"Commander Kinsey" wrote in message
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On Tue, 04 May 2021 03:01:29 +0100, rbowman wrote:

On 05/03/2021 10:13 AM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
Is it to warn you? Even my toilet cistern can slow down smoothly.

On cars? Yes. Cutting the engine abruptly when you hit the red line
wouldn't be good so they simulate ignition breakup to give you a hint.

But at that point you've already gone over the peak of the power curve.
I'd just make it drop the curve more quickly so it can never go too fast.

Not possible to do that and still get the best performance.

The driver would still feel the lack of power.

Makes more sense to have a rev limiter and much easier to do too.


And you ****ed up uk.d-i-y in the newsgroup list, you have uk.diy

On Thu, 6 May 2021 06:34:31 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

FLUSH the two subnormal sociopathic cretins' endless absolutely idiotic
blather

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Ozzietard:

Birdbrain: "Horse **** doesn't stink."

Senile Rodent: "It does if you roll in it."

Birdbrain: "I've never worked out why, I assumed it was maybe meateaters
that made stinky ****, but then why does vegetarian human **** stink? Is it
just the fact that we're capable of digesting meat?"

Senile Rodent: "Nope, some cow **** stinks too."

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On 6/05/21 8:45 am, Peeler wrote:
On Thu, 6 May 2021 06:34:31 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

FLUSH the two subnormal sociopathic cretins' endless absolutely idiotic
blather


If Peler remains captured, he can tie himself in an overhand knot, which
works its way from the head to the tail

On Thu, 6 May 2021 11:17:02 +1200, Peter Keller, the dumb gay little
masochist, blabbered again:

On 6/05/21 8:45 am, Peeler wrote:
On Thu, 6 May 2021 06:34:31 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

FLUSH the two subnormal sociopathic cretins' endless absolutely idiotic
blather


If Peler remains captured, he can tie himself in an overhand knot, which
works its way from the head to the tail

LOL You must be the dumbest gay ****ty little byker cycling through the UK's
streets!

On Thu, 06 May 2021 06:34:31 +1000, Rod Speed wrote:

"Commander Kinsey" wrote in message
news
On Tue, 04 May 2021 03:01:29 +0100, rbowman wrote:

On 05/03/2021 10:13 AM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
Is it to warn you? Even my toilet cistern can slow down smoothly.

On cars? Yes. Cutting the engine abruptly when you hit the red line
wouldn't be good so they simulate ignition breakup to give you a hint.

But at that point you've already gone over the peak of the power curve.
I'd just make it drop the curve more quickly so it can never go too
fast.

Not possible to do that and still get the best performance.

The driver would still feel the lack of power.

Makes more sense to have a rev limiter and much easier to do too.


And you ****ed up uk.d-i-y in the newsgroup list, you have uk.diy


Had a rev limiter on my RS1600 with electronic ignition in 1975, it worked
well at 6700 rpm.

On 6/05/21 7:03 pm, Peeler wrote:
On Thu, 6 May 2021 11:17:02 +1200, Peter Keller, the dumb gay little
masochist, blabbered again:

On 6/05/21 8:45 am, Peeler wrote:
On Thu, 6 May 2021 06:34:31 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

FLUSH the two subnormal sociopathic cretins' endless absolutely idiotic
blather


If Peler remains captured, he can tie himself in an overhand knot, which
works its way from the head to the tail

LOL You must be the dumbest gay ****ty little byker cycling through the UK's
streets!


Rheological investigations showed that Peeler's slime viscosity
increases in elongational flow which favours gill clogging of suction
feeding fish, while its viscosity decreases in shear which facilitates
scraping off the slime by the travelling-knot.

On Thu, 6 May 2021 22:39:14 +1200, Peter Keller, the dumb gay little
masochist, blabbered again:


LOL You must be the dumbest gay ****ty little byker cycling through the UK's
streets!


Rheological investigations showed that Peeler's slime viscosity
increases in elongational flow which favours gill clogging of suction
feeding fish, while its viscosity decreases in shear which facilitates
scraping off the slime by the travelling-knot.

IOW, you ARE the dumbest gay ****ty little byker cycling in the UK's
streets! LOL

On Wed, 05 May 2021 21:34:31 +0100, Rod Speed wrote:



"Commander Kinsey" wrote in message
news
On Tue, 04 May 2021 03:01:29 +0100, rbowman wrote:

On 05/03/2021 10:13 AM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
Is it to warn you? Even my toilet cistern can slow down smoothly.

