On 07/03/2020 09:34, Rod Speed wrote:


"Jim Stewart" wrote in message
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On 07/03/2020 08:12, Cynic wrote:
Admittedly from Facebook source so take it or leave it for accuracy
but worth thinking about.
Â* "I'm a doctor and an Infectious Diseases Specialist. I've been at
this for more than 20 years seeing sick patients on a daily basis. I
have worked in inner city hospitals and in the poorest slums of
Africa. HIV-AIDS, Hepatitis,TB, SARS, Measles, Shingles, Whooping
cough, Diphtheria...there is little I haven't been exposed to in my
profession. And with notable exception of SARS, very little has left
me feeling vulnerable, overwhelmed or downright scared.

I am not scared of Covid-19. I am concerned about the implications of
a novel infectious agent that has spread the world over and continues
to find new footholds in different soil.Â* I am rightly concerned for
the welfare of those who are elderly, in frail health or
disenfranchised who stand to suffer mostly, and disproportionately,
at the hands of this new scourge. But I am not scared of Covid-19.

What I am scared about is the loss of reason and wave of fear that
has induced the masses of society into a spellbinding spiral of
panic, stockpiling obscene quantities of anything that could fill a
bomb shelter adequately in a post-apocalyptic world. I am scared of
the N95 masks that are stolen from hospitals and urgent care clinics
where they are actually needed for front line healthcare providers
and instead are being donned in airports, malls, and coffee lounges,
perpetuating even more fear and suspicion of others. I am scared that
our hospitals will be overwhelmed with anyone who thinks they "
probably don't have it but may as well get checked out no matter what
because you just never know..." and those with heart failure,
emphysema, pneumonia andÂ* strokes will pay the price for overfilled
ER waiting rooms with only so many doctors and nurses to assess.

I am scared that travel restrictions will become so far reaching that
weddings will be canceled, graduations missed and family reunions
will not materialize. And well, even that big party called the
Olympic Games...that could be kyboshed too. Can you even
imagine?

I'm scared those same epidemic fears will limit trade, harm
partnerships in multiple sectors, business and otherwise and
ultimately culminate in a global recession.

But mostly, I'm scared about what message we are telling our kids
when faced with a threat. Instead of reason, rationality,
openmindedness and altruism, we are telling them to panic, be
fearful, suspicious, reactionary and self-interested.

Covid-19 is nowhere near over. It will be coming to a city, a
hospital, a friend, even a family member near you at some point.
Expect it.Â* Stop waiting to be surprised further. The fact is the
virus itself will not likely do much harm when it arrives. But our
own behaviors and "fight for yourself above all else" attitude could
prove disastrous.

I implore you all. Temper fear with reason, panic with patience and
uncertainty with education. We have an opportunity to learn a great
deal about health hygiene and limiting the spread of innumerable
transmissible diseases in our society. Let's meet this challenge
together in the best spirit of compassion for others, patience, and
above all, an unfailing effort to seek truth, facts and knowledge as
opposed to conjecture, speculation and catastrophizing.

Facts not fear. Clean hands. Open hearts.
Our children will thank us for it.

#washurhands #geturflushot #respect #patiencenotpanic

don't see the point of stockpiling food...

More fool you...

when you get it you won't be hungry ...

But when you are self isolating without having got it, you may well be.
why would I do that ? ...

Jim Stewart wrote:
On 06/03/2020 19:08, Rod Speed wrote:


"Jim Stewart" wrote in message
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On 06/03/2020 16:34, Rod Speed wrote:


"nightjar" wrote in message
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On 06/03/2020 10:31, Jim Stewart wrote:
Home bargains in Hawick has hand sanitiser two bottles per
customer.......

I have several bottles of hand sanitizer, a large box of medical
surface wipes, a similar box of hand disinfecting wipes, a good
supply of P3 face masks, boxes of nitrile gloves in two sizes and
wraparound protective glasses. All bought online within the past
week or so. Looking at the same sites now, it seems I got in just
ahead of the rush.

Yebbut you have always been that anal :-(

You're the only one I have ever heard of that
is silly enough wrap the tyres of a car that
wont be used for a while in brown paper to
keep the tyres from degrading too quickly.

and he was quite right too ...

Sure, but few are silly enough to bother.
depends how cheap you are and how long you keep your tyres ....and why
do yanks spell tyres as tires ?...


Why do you not spell fires as fyres?

--
M0TEY // STC
www.twitter.com/ukradioamateur

"Jim Stewart" wrote in message
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On 06/03/2020 19:08, Rod Speed wrote:


"Jim Stewart" wrote in message
...
On 06/03/2020 16:34, Rod Speed wrote:


"nightjar" wrote in message
...
On 06/03/2020 10:31, Jim Stewart wrote:
Home bargains in Hawick has hand sanitiser two bottles per
customer.......

I have several bottles of hand sanitizer, a large box of medical
surface wipes, a similar box of hand disinfecting wipes, a good supply
of P3 face masks, boxes of nitrile gloves in two sizes and wraparound
protective glasses. All bought online within the past week or so.
Looking at the same sites now, it seems I got in just ahead of the
rush.

Yebbut you have always been that anal :-(

You're the only one I have ever heard of that
is silly enough wrap the tyres of a car that
wont be used for a while in brown paper to
keep the tyres from degrading too quickly.

and he was quite right too ...

Sure, but few are silly enough to bother.

depends how cheap you are

Nope, given the cost of the brown paper.

and how long you keep your tyres ....

