Hi Guys:

Been a lonnng time since I've been over here. Not trying to avoid
you all, just haven't been doing that much turning. But recently fired
up my trusty HF lathe to turn some wooden carving mallets for the older
son - apparently I've gotten him interested in carving out some wooden
Tikis. By the way, my HF lathe is about 9-10 years old now, and still
working just fine - painted yellow, of course.

Wasn't about to waste any of my air dried wood on him, so glued up
a couple of chunks of 2X4 together, squared them up by running them thru
my planer, and cut them for three different length mallets.

The 2X4s were soft pine, so figured no problem using a gouge and
rounding them off. The theory was better than the doing. Course it
mighta helped if I'd sharpend the gouge a bit first, but didn't bother.
Well, did get them rounded (using a lare wood rasp, while the lathe was
runnning - worked well, just a bit slower thn I caed for),then proceded
turning 3 various length mallets for him. Actually, they come out quite
nicely, if you don't care about the flue line, and if I need more in the
future, may well do it the same way.

But, a few days back picked up a hand power planer at a HF sidewalk
sale. For $25, figured I couldn't go wrong.

So, figured next time Iturn something, rather than rounding it
first, or try rounding it in the lathe as before, I'd try using the hand
planer on the stock, while the lathe is running..

The question is: Has any of you used a hand power planer this way?
And, if so, any down side?

I'll be checking back. Thanks.

Later.



JOAT
Politician \Pol`i*ti"cian\, n. Latin for career criminal

So, figured next time Iturn something, rather than rounding it
first, or try rounding it in the lathe as before, I'd try using the hand
planer on the stock, while the lathe is running..

The question is: Has any of you used a hand power planer this way?
And, if so, any down side?

I'll be checking back. Thanks.

Even though you're not the trolling type, this sure sounds like one.

Using a wood rasp with the lathe running? NO!

Using a power planer with the lathe running? HELL NO!

Use the gouge, sharpen if necessary. Start with very light cuts to knock off
the corners, then raise the handle to rub the bevel. You can also rip the
corners off first using the bandsaw or table saw.

Buddy

(J T) wrote:


But, a few days back picked up a hand power planer at a HF
sidewalk
sale. For $25, figured I couldn't go wrong.

So, figured next time Iturn something, rather than rounding it
first, or try rounding it in the lathe as before, I'd try using the
hand planer on the stock, while the lathe is running..

The question is: Has any of you used a hand power planer this
way?
And, if so, any down side?

I'll be checking back. Thanks.

A lot of folks will be checking back!!

(J T) writes:
So, figured next time Iturn something, rather than rounding it
first, or try rounding it in the lathe as before, I'd try using the
hand planer on the stock, while the lathe is running..

Please don't. The only safe way to cut the wood while it's turning is
with a tool that's designed to be supported by the toolrest. The last
thing you want is to have the lathe throw a running planer at you.

The question is: Has any of you used a hand power planer this
way? And, if so, any down side?

I've used a hand power planer with the lathe, but not while it's
running. Find the spindle lock on the lathe and LOCK THE SPINDLE.
Then use the plane to power-carve the blank, using the lathe to simply
hold the blank in place.

But, what you probably don't realize is that soft pine is sometimes
*harder* to turn cleanly because it really needs a sharp edge, else
the blunt edge just mangles the wood instead of cutting it. You can
sharpen a gouge with a high speed 6" grinder, so no excuses there -
any grinder will do. It just takes a light touch and a little
patience. Try poplar next time, or an inexpensive harder wood (around
here, that's maple). Or a tree branch. But *do* sharpen the gouge;
it will make a big difference.

With a sharp gouge, you might find it's faster to use the lathe as
it's intended, than to use the planer. I only use the planer when the
blank is too out of balance to safely spin up, and then only to
balance the wood.

Nice troll, JOAT!

LOL...

Bob

writes:
Nice troll, JOAT!

Actually, JOAT's a regular on rec.woodworking, and based on his past
posts, this isn't a troll. He's just much more creative at how he
approaches tasks than most people.

Sun, Jun 11, 2006, 9:13pm: (Buddy*Matlosz)
doth sayeth:
Even though you're not the trolling type, this sure sounds like one.
Using a wood rasp with the lathe running? NO!
Using a power planer with the lathe running? HELL NO!
Use the gouge, sharpen if necessary. Start with very light cuts to knock
off the corners, then raise the handle to rub the bevel. You can also
rip the corners off first using the bandsaw or table saw.

