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I know this isnt a diy question, but us diy'ers use vacuum cleaners after
our work.What do people think of these bagless cleaners? I've had a couple
of Dysons, they suck well but when they are emptied I get dust particles
flying up in the air even after sealing it with a bag ,plus after a few
months they look mucky through the see thru' plastic , I agree bags will
slowly reduce the suction, but by how much? will it be noticable..anyway I
got fed up with my dirty Dyson and now have got a very good bagged cleaner
and when its full I slide it off and into the bin ,no dust particles flying
at all..very very clean!


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In article , Howard
writes
I know this isnt a diy question, but us diy'ers use vacuum cleaners after
our work.What do people think of these bagless cleaners? I've had a couple
of Dysons, they suck well but when they are emptied I get dust particles
flying up in the air even after sealing it with a bag ,plus after a few
months they look mucky through the see thru' plastic , I agree bags will
slowly reduce the suction, but by how much? will it be noticable..anyway I
got fed up with my dirty Dyson and now have got a very good bagged cleaner
and when its full I slide it off and into the bin ,no dust particles flying
at all..very very clean!


I think Dysons are a triumph of clever marketing but I still prefer one
with a bag.
(One advantage of dysons is that bagged hoovers* are now much cheaper)

*insert preferred brand here
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I agree that dysons can be a little messy when emptying but I have never
really had a problem with it. Perhaps that's because we have wheely bins
round here so you can hold the cylinder right at the bottom of the bin
when emptying.

As for the plastic being dirty you can clean it along with the rest of
the gubbins.

After using our dyson for DIY for about 6 month (sucking up filler dust
and other fine particles) I noticed it didn't suck as well as it did
before (yes I had been cleaning the motor filter). I noticed that the
little perforations in the collection chamber were nearly all blocked
but there is no way, normally, to get to them and clean them.

I intend to put together a page about how to clean the canister but here
are a few quick instructions:

1)Open the base as you would to empty the contents and leave it open
(this is needed to remove the clear plastic cylinder).
2)Remove the three screws on the top
3)Lift off top. It will be very dirty in here.
4)Push release clip on the front and take off clear plastic cylinder
5)Carefully slide vanes down. This can be hard but they do come off.
6)Pull off perforated plastic

Note: The top section doesn't come to bits. It seems to be glued together.

7)Take all the parts outside and spray with hose giving the clear
plastic a bit of a scrub if needed. There are no metal parts to go rusty
and mine has suffered this treatment a few times. If you have the
multiple cyclone types DC07 squirt water down the cyclones from the top.

8)Once clean (it can take a bit) give the top bit a really good shake to
get water out. There are some very twisty pipes in there which seem to
love holding onto water. Place in the airing cupboard for at least 3
days probably more like a week until you can't hear water when you shake it.

9)Put everything back together. Make sure you have the opening rod in
the opening hole _before_ you close the base.

10)Marvel at you clean dyson and the fact it now sucks like new.

Graham



Howard wrote:
I know this isnt a diy question, but us diy'ers use vacuum cleaners after
our work.What do people think of these bagless cleaners? I've had a couple
of Dysons, they suck well but when they are emptied I get dust particles
flying up in the air even after sealing it with a bag ,plus after a few
months they look mucky through the see thru' plastic , I agree bags will
slowly reduce the suction, but by how much? will it be noticable..anyway I
got fed up with my dirty Dyson and now have got a very good bagged cleaner
and when its full I slide it off and into the bin ,no dust particles flying
at all..very very clean!


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I know this isnt a diy question, but us diy'ers use vacuum cleaners after
our work.What do people think of these bagless cleaners?


If you're going to stay around on uk.d-i-y, you'll need a Henry. ;-)

Best place to empty them is outside, so you don't care about the dust.

Christian.


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Christian McArdle wrote:
I know this isnt a diy question, but us diy'ers use vacuum cleaners after
our work.What do people think of these bagless cleaners?



If you're going to stay around on uk.d-i-y, you'll need a Henry. ;-)

Best place to empty them is outside, so you don't care about the dust.

Christian.


Is a Henry any good for use as a normal household vaccum or is it better
suited for workshop use?


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Yes , the answer is to go outside,but,say if your on the top floor of a 10
storey block and the lifts are broke....Dysons are good idea and work well,
its just that I could not put up with non cleaniness any longer, a bag is
sooo much cleaner all round, I dont need to take my new bagged one to bits
to clean it 'cos it dont get dirty

"Cuprager" wrote in message
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Christian McArdle wrote:
I know this isnt a diy question, but us diy'ers use vacuum cleaners after
our work.What do people think of these bagless cleaners?



