On 28/02/2020 00:24, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Steve Walker wrote:
The alternators are far bigger than anything needed for an electric fan
- on my previous car, it could drive a 1kW electric heater to speed up
heating of the car, as the highly efficient diesel was too slow to warm
up in the winter!

Why not an aux diesel burning heater? Far better than a puny 1kW.

BTW, 1kW is only just over 1 BHP. Some fans take more than that.


VW411 - auxiliary petrol heater :-)

In article ,
Andrew wrote:
Cheap oil is not synthetic. Modern cars run at much higher temperatures
than mineral oil can cope with. On old cast-iron lumps it is the wear
on things like camshaft lobes that might be more of a problem if you
use the wrong oil.

Valve train wear on an old pushrod design is due to the higher loading
than an OHC type, and minimised by a suitable additive. Normally ZDDP.
Which can be used with mineral or synthetic. It's not a common additive
these days as catalytic converters don't like it. But you can buy
specialist oils with it, for use in older cars.

--
*Since light travels faster than sound, some people appear bright until you hear them speak.

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

On Monday, 2 March 2020 14:18:36 UTC, Andrew wrote:
On 27/02/2020 22:21, Bob Eager wrote:
On Thu, 27 Feb 2020 11:24:55 -0800, harry wrote:

On Wednesday, 26 February 2020 18:37:18 UTC, Andrew wrote:
On 26/02/2020 11:26, wrote:
On Wednesday, 26 February 2020 11:12:20 UTC, Dave Plowman (News)
wrote:
In article
914905786.604359015.715048.tim.downie-
,
Tim+ wrote:
Cars haven� had fan belts for years. Fans are all electric these
days.

********.

AFAIK those aren't normally electric.


The term 'fan belt' is the problem. All? cars still have the belt but
it drives the water pump, alternator, air-con and sometimes power
steering too, while the fan is always thermostatically-controlled
electric in 'normal' cars.

My Astra has an electric hydraulic steering pump.

Latest Astra doesn't even have a thermostat, there is a gate valve
controlled by the ECU directly.

I have an electric car.
No belts of any description.
No clutch, gearbox, exhaust, oil, oil filter, air filter, alternator,
starter motor either,

No range.



And still costs just as much to 'service' by a franchised dealer

Nah.
All there is is fluids to check. Brake pads used very little and last 40,000 miles. Ten minutes work.

On Monday, 2 March 2020 14:23:02 UTC, Andrew wrote:
On 28/02/2020 00:24, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Steve Walker wrote:
The alternators are far bigger than anything needed for an electric fan
- on my previous car, it could drive a 1kW electric heater to speed up
heating of the car, as the highly efficient diesel was too slow to warm
up in the winter!

Why not an aux diesel burning heater? Far better than a puny 1kW.

BTW, 1kW is only just over 1 BHP. Some fans take more than that.

0.476Kw = 1HP

On Monday, 2 March 2020 15:32:49 UTC, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Andrew wrote:
Cheap oil is not synthetic. Modern cars run at much higher temperatures
than mineral oil can cope with. On old cast-iron lumps it is the wear
on things like camshaft lobes that might be more of a problem if you
use the wrong oil.

Valve train wear on an old pushrod design is due to the higher loading
than an OHC type, and minimised by a suitable additive. Normally ZDDP.
Which can be used with mineral or synthetic. It's not a common additive
these days as catalytic converters don't like it. But you can buy
specialist oils with it, for use in older cars.


Proper cars have hydraulic lifters that need no adjustment.

In your universe, perhaps.In article
, harry
wrote:
On Monday, 2 March 2020 14:23:02 UTC, Andrew wrote:
On 28/02/2020 00:24, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article , Steve Walker
wrote:
The alternators are far bigger than anything needed for an electric
fan - on my previous car, it could drive a 1kW electric heater to
speed up heating of the car, as the highly efficient diesel was too
slow to warm up in the winter!