Moi? Trolleth? Nah, not this time.

Actually, the wood rasp worked pretty nicely. Get a good grip on
both ends, don't apply a huge amount of pressure, and no prob. I've had
the gouge jerk on knots, or hard sections - don't have that problem with
the wood rasp. So, until I actually get to trying it, I don't see any
problem using the power planer the same way.

Yeah, I knew I shoulda used a saw to rough it round, but decided
to see how long it would take with just the gouge. In truth, the gouge
wasn't really dull, and I was only taking light cuts. But, it was
taking longer than I cared to mess with - a result of not rounding it
first.

I did find that if I used a parting tool, not real deep cuts, about
1/8" apart, then get the standing sections, that worked pretty well.
Faster than just the gouge.

If I'd known I'd get so many responses from you rec.woodworking
guys, I'd just have posted there instead of here.



JOAT
Politician \Pol`i*ti"cian\, n. Latin for career criminal

Mon, Jun 12, 2006, 1:43am (EDT+4)
(Lobby*Dosser) doth sayeth:
A lot of folks will be checking back!!

Nothing like learning something new.



JOAT
Politician \Pol`i*ti"cian\, n. Latin for career criminal

Sun, Jun 11, 2006, 10:14pm (DJ*Delorie) doth sayeth:
Please don't. The only safe way to cut the wood while it's turning is
with a tool that's designed to be supported by the toolrest. The last
thing you want is to have the lathe throw a running planer at you.

I've used a hand power planer with the lathe, but not while it's
running. Find the spindle lock on the lathe and LOCK THE SPINDLE. snip

But, what you probably don't realize is that soft pine is sometimes
*harder* to turn cleanly because it really needs a sharp edge, else the
blunt edge just mangles the wood instead of cutting it. You can sharpen
a gouge with a high speed 6" grinder,snip

With a sharp gouge, you might find it's faster to use the lathe as it's
intended, than to use the planer. I only use the planer when the blank
is too out of balance to safely spin up, and then only to balance the
wood.

I take it you've never had a gouge "catch" in a knot? It's not
like I'm gonna let the planer be supported by the wood.

Why bother? Rather than going thru that, I'd just knock off the
edges with a saw.

Yep, I realize. And the gouge wasn't really dull. And, even it if
was, I don't sharpen on a grinder. I find it faster, and easier, to
sharpen on a sanding belt.



JOAT
Politician \Pol`i*ti"cian\, n. Latin for career criminal

Mon, Jun 12, 2006, 4:37am (EDT-3) From:
Nice troll, JOAT!
LOL...

Just listen, and learn



JOAT
Politician \Pol`i*ti"cian\, n. Latin for career criminal

Mon, Jun 12, 2006, 10:34am (DJ*Delorie) doth clarify:
Actually, JOAT's a regular on rec.woodworking, and based on his past
posts, this isn't a troll. He's just much more creative at how he
approaches tasks than most people.

Usta was a regular there. Now, quite irregular. I put at least
part of my approaches down to different generation, and different
history.



JOAT
Politician \Pol`i*ti"cian\, n. Latin for career criminal

On Sun, 11 Jun 2006 20:21:01 -0400, (J T)
wrote:

Hi Guys:

Been a lonnng time since I've been over here. Not trying to avoid
you all, just haven't been doing that much turning. But recently fired
up my trusty HF lathe to turn some wooden carving mallets for the older
son - apparently I've gotten him interested in carving out some wooden
Tikis. By the way, my HF lathe is about 9-10 years old now, and still
working just fine - painted yellow, of course.

Wasn't about to waste any of my air dried wood on him, so glued up
a couple of chunks of 2X4 together, squared them up by running them thru
my planer, and cut them for three different length mallets.

The 2X4s were soft pine, so figured no problem using a gouge and
rounding them off. The theory was better than the doing. Course it
mighta helped if I'd sharpend the gouge a bit first, but didn't bother.
Well, did get them rounded (using a lare wood rasp, while the lathe was
runnning - worked well, just a bit slower thn I caed for),then proceded
turning 3 various length mallets for him. Actually, they come out quite
nicely, if you don't care about the flue line, and if I need more in the
future, may well do it the same way.

But, a few days back picked up a hand power planer at a HF sidewalk
sale. For $25, figured I couldn't go wrong.

So, figured next time Iturn something, rather than rounding it
first, or try rounding it in the lathe as before, I'd try using the hand
planer on the stock, while the lathe is running..