On cars? Yes. Cutting the engine abruptly when you hit the red line
wouldn't be good so they simulate ignition breakup to give you a hint.

But at that point you've already gone over the peak of the power curve.
I'd just make it drop the curve more quickly so it can never go too fast.

Not possible to do that and still get the best performance.

You're getting **** all performance if you've gone over the power curve anyway.

The driver would still feel the lack of power.

Makes more sense to have a rev limiter and much easier to do too.

And you ****ed up uk.d-i-y in the newsgroup list, you have uk.diy

No, the guy that made the group ****ed it up. How did you notice?

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On Thu, 06 May 2021 08:25:16 +0100, jon wrote:

On Thu, 06 May 2021 06:34:31 +1000, Rod Speed wrote:

"Commander Kinsey" wrote in message
news
On Tue, 04 May 2021 03:01:29 +0100, rbowman wrote:

On 05/03/2021 10:13 AM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
Is it to warn you? Even my toilet cistern can slow down smoothly.

On cars? Yes. Cutting the engine abruptly when you hit the red line
wouldn't be good so they simulate ignition breakup to give you a hint.

But at that point you've already gone over the peak of the power curve.
I'd just make it drop the curve more quickly so it can never go too
fast.

Not possible to do that and still get the best performance.

The driver would still feel the lack of power.

Makes more sense to have a rev limiter and much easier to do too.


And you ****ed up uk.d-i-y in the newsgroup list, you have uk.diy


Had a rev limiter on my RS1600 with electronic ignition in 1975, it worked
well at 6700 rpm.

I did not have a rev limiter on my Renault Espace built in 1993. I broke the engine badly. I thought they all had them by then!

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"Commander Kinsey" wrote in message
news
On Wed, 05 May 2021 21:34:31 +0100, Rod Speed
wrote:



"Commander Kinsey" wrote in message
news
On Tue, 04 May 2021 03:01:29 +0100, rbowman wrote:

On 05/03/2021 10:13 AM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
Is it to warn you? Even my toilet cistern can slow down smoothly.

On cars? Yes. Cutting the engine abruptly when you hit the red line
wouldn't be good so they simulate ignition breakup to give you a hint.

But at that point you've already gone over the peak of the power curve.
I'd just make it drop the curve more quickly so it can never go too
fast.

Not possible to do that and still get the best performance.

You're getting **** all performance if you've gone over the power curve
anyway.

It doesn't drop off that dramatically.

The driver would still feel the lack of power.

Makes more sense to have a rev limiter and much easier to do too.

And you ****ed up uk.d-i-y in the newsgroup list, you have uk.diy

No, the guy that made the group ****ed it up. How did you notice?

My news client whinged about it not being a valid newsgroup.

On Fri, 7 May 2021 03:49:15 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

FLUSH the two subnormal sociopathic cretins' endless absolutely idiotic
blather

Another typical retarded "conversation" between the two resident idiots:

Birdbrain: "But imagine how cool it was to own slaves."

Senile Rodent: "Yeah, right. Feed them, clothe them, and fix them when
they're broken.
After all, you paid good money for them. Then you've got to keep an eye
on them all the time."

Birdbrain: "Better than having to give them wages on top of that."

Senile Rodent: "Specially when they make more slaves for you
and produce their own food and clothes."

MID:

On 06/05/2021 18:35, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Wed, 05 May 2021 21:34:31 +0100, Rod Speed
wrote:



"Commander Kinsey" wrote in message
news
On Tue, 04 May 2021 03:01:29 +0100, rbowman wrote:

On 05/03/2021 10:13 AM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
Is it to warn you?Â* Even my toilet cistern can slow down smoothly.

On cars? Yes. Cutting the engine abruptly when you hit the red line
wouldn't be good so they simulate ignition breakup to give you a hint.

But at that point you've already gone over the peak of the power curve.
I'd just make it drop the curve more quickly so it can never go too
fast.

Not possible to do that and still get the best performance.

You're getting **** all performance if you've gone over the power curve
anyway.

That depends entirely on how the engine is set up. A turbocharged angine
for racing can easily be delivering nearly flat torque all the way to
disitegration and will develop full power on the limiters edge


The driver would still feel the lack of power.