If you're going to stay around on uk.d-i-y, you'll need a Henry. ;-)

Best place to empty them is outside, so you don't care about the dust.

Christian.


Is a Henry any good for use as a normal household vaccum or is it better
suited for workshop use?



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Is a Henry any good for use as a normal household vaccum or is it better
suited for workshop use?


Yes , the answer is to go outside,but,say if your on the top floor of a

10
storey block and the lifts are broke....


The Henry wins as it is a bagged or bagless cleaner. You can use bags if you
want, but it will work without. So your normal household cleaning can use
the bags. When you're doing serious DIY rubble work which isn't worthy of
the expense and doesn't require the extra filtration, forget the bag.

Christian.



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I don't know if all bagless vacs are the same, but Dyson is not much use
for DIY. If you create fine dust then the filters clog as quick in a
flash. I have 2 vacs, a Dyson for normal household and a bagged one
that is actually designed for cleaning very fine dust, such as laser
printers, I got it VERY cheap. Don't ask!
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I don't know if all bagless vacs are the same, but Dyson is not much use
for DIY. If you create fine dust then the filters clog as quick in a
flash.


The Henry filter is a circle of material about 50cm in diameter. It is nigh
on impossible to clog and you clean it by shaking it over the bin (outdoors)
when you empty it after using it bagless. I imagine it won't require
cleaning if you use bags.

Christian.


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To make this a diy question. I use a dyson, not new, for my
workshop,which is slightly modified for picking up slightly larger
shavings etc. Just saw off the front of the grey holder for the roller
brush. To unblock the channel from roller to rear of machine i use a
metal rod, takes 5 secs. Any blockage anywhere else use air gun. As i
empty this quite often the bag idea is impractical.



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"Howard" wrote
| Yes , the answer is to go outside,but,say if your on the
| top floor of a 10 storey block and the lifts are broke

Then you empty it over the balcony and rely on the fact that no-one's going
to climb up 10 flights of stairs to remonstrate with you -- or that even if
they do they'll be too puffed to throw a decent punch.

Owain


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doozer wrote:

I agree that dysons can be a little messy when emptying but I have never
really had a problem with it. Perhaps that's because we have wheely bins
round here so you can hold the cylinder right at the bottom of the bin
when emptying.

As for the plastic being dirty you can clean it along with the rest of
the gubbins.

After using our dyson for DIY for about 6 month (sucking up filler dust
and other fine particles) I noticed it didn't suck as well as it did
before (yes I had been cleaning the motor filter). I noticed that the
little perforations in the collection chamber were nearly all blocked
but there is no way, normally, to get to them and clean them.

I intend to put together a page about how to clean the canister but here
are a few quick instructions:

1)Open the base as you would to empty the contents and leave it open
(this is needed to remove the clear plastic cylinder).
2)Remove the three screws on the top
3)Lift off top. It will be very dirty in here.
4)Push release clip on the front and take off clear plastic cylinder
5)Carefully slide vanes down. This can be hard but they do come off.
6)Pull off perforated plastic

Note: The top section doesn't come to bits. It seems to be glued together.

7)Take all the parts outside and spray with hose giving the clear
plastic a bit of a scrub if needed. There are no metal parts to go rusty
and mine has suffered this treatment a few times. If you have the
multiple cyclone types DC07 squirt water down the cyclones from the top.

8)Once clean (it can take a bit) give the top bit a really good shake to
get water out. There are some very twisty pipes in there which seem to
love holding onto water. Place in the airing cupboard for at least 3
days probably more like a week until you can't hear water when you shake
it.

9)Put everything back together. Make sure you have the opening rod in
the opening hole _before_ you close the base.

10)Marvel at you clean dyson and the fact it now sucks like new.

Graham

Or buy a cloth bagged 50 quidder and wash the bag after 6 months.

My panaosonc cloth bagger is still going strong after about 8 yeasr of
sucking up plaster, sand, and balsa dust.

No bags bought ever. Cost when new 59.99
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The Natural Philosopher wrote:
doozer wrote:

I agree that dysons can be a little messy when emptying but I have
never really had a problem with it. Perhaps that's because we have
wheely bins round here so you can hold the cylinder right at the
bottom of the bin when emptying.

As for the plastic being dirty you can clean it along with the rest of
the gubbins.