The question is: Has any of you used a hand power planer this way?
And, if so, any down side?

I'll be checking back. Thanks.

Later.



JOAT
Politician \Pol`i*ti"cian\, n. Latin for career criminal

This does not sound safel, and probably not a good idea. You can cut
off the corners using a band saw to reduce lathe time. Also, beware
of HF power tools, The "Chicago" brand and those "Made in China" power
tools are very low quality.

J T rasped, " Usta was...." A lot of us usta was and now ain't. Maybe
it's better when we aren't understood. Anyhow rcw is a civil and
forgiving group. Welcome back, J T. Not that I'd trust anybody who uses
WebTv. We don't get half of what's going on.

Potential COC candidate, Kevin?


Turn to Safety, Arch
Fortiter



http://community.webtv.net/almcc/MacsMusings

(J T) writes:
I take it you've never had a gouge "catch" in a knot?

Yes. I snapped the end of the tool off once, too. But the toolrest
absorbed the shock, not my body.

Why bother? Rather than going thru that, I'd just knock off the
edges with a saw.

Well, at 3000 RPM and a 1.25" roughing gouge, I can round a square
blank faster than I can set up the saw.

Mon, Jun 12, 2006, 6:32pm (EDT+4) (Phisherman) doth
speak:
This does not sound safel, and probably not a good idea. You can cut off
the corners using a band saw to reduce lathe time. Also, beware of HF
power tools, The "Chicago" brand and those "Made in China" power tools
are very low quality.

OK, glad we're all in agreement on the safety issue. I'll give
this a try in a day or so, and let you all know how it turns out.

And, yeah, I already knew I could have knocked the corners off
before I started, that's not the point.

Beware of HF power tools? Based on what? I've got some going on
10 years old, and no problems with any of them. Go visit a HF store
sometime, and check out the all contractors in there buying power tools.
And, as far as I know ALL the "Chicago" tools are made in China. My
little HF benchsaw is 9-10 years old, and working fine. Cost me about
$60 new - and I saw brand name saws, that looked like the same maker,
going for $300, when I bought mine. It's noisy, sure, but with a
carbide blade it cuts wood just like a "high quality" saw.



JOAT
Politician \Pol`i*ti"cian\, n. Latin for career criminal

On Sun, 11 Jun 2006 20:21:01 -0400, (J T) wrote:


power planer?? *shudder*

no way bro.. and I do some pretty stupid things... lol

you might try the power planed when the lathe is not running, maybe with the
spindle locked... and us the planed long ways (with the grain?) on each
corner...

I will admit to using a 12" surform to take bark off a few times.... Be sure to
stand on the other side of the lathe when using these or your wood rasp so that
when (not if) you lose your grip on it, it hits the wall, not you..

Hi Guys:

Been a lonnng time since I've been over here. Not trying to avoid
you all, just haven't been doing that much turning. But recently fired
up my trusty HF lathe to turn some wooden carving mallets for the older
son - apparently I've gotten him interested in carving out some wooden
Tikis. By the way, my HF lathe is about 9-10 years old now, and still
working just fine - painted yellow, of course.

Wasn't about to waste any of my air dried wood on him, so glued up
a couple of chunks of 2X4 together, squared them up by running them thru
my planer, and cut them for three different length mallets.

The 2X4s were soft pine, so figured no problem using a gouge and
rounding them off. The theory was better than the doing. Course it
mighta helped if I'd sharpend the gouge a bit first, but didn't bother.
Well, did get them rounded (using a lare wood rasp, while the lathe was
runnning - worked well, just a bit slower thn I caed for),then proceded
turning 3 various length mallets for him. Actually, they come out quite
nicely, if you don't care about the flue line, and if I need more in the
future, may well do it the same way.

But, a few days back picked up a hand power planer at a HF sidewalk
sale. For $25, figured I couldn't go wrong.

So, figured next time Iturn something, rather than rounding it
first, or try rounding it in the lathe as before, I'd try using the hand
planer on the stock, while the lathe is running..

The question is: Has any of you used a hand power planer this way?
And, if so, any down side?

I'll be checking back. Thanks.

Later.



JOAT
Politician \Pol`i*ti"cian\, n. Latin for career criminal

Mac

https://home.comcast.net/~mac.davis
https://home.comcast.net/~mac.davis/wood_stuff.htm

Mon, Jun 12, 2006, 2:57pm (Arch) doth sayeth:
snip. Not that I'd trust anybody who uses WebTv. We don't get half of
what's going on.

