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Now that the 21st. century is well established I have down graded to a
gifted Alcatel *one touch* mobile phone! My grandchildren sport the
latest i phones but this does all I need and has a good battery
performance.

However, I have managed to corrupt the contact number for
sending/replying to SMS messages.
A *factory reset* has not fixed this.

I don't have a manual and the one offered on-line does not help.

Any suggestions?
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On 25/10/2019 10:46, Tim Lamb wrote:
One for the cognoscenti...

Now that the 21st. century is well established I have down graded to a
giftedÂ* Alcatel *one touch* mobile phone! My grandchildren sport the
latest i phones but this does all I need and has a good battery
performance.

However, I have managed to corrupt the contact number for
sending/replying to SMS messages.
A *factory reset* has not fixed this.

I don't have a manual and the one offered on-line does not help.

Any suggestions?


get a Nokia 1100 ......
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Tim Lamb wrote:
One for the cognoscenti...

Now that the 21st. century is well established I have down graded to a
gifted Alcatel *one touch* mobile phone! My grandchildren sport the
latest i phones but this does all I need and has a good battery
performance.

However, I have managed to corrupt the contact number for
sending/replying to SMS messages.
A *factory reset* has not fixed this.

I don't have a manual and the one offered on-line does not help.

Any suggestions?


Who is your service provider? Most have the required api settings available
on line for you to manually enter.

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I was always under the impression that the number you send to is the number
you would call. It always was that on my old Nokia and on the Iphone and
owasys in between, if anything else goes on in between the customer should
not be able to change it, its part of the sim.
I note with interest that the old 2g systems are being turned off soon,
although soon has been being said for a couple of years now, so older dumb
phones will, one day not work just as the old analogue ones all were killed
when they went gsm.
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Tim Lamb wrote:
One for the cognoscenti...

Now that the 21st. century is well established I have down graded to a
gifted Alcatel *one touch* mobile phone! My grandchildren sport the
latest i phones but this does all I need and has a good battery
performance.

However, I have managed to corrupt the contact number for
sending/replying to SMS messages.
A *factory reset* has not fixed this.

I don't have a manual and the one offered on-line does not help.

Any suggestions?


Who is your service provider? Most have the required api settings
available
on line for you to manually enter.

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On Fri, 25 Oct 2019 11:13:47 +0100, Brian Gaff \(Sofa\) wrote:

What number do you refer to??
Brian


You have to insert a number for the messaging centre. Once and for all,
usually.

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Tim Lamb wrote:
One for the cognoscenti...

Now that the 21st. century is well established I have down graded to a
gifted Alcatel *one touch* mobile phone! My grandchildren sport the
latest i phones but this does all I need and has a good battery
performance.

However, I have managed to corrupt the contact number for
sending/replying to SMS messages.
A *factory reset* has not fixed this.

I don't have a manual and the one offered on-line does not help.

Any suggestions?


Who is your service provider? Most have the required api settings available
on line for you to manually enter.


Vodafone!
api settings?
Display of ignorance level:-(

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Brian Gaff \(Sofa\) wrote:
I was always under the impression that the number you send to is the number
you would call. It always was that on my old Nokia and on the Iphone and
owasys in between, if anything else goes on in between the customer should
not be able to change it, its part of the sim.
I note with interest that the old 2g systems are being turned off soon,
although soon has been being said for a couple of years now, so older dumb
phones will, one day not work just as the old analogue ones all were killed
when they went gsm.
Brian


Where did you here 2G was being turned off? It is still widely used by, for
example, trackers and similar simple systems using the mobile phone
network. Some networks €˜sell some of their SIM deals on the basis they
still offer 2G.

Thank you.


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Tim Lamb wrote:
One for the cognoscenti...

Now that the 21st. century is well established I have down graded to a
gifted Alcatel *one touch* mobile phone! My grandchildren sport the
latest i phones but this does all I need and has a good battery
performance.

However, I have managed to corrupt the contact number for
sending/replying to SMS messages.
A *factory reset* has not fixed this.

I don't have a manual and the one offered on-line does not help.

Any suggestions?


Who is your service provider? Most have the required api settings available
on line for you to manually enter.


Vodafone!
api settings?
Display of ignorance level:-(


If its not a smart phone it probably doesnt have api settings. ;-)

This might help.


