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You may find this amusing .. (or at least odd)
I took out a Boiler service contract with a UK company - YourRepair Running for a couple of months - get a call "I'm a Gas safe Engineer and been requested by YourRepair to come and do your annual service, I'm in the area tomorrow - is tomorrow 12-1300 OK" I agree On the day she calls to advise she will be with me in 30 mins, arrives (first time there has been a female gas engineer) shows her Gas Safe ID, explains how she will work under COVID-19 safe practises. Then for about an Hr carries out service, exactly as expected, clean, inspect, CO test, meter consumption test etc. Shows me all the details logged into Laptop ... all done and departs. Several days later I get an intermittent 'loud bang' on start up, not every time but 1 in 4 or 5 starts. Often called Explosive Ignition. I log a fault call with YourRepair (its done on web) explain this happened not long after service visit, but may be unrelated, and get a job reference. Then couple of Hrs later I get an email - they had not carried out service so job cancelled. I called them, and they deny sending an Engineer to carry out service - I try to be logical and advise I don't get random GasSafe Engineers coming to my house and carrying out a service for free. Did I have her name - no I did not record it, did I have paperwork... no as she entered it all on her Laptop. It takes a lot of calls before they finally agree to send someone ...... How bizarre is this ! I have reached out to GasSafe register to see if they can help identify her, as she did advise where she lived ..... so still waiting on reply on this. Maybe this is a reverse SCAM .... people come and do work on your boiler, and don't want paying for it. |
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On 02/11/2020 13:22, rick wrote:
You may find this amusing .. (or at least odd) I took out a Boiler service contract with a UK company - YourRepair Running for a couple of months - get a call "I'm a Gas safe Engineer and been requested by YourRepair to come and do your annual service, I'm in the area tomorrow -Â* is tomorrow 12-1300 OK" I agree On the day she calls to advise she will be with me in 30 mins, arrives (first time there has been a female gas engineer) shows her Gas Safe ID, explains how she will work under COVID-19 safe practises. Then for about an Hr carries out service, exactly as expected, clean, inspect, CO test, meter consumption testÂ* etc. Shows me all the details logged into Laptop ... all done and departs. Several days later I get an intermittent 'loud bang' on start up, not every time but 1 in 4 or 5 starts.Â*Â* Often called Explosive Ignition. I log a fault call with YourRepairÂ* (its done on web) explain this happened not long after service visit, but may be unrelated, and get a job reference. Then couple of Hrs later I get an email - they had not carried out service so job cancelled. I called them, and they deny sending an Engineer to carry out service - I try to be logical and advise I don't get random GasSafe Engineers coming to my house and carrying out a service for free. Did I have her name - no I did not record it, did I have paperwork... no as she entered it all on her Laptop. It takes a lot of calls before they finally agree to send someone ...... How bizarre is this ! I have reached out to GasSafe register to see if they can help identify her, as she did advise where she lived ..... so still waiting on reply on this. Maybe this is a reverse SCAM .... people come and do work on your boiler, and don't want paying for it. Failed assassination attempt. I want a refund |
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"rick" wrote in message ... You may find this amusing .. (or at least odd) I took out a Boiler service contract with a UK company - YourRepair Running for a couple of months - get a call "I'm a Gas safe Engineer and been requested by YourRepair to come and do your annual service, I'm in the area tomorrow - is tomorrow 12-1300 OK" I agree On the day she calls to advise she will be with me in 30 mins, arrives (first time there has been a female gas engineer) shows her Gas Safe ID, explains how she will work under COVID-19 safe practises. Then for about an Hr carries out service, exactly as expected, clean, inspect, CO test, meter consumption test etc. Shows me all the details logged into Laptop ... all done and departs. Several days later I get an intermittent 'loud bang' on start up, not every time but 1 in 4 or 5 starts. Often called Explosive Ignition. I log a fault call with YourRepair (its done on web) explain this happened not long after service visit, but may be unrelated, and get a job reference. Then couple of Hrs later I get an email - they had not carried out service so job cancelled. I called them, and they deny sending an Engineer to carry out service - I try to be logical and advise I don't get random GasSafe Engineers coming to my house and carrying out a service for free. Did I have her name - no I did not record it, did I have paperwork... no as she entered it all on her Laptop. It takes a lot of calls before they finally agree to send someone ...... How bizarre is this ! I have reached out to GasSafe register to see if they can help identify her, as she did advise where she lived ..... so still waiting on reply on this. Maybe this is a reverse SCAM .... people come and do work on your boiler, and don't want paying for it. She doesn't work for Your Repair don't forget,.She's presumably self employed She'd "been requested" by them to do the service. Maybe she mostly works for other contractors and this was her first job for Your Repair. And she didn't follow the correct procedure which differs from the others after completeing the job. This is probably a busy time of year for boliler repairs and servicing and she herself may not even have realised her mistake until much later. michael adams .... |