No prob, most of it is'nt worth catching anyway. Besides, I've
never figured out any actual need for a computer. I've got access to
the web. Even heard there's some free plans on there, somewhere. Found
a good PDF reader, and got a printer. Life is basically good.



JOAT
Politician \Pol`i*ti"cian\, n. Latin for career criminal

Mon, Jun 12, 2006, 3:29pm (DJ*Delorie) doth sayeth:
snip Well, at 3000 RPM and a 1.25" roughing gouge, I can round a
square blank faster than I can set up the saw.

Ah, I'm thinking mine's set a bit slower. Might have to crank it
up a bit.



JOAT
Politician \Pol`i*ti"cian\, n. Latin for career criminal

Mon, Jun 12, 2006, 2:10pm (EDT-3) From:
(mac*davis)
On Sun, 11 Jun 2006 20:21:01 -0400, (J T)
wrote:
power planer?? *shudder* snip
Be sure to stand on the other side of the lathe when using these or
your wood rasp so that when (not if) you lose your grip on it, it hits
the wall, not you..

What'll you read the update. Heh heh.

I always stand out of line at times like that, so if something does
go flying, it'll go past me, not into me.



JOAT
Politician \Pol`i*ti"cian\, n. Latin for career criminal

Hoo boy howdy, that was a learning experience.

Was gonna just put a chunk of 2X4 in the lathe, but then decided to
cut down a piece of scrap to 2X2" by about 12". Chucked it in, and
cranked up the lathe. Then cranked the hand planer down to the
shallowest cut. Stood to one side, and had at it.

Whee, no safety problems at all, and loads of wood shavings pumping
out. Whee.

Only one minor problem. Seems like, not being supported by each
end of the sole, the blades are taking more wood than the seting.
Either that, or they're just taking it off really fast. Whoo, it did
round it off fast. Like about .0005 second, or so it seemed. Being
handheld it did leave the surface a bit rough, but that'd be no prob to
smooth.

I'll probably try this again later. But, unless I've got a huge
chunk of wood in there, I figure I'll probably make some type of jig to
hold the planer and aloow it to take the shallow cuts it's actually
intended for - maybe some type of frame, adjustable a fraction of an
inch at a time. Otherwise, I'll be ending up with a rounded piece of
wood that's quite a bit smaller around than I started with - really
fast. Definite possibilities tho, definitely.
Should be no problem making a jig to do this, the only fussy part would
be getting it square to the line between the centers, and even that
shouldn't be too hard. Maybe bolted to the front of the lathe stand,
and folds down when not being used. No prob.

There was absolutely no "pull" on the planer. So, that I don't
figure is any safety problem. However, it cuts so fast you might wind
up going riight thr your piece of wood befoe you even realize it - hence
the need for some type of a jig.

All in all, very interesting. I consider thie hand power planer
and chainsaw as precision woodworking tools, that are exciting to work
with.

Anyone trying this does so at their own risk. I won't be
responsible for any injuries sufferred. Remember, I'm a trained
professional. LMAO



JOAT
Politician \Pol`i*ti"cian\, n. Latin for career criminal

"J T" wrote in message
...

Actually, the wood rasp worked pretty nicely. Get a good grip on
both ends, don't apply a huge amount of pressure, and no prob. I've had
the gouge jerk on knots, or hard sections - don't have that problem with
the wood rasp. So, until I actually get to trying it, I don't see any
problem using the power planer the same way.


I'll have to agree that this can be done. I did it a few times with a
strange "lathe" that was given to me (this may not be polite company but
I'll refrain from using the words I normally used when talking about it).
It scared the snot out of me because the slowest speed was 3000 rpms and it
went up from there. The ride with the rasp was rough and the results
weren't pretty by any stretch of the imagination. After buying a real (but
small) lathe I don't see any percentage in using a rasp since tools designed
for turning do a better job about as quickly -- although if looks don't
matter at all, the rasp may be faster. After getting my nose bloodied by a
mallet head that flew off the lathe I learned that I need to use caution
about what I do. That and to use a face shield. The rasp just didn't feel
safe. And a trip to the emergency room pretty much blows whatever time
savings there was. Actually, a trip to the emergency room just blows.