How do I set up text messages?
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Text messaging should be ready to go as soon as your phone's connected. If
it doesn't work straight away, there are two settings to check:

Message centre number - +447785016005
Message format - this should be set to text
You can test it by sending a text to 9770. We'll text you back if it's
working.

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On Friday, 25 October 2019 10:46:18 UTC+1, Tim Lamb wrote:
One for the cognoscenti...

Now that the 21st. century is well established I have down graded to a
gifted Alcatel *one touch* mobile phone! My grandchildren sport the
latest i phones but this does all I need and has a good battery
performance.

However, I have managed to corrupt the contact number for
sending/replying to SMS messages.
A *factory reset* has not fixed this.

I don't have a manual and the one offered on-line does not help.

Any suggestions?


Get a proper smartphone like an iPhone ;-)

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Tim+ writes
Tim Lamb wrote:
In message
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Tim+ writes
Tim Lamb wrote:
One for the cognoscenti...

Now that the 21st. century is well established I have down graded to a
gifted Alcatel *one touch* mobile phone! My grandchildren sport the
latest i phones but this does all I need and has a good battery
performance.

However, I have managed to corrupt the contact number for
sending/replying to SMS messages.
A *factory reset* has not fixed this.

I don't have a manual and the one offered on-line does not help.

Any suggestions?

Who is your service provider? Most have the required api settings available
on line for you to manually enter.


Vodafone!
api settings?
Display of ignorance level:-(


If its not a smart phone it probably doesnt have api settings. ;-)

This might help.


How do I set up text messages?
Share this answer
Text messaging should be ready to go as soon as your phone's connected. If
it doesn't work straight away, there are two settings to check:

Message centre number - +447785016005
Message format - this should be set to text
You can test it by sending a text to 9770. We'll text you back if it's
working.


Hooray!

Fixed.

Thanks Tim and others who showed interest:-)

By some magic I had deleted the 5 from the message centre number!

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On 25/10/2019 12:10:03, whisky-dave wrote:
On Friday, 25 October 2019 10:46:18 UTC+1, Tim Lamb wrote:
One for the cognoscenti...

Now that the 21st. century is well established I have down graded to a
gifted Alcatel *one touch* mobile phone! My grandchildren sport the
latest i phones but this does all I need and has a good battery
performance.

However, I have managed to corrupt the contact number for
sending/replying to SMS messages.
A *factory reset* has not fixed this.

I don't have a manual and the one offered on-line does not help.

Any suggestions?


Get a proper smartphone like an iPhone ;-)


Smart iPhone is an oxymoron
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Tim Lamb wrote:

Hooray!

Fixed.

Thanks Tim and others who showed interest:-)

By some magic I had deleted the 5 from the message centre number!


If it makes you feel any better, I went into my cheapo Nokias message
settings to look at the message centre number. Whilst trying to exit the
menu I ended up deleting the number instead. Took me a few moments to
workout how to exit without saving. ;-)

Tim

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On 25/10/2019 12:10:03, whisky-dave wrote:
On Friday, 25 October 2019 10:46:18 UTC+1, Tim Lamb wrote:
One for the cognoscenti...

Now that the 21st. century is well established I have down graded to a
gifted Alcatel *one touch* mobile phone! My grandchildren sport the
latest i phones but this does all I need and has a good battery
performance.

However, I have managed to corrupt the contact number for
sending/replying to SMS messages.
A *factory reset* has not fixed this.

I don't have a manual and the one offered on-line does not help.

Any suggestions?

Get a proper smartphone like an iPhone ;-)


Smart iPhone is an oxymoron


My wife has a family cast off and expects me to be able to help her use
it!
I have to admit it did once help us by providing a route from Dulwich
station to a pub where a family celebration was in progress. Most of the
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On Fri, 25 Oct 2019 10:44:54 +0000 (UTC), Brian Reay wrote:

I was always under the impression that the number you send to is

the
number you would call.


From the user point of view yes.

if anything else goes on in between the customer should not be

able to
change it, its part of the sim.


All texts go via your service providers message centre, this has a
number that varies by service provider and occasionally tarrif from a
given SP. It's normally set by the SP when you register the SIM but
can be chnaged manually

I note with interest that the old 2g systems are being turned off

soon,

Where did you here 2G was being turned off?


I saw a recent article, possibly on The Register.

It is still widely used by, for example, trackers and similar simple
systems using the mobile phone network.