This was just for a holiday etc.

and why do yanks spell tyres as tires ?...

Because they are yanks, stupid,

On 07/03/2020 09:39, Rod Speed wrote:


"Jim Stewart" wrote in message
...
On 06/03/2020 19:08, Rod Speed wrote:


"Jim Stewart" wrote in message
...
On 06/03/2020 16:34, Rod Speed wrote:


"nightjar" wrote in message
...
On 06/03/2020 10:31, Jim Stewart wrote:
Home bargains in Hawick has hand sanitiser two bottles per
customer.......

I have several bottles of hand sanitizer, a large box of medical
surface wipes, a similar box of hand disinfecting wipes, a good
supply of P3 face masks, boxes of nitrile gloves in two sizes and
wraparound protective glasses. All bought online within the past
week or so. Looking at the same sites now, it seems I got in just
ahead of the rush.

Yebbut you have always been that anal :-(

You're the only one I have ever heard of that
is silly enough wrap the tyres of a car that
wont be used for a while in brown paper to
keep the tyres from degrading too quickly.

and he was quite right too ...

Sure, but few are silly enough to bother.

depends how cheap you are

Nope, given the cost of the brown paper.

and how long you keep your tyres ....

This was just for a holiday etc.

and why do yanks spell tyresÂ* asÂ* tires ?...

Because they are yanks, stupid,
I like the yank way I mean what is a bonnet or a boot ?

On 06/03/2020 18:20, Rod Speed wrote:


"Pancho" wrote in message
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On 06/03/2020 10:31, Jim Stewart wrote:
Home bargains in Hawick has hand sanitiser two bottles per
customer.......

At the price some companies are charging you might want to use this
instead:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Glenfarclas-Highland-Single-Scotch-Whisky/dp/B004CEV2HU


Not high enough ethanol content.


60% by volume.

Or a strong vodka


Vodka go upto 95%


Ditto.

if you can't be trusted to use the scotch to wash your hands.

You should use metho, thats fine for hand washing,

Not ideal if you do it a lot tho, gives you very dry hands,

I have some isopropyl alcohol, used for washing electronics, would that
be better than meths?

On Sat, 7 Mar 2020 20:39:42 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:


Nope

LOL Did you just get another tiny senile online orgasm again, senile Rodent?

--
Kerr-Mudd,John addressing senile Rot:
"Auto-contradictor Rod is back! (in the KF)"
MID:

On Sat, 7 Mar 2020 20:36:44 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

We'll see...

We'll see YOU trolling on these groups like there was no tomorrow, you
clinically insane 86-year-old trolling senile pest!

--
The Natural Philosopher about senile Rodent:
"Rod speed is not a Brexiteer. He is an Australian troll and arsehole."
Message-ID:

On Sat, 7 Mar 2020 20:16:25 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:


Nope.

LOL

--
Kerr-Mudd,John addressing senile Rot:
"Auto-contradictor Rod is back! (in the KF)"
MID:

On Sat, 7 Mar 2020 20:34:55 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:


But when you are self isolating without having got it, you may well be.

But you ALREADY are self-isolated, you lonely senile pest ...of course,
involuntarily, as everyone in RL avoids you like the plague!

--
Keema Nam addressing nym-shifting senile Rodent:
"You are now exposed as a liar, as well as an ignorant troll."
"MID: .com"

On 07/03/2020 09:56, Peeler wrote:
On Sat, 7 Mar 2020 20:39:42 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:


Nope

LOL Did you just get another tiny senile online orgasm again, senile Rodent?

bona

On Sat, 7 Mar 2020 20:22:30 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:



I know why, panicers [sic] are stupid.

You callin someone ELSE "stupid", you clinically insane senile sociopath?
YOUUU??? Of all people? LOL

--
Marland answering senile Rodent's statement, "I don't leak":
"That¢s because so much **** and ****e emanates from your gob that there is
nothing left to exit normally, your arsehole has clammed shut through disuse
and the end of prick is only clear because you are such a ******."
Message-ID:

"Rod Speed" wrote in message
...


"alan_m" wrote in message
...
On 06/03/2020 21:30, michael adams wrote:

Its probably all ******** but was probably recommended on a TV programme or
something.

When Mark Carney morphed from being a climate change expert to a medical expert
overnight and said that we are all going to be infected by Covid 19 the UK population
took notice and started buying supplies for their 2 to 4 weeks of self isolation.

Doesn't explain why the supermarket shelves
have been stripped of dunny paper in Oz tho.

Under the right circumstances and if things really go belly up, toilet paper could
well be set to become the world's dominant currency. That and hand cream.
Rolls of bog paper could be selling on eBay for 100's of pounds,

Think about it.


michael adams

....

On 07/03/2020 10:06, michael adams wrote:
"Rod Speed" wrote in message
...


"alan_m" wrote in message
...
On 06/03/2020 21:30, michael adams wrote:

Its probably all ******** but was probably recommended on a TV programme or
something.

When Mark Carney morphed from being a climate change expert to a medical expert
overnight and said that we are all going to be infected by Covid 19 the UK population
took notice and started buying supplies for their 2 to 4 weeks of self isolation.

Doesn't explain why the supermarket shelves
have been stripped of dunny paper in Oz tho.