--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com

Mon, Jun 12, 2006, 6:21pm (Scratch*Ankle)
doth sayeth:
I'll have to agree that this can be done. I did it a few times snip
The ride with the rasp was rough and the results weren't pretty snip
After getting my nose bloodied by a mallet head that flew off the lathe
I learned that I need to use caution about what I do. That and to use a
face shield. snip

I don't know if I'll be using the rasp much, but didn't have any
problems at all. Yep, the surface it left was rough, but I'd epected
that - didn't figure on taking the wood down anymore than to round it.
Used the lathe tools after that.

I don't turn mallet heads. I turn one-piece malles. And, I've
never had anything fly out of the lathe, I make sure it's in tight, and
recheck every once in awhile, and re-tighten if needed. I always use a
face mask, if for nothing else, to keep the shavins out of my face.



JOAT
Politician \Pol`i*ti"cian\, n. Latin for career criminal

Uhhhhh........is your life insurance paid up? Got plenty of health
insurance? Cell phone at the ready to call 911? Go ahead then, give it a
shot!

Barry


"J T" wrote in message
...
Hi Guys:

Been a lonnng time since I've been over here. Not trying to avoid
you all, just haven't been doing that much turning. But recently fired
up my trusty HF lathe to turn some wooden carving mallets for the older
son - apparently I've gotten him interested in carving out some wooden
Tikis. By the way, my HF lathe is about 9-10 years old now, and still
working just fine - painted yellow, of course.

Wasn't about to waste any of my air dried wood on him, so glued up
a couple of chunks of 2X4 together, squared them up by running them thru
my planer, and cut them for three different length mallets.

The 2X4s were soft pine, so figured no problem using a gouge and
rounding them off. The theory was better than the doing. Course it
mighta helped if I'd sharpend the gouge a bit first, but didn't bother.
Well, did get them rounded (using a lare wood rasp, while the lathe was
runnning - worked well, just a bit slower thn I caed for),then proceded
turning 3 various length mallets for him. Actually, they come out quite
nicely, if you don't care about the flue line, and if I need more in the
future, may well do it the same way.

But, a few days back picked up a hand power planer at a HF sidewalk
sale. For $25, figured I couldn't go wrong.

So, figured next time Iturn something, rather than rounding it
first, or try rounding it in the lathe as before, I'd try using the hand
planer on the stock, while the lathe is running..

The question is: Has any of you used a hand power planer this way?
And, if so, any down side?

I'll be checking back. Thanks.

Later.



JOAT
Politician \Pol`i*ti"cian\, n. Latin for career criminal

On Sun, 11 Jun 2006 20:21:01 -0400, (J T)
wrote:

But, a few days back picked up a hand power planer at a HF sidewalk
sale. For $25, figured I couldn't go wrong.

So, figured next time Iturn something, rather than rounding it
first, or try rounding it in the lathe as before, I'd try using the hand
planer on the stock, while the lathe is running..

The question is: Has any of you used a hand power planer this way?
And, if so, any down side?

I'll be checking back. Thanks.

JOAT, you're a man among men if you pull it off. I'll keep my fingers
crossed for ya, as I don't think you'll be discouraged from doing it
no matter what anyone says. Myself, I think I'd get the wood round
first, then use the plane, but I'm overly fond of my appendages.

Good luck- and make sure someone else is around when you try it out.

Arch wrote:

Potential COC candidate, Kevin?

Well, maybe. Certainly was over in the wreck. But he has to give up
his tourist status first and take up residence. We got standards to
keep, dontcha know...

....Kevin
--
Kevin Miller
http://www.alaska.net/~atftb
Juneau, Alaska
Registered Linux User No: 307357

Yep -- the words "death wish" came to mind as I read the initial post.

Bill

Barry N. Turner wrote:
Uhhhhh........is your life insurance paid up? Got plenty of health
insurance? Cell phone at the ready to call 911? Go ahead then, give it a
shot!

Barry


"J T" wrote in message
...
Hi Guys:

Been a lonnng time since I've been over here. Not trying to avoid
you all, just haven't been doing that much turning. But recently fired
up my trusty HF lathe to turn some wooden carving mallets for the older
son - apparently I've gotten him interested in carving out some wooden
Tikis. By the way, my HF lathe is about 9-10 years old now, and still
working just fine - painted yellow, of course.

Wasn't about to waste any of my air dried wood on him, so glued up
a couple of chunks of 2X4 together, squared them up by running them thru
my planer, and cut them for three different length mallets.

