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Part P in Guardian!
Has anyone else seen the article TO DIE FOR by Caroline Roux, The Guardian
Weekend/January 29? http://www.guardian.co.uk/weekend/st...399860,00.html Seems that Part P is starting to be mentioned in the more general media at last. Funny how little I noticed before in came into force. -- Rod www.annalaurie.co.uk |
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What else would you expect from the Grauniad
"Rod Hewitt" wrote in message ... Has anyone else seen the article TO DIE FOR by Caroline Roux, The Guardian Weekend/January 29? http://www.guardian.co.uk/weekend/st...399860,00.html Seems that Part P is starting to be mentioned in the more general media at last. Funny how little I noticed before in came into force. -- Rod www.annalaurie.co.uk |
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Rod Hewitt wrote:
Has anyone else seen the article TO DIE FOR by Caroline Roux, The Guardian Weekend/January 29? http://www.guardian.co.uk/weekend/st...399860,00.html Sigh. I hadn't; but whoever NICEIC hired as a PR company has clearly been doing an effective job... this reporter's been well-blinded with Frightening Numbers, which as usual fail to distinguish between fixed wiring and faulty appliances, and lives in the happy middle-class urban bubble where regulation actually has an *effect*. Where's Brass Eye when you need 'em? ;-) Seems that Part P is starting to be mentioned in the more general media at last. Funny how little I noticed before in came into force. Yes - the canapes-and-Krug from the PRs seem to have been extended to the Archer's scriptwriter too: Mike Tucker's moaning on [nothing new there] about how hard it is to get an electrician in for his new build, as they're all so busy with work 'now that these new regulations have come in'. |
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Rod Hewitt wrote:
Has anyone else seen the article TO DIE FOR by Caroline Roux, The Guardian Weekend/January 29? http://www.guardian.co.uk/weekend/st...399860,00.html Hmmmm, I wonder if the guardian readers are as clueless as the writers... (rhetorical question!) -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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"Stefek Zaba" wrote in message ... Rod Hewitt wrote: Has anyone else seen the article TO DIE FOR by Caroline Roux, The Guardian Weekend/January 29? http://www.guardian.co.uk/weekend/st...399860,00.html Sigh. I hadn't; but whoever NICEIC hired as a PR company has clearly been doing an effective job... this reporter's been well-blinded with Frightening Numbers, which as usual fail to distinguish between fixed wiring and faulty appliances, and lives in the happy middle-class urban bubble where regulation actually has an *effect*. Where's Brass Eye when you need 'em? ;-) Seems that Part P is starting to be mentioned in the more general media at last. Funny how little I noticed before in came into force. Yes - the canapes-and-Krug from the PRs seem to have been extended to the Archer's scriptwriter too: Mike Tucker's moaning on [nothing new there] about how hard it is to get an electrician in for his new build, as they're all so busy with work 'now that these new regulations have come in'. Well fancy that! Is the BCO based in Borchester? How long does it take him/her to visit Ambridge ... ? In the real world (or at least that portion of it that my matrix settings allow me to perceive) the local electrical-contractor has appended the slogan "Part P regulations compliant' to the list of bullet-points on his window. Chatting to some of his workers they opined;- 'We think it's all a tax scheme. There's so much paperwork and certificates now so you can't do the off-the-books-cash-only 'put in another outlet there' job!' Gordon Brown will have better visibility of the jobbing installer thanks to the emanations from the ODPM. -- Brian |
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Rod Hewitt wrote:
Has anyone else seen the article TO DIE FOR by Caroline Roux, The Guardian Weekend/January 29? http://www.guardian.co.uk/weekend/st...399860,00.html Seems that Part P is starting to be mentioned in the more general media at last. Funny how little I noticed before in came into force. Well apart from all the other holes in the article: I was under the impression that adding a spur to a circuit - so long as it wasn't in a kitchen or other special area - would count as minor works.... A quick google says that's the case anyway. |
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On 30 Jan 2005 23:03:30 GMT, Rod Hewitt wrote:
Has anyone else seen the article TO DIE FOR by Caroline Roux, The Guardian Weekend/January 29? http://www.guardian.co.uk/weekend/st...399860,00.html Seems that Part P is starting to be mentioned in the more general media at last. Funny how little I noticed before in came into force. Typical lazy clueless jounalism - just rehashing a govt. press release. |
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Brian Sharrock wrote:
Well fancy that! Is the BCO based in Borchester? How long does it take him/her to visit Ambridge ... ? I think the BCO's been twice: once to check out the footings/foundations, and again to look at the lower courses of the brickwork - the second visit requiring him to knock down and rebuild part of the brickwork already done. Proving I'm no real Archers addict, I'd got the dramatis personae all upgemixt: the self-builder (and Part-P whinger) is Neil Carter; Mike Tucker is his more laid-back sometime helpmate (and wall-integrity-up-screwer). This week's crisis on the self-build front is bouncing cheques and a funding crunch, as previous overruns stretch Neil's already low-contingency budget to, or beyond, breaking point. So that's all clear, then ;-) Dum de dum de dum de dum, dum de dum de dum dum... |
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Dr Evil wrote:
Hmmmm, I wonder if the guardian readers are as clueless as the writers... Far worse. We all sometimes have to do something inane to earn money but surely only teachers and other left wing Trotskyites actually read this ****e. You really are brainwashed aren't you. Get yourself sorted man. Get sorted. Aha, we have an answer. Looks like Mr. Evil here is obviously a Grauniad reader! Looks like you were spot on Mike... -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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"John Rumm" wrote in message ... Dr Evil wrote: Hmmmm, I wonder if the guardian readers are as clueless as the writers... Far worse. We all sometimes have to do something inane to earn money but surely only teachers and other left wing Trotskyites actually read this ****e. You really are brainwashed aren't you. Get yourself sorted man. Get sorted. Aha, we have an answer. Looks like Mr. Evil here is obviously a Grauniad reader! Looks like you were spot on Mike... I find it amazing a man from the impoverish third world supports such right wing crap that keep the likes of you down. Thye must love you. _________________________________________ Usenet Zone Free Binaries Usenet Server More than 120,000 groups Unlimited download http://www.usenetzone.com to open account |
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John Rumm wrote in
: Dr Evil wrote: Hmmmm, I wonder if the guardian readers are as clueless as the writers... Far worse. We all sometimes have to do something inane to earn money but surely only teachers and other left wing Trotskyites actually read this ****e. You really are brainwashed aren't you. Get yourself sorted man. Get sorted. Aha, we have an answer. Looks like Mr. Evil here is obviously a Grauniad reader! Looks like you were spot on Mike... OP was by a G reader! But distinctly less than impressed by this piece. I am writing to her. -- Rod www.annalaurie.co.uk |
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"Rod Hewitt" wrote in message ... John Rumm wrote in : Dr Evil wrote: Hmmmm, I wonder if the guardian readers are as clueless as the writers... Far worse. We all sometimes have to do something inane to earn money but surely only teachers and other left wing Trotskyites actually read this ****e. You really are brainwashed aren't you. Get yourself sorted man. Get sorted. Aha, we have an answer. Looks like Mr. Evil here is obviously a Grauniad reader! Looks like you were spot on Mike... OP was by a G reader! But distinctly less than impressed by this piece. I am writing to her. Can she read ? |
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On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 22:34:47 UTC, "Dr Evil" wrote:
I find it amazing a man from the impoverish third world supports such right wing crap that keep the likes of you down. Thye must love you. With a few more samples, a concordance analysis of 'Dr Evil' will probably show an exact match to IMM - don't people think? -- Bob Eager begin a new life...dump Windows! |
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"Mike Harrison" wrote in message
... On 30 Jan 2005 23:03:30 GMT, Rod Hewitt wrote: Has anyone else seen the article TO DIE FOR by Caroline Roux, The Guardian Weekend/January 29? http://www.guardian.co.uk/weekend/st...399860,00.html Seems that Part P is starting to be mentioned in the more general media at last. Funny how little I noticed before in came into force. Typical lazy clueless jounalism - just rehashing a govt. press release. Interesting comparison to cooking. How many people hold cooking qualifications? I suspect that more people suffer from badly prepared food, and accidents in the kitchen, than from faulty DIY household wiring! -- Michael Chare |
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On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 17:38:05 -0000, "Michael Chare"
strung together this: Interesting comparison to cooking. How many people hold cooking qualifications? I suspect that more people suffer from badly prepared food, and accidents in the kitchen, than from faulty DIY household wiring! Don't let the facts get in the way of a government campaign. -- SJW Please reply to group or use 'usenet' in email subject |
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In message , Michael Chare
writes Interesting comparison to cooking. How many people hold cooking qualifications? I suspect that more people suffer from badly prepared food, and accidents in the kitchen, than from faulty DIY household wiring! How about restricting the use of motor vehicles to people with at least IAM qualification? Must save more lives. Of course, the licence fee would have to be high enough to maintain tax levels. How about an NVQ level in walking? Incompetent pedestrians must also cause many accidents... nobody allowed outside their houses without one. Oh! Most accidents happen in the home! Let's get started on the curriculum for the Living At Home licence examination... -- Joe |
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"Mike" wrote in :
Can she read ? Suspect that she can read but has difficulty with comprehension. :-) -- Rod www.annalaurie.co.uk |
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Joe writes: How about restricting the use of motor vehicles to people with at least IAM qualification? Must save more lives. Of course, the licence fee would have to be high enough to maintain tax levels. That reminds me, did the president of the IAM stand down after his recent speeding offence and driving ban? -- Andrew Gabriel |
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"Andrew Gabriel" wrote in message ... In article , Joe writes: How about restricting the use of motor vehicles to people with at least IAM qualification? Must save more lives. Of course, the licence fee would have to be high enough to maintain tax levels. Just make people take a proper driving test each year (i.e. not the current anybody can pass item). Cost of the test would be the same as the current licence fee, though if they fail it will cost them double of course. Or treble or more in some cases. |
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Andrew Gabriel wrote:
That reminds me, did the president of the IAM stand down after his recent speeding offence and driving ban? Just in case that wasn't rhetorical - yes he did, as asking Google what it knows about "Duke IAM resigned" confirms at the whirring of a modicum of electrons ;-) |
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