Under the right circumstances and if things really go belly up, toilet paper could
well be set to become the world's dominant currency. That and hand cream.
Rolls of bog paper could be selling on eBay for 100's of pounds,

Think about it.


michael adams

...


defacto currency...Mmmmmmm

On 07/03/2020 09:54, Pancho wrote:

Vodka go upto 95%


No. 95 proof possibly - about 46%

although you can but almost pure alcohol industrially or commercially
its blended down sub 50% for human consumption


--
Of what good are dead warriors? €¦ Warriors are those who desire battle
more than peace. Those who seek battle despite peace. Those who thump
their spears on the ground and talk of honor. Those who leap high the
battle dance and dream of glory €¦ The good of dead warriors, Mother, is
that they are dead.
Sheri S Tepper: The Awakeners.

On 07/03/2020 10:06, michael adams wrote:
"Rod Speed" wrote in message
...


"alan_m" wrote in message
...
On 06/03/2020 21:30, michael adams wrote:

Its probably all ******** but was probably recommended on a TV programme or
something.

When Mark Carney morphed from being a climate change expert to a medical expert
overnight and said that we are all going to be infected by Covid 19 the UK population
took notice and started buying supplies for their 2 to 4 weeks of self isolation.

Doesn't explain why the supermarket shelves
have been stripped of dunny paper in Oz tho.

Under the right circumstances and if things really go belly up, toilet paper could
well be set to become the world's dominant currency. That and hand cream.
Rolls of bog paper could be selling on eBay for 100's of pounds,

Think about it.

Well i'll continue to wash my arse in the shower and launder my hand
towels then.

Don't *need* bogroll at all.



michael adams

...




--
Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as
foolish, and by the rulers as useful.

(Seneca the Younger, 65 AD)

In message , Jim Stewart
writes
On 07/03/2020 10:06, michael adams wrote:
"Rod Speed" wrote in message
...


"alan_m" wrote in message
...
On 06/03/2020 21:30, michael adams wrote:

Its probably all ******** but was probably recommended on a TV
programme or
something.

When Mark Carney morphed from being a climate change expert to a
medical expert
overnight and said that we are all going to be infected by Covid 19
the UK population
took notice and started buying supplies for their 2 to 4 weeks of
self isolation.

Doesn't explain why the supermarket shelves
have been stripped of dunny paper in Oz tho.
Under the right circumstances and if things really go belly up,
toilet paper could
well be set to become the world's dominant currency. That and hand cream.
Rolls of bog paper could be selling on eBay for 100's of pounds,
Think about it.
michael adams
...

defacto currency...Mmmmmmm

You mean 'defecato' currency?
--
Ian

On 07/03/2020 09:30, Jim Stewart wrote:
On 07/03/2020 09:21, nightjar wrote:
On 06/03/2020 19:51, Rod Speed wrote:
....
It was while you were on holiday or something like that.
When I go away, I either drive where I am going or, more rarely these
days, leave my car in an airport car park.

and when you come back the battery is flat because of the current drain
that modern cars have

The car automatically shuts down power feeds, other than parking lights
and the alarm, after it has been switched off for a certain amount of
time. That caused problems for the engineer who fitted the Tracker unit.
He eventually had to run a wire straight from the battery, as he
couldn't find any power lead that stayed on overnight.

--
Colin Bignell

On 07/03/2020 07:48, Jim Stewart wrote:
On 06/03/2020 19:37, nightjar wrote:
On 06/03/2020 17:40, Jim Stewart wrote:
On 06/03/2020 15:46, nightjar wrote:
On 06/03/2020 10:31, Jim Stewart wrote:
Home bargains in Hawick has hand sanitiser two bottles per
customer.......

I have several bottles of hand sanitizer, a large box of medical
surface wipes, a similar box of hand disinfecting wipes, a good
supply of P3 face masks, boxes of nitrile gloves in two sizes and
wraparound protective glasses. All bought online within the past
week or so. Looking at the same sites now, it seems I got in just
ahead of the rush.

horder

Prepper :-)

headcase

Simply cautious, given that both my partner and me are high risk, both
due to age and medical conditions.

--
Colin Bignell

On 07/03/2020 10:19, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 07/03/2020 09:54, Pancho wrote:

Vodka go upto 95%


No. 95 proof possibly - about 46%

although you can but almost pure alcohol industrially or commercially
its blended down sub 50% for human consumption


Nyet! I meant 95% ABV.

I remember proof from a long time ago, I don't think I have seen it used
recently.

In article ,
michael adams mjadams25@ukonline wrote:
Under the right circumstances and if things really go belly up, toilet
paper could well be set to become the world's dominant currency. That
and hand cream. Rolls of bog paper could be selling on eBay for 100's of
pounds,

Remember the great bog roll crisis of the late 60s or early 70s?

Mate of mine had a small firm specialising in importing/exporting
antiques. At the time certain English furniture was in fashion in Italy.
Had a large van full to deliver there, to a dealer. Always on the lookout
for a return load, he filled it with bog rolls. Made a fortune.

--
*If I agreed with you, we'd both be wrong.

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message
...
On 07/03/2020 10:06, michael adams wrote:
"Rod Speed" wrote in message
...


"alan_m" wrote in message
...
On 06/03/2020 21:30, michael adams wrote:

Its probably all ******** but was probably recommended on a TV programme or
something.

When Mark Carney morphed from being a climate change expert to a medical expert
overnight and said that we are all going to be infected by Covid 19 the UK
population
took notice and started buying supplies for their 2 to 4 weeks of self isolation.

Doesn't explain why the supermarket shelves
have been stripped of dunny paper in Oz tho.