The 2X4s were soft pine, so figured no problem using a gouge and
rounding them off. The theory was better than the doing. Course it
mighta helped if I'd sharpend the gouge a bit first, but didn't bother.
Well, did get them rounded (using a lare wood rasp, while the lathe was
runnning - worked well, just a bit slower thn I caed for),then proceded
turning 3 various length mallets for him. Actually, they come out quite
nicely, if you don't care about the flue line, and if I need more in the
future, may well do it the same way.

But, a few days back picked up a hand power planer at a HF sidewalk
sale. For $25, figured I couldn't go wrong.

So, figured next time Iturn something, rather than rounding it
first, or try rounding it in the lathe as before, I'd try using the hand
planer on the stock, while the lathe is running..

The question is: Has any of you used a hand power planer this way?
And, if so, any down side?

I'll be checking back. Thanks.

Later.



JOAT
Politician \Pol`i*ti"cian\, n. Latin for career criminal

On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 19:44:05 -0400, (J T) wrote:

snip

I don't know if I'll be using the rasp much, but didn't have any
problems at all. Yep, the surface it left was rough, but I'd epected
that - didn't figure on taking the wood down anymore than to round it.
Used the lathe tools after that.

An alternative is some of that really knarly sand paper in the bargain boxes...

I just got a 20 pound box of roll ends from Klingspor and a strip of that 80
grit with a sponge behind it removes wood pretty fast..

Mac

https://home.comcast.net/~mac.davis
https://home.comcast.net/~mac.davis/wood_stuff.htm

"mac davis" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 19:44:05 -0400, (J T) wrote:

snip

I don't know if I'll be using the rasp much, but didn't have any
problems at all. Yep, the surface it left was rough, but I'd epected
that - didn't figure on taking the wood down anymore than to round it.
Used the lathe tools after that.

An alternative is some of that really knarly sand paper in the bargain
boxes...

I just got a 20 pound box of roll ends from Klingspor and a strip of that
80
grit with a sponge behind it removes wood pretty fast..


Good stuff to grip in your haemostat and sand the inside of "hollow forms"
if you're so inclined.

Mon, Jun 12, 2006, 9:43pm (EDT-1) (Prometheus)
doth sayeth:
JOAT, you're a man among men if you pull it off. I'll keep my fingers
crossed for ya, as I don't think you'll be discouraged from doing it no
matter what anyone says. Myself, I think I'd get the wood round first,
then use the plane, but I'm overly fond of my appendages.
Good luck- and make sure someone else is around when you try it out.

You mean I shoulda had someone with me when I tried it? LMAO

Nah, I knew it would work, just didn't know how well. It worked
alright, just took off a lot more wood, a whole lot faster than I'd
figured on. Just the thing if you want to make something small out of a
large chunk of wood tho. LOL

With those two blades spinning at about a zillion revs a minute, I
figure there's no chance of a snag. I know for a fact a lathe tool will
jump at times, especially when it hits a knot.

I'm thinking it could be a usable tool, with an adjustable jig.
Something along the line of a frame, attached to the front of the lathe
stand, that you could adjust to the amount you wanted to take off. Fix
it in place, then just make light touches, until you got down to the
frame, then run the planer sideways along the frame. Then flip the
frame back, and proceed with regular lathe tools. At first I'd thought
about a frame that would adjust by small increments to take small cuts,
then readjust for another cut. But, that would be too fussy, and not
needed.

The piece that I did, even with pulling the planer back and lookit
at the cuts it was taken, didn't take more than about 30 seconds to take
it down to about 1". Fast. I would definitely make a jig, especially
if I were ronding anything not very large. Hmmm, I've got some car
parts, I've always wanted to make a big lathe, and I've got some pretty
big trees I'd like gotten rid of. Hmmm. Heh heh.



JOAT
Politician \Pol`i*ti"cian\, n. Latin for career criminal

Mon, Jun 12, 2006, 11:02pm (EDT-4)
(Kevin*Miller) doth sayeth:
Well, maybe. Certainly was over in the wreck. But he has to give up his
tourist status first and take up residence. We got standards to keep,
dontcha know...

Used to post here every once in awhile, but that's been long ago.
But, don't worry bout it, I may not be back - more fun over on
rec.woodworking. Don't wanna raise the standards here too high,
don'tcha know?



JOAT
Politician \Pol`i*ti"cian\, n. Latin for career criminal

On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 18:04:33 -0400, (J T)
wrote:


You mean I shoulda had someone with me when I tried it? LMAO

Well, just within yelling distance.