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On 02/11/2020 13:22, rick wrote:
You may find this amusing .. (or at least odd) I took out a Boiler service contract with a UK company - YourRepair Running for a couple of months - get a call "I'm a Gas safe Engineer and been requested by YourRepair to come and do your annual service, I'm in the area tomorrow -Â* is tomorrow 12-1300 OK" I agree On the day she calls to advise she will be with me in 30 mins, arrives (first time there has been a female gas engineer) shows her Gas Safe ID, explains how she will work under COVID-19 safe practises. Then for about an Hr carries out service, exactly as expected, clean, inspect, CO test, meter consumption testÂ* etc. Shows me all the details logged into Laptop ... all done and departs. Several days later I get an intermittent 'loud bang' on start up, not every time but 1 in 4 or 5 starts.Â*Â* Often called Explosive Ignition. I log a fault call with YourRepairÂ* (its done on web) explain this happened not long after service visit, but may be unrelated, and get a job reference. Then couple of Hrs later I get an email - they had not carried out service so job cancelled. I called them, and they deny sending an Engineer to carry out service - I try to be logical and advise I don't get random GasSafe Engineers coming to my house and carrying out a service for free. Did I have her name - no I did not record it, did I have paperwork... no as she entered it all on her Laptop. It takes a lot of calls before they finally agree to send someone ...... How bizarre is this ! I have reached out to GasSafe register to see if they can help identify her, as she did advise where she lived ..... so still waiting on reply on this. Maybe this is a reverse SCAM .... people come and do work on your boiler, and don't want paying for it. Like negative interest rates you mean?, where people could be paid to borrow money :-) |
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On 02/11/2020 13:22, rick wrote:
Maybe this is a reverse SCAM .... people come and do work on your boiler, and don't want paying for it. You get a cold call from some anonymous person "claiming" to be from a service organisation. You then let someone into your home and later find out that the service organisation have no record of service being performed. You cannot even guess what the scam is? -- mailto : news {at} admac {dot} myzen {dot} co {dot} uk |
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rick wrote: Maybe this is a reverse SCAM .... people come and do work on your boiler, and don't want paying for it. Given your boiler has now broken, that could be the scam. -- *Some days you're the dog, some days the hydrant. Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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"alan_m" wrote in message ... On 02/11/2020 13:22, rick wrote: Maybe this is a reverse SCAM .... people come and do work on your boiler, and don't want paying for it. You get a cold call from some anonymous person "claiming" to be from a service organisation. Who's cold calling ? The OP first contacted "YourRepair" via their website which for all I know, depite all the impressive looking photos maybe, could be being run from somebody's spare bedroom. "YourRepair" contacted one of the Gas Safe engineers they promised they could get work for, maybe at 25% commission, The gas engineer went to the OP's house and announced they'd been requested by "YourRepair" to come and do his annual service, What are you suggesting ? That the Gas Safe engineer is tapping "YourRepair"'s phone ? What's interesting though, is that "YourRepair" don't seem to have remebered that the OP had contacted them in the first place. They knew or at least thought they knew, that no service had been carried out. But not that. michael adams .... |
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rick wrote:
On the day she calls to advise she will be with me in 30 mins No call history on phone? |
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On 02/11/2020 13:22, rick wrote:
You may find this amusing .. (or at least odd) I took out a Boiler service contract with a UK company - YourRepair Running for a couple of months - get a call "I'm a Gas safe Engineer and been requested by YourRepair to come and do your annual service, I'm in the area tomorrow -Â* is tomorrow 12-1300 OK" I agree On the day she calls to advise she will be with me in 30 mins, arrives (first time there has been a female gas engineer) shows her Gas Safe ID, explains how she will work under COVID-19 safe practises. Then for about an Hr carries out service, exactly as expected, clean, inspect, CO test, meter consumption testÂ* etc. Shows me all the details logged into Laptop ... all done and departs. Several days later I get an intermittent 'loud bang' on start up, not every time but 1 in 4 or 5 starts.Â*Â* Often called Explosive Ignition. I log a fault call with YourRepairÂ* (its done on web) explain this happened not long after service visit, but may be unrelated, and get a job reference. Then couple of Hrs later I get an email - they had not carried out service so job cancelled. I called them, and they deny sending an Engineer to carry out service - I try to be logical and advise I don't get random GasSafe Engineers coming to my house and carrying out a service for free. Did I have her name - no I did not record it, did I have paperwork... no as she entered it all on her Laptop. It takes a lot of calls before they finally agree to send someone ...... How bizarre is this ! I have reached out to GasSafe register to see if they can help identify her, as she did advise where she lived ..... so still waiting on reply on this. Maybe this is a reverse SCAM .... people come and do work on your boiler, and don't want paying for it. just had two airbags replaced and the did a full check over of everything on the car with a video... washed and valeted the car and reset the clock to GMT and left a new car smell air freshener.....all free and not asked for...it is catching |
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On 02/11/2020 13:22, rick wrote:
You may find this amusing .. (or at least odd) I took out a Boiler service contract with a UK company - YourRepair Running for a couple of months - get a call "I'm a Gas safe Engineer and been requested by YourRepair to come and do your annual service, I'm in the area tomorrow -Â* is tomorrow 12-1300 OK" I agree On the day she calls So you let a woman service your gas boiler? -- Adam |
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On 02/11/2020 18:26, ARW wrote:
On 02/11/2020 13:22, rick wrote: You may find this amusing .. (or at least odd) I took out a Boiler service contract with a UK company - YourRepair Running for a couple of months - get a call "I'm a Gas safe Engineer and been requested by YourRepair to come and do your annual service, I'm in the area tomorrow -Â* is tomorrow 12-1300 OK" I agree On the day she calls So you let a woman service your gas boiler? It's not that unusual these days. I recently had a new boiler fitted, the team arrived on the day, one male engineer and one female. The female did most of the work! The boiler works fine.(so far) |
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It happens that ARW formulated :
So you let a woman service your gas boiler? I think some women can be just as practical and capable as men, its just their upbringing that makes the difference and they way they are not expected to do practical work that holds them back. I have met many useless males, when it comes to anything practical. |
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On 02/11/2020 16:32, michael adams wrote:
"alan_m" wrote in message ... On 02/11/2020 13:22, rick wrote: Maybe this is a reverse SCAM .... people come and do work on your boiler, and don't want paying for it. You get a cold call from some anonymous person "claiming" to be from a service organisation. Who's cold calling ? The OP first contacted "YourRepair" via their website which for all I know, depite all the impressive looking photos maybe, could be being run from somebody's spare bedroom. "YourRepair" contacted one of the Gas Safe engineers they promised they could get work for, maybe at 25% commission, The gas engineer went to the OP's house and announced they'd been requested by "YourRepair" to come and do his annual service, What are you suggesting ? That the Gas Safe engineer is tapping "YourRepair"'s phone ? What's interesting though, is that "YourRepair" don't seem to have remebered that the OP had contacted them in the first place. They knew or at least thought they knew, that no service had been carried out. But not that. It's very strange. The only way to contact the company seems to be through their 0330 number or by *opening an account" (they have a registered company address too, and on the Trustpilot site there is an email address given in one of the YourRepair replies to a complaint). Now if the OP had a contract, i /assume/ that was set up via an account. So how could YourRepair not know who he was? Interesting also that on their "Faqs" page it states: "Are YourRepair engineers vetted and approved? Absolutely, our engineers are vetted to ensure the highest possible standards, we: - Audit and inspect jobs upon completion..." They don't seem to have audited that job "upon completion". Or is this the curse of an "electronic" society where no physical records exist, and if something goes wrong, it's lost in cyberspace? -- Jeff |
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Harry Bloomfield; "Esq." wrote in message ... It happens that ARW formulated : So you let a woman service your gas boiler? I think some women can be just as practical and capable as men, its just their upbringing that makes the difference and they way they are not expected to do practical work that holds them back. I have met many useless males, when it comes to anything practical. The Queen serviced Army Lorries during the war, reputedly. No doubt she'd no longer be up to the heavy work, but she could probably still drive the van. michael adams All stand https://mashable.com/2015/04/22/quee...y/?europe=true .... |
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michael adams used his keyboard to write :