Under the right circumstances and if things really go belly up, toilet paper could
well be set to become the world's dominant currency. That and hand cream.
Rolls of bog paper could be selling on eBay for 100's of pounds,

Think about it.

Well i'll continue to wash my arse in the shower and launder my hand towels then.

I thought you poshos used bidets ?

Or did she take that with her, as part of the divorce settlement ?


michael adams

....

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article ,
michael adams mjadams25@ukonline wrote:
Under the right circumstances and if things really go belly up, toilet
paper could well be set to become the world's dominant currency. That
and hand cream. Rolls of bog paper could be selling on eBay for 100's of
pounds,

Remember the great bog roll crisis of the late 60s or early 70s?

Mate of mine had a small firm specialising in importing/exporting
antiques. At the time certain English furniture was in fashion in Italy.
Had a large van full to deliver there, to a dealer. Always on the lookout
for a return load, he filled it with bog rolls. Made a fortune.

Do you remember Ruby Wax ?

She was that (very annoying to some people ) American comedian/enne
(she still writes mental health books), who was on the TV a lot
in the 90's. She did a documentary "Wax goes to Russia" or someething.
This was after Macdonalds but before Gorby's fall - where she arrived
at Moscow airport customs with a suitcase full of toilet rolls.
Obviously for it to work they must have arranged to have her
case opened or maybe they do open them all. While she was there
she never stopped moaning and none of them raised as much
as a smile.
She did one visiting her parents in Chicago - her father had been
in the sausage business - where all their furniture - nice brocade
armchairs and sofas (if you like that sort of thing) was covered
in thick plastic sheeting so as to stop it getting dirty

michael adams

....

On 07/03/2020 11:26, Ian Jackson wrote:
In message , Jim Stewart
writes
On 07/03/2020 10:06, michael adams wrote:
"Rod Speed" wrote in message
...


"alan_m" wrote in message
...
On 06/03/2020 21:30, michael adams wrote:

Its probably all ******** but was probably recommended on a TV
programme or
something.

When Mark Carney morphed from being a climate change expert to a
medical expert
overnight and said that we are all going to be infected by Covid 19
the UK population
took notice and started buying supplies for their 2 to 4 weeks of
self isolation.

Doesn't explain why the supermarket shelves
have been stripped of dunny paper in Oz tho.
Â*Under the right circumstances and if things really go belly up,
toilet paper could
well be set to become the world's dominant currency. That and hand
cream.
Rolls of bog paper could be selling on eBay for 100's of pounds,
Â*Think about it.
Â* michael adams
Â*...

defacto currency...Mmmmmmm

You mean 'defecato' currency?
no

On 07/03/2020 14:21, michael adams wrote:
"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article ,
michael adams mjadams25@ukonline wrote:
Under the right circumstances and if things really go belly up, toilet
paper could well be set to become the world's dominant currency. That
and hand cream. Rolls of bog paper could be selling on eBay for 100's of
pounds,

Remember the great bog roll crisis of the late 60s or early 70s?

Mate of mine had a small firm specialising in importing/exporting
antiques. At the time certain English furniture was in fashion in Italy.
Had a large van full to deliver there, to a dealer. Always on the lookout
for a return load, he filled it with bog rolls. Made a fortune.

Do you remember Ruby Wax ?

She was that (very annoying to some people ) American comedian/enne
(she still writes mental health books), who was on the TV a lot
in the 90's. She did a documentary "Wax goes to Russia" or someething.
This was after Macdonalds but before Gorby's fall - where she arrived
at Moscow airport customs with a suitcase full of toilet rolls.


Certainly in (at least some of) the former 'bits' which made up the
USSR, things like toilet rolls were often in short supply- I know
someone who used to travel to various former bits.

Likewise, having met people from the former East Germany and Poland who
experienced communist rule, shortages of things we take not only for
granted but probably consider essentials (even if they aren't) were the
norm. People would learn that a stock of, perhaps, mens shirts was due
and would queue up for ages. On getting to the point of sale, all the
shirts would be one size and colour was an example I was told.

Perhaps this explains why there weren't people trying to 'climb' over
the Berlin Wall West to East.

On 07/03/2020 14:53, Brian Reay wrote:
On 07/03/2020 14:21, michael adams wrote:
"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Â*Â* michael adams mjadams25@ukonline wrote:
Under the right circumstances and if things really go belly up, toilet
paper could well be set to become the world's dominant currency. That
and hand cream. Rolls of bog paper could be selling on eBay for
100's of
pounds,

Remember the great bog roll crisis of the late 60s or early 70s?

Mate of mine had a small firm specialising in importing/exporting
antiques. At the time certain English furniture was in fashion in Italy.
Had a large van full to deliver there, to a dealer. Always on the
lookout
for a return load, he filled it with bog rolls. Made a fortune.

Do you remember Ruby Wax ?

She was that (very annoying to some people ) American comedian/enne
(she still writes mental health books), who was on the TV a lot
in the 90's. She did a documentary "Wax goes to Russia" or someething.
This was after Macdonalds but before Gorby's fall - where she arrived
at Moscow airport customs with a suitcase full of toilet rolls.


Certainly in (at least some of) the former 'bits' which made up the
USSR, things like toilet rolls were often in short supply- I know
someone who used to travel to various former bits.

Likewise, having met people from the former East Germany and Poland who
experienced communist rule, shortages of things we take not only for
granted but probably consider essentials (even if they aren't) were the
norm. People would learn that a stock of, perhaps, mens shirts was due
and would queue up for ages. On getting to the point of sale, all the
shirts would be one size and colour was an example I was told.