Nah, I knew it would work, just didn't know how well. It worked
alright, just took off a lot more wood, a whole lot faster than I'd
figured on. Just the thing if you want to make something small out of a
large chunk of wood tho. LOL

With those two blades spinning at about a zillion revs a minute, I
figure there's no chance of a snag. I know for a fact a lathe tool will
jump at times, especially when it hits a knot.

Wasn't the blade I was thinking of- it was the roughing part of it. I
suppose it depends on the blank, but sometimes I've got one big corner
sticking off that I'm too lazy to take back out and saw down with the
chainsaw. I guess I had visions of that corner whacking the top of
the plane, and either busting it, or flipping a running power tool
into your leg. I've used a regular plane on the lathe, and that
worked great- but it was after the peice was roughed out.

Glad you pulled it off, though. Fairly impressive, really.

I'm thinking it could be a usable tool, with an adjustable jig.
Something along the line of a frame, attached to the front of the lathe
stand, that you could adjust to the amount you wanted to take off. Fix
it in place, then just make light touches, until you got down to the
frame, then run the planer sideways along the frame. Then flip the
frame back, and proceed with regular lathe tools. At first I'd thought
about a frame that would adjust by small increments to take small cuts,
then readjust for another cut. But, that would be too fussy, and not
needed.

Now that *is* a good idea... A guy could do that with a plane iron on
a slide as well- not as fast as the power planer, but a nifty idea,
especially for a consistant taper or column without screwing around
with the skew.

The piece that I did, even with pulling the planer back and lookit
at the cuts it was taken, didn't take more than about 30 seconds to take
it down to about 1". Fast. I would definitely make a jig, especially
if I were ronding anything not very large. Hmmm, I've got some car
parts, I've always wanted to make a big lathe, and I've got some pretty
big trees I'd like gotten rid of. Hmmm. Heh heh.

Well, I'll still leave it to you- but I'm glad it's working for ya.

Wed, Jun 14, 2006, 11:20am (EDT-1) (Prometheus)
doteth ponder:
snip sometimes I've got one big corner sticking off that I'm too lazy
to take back out and saw down with the chainsaw. I guess I had visions
of that corner whacking the top of the plane, and either busting it, or
flipping a running power tool into your leg. snip

I would think with one big corner sticking up, it'd unbalance the
wood enough to make me nervous. I think I'd be more inclined to use the
planer on that with the lathe off. However, if it wasn't totally
unbalanced, I think that lowering the running planer on it - slowly - it
would be fine. That planer chews up a LOT of wood fast. But that's the
nice part, it zips right thru a knot without slowing down.

Actually, it pretty much stops as soon as the trigger is released.
So, even if it did flip on you, I think it'd probably be stopped by the
time it got to you. Even then, it'd have to hit you on the small
portion that exposes the blade, and at th e worst, it ony goes out 1/8".
Personally, I consider it loads less dangerous than a chainsaw, or a
circular saw someon's locked the guard up, or even a power drill.



JOAT
Politician \Pol`i*ti"cian\, n. Latin for career criminal

In article ,
(J T) wrote:

Used to post here every once in awhile, but that's been long ago.
But, don't worry bout it, I may not be back - more fun over on
rec.woodworking. Don't wanna raise the standards here too high,
don'tcha know?

OK everybody let's show JOAT how much we appreciate his participation
over here on the quiet side. Let's all send him an email telling him how
much we'd like him to stay! ;o)

--
Owen Lowe

Northwest Woodturners
Pacific Northwest Woodturning Guild
___
Tips fer Turnin': Place a sign, easily seen as you switch on your lathe, warning you to remove any and all rings from your fingers. Called degloving, extended hardware can grab your ring and rip it off your finger. A pic for the strong of stomach: www.itim.nsw.gov.au/go/objectid/2A3AC703-1321-1C29-70B067DC88E16BFC/index.cfm

Besides, rings can easily mar the surface of a turning as you check for finished smoothness.

Owen Lowe wrote:

In article ,
(J T) wrote:

Used to post here every once in awhile, but that's been long ago.
But, don't worry bout it, I may not be back - more fun over on
rec.woodworking. Don't wanna raise the standards here too high,
don'tcha know?