The Queen serviced Army Lorries during the war, reputedly. I have seen that said, but I would guess that would be mostly a story for the press and the public at the time. |
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Jeff Layman presented the following explanation :
They don't seem to have audited that job "upon completion". Or is this the curse of an "electronic" society where no physical records exist, and if something goes wrong, it's lost in cyberspace? So very easy and low cost, to simply set up a website offering such services, but not have any engineers on the books. Not difficult to just seek out engineers within range of an address, to call them, have them agree they pay you a percentage for the lead you provide. |
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On Monday, 2 November 2020 19:41:30 UTC, Jeff Layman wrote:
It's very strange. The only way to contact the company seems to be through their 0330 number or by *opening an account" (they have a What's wrong with an 0330 number? Its just an ordinary standard rate number like any other but not associated with a particular geographic area. John |
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"Harry Bloomfield"; "Esq." wrote in message ... michael adams used his keyboard to write : The Queen serviced Army Lorries during the war, reputedly. I have seen that said, but I would guess that would be mostly a story for the press and the public at the time. It's a true story. Plenty of women did stuff like that. |
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Harry Bloomfield; "Esq." wrote in message ... michael adams used his keyboard to write : The Queen serviced Army Lorries during the war, reputedly. I have seen that said, but I would guess that would be mostly a story for the press and the public at the time. There were plenty of pictures of her in action further down the page on the link I posted. With Margaret and the Queen Mum ( A Viz favourite) looking on. Of the two Elizabeth was always the more serious minded. I had an uncle who served in the Coldstream Guards at Windsor and that was at least what he said. That Margaret would joke with the guardsmen but never Elizabeth. Who took her sense of duty directly from her father, George VI. https://mashable.com/2015/04/22/quee...y/?europe=true michael adams .... .. |
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wrote in message ... On Monday, 2 November 2020 19:41:30 UTC, Jeff Layman wrote: It's very strange. The only way to contact the company seems to be through their 0330 number or by *opening an account" (they have a What's wrong with an 0330 number? Its just an ordinary standard rate number like any other but not associated with a particular geographic area. But in the absence of any other information, it serves to further conceal their location. While their "Registered Office" could be an accommodation address intended solely for the receipt and forwarding of mail. Which could be anywhere - should anyone be bothered to look. An impressive office block in the centre of town, or above a newsagents in a village. Harry Bloomfield supplied the answer. Formerly I suggested that they were working in a back bedroom and had already compiled their list of engineers. But of course, as Harry pointed out, there's no need for this at all. All they need do is feed the addresses of potential customers into the Gas Safe Register and there you go. Apparently I'm surrounded by them; as is anyone living in a town most likely. And there are plenty of other sites for other trades Mybuilder, Checkatrade etc. etc. All of whom already come highly recommended. Naturally. So seemingly all you need is a good website, merchant accreditation from CC card providers and a fast broadband connection along with some fake reviews maybe. And located almost anywhere - the UK is your oyster. However the big problem with this as with almost all such surefire get rich quick schemes is actually attracting customers. Letting them know you exist. Previously you'd have had to advertise which potentially could cost shedloads to be effective now in additions/instead you need to achieve a high ranking on Google and other search engines; while competing with maybe hundreds of others trying to achieve exactly the same objective. michael adams .... |
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On Monday, 2 November 2020 19:20:49 UTC, wrote:
I have met many useless males, when it comes to anything practical. I remember offering to draw a diagram of a changeover switch for a doorbell. For a time-served industrial electrician. And don't get me started on academics ... although I do know a couple of male PhDs who can cook and put up shelves. Still, for the moment, we've got all the tadpoles so we don't need to actually be good at anything. Owain |
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On Monday, 2 November 2020 20:07:37 UTC, michael adams wrote:
The Queen serviced Army Lorries during the war, reputedly. No doubt she'd no longer be up to the heavy work, but she could probably still drive the van. She terrified the King of Saudi Arabia in 2003 when she drove him around one of her estates. Apparenbtly she likes driving rather fast and as women weren't allowed to drive in Saudi at the time she probably din't slow down especially for him. Owain |