Why not an aux diesel burning heater? Far better than a puny 1kW.

BTW, 1kW is only just over 1 BHP. Some fans take more than that.

0.476Kw = 1HP

In your universe, perhaps. On Earth it 748 watts to 1 horsepower.

--
from KT24 in Surrey, England
"I'd rather die of exhaustion than die of boredom" Thomas Carlyle

On Monday, 2 March 2020 17:38:28 UTC, charles wrote:
In your universe, perhaps.In article
, harry
wrote:
On Monday, 2 March 2020 14:23:02 UTC, Andrew wrote:
On 28/02/2020 00:24, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article , Steve Walker
wrote:
The alternators are far bigger than anything needed for an electric
fan - on my previous car, it could drive a 1kW electric heater to
speed up heating of the car, as the highly efficient diesel was too
slow to warm up in the winter!

Why not an aux diesel burning heater? Far better than a puny 1kW.

BTW, 1kW is only just over 1 BHP. Some fans take more than that.

0.476Kw = 1HP

In your universe, perhaps. On Earth it 748 watts to 1 horsepower.

`Is that so ****-fer-brains?
https://www.rapidtables.com/convert/...p-to-watt.html

On Monday, 2 March 2020 17:21:53 UTC, harry wrote:
On Monday, 2 March 2020 14:23:02 UTC, Andrew wrote:
On 28/02/2020 00:24, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

BTW, 1kW is only just over 1 BHP. Some fans take more than that.

0.476Kw = 1HP

1hp = 740w. Not sure what a hamsterpower is though.


NT

On Monday, 2 March 2020 19:18:26 UTC, harry wrote:
On Monday, 2 March 2020 17:38:28 UTC, charles wrote:
In your universe, perhaps.In article
, harry
wrote:

BTW, 1kW is only just over 1 BHP. Some fans take more than that.

0.476Kw = 1HP

In your universe, perhaps. On Earth it 748 watts to 1 horsepower.

`Is that so ****-fer-brains?
https://www.rapidtables.com/convert/...p-to-watt.html

gives the figure of 745.699872W

In article ,
wrote:
On Monday, 2 March 2020 19:18:26 UTC, harry wrote:
On Monday, 2 March 2020 17:38:28 UTC, charles wrote:
In your universe, perhaps.In article
, harry
wrote:

BTW, 1kW is only just over 1 BHP. Some fans take more than that.

0.476Kw = 1HP

In your universe, perhaps. On Earth it 748 watts to 1 horsepower.

`Is that so ****-fer-brains?
https://www.rapidtables.com/convert/...p-to-watt.html

gives the figure of 745.699872W

I suspect that the 7 & the 4 got transposed.

--
from KT24 in Surrey, England
"I'd rather die of exhaustion than die of boredom" Thomas Carlyle

In article ,
harry wrote:
On Monday, 2 March 2020 17:38:28 UTC, charles wrote:
In your universe, perhaps.In article
, harry
wrote:
On Monday, 2 March 2020 14:23:02 UTC, Andrew wrote:
On 28/02/2020 00:24, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article , Steve Walker
wrote:
The alternators are far bigger than anything needed for an electric
fan - on my previous car, it could drive a 1kW electric heater to
speed up heating of the car, as the highly efficient diesel was too
slow to warm up in the winter!

Why not an aux diesel burning heater? Far better than a puny 1kW.

BTW, 1kW is only just over 1 BHP. Some fans take more than that.

0.476Kw = 1HP

In your universe, perhaps. On Earth it 748 watts to 1 horsepower.

`Is that so ****-fer-brains?
https://www.rapidtables.com/convert/...p-to-watt.html

Doncha just love it when harry gives the proof he is wrong?

--
*Elephants are the only mammals that can't jump *

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

On Monday, 2 March 2020 19:53:01 UTC, wrote:
On Monday, 2 March 2020 19:18:26 UTC, harry wrote:
On Monday, 2 March 2020 17:38:28 UTC, charles wrote:
In your universe, perhaps.In article
, harry
wrote:

BTW, 1kW is only just over 1 BHP. Some fans take more than that.