OK everybody let's show JOAT how much we appreciate his participation
over here on the quiet side. Let's all send him an email telling him
how much we'd like him to stay! ;o)


Let's YOU send him an email first. )

Wed, Jun 14, 2006, 3:55pm (EDT-3) (Owen*Lowe)
doth mumble:
OK everybody let's show JOAT how much we appreciate his participation
over here on the quiet side. Let's all send him an email telling him how
much we'd like him to stay! * ;o)

Hi Owen. I'm waving hello. Can you see me? Guess how many
fingers I'm using.



JOAT
Politician \Pol`i*ti"cian\, n. Latin for career criminal

On Wed, 14 Jun 2006 13:29:19 -0400, (J T)
wrote:

Wed, Jun 14, 2006, 11:20am (EDT-1) (Prometheus)
doteth ponder:
snip sometimes I've got one big corner sticking off that I'm too lazy
to take back out and saw down with the chainsaw. I guess I had visions
of that corner whacking the top of the plane, and either busting it, or
flipping a running power tool into your leg. snip

I would think with one big corner sticking up, it'd unbalance the
wood enough to make me nervous. I think I'd be more inclined to use the
planer on that with the lathe off. However, if it wasn't totally
unbalanced, I think that lowering the running planer on it - slowly - it
would be fine. That planer chews up a LOT of wood fast. But that's the
nice part, it zips right thru a knot without slowing down.

Well, maybe I will try it out sometime- though I'm pretty lax about
prepping my blanks, and the roughing phase is usually kind of an
adventure. What kind of finish does it leave you with? That might be
more important than how fast you can chew off wood. Sometimes that
roughing gouge pulls the knots right out, and leaves a big hole.

Actually, it pretty much stops as soon as the trigger is released.
So, even if it did flip on you, I think it'd probably be stopped by the
time it got to you. Even then, it'd have to hit you on the small
portion that exposes the blade, and at th e worst, it ony goes out 1/8".
Personally, I consider it loads less dangerous than a chainsaw, or a
circular saw someon's locked the guard up, or even a power drill.

There is that, part of the reason I don't prep that much is that I'm
not a huge fan of using the chainsaw to knock corners off bowl blanks-
when you put it into perspective that way, it probably isn't much
worse than having a blank start jumping around with 16" of spinning
blade within reach of your legs. That's not even considering the time
or two I used the table saw for that job (That is now on my list of
stupid things not to do again.)

Thu, Jun 15, 2006, 12:16am (EDT-1) (Prometheus)
sayeth:
Well, maybe I will try it snip What kind of finish does it leave you
with? snip

At your own risk, of course. Actually, I'm completely comfortable
with trying it again. Well, I was working to my left, because I didn't
feel like pulling the lathe out far. So, I didn't have the control I
would have otherwise. The surface was a bit rough, but not bad.
However, if I'd used a jig of some sort so I could have slid the planer
back and forth, the finish would have been pretty smooth. Speculation
at this point, because it's my first experience with one of those
thingies. Doesn't matter to me tho, because I'd figured on finishing up
with lathe tools anyway.



JOAT
Politician \Pol`i*ti"cian\, n. Latin for career criminal

In article ,
(J T) wrote:

Hi Owen. I'm waving hello. Can you see me? Guess how many
fingers I'm using.

That's so nice of you Joat. I'm sorry about the fingers, didja chop off
the other 4 in a lathe accident?

--
Owen Lowe

Northwest Woodturners
Pacific Northwest Woodturning Guild
___
Tips fer Turnin': Place a sign, easily seen as you switch on your lathe, warning you to remove any and all rings from your fingers. Called degloving, extended hardware can grab your ring and rip it off your finger. A pic for the strong of stomach: www.itim.nsw.gov.au/go/objectid/2A3AC703-1321-1C29-70B067DC88E16BFC/index.cfm

Besides, rings can easily mar the surface of a turning as you check for finished smoothness.

In article 2p2kg.6157$WM4.5442@trnddc01,
Lobby Dosser wrote:

Let's YOU send him an email first. )

Who, ME? No thanks, poking him every now and then on the groups is
enough excitement!

--
Owen Lowe

Northwest Woodturners
Pacific Northwest Woodturning Guild
___
Tips fer Turnin': Place a sign, easily seen as you switch on your lathe, warning you to remove any and all rings from your fingers. Called degloving, extended hardware can grab your ring and rip it off your finger. A pic for the strong of stomach: www.itim.nsw.gov.au/go/objectid/2A3AC703-1321-1C29-70B067DC88E16BFC/index.cfm

Besides, rings can easily mar the surface of a turning as you check for finished smoothness.