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michael adams wrote:
in the absence of any other information, it serves to further conceal their location. While their "Registered Office" could be an accommodation address intended solely for the receipt and forwarding of mail. It wouldn't be unusual if it was the address of their accountants, there just happens to be such a firm "RL Accountancy" on the business park YourCare uses as their registered address ... |
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On 03/11/2020 09:06, michael adams wrote:
wrote in message ... On Monday, 2 November 2020 19:41:30 UTC, Jeff Layman wrote: It's very strange. The only way to contact the company seems to be through their 0330 number or by *opening an account" (they have a What's wrong with an 0330 number? Its just an ordinary standard rate number like any other but not associated with a particular geographic area. But in the absence of any other information, it serves to further conceal their location. But it's quite easy to have a phone number with an area code in a totally different part of the country from where you actually are. |
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"Mike Clarke" wrote in message ... On 03/11/2020 09:06, michael adams wrote: wrote in message ... On Monday, 2 November 2020 19:41:30 UTC, Jeff Layman wrote: It's very strange. The only way to contact the company seems to be through their 0330 number or by *opening an account" (they have a What's wrong with an 0330 number? Its just an ordinary standard rate number like any other but not associated with a particular geographic area. But in the absence of any other information, it serves to further conceal their location. But it's quite easy to have a phone number with an area code in a totally different part of the country from where you actually are. But why would you want an area code anywhere ? If you choose an area code in the SE then this will put off people in the SW, Midlands, NW, NE Scotland Wales etc Whatever area you choose, will put off people living elsewhere Whereas by using 0330 you're not putting anyone off but marketing yourself to the whole of the UK. michaael adams ..... |
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michael adams wrote: The Queen serviced Army Lorries during the war, reputedly. No doubt she'd no longer be up to the heavy work, but she could probably still drive the van. I've (as a kid) certainly seen her driving a Land Rover at Balmoral. ISTR she rather liked the early versions long after they were updated. -- *Artificial Intelligence is no match for Natural Stupidity * Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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On 03/11/2020 09:06, michael adams wrote:
wrote in message ... On Monday, 2 November 2020 19:41:30 UTC, Jeff Layman wrote: It's very strange. The only way to contact the company seems to be through their 0330 number or by *opening an account" (they have a What's wrong with an 0330 number? Its just an ordinary standard rate number like any other but not associated with a particular geographic area. But in the absence of any other information, it serves to further conceal their location. While their "Registered Office" could be an accommodation address intended solely for the receipt and forwarding of mail. Which could be anywhere - should anyone be bothered to look. An impressive office block in the centre of town, or above a newsagents in a village. Its most likely the address of their accountants. That way companies house communications go directly to them. Harry Bloomfield supplied the answer. Formerly I suggested that they were working in a back bedroom and had already compiled their list of engineers. But of course, as Harry pointed out, there's no need for this at all. All they need do is feed the addresses of potential customers into the Gas Safe Register and there you go. Apparently I'm surrounded by them; as is anyone living in a town most likely. And there are plenty of other sites for other trades Mybuilder, Checkatrade etc. etc. All of whom already come highly recommended. Naturally. So seemingly all you need is a good website, merchant accreditation from CC card providers and a fast broadband connection along with some fake reviews maybe. And located almost anywhere - the UK is your oyster. However the big problem with this as with almost all such surefire get rich quick schemes is actually attracting customers. Letting them know you exist. Previously you'd have had to advertise which potentially could cost shedloads to be effective now in additions/instead you need to achieve a high ranking on Google and other search engines; while competing with maybe hundreds of others trying to achieve exactly the same objective. While uniformed conjecture can be fun, it does tend to draw one to less than accurate conclusions. Not wishing to spoil anyone's cynicism party, but it's worth noting its not difficult to go look up the actual data instead. A whois record check on the domain will find it was registered in 2013. If you look at the bottom of their web page you will find the registered company details, so can then go look them up on the companies house web site. At which point you will find they have made up accounts and a 5 year trading history, with a move to profit in about 2017, and consistent growth over the last couple of trading years. The average