Perhaps this explains why there weren't people trying to 'climb' over
the Berlin Wall West to East.




they made the best solyanka ....worth climbing the wall for.....

On 07/03/2020 14:58, Jim Stewart wrote:
On 07/03/2020 14:53, Brian Reay wrote:
On 07/03/2020 14:21, michael adams wrote:
"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Â*Â* michael adams mjadams25@ukonline wrote:
Under the right circumstances and if things really go belly up, toilet
paper could well be set to become the world's dominant currency. That
and hand cream. Rolls of bog paper could be selling on eBay for
100's of
pounds,

Remember the great bog roll crisis of the late 60s or early 70s?

Mate of mine had a small firm specialising in importing/exporting
antiques. At the time certain English furniture was in fashion in
Italy.
Had a large van full to deliver there, to a dealer. Always on the
lookout
for a return load, he filled it with bog rolls. Made a fortune.

Do you remember Ruby Wax ?

She was that (very annoying to some people ) American comedian/enne
(she still writes mental health books), who was on the TV a lot
in the 90's. She did a documentary "Wax goes to Russia" or someething.
This was after Macdonalds but before Gorby's fall - where she arrived
at Moscow airport customs with a suitcase full of toilet rolls.


Certainly in (at least some of) the former 'bits' which made up the
USSR, things like toilet rolls were often in short supply- I know
someone who used to travel to various former bits.

Likewise, having met people from the former East Germany and Poland
who experienced communist rule, shortages of things we take not only
for granted but probably consider essentials (even if they aren't)
were the norm. People would learn that a stock of, perhaps, mens
shirts was due and would queue up for ages. On getting to the point of
sale, all the shirts would be one size and colour was an example I was
told.

Perhaps this explains why there weren't people trying to 'climb' over
the Berlin Wall West to East.




they made the best solyanka ....worth climbing the wall for.....


Can't say I've tried it. It sounds interesting. The recipe reminds me of
another I've seen (I like soups) but I can't think what it was called-
it was also described as 'everything but the kitchen sink', which the
recipe of for solyanka was I've just found.

I may well try making some.

On 07/03/2020 12:39, Pancho wrote:
On 07/03/2020 10:19, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 07/03/2020 09:54, Pancho wrote:

Vodka go upto 95%


No. 95 proof possibly - about 46%

although you can but almost pure alcohol industrially or commercially
its blended down sub 50% for human consumption


Nyet! I meant 95% ABV.

I remember proof from a long time ago, I don't think I have seen it used
recently.
Point me to a place where 95% vodka is on retail sale or I'll call you a
liar.


--
The lifetime of any political organisation is about three years before
its been subverted by the people it tried to warn you about.

Anon.

On 07/03/2020 14:09, michael adams wrote:
"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message
...
On 07/03/2020 10:06, michael adams wrote:
"Rod Speed" wrote in message
...


"alan_m" wrote in message
...
On 06/03/2020 21:30, michael adams wrote:

Its probably all ******** but was probably recommended on a TV programme or
something.

When Mark Carney morphed from being a climate change expert to a medical expert
overnight and said that we are all going to be infected by Covid 19 the UK
population
took notice and started buying supplies for their 2 to 4 weeks of self isolation.

Doesn't explain why the supermarket shelves
have been stripped of dunny paper in Oz tho.

Under the right circumstances and if things really go belly up, toilet paper could
well be set to become the world's dominant currency. That and hand cream.
Rolls of bog paper could be selling on eBay for 100's of pounds,

Think about it.

Well i'll continue to wash my arse in the shower and launder my hand towels then.

I thought you poshos used bidets ?

What makes you think I am posh?
Actually I should have installed bidets.


Or did she take that with her, as part of the divorce settlement ?


Nope.

--
The lifetime of any political organisation is about three years before
its been subverted by the people it tried to warn you about.

Anon.

On 07/03/2020 15:07, Brian Reay wrote:
On 07/03/2020 14:58, Jim Stewart wrote:
On 07/03/2020 14:53, Brian Reay wrote:
On 07/03/2020 14:21, michael adams wrote:
"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Â*Â* michael adams mjadams25@ukonline wrote:
Under the right circumstances and if things really go belly up,
toilet
paper could well be set to become the world's dominant currency. That
and hand cream. Rolls of bog paper could be selling on eBay for
100's of
pounds,

Remember the great bog roll crisis of the late 60s or early 70s?

Mate of mine had a small firm specialising in importing/exporting
antiques. At the time certain English furniture was in fashion in
Italy.
Had a large van full to deliver there, to a dealer. Always on the
lookout
for a return load, he filled it with bog rolls. Made a fortune.

Do you remember Ruby Wax ?

She was that (very annoying to some people ) American comedian/enne
(she still writes mental health books), who was on the TV a lot
in the 90's. She did a documentary "Wax goes to Russia" or someething.
This was after Macdonalds but before Gorby's fall - where she arrived
at Moscow airport customs with a suitcase full of toilet rolls.


Certainly in (at least some of) the former 'bits' which made up the
USSR, things like toilet rolls were often in short supply- I know
someone who used to travel to various former bits.

Likewise, having met people from the former East Germany and Poland
who experienced communist rule, shortages of things we take not only
for granted but probably consider essentials (even if they aren't)
were the norm. People would learn that a stock of, perhaps, mens
shirts was due and would queue up for ages. On getting to the point
of sale, all the shirts would be one size and colour was an example I
was told.