After using our dyson for DIY for about 6 month (sucking up filler
dust and other fine particles) I noticed it didn't suck as well as it
did before (yes I had been cleaning the motor filter). I noticed that
the little perforations in the collection chamber were nearly all
blocked but there is no way, normally, to get to them and clean them.

I intend to put together a page about how to clean the canister but
here are a few quick instructions:

1)Open the base as you would to empty the contents and leave it open
(this is needed to remove the clear plastic cylinder).
2)Remove the three screws on the top
3)Lift off top. It will be very dirty in here.
4)Push release clip on the front and take off clear plastic cylinder
5)Carefully slide vanes down. This can be hard but they do come off.
6)Pull off perforated plastic

Note: The top section doesn't come to bits. It seems to be glued
together.

7)Take all the parts outside and spray with hose giving the clear
plastic a bit of a scrub if needed. There are no metal parts to go
rusty and mine has suffered this treatment a few times. If you have
the multiple cyclone types DC07 squirt water down the cyclones from
the top.

8)Once clean (it can take a bit) give the top bit a really good shake
to get water out. There are some very twisty pipes in there which seem
to love holding onto water. Place in the airing cupboard for at least
3 days probably more like a week until you can't hear water when you
shake it.

9)Put everything back together. Make sure you have the opening rod in
the opening hole _before_ you close the base.

10)Marvel at you clean dyson and the fact it now sucks like new.

Graham

Or buy a cloth bagged 50 quidder and wash the bag after 6 months.

My panaosonc cloth bagger is still going strong after about 8 yeasr of
sucking up plaster, sand, and balsa dust.

No bags bought ever. Cost when new 59.99


Yeah I stupidly gave my cheepo bagged vacuum cleaner away (although it
went to a needy cause) when we moved house thinking the dyson was the
ultimate vacuum cleaner. Dysons are great for general house hold dirt
but terrible with fine dust.
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On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 18:27:39 UTC, "Owain"
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"Howard" wrote
| Yes , the answer is to go outside,but,say if your on the
| top floor of a 10 storey block and the lifts are broke

Then you empty it over the balcony and rely on the fact that no-one's going
to climb up 10 flights of stairs to remonstrate with you -- or that even if
they do they'll be too puffed to throw a decent punch.


'course they'll be puffed - their lungs will be clogged with dust!

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Entering this debate late, but;

The cyclonic action much spouted by Dyson has been used in industry for
years, that's why all commercial vacuums are round.

Last research I read showed that a Henry with a clogged filter still
had more suction than a new Dyson.

Henry is made by Numatic International in Chard, something of a rare
British success story. Easy to repair with cheap parts.

Numatic have a huge range of vacs, including workshop extractors etc.

No, I don't work for them....

Dave



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The Natural Philosopher wrote:

Or buy a cloth bagged 50 quidder and wash the bag after 6 months.

My panaosonc cloth bagger is still going strong after about 8 yeasr

of
sucking up plaster, sand, and balsa dust.

No bags bought ever. Cost when new 59.99


Sure does work if theyre designed right. I had a cloth filter one that
looked all of 50 years old, still working fine.

I'm wondering why folk are saying bagged is better than cyclone though.
The only difference is bags reduce suction, and partially clog,
reducing it much further. And they often clog quickly on building dust,
depending on bag design. Any other difference is down to the individual
hoover design, not down to bag vs cyclone. Cyclone is very much
superior. Try a non-dyson cyclone.

NT

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"Howard" wrote:

Yes , the answer is to go outside,but,say if your on the top floor of a 10
storey block and the lifts are broke....Dysons are good idea and work well,
its just that I could not put up with non cleaniness any longer, a bag is
sooo much cleaner all round, I dont need to take my new bagged one to bits
to clean it 'cos it dont get dirty


The choice is yours, either a clean house or a clean vacuum cleaner.
The Dyson wins hands down. Bag vacuum cleaner are just total ****e
PERIOD

Vac your floors with a new bagged cleaner using a new bag, then when
you think they are clean, fit a new bag and see that your cleaner
thinks your floors are really clean. Now take a new Dyson and see how
much crap you pick up from your supposedly clean floors. NO ONE who
sees this would ever use a bagged cleaner again unless they were
terminally stupid/filthy.

Stick the thing in a cupboard after you finish using it and then you
don't have to look at it.