Makes more sense to have a rev limiter and much easier to do too.

And you ****ed up uk.d-i-y in the newsgroup list, you have uk.diy

No, the guy that made the group ****ed it up.Â* How did you notice?



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and people tell those stories because everyone important believes them.
Indeed, when a conventional wisdom is at its fullest strength, ones
agreement with that conventional wisdom becomes almost a litmus test of
ones suitability to be taken seriously.€�

Paul Krugman

On 06/05/2021 18:36, Commander Kinsey wrote:
I did not have a rev limiter on my Renault Espace built in 1993.Â* I
broke the engine badly.

That shows what a stupid **** you are then



--
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and people tell those stories because everyone important believes them.
Indeed, when a conventional wisdom is at its fullest strength, ones
agreement with that conventional wisdom becomes almost a litmus test of
ones suitability to be taken seriously.€�

Paul Krugman

On Thu, 6 May 2021 21:05:33 +0100, The Natural Idiot, the notorious,
troll-feeding senile asshole, blathered again:

On 06/05/2021 18:35, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Wed, 05 May 2021 21:34:31 +0100, Rod Speed
wrote:



"Commander Kinsey" wrote in message
news On Tue, 04 May 2021 03:01:29 +0100, rbowman wrote:

On 05/03/2021 10:13 AM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
Is it to warn you?* Even my toilet cistern can slow down smoothly.

On cars? Yes. Cutting the engine abruptly when you hit the red line
wouldn't be good so they simulate ignition breakup to give you a hint.

But at that point you've already gone over the peak of the power curve.
I'd just make it drop the curve more quickly so it can never go too
fast.

Not possible to do that and still get the best performance.

You're getting **** all performance if you've gone over the power curve
anyway.

That depends entirely on how the engine is set up.

He doesn't set up engines, he sets up baits for all you senile assholes who
are THANKFUL when they get baited by the dumbest trolling psycho around!

On 7/05/21 12:12 am, Peeler wrote:
On Thu, 6 May 2021 22:39:14 +1200, Peter Keller, the dumb gay little
masochist, blabbered again:


LOL You must be the dumbest gay ****ty little byker cycling through the UK's
streets!


Rheological investigations showed that Peeler's slime viscosity
increases in elongational flow which favours gill clogging of suction
feeding fish, while its viscosity decreases in shear which facilitates
scraping off the slime by the travelling-knot.

IOW, you ARE the dumbest gay ****ty little byker cycling in the UK's
streets! LOL

Peeler generally respires by taking in water through his pharynx, past
the velar chamber, and bringing the water through the 16 internal gill
pouches.

On 7/05/21 6:25 am, Peeler wrote:
On Fri, 7 May 2021 03:49:15 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

FLUSH the two subnormal sociopathic cretins' endless absolutely idiotic
blather

Another typical retarded "conversation" between the two resident idiots:

Birdbrain: "But imagine how cool it was to own slaves."

Senile Rodent: "Yeah, right. Feed them, clothe them, and fix them when
they're broken.
After all, you paid good money for them. Then you've got to keep an eye
on them all the time."

Birdbrain: "Better than having to give them wages on top of that."

Senile Rodent: "Specially when they make more slaves for you
and produce their own food and clothes."

MID:

Peeler's oesophagus is also connected to the left branchial opening,
which is therefore larger than the right one, through a
pharyngocutaneous duct (oesophageocutaneous duct), which has no
respiratory tissue.

On 7/05/21 9:06 am, Peeler wrote:
On Thu, 6 May 2021 21:05:33 +0100, The Natural Idiot, the notorious,
troll-feeding senile asshole, blathered again:

On 06/05/2021 18:35, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Wed, 05 May 2021 21:34:31 +0100, Rod Speed
wrote:



"Commander Kinsey" wrote in message
news On Tue, 04 May 2021 03:01:29 +0100, rbowman wrote:

On 05/03/2021 10:13 AM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
Is it to warn you?Â* Even my toilet cistern can slow down smoothly.

On cars? Yes. Cutting the engine abruptly when you hit the red line
wouldn't be good so they simulate ignition breakup to give you a hint.

But at that point you've already gone over the peak of the power curve.
I'd just make it drop the curve more quickly so it can never go too
fast.

Not possible to do that and still get the best performance.

