ago for about $500.00 delivered.
The stand is mounted to the floor with lag bolts. I would like a VB36 but
this one lets me stand in front of it and turn bowls and hollow forms up to
18" diameter, larger if I figured how to slow it down some. Mostly a lathe
needs to turn wood 'round. After that it is stability and bragging rights.
The discussion is interesting but for all you newbies or for guys and gals
like me who dream of having enough money to have a budget :-) get somehting
that turns wood and have fun.
---
God bless and safe turning
Darrell Feltmate
Truro, NS
http://aroundthewoods.com
http://roundopinions.blogspot.com
"David Wade" wrote in message
...
Arch and all...
Trying to argue which lathe is 'best' based on specifications and
capabilities is an exercise in futility. Most of the well known 'good'
lathes out there are, in fact, good lathes. What makes one a 'better'
choice is the way it fits how the user works. Considering what I like to
do and for the idiosyncrasies I am and am not willing to put up with, the
Oneway was the best choice. For a friend, it was the Stubby 1000. For
another it was a Powermatic. For some turners it is a Jet Mini. In some
particularly unusual, and difficult to understand, situations it is an N3K
;o) . Different strokes for different folks. We should give up with trying
to determine the 'best' overall lathe and focus on a best match with the
user profile - and it ain't the hoary old "one's a spindle machine and the
other's a bowl machine" nonsense.

David
fivetiter

Arch wrote:
Bill, Leo V. & interested others, I don't mean to be disagreeable. Just
asking questions of knowledgeable
friends. I turn things that fit on people's tables or on their shelves
from decent native timber blanks and I _sincerely want to know what
important advantages I am missing or at least compromising.
****************************************

Everything else being equal as possible:

For turning say a 4 in. tall X 7 in. d. maple blank to make a bowl, why
is a Oneway or a Stubby superior to my Jet mini or my VL100?

For turning a 1 1/2 in. X 12 in, cherry blank to make a platter, why is
a Oneway or a Stubby superior to my N3K ?

I assume there are good reasons why and I'm happy to listen to them.
TIA.

Turn to Safety, Arch
Fortiter


http://community.webtv.net/almcc/MacsMusings

I have a nova comet which is quite similar to hte Jet mini (I thought it had
better bearings, and it came with no motor) - I went from that to the
stubby. I keep the commet for small things because I find the big lathe
cumbersome for miniatures, pens and so on. That said, let me try and offer
some answers:

4inch tall, 7 inches diameter - too big for my comet, 5 inches was max
diameter it could turn successfully - beyond that, serious vibration would
mess up whatever I was up to, and I had to be really really careful to get a
tolerable result. The greater mass of the Stubby solves this nicely - there
is no vibration at 7 inch diameter - the VL 100 would probably be fine at 7
inches, but you would know better than I, but my Comet would not be.

12 inch cherry platter - haven't tried an N3K, it's probably fine,
particularly if you have the variable speed option - you may or may not
notice more stability with the heavier machine. What you would notice is if
your platter started out wiht something that was not round and not balanced,
the greater mass would really help - I like to make natural edged platters,
when I find a slice through a suitable trunk, and that does require a lathe
with enough mass to handle the unblananced load, and enough swing to let it
go around.

Neither of these reasons should make you run out and buy a stubby, or
anything else. I wanted to turn bigger stuff than the Comet would handle,
and I have learned that it is a lot cheaper to buy the good tool you want
once, than to ratchet yourslf up through a bunch of inadequate
intermediaries - so I looked at all the usual high end suspects, oneway,
stubby, seriouslathe, nichols, vicmark and several others. My trade study
convinced me to get a Stubby 1000. If I already had the other lathes you
mention, I might not have needed to buy the Stubby. And, I'm aware of at
least one turner who decided the stubby wasn't heavy enough for him and got
a larger, I think custom, lathe - but for me, it will meet my turning
needs.

hope this helps - I am not a stubby salesman, I don't really care if anyone
buys them, but I do have one and so if asked, I can explain why I got it and
why I didn't buy a oneway (actually a key reason for "not oneway" was that
the local dealer was a real jerk - if the lathe had been really really
perfect for me, I probably would have gotten it anyway since several folks
in the turning club I frequent have them, but .....)

"Arch" wrote in message
...
Bill, Leo V. & interested others,

I don't mean to be disagreeable. Just asking questions of knowledgeable
friends. I turn things that fit on people's tables or on their shelves
from decent native timber blanks and I _sincerely want to know what
important advantages I am missing or at least compromising.
****************************************

Everything else being equal as possible:

For turning say a 4 in. tall X 7 in. d. maple blank to make a bowl, why
is a Oneway or a Stubby superior to my Jet mini or my VL100?

For turning a 1 1/2 in. X 12 in, cherry blank to make a platter, why is
a Oneway or a Stubby superior to my N3K ?

I assume there are good reasons why and I'm happy to listen to them.
TIA.


Turn to Safety, Arch
Fortiter


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