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We had a demo from Kirby, he picked a square foot of carpet and got us to go
over it 50 times with our existing vac, he then put a filter between the fan
and the bag and went over it once, it picked up a fair bit of crud. He also
pointed out that carpets wear due to fine grit at the bottom which abrades
the fibres and breaks them off which is why our old vac bag was full of
carpet fibres. We bought a second hand one and at the same time a cheap rug.
We have two boys who play on the rug and we walk on it daily, just as he
said, the rug is still looking good ( not flat and dull like we'd have
expected ) after 4yrs of heavy use. The bag is always full of dust not
fibres as he said it would be. My hayfever has gone from needing an inhaler
to needing the odd off the shelf antihistamine on really high pollen count
days. We also have a bagless vac which my wife uses ( I admit the Kirby is
bloody heavy ) and emptying that always results in clouds of dust ( I try
not to breath for the few seconds it takes to tip it in the wheely bin and
run back inside ). The Kirby isn't just a vac by the way, there is a carpet
shampoo attachment, and an airgun type spray ( did our fences with it as the
fence paint was water based ). We where aprehensive paying £300 for a used
vac but 4yrs later it's still going strong whereas a friend at work is on
her third Dyson now....

Pete



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"Howard" wrote:

Yes , the answer is to go outside,but,say if your on the top floor of a

10
storey block and the lifts are broke....Dysons are good idea and work

well,
its just that I could not put up with non cleaniness any longer, a bag is
sooo much cleaner all round, I dont need to take my new bagged one to

bits
to clean it 'cos it dont get dirty


The choice is yours, either a clean house or a clean vacuum cleaner.
The Dyson wins hands down. Bag vacuum cleaner are just total ****e
PERIOD

Vac your floors with a new bagged cleaner using a new bag, then when
you think they are clean, fit a new bag and see that your cleaner
thinks your floors are really clean. Now take a new Dyson and see how
much crap you pick up from your supposedly clean floors. NO ONE who
sees this would ever use a bagged cleaner again unless they were
terminally stupid/filthy.

Stick the thing in a cupboard after you finish using it and then you
don't have to look at it.


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No Spam wrote:

"Howard" wrote:


Yes , the answer is to go outside,but,say if your on the top floor of a 10
storey block and the lifts are broke....Dysons are good idea and work well,
its just that I could not put up with non cleaniness any longer, a bag is
sooo much cleaner all round, I dont need to take my new bagged one to bits
to clean it 'cos it dont get dirty



The choice is yours, either a clean house or a clean vacuum cleaner.
The Dyson wins hands down. Bag vacuum cleaner are just total ****e
PERIOD

Vac your floors with a new bagged cleaner using a new bag, then when
you think they are clean, fit a new bag and see that your cleaner
thinks your floors are really clean. Now take a new Dyson and see how
much crap you pick up from your supposedly clean floors. NO ONE who
sees this would ever use a bagged cleaner again unless they were
terminally stupid/filthy.


Oh dear. Then run yur bagged cleaner over it again, and throw teh dyson
away.

Cleaning floors is an iterative proices - each pass gets something like
90% of the carp off, and you keep going till its as clean as you want
it, bagged or bagless, cyclone or mouth to floor resuscitation.

If you want really clean carpets, shampoo teh *******s.

Stick the thing in a cupboard after you finish using it and then you
don't have to look at it.


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Vac your floors with a new bagged cleaner using a new bag, then
when
you think they are clean, fit a new bag and see that your cleaner
thinks your floors are really clean. Now take a new Dyson and see how
much crap you pick up from your supposedly clean floors. NO ONE who
sees this would ever use a bagged cleaner again unless they were
terminally stupid/filthy.

Oldest trick in the book, often used by Kirby or VK sales people.

Every time you vac a carpet you will get more dirt out of it. Try the
'test' the other way around and it will proove the bagged machine is
better.

Dave



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doozer wrote:
I agree that dysons can be a little messy when emptying but I have never
really had a problem with it.


This is a different Howard.

Dyson here just stopped working, as in nothing at all when you
press the 'on' switch.

Is there a fuse inside the bugger? If so where and how do I get
to it?

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Howard wrote:
doozer wrote:

I agree that dysons can be a little messy when emptying but I have
never really had a problem with it.



This is a different Howard.

Dyson here just stopped working, as in nothing at all when you press the
'on' switch.

Is there a fuse inside the bugger? If so where and how do I get to it?


I've not actually got round to taking mine completely to bits yet (as
it's not gone wrong) but I am trying to get hold of an old one to
dismantle.