0.476Kw = 1HP

In your universe, perhaps. On Earth it 748 watts to 1 horsepower.

`Is that so ****-fer-brains?
https://www.rapidtables.com/convert/...p-to-watt.html

gives the figure of 745.699872W

Scroll down a bit more.

On Monday, 2 March 2020 20:16:00 UTC, charles wrote:
In article ,
wrote:
On Monday, 2 March 2020 19:18:26 UTC, harry wrote:
On Monday, 2 March 2020 17:38:28 UTC, charles wrote:
In your universe, perhaps.In article
, harry
wrote:

BTW, 1kW is only just over 1 BHP. Some fans take more than that.

0.476Kw = 1HP

In your universe, perhaps. On Earth it 748 watts to 1 horsepower.

`Is that so ****-fer-brains?
https://www.rapidtables.com/convert/...p-to-watt.html

gives the figure of 745.699872W

I suspect that the 7 & the 4 got transposed.

No they weren't.
Plus if you scroll down a bit further it points out the difference between a HP electrical and a HP mechanical.

You ARE a ****-fer-brains.

On Tuesday, 3 March 2020 07:41:56 UTC, harry wrote:
On Monday, 2 March 2020 20:16:00 UTC, charles wrote:
In article ,
tabbypurr wrote:
On Monday, 2 March 2020 19:18:26 UTC, harry wrote:
On Monday, 2 March 2020 17:38:28 UTC, charles wrote:
In your universe, perhaps.In article
, harry
wrote:

BTW, 1kW is only just over 1 BHP. Some fans take more than that.

0.476Kw = 1HP

In your universe, perhaps. On Earth it 748 watts to 1 horsepower.

`Is that so ****-fer-brains?
https://www.rapidtables.com/convert/...p-to-watt.html

gives the figure of 745.699872W

I suspect that the 7 & the 4 got transposed.

No they weren't.
Plus if you scroll down a bit further it points out the difference between a HP electrical and a HP mechanical.

You ARE a ****-fer-brains.

From your link...
1 mechanical horsepower: 745.699872W
1 electrical horsepower: 746W
1 metric horsepower: 735.49875W

Your figure occurs nowhere on that page.


NT

On Tuesday, 3 March 2020 10:55:02 UTC, wrote:
On Tuesday, 3 March 2020 07:41:56 UTC, harry wrote:
On Monday, 2 March 2020 20:16:00 UTC, charles wrote:
In article ,
tabbypurr wrote:
On Monday, 2 March 2020 19:18:26 UTC, harry wrote:
On Monday, 2 March 2020 17:38:28 UTC, charles wrote:
In your universe, perhaps.In article
, harry
wrote:

BTW, 1kW is only just over 1 BHP. Some fans take more than that.

0.476Kw = 1HP

In your universe, perhaps. On Earth it 748 watts to 1 horsepower.

`Is that so ****-fer-brains?
https://www.rapidtables.com/convert/...p-to-watt.html

gives the figure of 745.699872W

I suspect that the 7 & the 4 got transposed.

No they weren't.
Plus if you scroll down a bit further it points out the difference between a HP electrical and a HP mechanical.

You ARE a ****-fer-brains.

From your link...
1 mechanical horsepower: 745.699872W
1 electrical horsepower: 746W
1 metric horsepower: 735.49875W

Your figure occurs nowhere on that page.

The figure I put forward was 746.
"Charles" is the ****-fer-brains who put forward 748
Who apparently has conspiracy theories about other planets.

harry wrote:

On Tuesday, 3 March 2020 10:55:02 UTC, wrote:
On Tuesday, 3 March 2020 07:41:56 UTC, harry wrote:
On Monday, 2 March 2020 20:16:00 UTC, charles wrote:
In article ,
tabbypurr wrote:
On Monday, 2 March 2020 19:18:26 UTC, harry wrote:
On Monday, 2 March 2020 17:38:28 UTC, charles wrote:
In your universe, perhaps.In article
,
harry
wrote:

BTW, 1kW is only just over 1 BHP. Some fans take more
than that.