You're getting **** all performance if you've gone over the power curve
anyway.

That depends entirely on how the engine is set up.

He doesn't set up engines, he sets up baits for all you senile assholes who
are THANKFUL when they get baited by the dumbest trolling psycho around!


Peeler's pharyngocutaneous duct is used to clear large particles from
the pharynx, a function also partly taking place through the
nasopharyngeal canal.

On 06/05/2021 18:35, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Wed, 05 May 2021 21:34:31 +0100, Rod Speed
"Commander Kinsey" wrote in message

But at that point you've already gone over the peak of the power curve.
I'd just make it drop the curve more quickly so it can never go too
fast.

Not possible to do that and still get the best performance.

You're getting **** all performance if you've gone over the power curve
anyway.

It's a primitive technique for an engine under-endowed with torque. When
you change up, there is an inevitable drop in power so the idea of
revving beyond peak power is to get further up the curve in the next gear.

On 07/05/2021 11:54, TMS320 wrote:
On 06/05/2021 18:35, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Wed, 05 May 2021 21:34:31 +0100, Rod Speed
"Commander Kinsey" wrote in message

But at that point you've already gone over the peak of the power curve.
I'd just make it drop the curve more quickly so it can never go too
fast.

Not possible to do that and still get the best performance.

You're getting **** all performance if you've gone over the power
curve anyway.

It's a primitive technique for an engine under-endowed with torque. When
you change up, there is an inevitable drop in power so the idea of
revving beyond peak power is to get further up the curve in the next gear.

Kinsey simply has no idea.
In the old days you strangle the breathing so customers wouldn't over
rev the engine as it was obvious that you would get more power at lower
revs.

But even my MG midgets of 1970s vintage could produce more power beyond
the orange and up into the red, by dint of having more carburation

Turbo and supercharging makes it even easier to get good torque at te
top of the rev band

These days you cant get 'over the power curve'


--
Its easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled.
Mark Twain

On Fri, 7 May 2021 11:54:14 +0100, TMS320, another mentally challenged,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blathered:


You're getting **** all performance if you've gone over the power curve
anyway.

It's a primitive technique for an engine under-endowed with torque.

It's a PRIMITIVE TROLL, you senile swallower of every troll bait! tsk

On 8/05/21 2:41 am, Peeler wrote:
On Fri, 7 May 2021 11:54:14 +0100, TMS320, another mentally challenged,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blathered:


You're getting **** all performance if you've gone over the power curve
anyway.

It's a primitive technique for an engine under-endowed with torque.

It's a PRIMITIVE TROLL, you senile swallower of every troll bait! tsk

The unidirectional water flow passing Peeler's gills is produced by
rolling and unrolling velar folds located inside a chamber developed
from the nasohypophyseal tract, and is operated by a complex set of
muscles inserting into cartilages of the neurocranium, assisted by
peristaltic contractions of the gill pouches and their ducts.

On Sat, 8 May 2021 20:24:07 +1200, Peter Keller, the dumb gay little
masochist, blabbered again:


It's a PRIMITIVE TROLL, you senile swallower of every troll bait! tsk

The unidirectional water flow passing Peeler's gills is produced by

Someone needs to flush the **** out of your skull where it keeps fomenting
incessantly, you demented gay cyclist! LOL

On 8/05/21 9:13 pm, Peeler wrote:
On Sat, 8 May 2021 20:24:07 +1200, Peter Keller, the dumb gay little
masochist, blabbered again:


It's a PRIMITIVE TROLL, you senile swallower of every troll bait! tsk

The unidirectional water flow passing Peeler's gills is produced by

Someone needs to flush the **** out of your skull where it keeps fomenting
incessantly, you demented gay cyclist! LOL

Peeler also has a well-developed dermal capillary network that supplies
the skin with oxygen when he is buried in anoxic mud, as well as a high
tolerance for both hypoxia and anoxia, with a well developed anaerobic
metabolism.

On Thu, 06 May 2021 21:05:33 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

On 06/05/2021 18:35, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Wed, 05 May 2021 21:34:31 +0100, Rod Speed
wrote:



"Commander Kinsey" wrote in message
news On Tue, 04 May 2021 03:01:29 +0100, rbowman wrote:

On 05/03/2021 10:13 AM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
Is it to warn you? Even my toilet cistern can slow down smoothly.