I know of two dysons that have failed in the way you describe and in
both cases it was a motor burn out, caused in one case at least, by not
cleaning the motor filter. I believe it is quite easy to replace the
motor though and spares should be easy to get hold of.

The main early warning sign of motor strain caused by a blocked filter
is very warm air coming out of the air vents below the collection
cylinder. There is an emergency valve but I am not sure it's enough to
cool the motor and stop damage should the filter become totally blocked.

Graham
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The Natural Philosopher wrote:

No Spam wrote:


Vac your floors with a new bagged cleaner using a new bag, then when
you think they are clean, fit a new bag and see that your cleaner
thinks your floors are really clean. Now take a new Dyson and see how
much crap you pick up from your supposedly clean floors. NO ONE who
sees this would ever use a bagged cleaner again unless they were
terminally stupid/filthy.


Oh dear. Then run yur bagged cleaner over it again, and throw teh dyson
away.

Cleaning floors is an iterative proices - each pass gets something like
90% of the carp off, and you keep going till its as clean as you want
it, bagged or bagless, cyclone or mouth to floor resuscitation.


Read the original post, In case you didn't understand run the bagged
cleaner over it with a NEW bag, THEN put a new bag and run the cleaner
over again - see how little crap is in the bag (like NONE) - the
bagged cleaner can't pick up any more but the muck is still in the
carpet.

Then run over it with a new Dyson (or one that has been well washed
out) - tons of crap comes out of the carpet.

It's not the Kirby test, it is sub different, its not getting 90% on
each pass out either.


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Cuprager wrote in message
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Christian McArdle wrote:
I know this isnt a diy question, but us diy'ers use vacuum cleaners

after
our work.What do people think of these bagless cleaners?



If you're going to stay around on uk.d-i-y, you'll need a Henry. ;-)

Best place to empty them is outside, so you don't care about the

dust.

Christian.


Is a Henry any good for use as a normal household vaccum or is it

better
suited for workshop use?


Mine has been doing both since around 1982!! I had it serviced once,
around 1986 I think. We have other vacuum cleaners too, a lightweight
one which is kept upstairs for bedrooms and use on stairs, and a Hoover
wet/dry vac which is also good for DIY when used dry with a bucket type
filter. But good old Henry is still my favourite :-) I would get one
with cord storage though, which mine doesn't have.

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On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 10:07:58 UTC, "Holly, in France"
wrote:

Cuprager wrote in message
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Is a Henry any good for use as a normal household vaccum or is it

better
suited for workshop use?


Mine has been doing both since around 1982!! I had it serviced once,
around 1986 I think. We have other vacuum cleaners too, a lightweight
one which is kept upstairs for bedrooms and use on stairs, and a Hoover
wet/dry vac which is also good for DIY when used dry with a bucket type
filter. But good old Henry is still my favourite :-) I would get one
with cord storage though, which mine doesn't have.


We have a Henry, a Dyson and an Aquavac. We're going to get rid of the
Dyson (sure I can get a good price on eBay!). The Henry is efficient,
easier to use, and it was a LOT cheaper (than the Dyson)!

Modern Henrys do have cord storage. None of these silly sprint things -
just wind the handle on top and the cord disappears inside...

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On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 10:06:46 UTC, No Spam wrote:

Read the original post, In case you didn't understand run the bagged
cleaner over it with a NEW bag, THEN put a new bag and run the cleaner
over again - see how little crap is in the bag (like NONE) - the
bagged cleaner can't pick up any more but the muck is still in the
carpet.

Then run over it with a new Dyson (or one that has been well washed
out) - tons of crap comes out of the carpet.

It's not the Kirby test, it is sub different, its not getting 90% on
each pass out either.


Well, you're entitled to your opinion.
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doozer wrote:
Howard wrote:

doozer wrote:

I agree that dysons can be a little messy when emptying but I have
never really had a problem with it.




This is a different Howard.

Dyson here just stopped working, as in nothing at all when you press
the 'on' switch.


Graham


Thank you

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Bob Eager wrote in message


Modern Henrys do have cord storage. None of these silly
sprint things - just wind the handle on top and the cord
disappears inside...


Ah, right. When my mum bought hers ISTR they were available with or
without the cord storage, and it was well worth having. There was also a
choice of colour, and she chose beige, instead of a lovely cheeful red
one :-)

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Interesting to note that Dyson has 20% of the US market now beating
Hoover.

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On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 11:47:51 -0000, "Holly, in France"
strung together this:

Ah, right. When my mum bought hers ISTR they were available with or
without the cord storage, and it was well worth having.