Perhaps this explains why there weren't people trying to 'climb' over
the Berlin Wall West to East.




they made the best solyanka ....worth climbing the wall for.....


Can't say I've tried it. It sounds interesting. The recipe reminds me of
another I've seen (I like soups) but I can't think what it was called-
it was also described as 'everything but the kitchen sink', which the
recipe of for solyanka was I've just found.

I may well try making some.





I couldn't get enough of it when I went to Germany in 2012 ...not had it
since ... can't get it anywhere

On 07/03/2020 14:53, Brian Reay wrote:
On 07/03/2020 14:21, michael adams wrote:
"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Â*Â* michael adams mjadams25@ukonline wrote:
Under the right circumstances and if things really go belly up, toilet
paper could well be set to become the world's dominant currency. That
and hand cream. Rolls of bog paper could be selling on eBay for
100's of
pounds,

Remember the great bog roll crisis of the late 60s or early 70s?

Mate of mine had a small firm specialising in importing/exporting
antiques. At the time certain English furniture was in fashion in Italy.
Had a large van full to deliver there, to a dealer. Always on the
lookout
for a return load, he filled it with bog rolls. Made a fortune.

Do you remember Ruby Wax ?

She was that (very annoying to some people ) American comedian/enne
(she still writes mental health books), who was on the TV a lot
in the 90's. She did a documentary "Wax goes to Russia" or someething.
This was after Macdonalds but before Gorby's fall - where she arrived
at Moscow airport customs with a suitcase full of toilet rolls.


Certainly in (at least some of) the former 'bits' which made up the
USSR, things like toilet rolls were often in short supply- I know
someone who used to travel to various former bits.

Hotel I stayed at in Czech republic just after the wall came down had no
lightbulbs.

Taxi driver had an honours degree in physics

****ing commies. There was a loudspeaker on every street corner. They
told us it used to play happy music for commie workers and tell them how
bad things were in the West.

East Germany was like a horror film


Likewise, having met people from the former East Germany and Poland who
experienced communist rule, shortages of things we take not only for
granted but probably consider essentials (even if they aren't) were the
norm. People would learn that a stock of, perhaps, mens shirts was due
and would queue up for ages. On getting to the point of sale, all the
shirts would be one size and colour was an example I was told.

Perhaps this explains why there weren't people trying to 'climb' over
the Berlin Wall West to East.


Indeed.
Snoflakes today have no idea what they are wishing for.





--
Climate Change: Socialism wearing a lab coat.

On Sat, 7 Mar 2020 15:15:58 +0000, Jim Stewart
wrote:

On 07/03/2020 15:07, Brian Reay wrote:
On 07/03/2020 14:58, Jim Stewart wrote:
On 07/03/2020 14:53, Brian Reay wrote:
On 07/03/2020 14:21, michael adams wrote:
"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article ,
** michael adams mjadams25@ukonline wrote:
Under the right circumstances and if things really go belly up,
toilet
paper could well be set to become the world's dominant currency. That
and hand cream. Rolls of bog paper could be selling on eBay for
100's of
pounds,

Remember the great bog roll crisis of the late 60s or early 70s?

Mate of mine had a small firm specialising in importing/exporting
antiques. At the time certain English furniture was in fashion in
Italy.
Had a large van full to deliver there, to a dealer. Always on the
lookout
for a return load, he filled it with bog rolls. Made a fortune.

Do you remember Ruby Wax ?

She was that (very annoying to some people ) American comedian/enne
(she still writes mental health books), who was on the TV a lot
in the 90's. She did a documentary "Wax goes to Russia" or someething.
This was after Macdonalds but before Gorby's fall - where she arrived
at Moscow airport customs with a suitcase full of toilet rolls.


Certainly in (at least some of) the former 'bits' which made up the
USSR, things like toilet rolls were often in short supply- I know
someone who used to travel to various former bits.

Likewise, having met people from the former East Germany and Poland
who experienced communist rule, shortages of things we take not only
for granted but probably consider essentials (even if they aren't)
were the norm. People would learn that a stock of, perhaps, mens
shirts was due and would queue up for ages. On getting to the point
of sale, all the shirts would be one size and colour was an example I
was told.

Perhaps this explains why there weren't people trying to 'climb' over
the Berlin Wall West to East.




they made the best solyanka ....worth climbing the wall for.....


Can't say I've tried it. It sounds interesting. The recipe reminds me of
another I've seen (I like soups) but I can't think what it was called-
it was also described as 'everything but the kitchen sink', which the
recipe of for solyanka was I've just found.

I may well try making some.





I couldn't get enough of it when I went to Germany in 2012 ...not had it
since ... can't get it anywhere

Had some in East Berlin last Christmas. A lot of places had it on the
menu.

On 07/03/2020 12:27, nightjar wrote:
On 07/03/2020 07:48, Jim Stewart wrote:
On 06/03/2020 19:37, nightjar wrote:
On 06/03/2020 17:40, Jim Stewart wrote:
On 06/03/2020 15:46, nightjar wrote:
On 06/03/2020 10:31, Jim Stewart wrote:
Home bargains in Hawick has hand sanitiser two bottles per
customer.......