On cars? Yes. Cutting the engine abruptly when you hit the red line
wouldn't be good so they simulate ignition breakup to give you a hint.

But at that point you've already gone over the peak of the power curve.
I'd just make it drop the curve more quickly so it can never go too
fast.

Not possible to do that and still get the best performance.

You're getting **** all performance if you've gone over the power curve
anyway.

That depends entirely on how the engine is set up. A turbocharged angine
for racing can easily be delivering nearly flat torque all the way to
disitegration and will develop full power on the limiters edge

I've never seen a power curve like that. Admittedly I've usually looked at curves for residential [1] cars, but I've seen a handful for racing.

That really isn't the word I want to use there.

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On Fri, 07 May 2021 11:54:14 +0100, TMS320 wrote:

On 06/05/2021 18:35, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Wed, 05 May 2021 21:34:31 +0100, Rod Speed
"Commander Kinsey" wrote in message

But at that point you've already gone over the peak of the power curve.
I'd just make it drop the curve more quickly so it can never go too
fast.

Not possible to do that and still get the best performance.

You're getting **** all performance if you've gone over the power curve
anyway.

It's a primitive technique for an engine under-endowed with torque. When
you change up, there is an inevitable drop in power so the idea of
revving beyond peak power is to get further up the curve in the next gear.

Perhaps there should be more gears then.

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On 10/05/2021 19:09, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Thu, 06 May 2021 21:05:33 +0100, The Natural Philosopher
wrote:

On 06/05/2021 18:35, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Wed, 05 May 2021 21:34:31 +0100, Rod Speed
wrote:



"Commander Kinsey" wrote in message
news On Tue, 04 May 2021 03:01:29 +0100, rbowman
wrote:

On 05/03/2021 10:13 AM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
Is it to warn you?Â* Even my toilet cistern can slow down smoothly.

On cars? Yes. Cutting the engine abruptly when you hit the red line
wouldn't be good so they simulate ignition breakup to give you a
hint.

But at that point you've already gone over the peak of the power
curve.
I'd just make it drop the curve more quickly so it can never go too
fast.

Not possible to do that and still get the best performance.

You're getting **** all performance if you've gone over the power curve
anyway.

That depends entirely on how the engine is set up. A turbocharged angine
for racing can easily be delivering nearly flat torque all the way to
disitegration and will develop full power on the limiters edge

I've never seen a power curve like that.

Its not my fault you are a thick ignorant ****, is it?



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fill the world with fools.€�

Herbert Spencer

On Thu, 06 May 2021 21:06:10 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

On 06/05/2021 18:36, Commander Kinsey wrote:
I did not have a rev limiter on my Renault Espace built in 1993. I
broke the engine badly.

That shows what a stupid **** you are then

Why would anyone expect a car from 1993 not to have a limiter?

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On 11/05/2021 18:52, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Thu, 06 May 2021 21:06:10 +0100, The Natural Philosopher
wrote:

On 06/05/2021 18:36, Commander Kinsey wrote:
I did not have a rev limiter on my Renault Espace built in 1993.Â* I
broke the engine badly.

That shows what a stupid **** you are then

Why would anyone expect a car from 1993 not to have a limiter?

Because they were a stupid ****?

--
The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to
rule.
€“ H. L. Mencken, American journalist, 1880-1956

On Tue, 11 May 2021 19:26:55 +0100, The Natural Idiot, the notorious,
troll-feeding senile asshole, blathered again:


Why would anyone expect a car from 1993 not to have a limiter?

Because they were a stupid ****?

Says the stupid **** that keeps feeding the clinically insane sociopathic
troll! G

On 10/05/2021 19:10, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Fri, 07 May 2021 11:54:14 +0100, TMS320 wrote:
On 06/05/2021 18:35, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Wed, 05 May 2021 21:34:31 +0100, Rod Speed

"Commander Kinsey" wrote in message

But at that point you've already gone over the peak of the
power curve. I'd just make it drop the curve more quickly so
it can never go too fast.

Not possible to do that and still get the best performance.

You're getting **** all performance if you've gone over the power
curve anyway.

It's a primitive technique for an engine under-endowed with torque.
When you change up, there is an inevitable drop in power so the
idea of revving beyond peak power is to get further up the curve in
the next gear.

Perhaps there should be more gears then.