They still are, Henry is with cord storage, and the Charles is a Henry
with no cord storage.

There was also a
choice of colour, and she chose beige, instead of a lovely cheeful red
one :-)


It does brighten the day up doesn't it!
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On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 12:52:20 UTC, Lurch
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On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 11:47:51 -0000, "Holly, in France"
strung together this:

Ah, right. When my mum bought hers ISTR they were available with or
without the cord storage, and it was well worth having.


They still are, Henry is with cord storage, and the Charles is a Henry
with no cord storage.


Ah...hadn't realised that!


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Bob Eager wrote:

On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 12:52:20 UTC, Lurch
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On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 11:47:51 -0000, "Holly, in France"
strung together this:


Ah, right. When my mum bought hers ISTR they were available with or
without the cord storage, and it was well worth having.


They still are, Henry is with cord storage, and the Charles is a Henry
with no cord storage.



Ah...hadn't realised that!


So what is a Camilla then?
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On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 14:45:00 UTC, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

Bob Eager wrote:

On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 12:52:20 UTC, Lurch
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On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 11:47:51 -0000, "Holly, in France"
strung together this:


Ah, right. When my mum bought hers ISTR they were available with or
without the cord storage, and it was well worth having.

They still are, Henry is with cord storage, and the Charles is a Henry
with no cord storage.



Ah...hadn't realised that!


So what is a Camilla then?


The bag, of course!
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Bob Eager wrote:

On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 14:45:00 UTC, The Natural Philosopher wrote:


Bob Eager wrote:


On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 12:52:20 UTC, Lurch
wrote:



On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 11:47:51 -0000, "Holly, in France"
strung together this:



Ah, right. When my mum bought hers ISTR they were available with or
without the cord storage, and it was well worth having.

They still are, Henry is with cord storage, and the Charles is a Henry
with no cord storage.


Ah...hadn't realised that!



So what is a Camilla then?



The bag, of course!


Silly me!
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Howard wrote in message . uk...

Dyson here just stopped working, as in nothing at all when you
press the 'on' switch.

Is there a fuse inside the bugger? If so where and how do I get
to it?


I had this happen - thought I'd need a new motor, but google groups
reveals that there is a thermal cutout which disables the unit for ~60
minutes. Try turning the little bugger on again today and see if it
works now !


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Howard wrote in message news:fnYSd.21429$8B
...

Dyson here just stopped working, as in nothing at all when you
press the 'on' switch.

Is there a fuse inside the bugger? If so where and how do I get
to it?


I had this happen - thought I'd need a new motor, but google groups
reveals that there is a thermal cutout which disables the unit for ~60
minutes. Try turning the little bugger on again today and see if it
works now !


Our Dyson DC 04 has a regular fault (annual) where the supply cable
flexes close to the machine. Initially intermittent operation followed
by the conductor arcing clear.

Access to shorten back the cable is via the start/stop button. A thin
blade inserted down the flat side of the button can be used to release
the retaining tang (not easy!) With the button removed, repairs are
straightforward.

regards

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Kirby!

You have to be kidding.
This is a scam marketing company with ludicrous margins.


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This has nothing to do with bagged or bagless design.

If one of the cleaners is not extracting the dirt from the carpet its
purely down to the brush and the suction - neither of which is unique
to a Dyson.

How the vacuum cleaner stores the dirt is separate matter.
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Kirby!

You have to be kidding.
This is a scam marketing company with ludicrous margins.


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"Mike Hall" wrote in message
om...
Howard wrote in message

. uk...

Dyson here just stopped working, as in nothing at all when you
press the 'on' switch.

Is there a fuse inside the bugger? If so where and how do I get
to it?


I had this happen - thought I'd need a new motor, but google groups
reveals that there is a thermal cutout which disables the unit for ~60
minutes. Try turning the little bugger on again today and see if it
works now !


'The Dyson isn't working properly; it's not picking up!" was the
fault report - eventually it got towards the top of the to-do-list.
Cutting a long story short; the plastic moulding from the back
of the rotating brush housing into the suction hose leading to the
cyclonic container was clogged solid! An accumulation of long hairs
compacted with dust and carpet fluff was blocking the suction
path. [Access to the problem area was 'easy'. Undoing a series of
three quarter-turn coloured 'securers' gave complete access to the
moulding and revealed the foot length of gunge.]
A blocked suction path may contribute to an overheating
motor.

Resolved - next time I empty the container ; inspect the brush
housing for gunge build-up.

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