number of employees for the 2017-18 year was 9, and last year that had risen to 16. So it seems like its going to be getting rather cosy in that back bedroom. -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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Chris Hogg wrote: On Tue, 3 Nov 2020 14:14:59 +1100, "Fred" wrote: "Harry Bloomfield"; "Esq." wrote in message ... michael adams used his keyboard to write : The Queen serviced Army Lorries during the war, reputedly. I have seen that said, but I would guess that would be mostly a story for the press and the public at the time. It's a true story. Plenty of women did stuff like that. "At the age of 19, Princess Elizabeth joined the Auxiliary Territorial Service (ATS). After joining, she trained as a driver and mechanic with the rank of Second Subaltern. Five months later she was promoted to Junior Commander, which was the equivalent of Captain." from https://tinyurl.com/yxvn8ke8 So 5 months to learn how to and service trucks? Before moving into management? -- *I finally got my head together, now my body is falling apart. Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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Dave Plowman (News) wrote: In article , michael adams wrote: The Queen serviced Army Lorries during the war, reputedly. No doubt she'd no longer be up to the heavy work, but she could probably still drive the van. I've (as a kid) certainly seen her driving a Land Rover at Balmoral. ISTR she rather liked the early versions long after they were updated. and I've passed her on the A939, the LR coming towards me pulled into a passing place, -- from KT24 in Surrey, England "I'd rather die of exhaustion than die of boredom" Thomas Carlyle |
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On Monday, 2 November 2020 20:07:37 UTC, michael adams wrote:
Harry Bloomfield; "Esq." wrote in message ... It happens that ARW formulated : So you let a woman service your gas boiler? I think some women can be just as practical and capable as men, its just their upbringing that makes the difference and they way they are not expected to do practical work that holds them back. I have met many useless males, when it comes to anything practical. The Queen serviced Army Lorries during the war, reputedly. No doubt she'd no longer be up to the heavy work, but she could probably still drive the van. michael adams All stand https://mashable.com/2015/04/22/quee...y/?europe=true ... Might be many of the same photos but a bit more text he https://www.insider.com/photos-queen...gham-palace-15 |
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On Tue, 03 Nov 2020 10:45:12 +0000, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article , michael adams wrote: The Queen serviced Army Lorries during the war, reputedly. No doubt she'd no longer be up to the heavy work, but she could probably still drive the van. I've (as a kid) certainly seen her driving a Land Rover at Balmoral. ISTR she rather liked the early versions long after they were updated. With no synchro on first and second! -- My posts are my copyright and if @diy_forums or Home Owners' Hub wish to copy them they can pay me £1 a message. Use the BIG mirror service in the UK: http://www.mirrorservice.org *lightning surge protection* - a w_tom conductor |
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On 02/11/2020 13:56, michael adams wrote:
She doesn't work for Your Repair don't forget,.She's presumably self employed She'd "been requested" by them to do the service. Maybe she mostly works for other contractors and this was her first job for Your Repair. And she didn't follow the correct procedure which differs from the others after completeing the job. This is probably a busy time of year for boliler repairs and servicing and she herself may not even have realised her mistake until much later. michael adams possibly |
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On 02/11/2020 15:20, Andrew wrote:
Maybe this is a reverse SCAM .... people come and do work on your boiler, and don't want paying for it. Like negative interest rates you mean?, where people could be paid to borrow money :-) I did think it a bit like the Monty Python Sketch on the Doug & Dinsdale the Piranha Brothers, where they run a protection scheme threatening not to beat people up if they paid them money. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9k6__UFF18 |
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On 02/11/2020 15:37, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article , rick wrote: Maybe this is a reverse SCAM .... people come and do work on your boiler, and don't want paying for it. Given your boiler has now broken, that could be the scam. They have now sent an engineer, but adamant they did not send the one who did the service. |
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On 02/11/2020 16:32, michael adams wrote:
"alan_m" wrote in message ... On 02/11/2020 13:22, rick wrote: Maybe this is a reverse SCAM .... people come and do work on your boiler, and don't want paying for it. You get a cold call from some anonymous person "claiming" to be from a service organisation. Who's cold calling ? The OP first contacted "YourRepair" via their website which for all I know, depite all the impressive looking photos maybe, could be being run from somebody's spare bedroom. "YourRepair" contacted one of the Gas Safe engineers they promised they could get work for, maybe at 25% commission, The gas engineer went to the OP's house and announced they'd been requested by "YourRepair" to come and do his annual service, What are you suggesting ? That the Gas Safe engineer is tapping "YourRepair"'s phone ? What's interesting though, is that "YourRepair" don't seem to have remebered that the OP had contacted them in the first place. They knew or at least thought they knew, that no service had been carried out. But not that. I have a valid contract with "Your Repair" so when I got a call form a person who advises they are a GasSafe Engineer wanting to come and carry out service on behalf of "Your Repair" I had no alarm bills ring. When she turned up and showed her GasSafe photo ID card, explained how she would work complying with Covid-19 and then carried out service as per normal ..... I did not think there were any issues. Especially when she entered all details in her laptop, and even went through the entries with me. "Your Repair" still insist they did not send her, so maybe random Engineers carrying out free service calls is the new thing. I have tried to track her down with GasSafe register, but they advise they cannot tell me any 'female' engineer. |
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On 02/11/2020 18:26, ARW wrote:
On 02/11/2020 13:22, rick wrote: You may find this amusing .. (or at least odd) I took out a Boiler service contract with a UK company - YourRepair Running for a couple of months - get a call "I'm a Gas safe Engineer and been requested by YourRepair to come and do your annual service, I'm in the area tomorrow -Â* is tomorrow 12-1300 OK" I agree On the day she calls So you let a woman service your gas boiler? No issue with that, 2 weeks ago BT sent a female broadband engineer - first time that had happened and she proved very knowledgeable and proficient. |
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On 02/11/2020 20:16, Harry Bloomfield wrote:
michael adams used his keyboard to write : The Queen serviced Army Lorries during the war, reputedly. I have seen that said, but I would guess that would be mostly a story for the press and the public at the time. Prince Andrew has reportedly done a fair bit of servicing |
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On 03/11/2020 09:06, michael adams wrote:
wrote in message ... On Monday, 2 November 2020 19:41:30 UTC, Jeff Layman wrote: It's very strange. The only way to contact the company seems to be through their 0330 number or by *opening an account" (they have a What's wrong with an 0330 number? Its just an ordinary standard rate number like any other but not associated with a particular geographic area. But in the absence of any other information, it serves to further conceal their location. While their "Registered Office" could be an accommodation address intended solely for the receipt and forwarding of mail. Which could be anywhere - should anyone be bothered to look. An impressive office block in the centre of town, or above a newsagents in a village. Harry Bloomfield supplied the answer. Formerly I suggested that they were working in a back bedroom and had already compiled their list of engineers. But of course, as Harry pointed out, there's no need for this at all. All they need do is feed the addresses of potential customers into the Gas Safe Register and there you go. Apparently I'm surrounded by them; as is anyone living in a town most likely. And there are plenty of other sites for other trades Mybuilder, Checkatrade etc. etc. All of whom already come highly recommended. Naturally. So seemingly all you need is a good website, merchant accreditation from CC card providers and a fast broadband connection along with some fake reviews maybe. And located almost anywhere - the UK is your oyster. However the big problem with this as with almost all such surefire get rich quick schemes is actually attracting customers. Letting them know you exist. Previously you'd have had to advertise which potentially could cost shedloads to be effective now in additions/instead you need to achieve a high ranking on Google and other search engines; while competing with maybe hundreds of others trying to achieve exactly the same objective. michael adams Since British Gas, SSE/Swalec & Corgi hiked their prices so high, there are several companies offering this 'repair contract' service. They don't own engineers, no apprentices, no spares, no fleet of vans, no insurance, pension or holidays ..... they can offer cover using sub-concentrator resource much cheaper YourRepair, 24/7 Home Rescue, Hometree etc. |
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On 03/11/2020 10:49, John Rumm wrote:
If you look at the bottom of their web page you will find the registered company details, so can then go look them up on the companies house web site. At which point you will find they have made up accounts and a 5 year trading history, with a move to profit in about 2017, and consistent growth over the last couple of trading years. The average number of employees for the 2017-18 year was 9, and last year that had risen to 16. So it seems like its going to be getting rather cosy in that back bedroom. I did look at comparison sites and review sites before going to them, it was an informed decision (on my part anyway) |
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