Or a wider power band - eg, electric motor (*) - and one gear.

Modern turbocharged engines tend to be mapped to develop a plateau over
4500-6500rpm with minimal discernable peak. Add a 7 or 8 speed automatic
and the old lurch and grind is gone.

(*) Comparisons of torque between EV and ICE are irrelevant. EV tend to
be geared to the equivalent of 2nd gear (9-10mph/1000rpm) so have twice
the torque to replace 1st. Using power = torque x rpm it can been that
the knee point is about 2500rpm.

On Wed, 12 May 2021 08:22:45 +0100, TMS320, the notorious, troll-feeding
senile asshole, blathered again:


Perhaps there should be more gears then.

Or a wider power band - eg, electric motor (*) - and one gear.

Modern turbocharged engines tend to be mapped to develop a plateau over
4500-6500rpm with minimal discernable peak. Add a 7 or 8 speed automatic
and the old lurch and grind is gone.

LOL Another miserable senile ASSHOLE who is thankful that some filthy troll
keeps baiting him!

On 12/05/21 8:25 pm, Peeler wrote:
On Wed, 12 May 2021 08:22:45 +0100, TMS320, the notorious, troll-feeding
senile asshole, blathered again:


Perhaps there should be more gears then.

Or a wider power band - eg, electric motor (*) - and one gear.

Modern turbocharged engines tend to be mapped to develop a plateau over
4500-6500rpm with minimal discernable peak. Add a 7 or 8 speed automatic
and the old lurch and grind is gone.

LOL Another miserable senile ASSHOLE who is thankful that some filthy troll
keeps baiting him!


Peeler was thought to be sexually undifferentiated before maturation,
possessing gonadal tissue for both ovaries and testis.

On 12/05/2021 08:22, TMS320 wrote:
On 10/05/2021 19:10, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Fri, 07 May 2021 11:54:14 +0100, TMS320 wrote:
On 06/05/2021 18:35, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Wed, 05 May 2021 21:34:31 +0100, Rod Speed

"Commander Kinsey" wrote in message

But at that point you've already gone over the peak of the
power curve. I'd just make it drop the curve more quickly so
it can never go too fast.

Not possible to do that and still get the best performance.

You're getting **** all performance if you've gone over the power
curve anyway.

It's a primitive technique for an engine under-endowed with torque.
When you change up, there is an inevitable drop in power so the
idea of revving beyond peak power is to get further up the curve in
the next gear.

Perhaps there should be more gears then.

Or a wider power band - eg, electric motor (*) - and one gear.

Modern turbocharged engines tend to be mapped to develop a plateau over
4500-6500rpm with minimal discernable peak. Add a 7 or 8 speed automatic
and the old lurch and grind is gone.

(*) Comparisons of torque between EV and ICE are irrelevant. EV tend to
be geared to the equivalent of 2nd gear (9-10mph/1000rpm) so have twice
the torque to replace 1st. Using power = torque x rpm it can been that
the knee point is about 2500rpm.

You can wind an electric motor to develop peak power and efficiency
wherever you want. In general. best power to weight is at highest
possible RPM before either mechanical issues or eddy current and
hysteresis losses start to predominate.




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Gospel of St. Mathew 15:14

On Wed, 12 May 2021 22:21:10 +1200, Peter Keller, the dumb gay masochistic
little cyclist, blabbered again:



LOL Another miserable senile ASSHOLE who is thankful that some filthy troll
keeps baiting him!


Peeler was thought to be sexually undifferentiated before maturation,
possessing gonadal tissue for both ovaries and testis.

You were an idiot even before you became a gay dumb cyclist! LOL

On Thu, 06 May 2021 18:49:15 +0100, Rod Speed wrote:



"Commander Kinsey" wrote in message
news
On Wed, 05 May 2021 21:34:31 +0100, Rod Speed
wrote:



"Commander Kinsey" wrote in message
news On Tue, 04 May 2021 03:01:29 +0100, rbowman wrote:

On 05/03/2021 10:13 AM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
Is it to warn you? Even my toilet cistern can slow down smoothly.

On cars? Yes. Cutting the engine abruptly when you hit the red line
wouldn't be good so they simulate ignition breakup to give you a hint.

But at that point you've already gone over the peak of the power curve.
I'd just make it drop the curve more quickly so it can never go too
fast.

Not possible to do that and still get the best performance.