0.476Kw = 1HP

In your universe, perhaps. On Earth it 748 watts to 1 horsepower.

`Is that so ****-fer-brains?
https://www.rapidtables.com/convert/...p-to-watt.html

gives the figure of 745.699872W

I suspect that the 7 & the 4 got transposed.

No they weren't. Plus if you scroll down a bit further it points out
the difference between a HP electrical and a HP mechanical.

You ARE a ****-fer-brains.

From your link...
1 mechanical horsepower: 745.699872W
1 electrical horsepower: 746W
1 metric horsepower: 735.49875W

Your figure occurs nowhere on that page.

The figure I put forward was 746.
"Charles" is the ****-fer-brains who put forward 748
Who apparently has conspiracy theories about other planets.

So the 476W was a typo then? That is what confused some of us.

--

Roger Hayter

In article ,
harry wrote:
On Tuesday, 3 March 2020 10:55:02 UTC, wrote:
On Tuesday, 3 March 2020 07:41:56 UTC, harry wrote:
On Monday, 2 March 2020 20:16:00 UTC, charles wrote:
In article
,
tabbypurr wrote:
On Monday, 2 March 2020 19:18:26 UTC, harry wrote:
On Monday, 2 March 2020 17:38:28 UTC, charles wrote:
In your universe, perhaps.In article
,
harry wrote:

BTW, 1kW is only just over 1 BHP. Some fans take more than that.

0.476Kw = 1HP

In your universe, perhaps. On Earth it 748 watts to 1 horsepower.

`Is that so ****-fer-brains?
https://www.rapidtables.com/convert/...p-to-watt.html

gives the figure of 745.699872W

I suspect that the 7 & the 4 got transposed.

No they weren't.
Plus if you scroll down a bit further it points out the difference between a HP electrical and a HP mechanical.

You ARE a ****-fer-brains.

From your link...
1 mechanical horsepower: 745.699872W
1 electrical horsepower: 746W
1 metric horsepower: 735.49875W

Your figure occurs nowhere on that page.

The figure I put forward was 746.

Err, just scroll up this page to see what you wrote. ;-)

"Charles" is the ****-fer-brains who put forward 748
Who apparently has conspiracy theories about other planets.

--
*If only you'd use your powers for good instead of evil.

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

On Wednesday, 4 March 2020 07:40:31 UTC, harry wrote:
On Tuesday, 3 March 2020 10:55:02 UTC, tabby wrote:
On Tuesday, 3 March 2020 07:41:56 UTC, harry wrote:
On Monday, 2 March 2020 20:16:00 UTC, charles wrote:
In article ,
tabbypurr wrote:
On Monday, 2 March 2020 19:18:26 UTC, harry wrote:
On Monday, 2 March 2020 17:38:28 UTC, charles wrote:
In your universe, perhaps.In article
, harry
wrote:

BTW, 1kW is only just over 1 BHP. Some fans take more than that.

0.476Kw = 1HP

In your universe, perhaps. On Earth it 748 watts to 1 horsepower.

`Is that so ****-fer-brains?
https://www.rapidtables.com/convert/...p-to-watt.html

gives the figure of 745.699872W

I suspect that the 7 & the 4 got transposed.

No they weren't.
Plus if you scroll down a bit further it points out the difference between a HP electrical and a HP mechanical.

You ARE a ****-fer-brains.

From your link...
1 mechanical horsepower: 745.699872W
1 electrical horsepower: 746W
1 metric horsepower: 735.49875W

Your figure occurs nowhere on that page.

The figure I put forward was 746.
"Charles" is the ****-fer-brains who put forward 748
Who apparently has conspiracy theories about other planets.

0.476Kw = 1HP