I have several bottles of hand sanitizer, a large box of medical
surface wipes, a similar box of hand disinfecting wipes, a good
supply of P3 face masks, boxes of nitrile gloves in two sizes and
wraparound protective glasses. All bought online within the past
week or so. Looking at the same sites now, it seems I got in just
ahead of the rush.

horder

Prepper :-)

headcase

Simply cautious, given that both my partner and me are high risk, both
due to age and medical conditions.

us us us...take a chance

On 07/03/2020 12:26, nightjar wrote:
On 07/03/2020 09:30, Jim Stewart wrote:
On 07/03/2020 09:21, nightjar wrote:
On 06/03/2020 19:51, Rod Speed wrote:
...
It was while you were on holiday or something like that.
When I go away, I either drive where I am going or, more rarely these
days, leave my car in an airport car park.

and when you come back the battery is flat because of the current
drain that modern cars have

The car automatically shuts down power feeds, other than parking lights
and the alarm, after it has been switched off for a certain amount of
time. That caused problems for the engineer who fitted the Tracker unit.
He eventually had to run a wire straight from the battery, as he
couldn't find any power lead that stayed on overnight.

unusual you can leave old cars about a month and they start right
up...shows great strength of character....I have found more modern cars
don't ....

On 07/03/2020 15:40, Rambo wrote:
On Sat, 7 Mar 2020 15:15:58 +0000, Jim Stewart
wrote:

On 07/03/2020 15:07, Brian Reay wrote:
On 07/03/2020 14:58, Jim Stewart wrote:
On 07/03/2020 14:53, Brian Reay wrote:
On 07/03/2020 14:21, michael adams wrote:
"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Â*Â* michael adams mjadams25@ukonline wrote:
Under the right circumstances and if things really go belly up,
toilet
paper could well be set to become the world's dominant currency. That
and hand cream. Rolls of bog paper could be selling on eBay for
100's of
pounds,

Remember the great bog roll crisis of the late 60s or early 70s?

Mate of mine had a small firm specialising in importing/exporting
antiques. At the time certain English furniture was in fashion in
Italy.
Had a large van full to deliver there, to a dealer. Always on the
lookout
for a return load, he filled it with bog rolls. Made a fortune.

Do you remember Ruby Wax ?

She was that (very annoying to some people ) American comedian/enne
(she still writes mental health books), who was on the TV a lot
in the 90's. She did a documentary "Wax goes to Russia" or someething.
This was after Macdonalds but before Gorby's fall - where she arrived
at Moscow airport customs with a suitcase full of toilet rolls.


Certainly in (at least some of) the former 'bits' which made up the
USSR, things like toilet rolls were often in short supply- I know
someone who used to travel to various former bits.

Likewise, having met people from the former East Germany and Poland
who experienced communist rule, shortages of things we take not only
for granted but probably consider essentials (even if they aren't)
were the norm. People would learn that a stock of, perhaps, mens
shirts was due and would queue up for ages. On getting to the point
of sale, all the shirts would be one size and colour was an example I
was told.

Perhaps this explains why there weren't people trying to 'climb' over
the Berlin Wall West to East.




they made the best solyanka ....worth climbing the wall for.....


Can't say I've tried it. It sounds interesting. The recipe reminds me of
another I've seen (I like soups) but I can't think what it was called-
it was also described as 'everything but the kitchen sink', which the
recipe of for solyanka was I've just found.

I may well try making some.





I couldn't get enough of it when I went to Germany in 2012 ...not had it
since ... can't get it anywhere

Had some in East Berlin last Christmas. A lot of places had it on the
menu.

best place to get it...you can buy it there in those sausage like
plastic bags ...

On 07/03/2020 09:36, Rod Speed wrote:


"nightjar" wrote in message
...
On 06/03/2020 19:51, Rod Speed wrote:


"nightjar" wrote in message
...
....
I've never had a car that won't be used for a while.

It was while you were on holiday or something like that.

When I go away, I either drive where I am going or, more rarely these
days, leave my car in an airport car park.

You didnt then.

When is 'then' supposed to be? The only thing about that pattern that
has changed since I first owned a car is the relative probability of my
driving to my destination or driving to the airport.

As I said, I have never laid a car up. I hadn't even heard of the idea
of wrapping the wheels in brown paper until you mentioned it earlier in
this thread. I don't see the point either. If you want to keep oxygen
from them, plastic would be better. If you want to protect them from
direct sunlight, simply do what a caravan owner I knew did - place a
sheet of plywood up against the wheel.

--
Colin Bignell

On 07/03/2020 15:16, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 07/03/2020 14:53, Brian Reay wrote:
On 07/03/2020 14:21, michael adams wrote:
"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Â*Â* michael adams mjadams25@ukonline wrote:
Under the right circumstances and if things really go belly up, toilet
paper could well be set to become the world's dominant currency. That
and hand cream. Rolls of bog paper could be selling on eBay for
100's of
pounds,

Remember the great bog roll crisis of the late 60s or early 70s?

Mate of mine had a small firm specialising in importing/exporting
antiques. At the time certain English furniture was in fashion in
Italy.
Had a large van full to deliver there, to a dealer. Always on the
lookout
for a return load, he filled it with bog rolls. Made a fortune.

Do you remember Ruby Wax ?

She was that (very annoying to some people ) American comedian/enne
(she still writes mental health books), who was on the TV a lot
in the 90's. She did a documentary "Wax goes to Russia" or someething.
This was after Macdonalds but before Gorby's fall - where she arrived
at Moscow airport customs with a suitcase full of toilet rolls.


Certainly in (at least some of) the former 'bits' which made up the
USSR, things like toilet rolls were often in short supply- I know
someone who used to travel to various former bits.

Hotel I stayed at in Czech republic just after the wall came down had no
lightbulbs.