You're getting **** all performance if you've gone over the power curve
anyway.

It doesn't drop off that dramatically.

Apparently this is a new thing, older cars did, fuel injection and turbos have reduced the sudden drop.

The driver would still feel the lack of power.

Makes more sense to have a rev limiter and much easier to do too.

And you ****ed up uk.d-i-y in the newsgroup list, you have uk.diy

No, the guy that made the group ****ed it up. How did you notice?

My news client whinged about it not being a valid newsgroup.

Your client? I've had a news server whinge. I guess it's a good thing, it stops typos.

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"Commander Kinsey" wrote in message
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On Thu, 06 May 2021 18:49:15 +0100, Rod Speed
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"Commander Kinsey" wrote in message
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On Wed, 05 May 2021 21:34:31 +0100, Rod Speed
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"Commander Kinsey" wrote in message
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On 05/03/2021 10:13 AM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
Is it to warn you? Even my toilet cistern can slow down smoothly.

On cars? Yes. Cutting the engine abruptly when you hit the red line
wouldn't be good so they simulate ignition breakup to give you a
hint.

But at that point you've already gone over the peak of the power
curve.
I'd just make it drop the curve more quickly so it can never go too
fast.

Not possible to do that and still get the best performance.

You're getting **** all performance if you've gone over the power curve
anyway.

It doesn't drop off that dramatically.

Apparently this is a new thing,

Depends on what you mean by new.

older cars did,

Not really. There was an obvious limit to how fast
you could go but that was more due to the much
greater wind resistance than to the power output
of the engine going over a pronounced peak.

fuel injection and turbos have reduced the sudden drop.

There never was a sudden drop.

The driver would still feel the lack of power.

Makes more sense to have a rev limiter and much easier to do too.

And you ****ed up uk.d-i-y in the newsgroup list, you have uk.diy

No, the guy that made the group ****ed it up. How did you notice?

My news client whinged about it not being a valid newsgroup.

Your client?

Yep.

I've had a news server whinge. I guess it's a good thing, it stops typos.

Yep, a very useful feature. I couldn't stuff up the way you did.
I can tell it to use the bad newsgroup anyway if there is more
than one in the newsgroup list, but not if it's the only one.

On 13/05/21 1:21 am, Peeler wrote:
On Wed, 12 May 2021 22:21:10 +1200, Peter Keller, the dumb gay masochistic
little cyclist, blabbered again:



LOL Another miserable senile ASSHOLE who is thankful that some filthy troll
keeps baiting him!


Peeler was thought to be sexually undifferentiated before maturation,
possessing gonadal tissue for both ovaries and testis.

You were an idiot even before you became a gay dumb cyclist! LOL


The Peeler embryo can develop for as long as 11 months before hatching,
which is shorter in comparison to other jawless vertebrates.[

On Thu, 13 May 2021 12:19:20 +1200, Peter Keller, the dumb gay masochistic
little cyclist, blabbered again:


You were an idiot even before you became a gay dumb cyclist! LOL


The Peeler embryo can develop for as long as 11 months before hatching,
which is shorter in comparison to other jawless vertebrates.[

Not only were you an idiot already before you became a gay dumb cyclist, you
will also remain a dumb gay idiot after you stopped cycling! LOL

On 13/05/21 9:45 am, Peeler wrote:
On Thu, 13 May 2021 07:34:06 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

FLUSH the two subnormal sociopathic cretins' endless absolutely idiotic
blather

Peeler has the ability to absorb dissolved organic matter across the
skin and gill, which may be an adaptation to a scavenging lifestyle,
allowing him to maximize sporadic opportunities for feeding.

On 13/05/21 7:52 pm, Peeler wrote:
On Thu, 13 May 2021 12:19:20 +1200, Peter Keller, the dumb gay masochistic
little cyclist, blabbered again:


You were an idiot even before you became a gay dumb cyclist! LOL


The Peeler embryo can develop for as long as 11 months before hatching,
which is shorter in comparison to other jawless vertebrates.[

Not only were you an idiot already before you became a gay dumb cyclist, you
will also remain a dumb gay idiot after you stopped cycling! LOL


From an evolutionary perspective, Peeler represents a transitory state
between the generalized nutrient absorption pathways of aquatic
invertebrates and the more specialized digestive systems of aquatic
vertebrates.