Taxi driver had an honours degree in physics

****ing commies. There was a loudspeaker on every street corner. They
told us it used to play happy music for commie workers and tell them how
bad things were in the West.

East Germany was like a horror film


We've still people, not all who can use youth as an excuse, who insist
we should adopt their system.

Chris Green wrote:
What is one supposed to do with a toilet roll that helps
avoid a viral infection? ... or shouldn't I ask?

Getting extra toilet roll doesn't help avoid a viral infection. It
helps you and your family avoid running out of toilet roll during
an unscheduled covid-19 induced two week isolation period.

#Paul

#Paul wrote:
Chris Green wrote:
What is one supposed to do with a toilet roll that helps
avoid a viral infection? ... or shouldn't I ask?

Getting extra toilet roll doesn't help avoid a viral infection. It
helps you and your family avoid running out of toilet roll during
an unscheduled covid-19 induced two week isolation period.

If it gets that serious running out of toilet roll is going to be the
least of our worries isn't it?

--
Chris Green
·

"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message
...

East Germany was like a horror film

It was supposed to be. There's no way the Russians would allow Germans who killed
24,000,000 Russians in the war to enjoy better living standards than those
back home in Russia.

While both history and geography dictate that no country can hope to compete
with a country with extensive coastlines on two major oceans, which was built
on genocide, slavery, and the brains of Europe. latterly Jews fleeing Hitler,
lavishly topped off with a good helping of rewritten history and sanctimonious
bull****.*

No country can compete with that; certainly not a country with Russia's history and
geography. As to Central Europe that's always been a mishmash of nationalities
formerly held together under a ramshackle Habsburg Empire which the deprivations
of two World Wars did nothing to improve.Mainly landlocked with whole swathes of
it still inaccessible by road no Central European Country would ever be in a position
to compete directly with the USA. Hence the attraction for them of the EU.

michael adams

....
* Which Stain wanted no part of; hence his rejection of all further aid at the
end of the war.

"Jim Stewart" wrote in message
...
On 07/03/2020 09:34, Rod Speed wrote:


"Jim Stewart" wrote in message
...
On 07/03/2020 08:12, Cynic wrote:
Admittedly from Facebook source so take it or leave it for accuracy but
worth thinking about.
"I'm a doctor and an Infectious Diseases Specialist. I've been at
this for more than 20 years seeing sick patients on a daily basis. I
have worked in inner city hospitals and in the poorest slums of Africa.
HIV-AIDS, Hepatitis,TB, SARS, Measles, Shingles, Whooping cough,
Diphtheria...there is little I haven't been exposed to in my
profession. And with notable exception of SARS, very little has left me
feeling vulnerable, overwhelmed or downright scared.

I am not scared of Covid-19. I am concerned about the implications of a
novel infectious agent that has spread the world over and continues to
find new footholds in different soil. I am rightly concerned for the
welfare of those who are elderly, in frail health or disenfranchised
who stand to suffer mostly, and disproportionately, at the hands of
this new scourge. But I am not scared of Covid-19.

What I am scared about is the loss of reason and wave of fear that has
induced the masses of society into a spellbinding spiral of panic,
stockpiling obscene quantities of anything that could fill a bomb
shelter adequately in a post-apocalyptic world. I am scared of the N95
masks that are stolen from hospitals and urgent care clinics where they
are actually needed for front line healthcare providers and instead are
being donned in airports, malls, and coffee lounges, perpetuating even
more fear and suspicion of others. I am scared that our hospitals will
be overwhelmed with anyone who thinks they " probably don't have it but
may as well get checked out no matter what because you just never
know..." and those with heart failure, emphysema, pneumonia and
strokes will pay the price for overfilled ER waiting rooms with only so
many doctors and nurses to assess.

I am scared that travel restrictions will become so far reaching that
weddings will be canceled, graduations missed and family reunions will
not materialize. And well, even that big party called the Olympic
Games...that could be kyboshed too. Can you even
imagine?

I'm scared those same epidemic fears will limit trade, harm
partnerships in multiple sectors, business and otherwise and ultimately
culminate in a global recession.

But mostly, I'm scared about what message we are telling our kids when
faced with a threat. Instead of reason, rationality, openmindedness and
altruism, we are telling them to panic, be fearful, suspicious,
reactionary and self-interested.

Covid-19 is nowhere near over. It will be coming to a city, a hospital,
a friend, even a family member near you at some point. Expect it. Stop
waiting to be surprised further. The fact is the virus itself will not
likely do much harm when it arrives. But our own behaviors and "fight
for yourself above all else" attitude could prove disastrous.

I implore you all. Temper fear with reason, panic with patience and
uncertainty with education. We have an opportunity to learn a great
deal about health hygiene and limiting the spread of innumerable
transmissible diseases in our society. Let's meet this challenge
together in the best spirit of compassion for others, patience, and
above all, an unfailing effort to seek truth, facts and knowledge as
opposed to conjecture, speculation and catastrophizing.

Facts not fear. Clean hands. Open hearts.
Our children will thank us for it.

#washurhands #geturflushot #respect #patiencenotpanic

don't see the point of stockpiling food...

More fool you...

when you get it you won't be hungry ...

But when you are self isolating without having got it, you may well be.

why would I do that ? ...

Because it can take up to a month from you being
infected to showing symptoms and you can infect
others during that time before symptoms show up..

Thats how that pom who caught it at a conference
in singapore managed to infect so many in France
and the UK.