Aye, the networks proposing to shut down 2G (to free up the spectrum
for 4G etc) has put a cat or three amongst the pigeons. What do Smart
Meters use in the southern half(*) of the country? I know it's one of
the mobile networks but not sure which one or wich technology.

(*) The northern half uses something else operated by Arqiva.

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On 25/10/2019 14:11:32, Tim Lamb wrote:
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On 25/10/2019 12:10:03, whisky-dave wrote:
On Friday, 25 October 2019 10:46:18 UTC+1, Tim LambÂ* wrote:
One for the cognoscenti...

Now that the 21st. century is well established I have down graded to a
giftedÂ* Alcatel *one touch* mobile phone! My grandchildren sport the
latest i phones but this does all I need and has a good battery
performance.

However, I have managed to corrupt the contact number for
sending/replying to SMS messages.
A *factory reset* has not fixed this.

I don't have a manual and the one offered on-line does not help.

Any suggestions?
Â*Get a proper smartphone like an iPhone ;-)


Smart iPhone is an oxymoron


My wife has a family cast off and expects me to be able to help her use it!
I have to admit it did once help us by providing a route from Dulwich
station to a pub where a family celebration was in progress. Most of the
apps. are wasted on us geriatrics.


I confess to be a little anti-iPhone and Apple, for the way you are tied
into their business model where anything to do with Apple is quadruple
the cost when compared to an Android phone. In short a rip-off.

The corollary to my argument is that most things work seamlessly apart
from their battery scam.


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On 25/10/2019 14:20, Dave Liquorice wrote:

All texts go via your service providers message centre, this has a
number that varies by service provider and occasionally tarrif from a
given SP. It's normally set by the SP when you register the SIM but
can be chnaged manually

All telephone calls have to go via your mobile provider, so why do text
messages need a special message centre with a special number?

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"Tim Lamb" wrote in message
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One for the cognoscenti...

Now that the 21st. century is well established I have down graded to a
gifted Alcatel *one touch* mobile phone! My grandchildren sport the
latest i phones but this does all I need and has a good battery
performance.


However, I have managed to corrupt the contact number for sending/replying
to SMS messages.


That shouldn't be possible that number is determined by the SIM.

Unless you mean something else that the number the SMS is
sent to so you can see it when someone sense you an SMS.

A *factory reset* has not fixed this.


I don't have a manual and the one offered on-line does not help.


Any suggestions?


See what happens with a different SIM.



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See what happens with a different SIM.


Oh, ****! And this innocent little thread was Rodent-free, so far! tsk

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"Tim Lamb" wrote in message
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On 25/10/2019 12:10:03, whisky-dave wrote:
On Friday, 25 October 2019 10:46:18 UTC+1, Tim Lamb wrote:
One for the cognoscenti...

Now that the 21st. century is well established I have down graded to a
gifted Alcatel *one touch* mobile phone! My grandchildren sport the
latest i phones but this does all I need and has a good battery
performance.

However, I have managed to corrupt the contact number for
sending/replying to SMS messages.
A *factory reset* has not fixed this.

I don't have a manual and the one offered on-line does not help.

Any suggestions?
Get a proper smartphone like an iPhone ;-)


Smart iPhone is an oxymoron


My wife has a family cast off and expects me to be able to help her use
it!
I have to admit it did once help us by providing a route from Dulwich
station to a pub where a family celebration was in progress. Most of the
apps. are wasted on us geriatrics.


Only the brain dead ones.

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On 25/10/2019 12:10:03, whisky-dave wrote:
On Friday, 25 October 2019 10:46:18 UTC+1, Tim Lamb wrote:
One for the cognoscenti...

Now that the 21st. century is well established I have down graded to a
gifted Alcatel *one touch* mobile phone! My grandchildren sport the
latest i phones but this does all I need and has a good battery
performance.

However, I have managed to corrupt the contact number for
sending/replying to SMS messages.
A *factory reset* has not fixed this.

I don't have a manual and the one offered on-line does not help.

Any suggestions?
Get a proper smartphone like an iPhone ;-)

Smart iPhone is an oxymoron


My wife has a family cast off and expects me to be able to help her use
it!
I have to admit it did once help us by providing a route from Dulwich
station to a pub where a family celebration was in progress. Most of the
apps. are wasted on us geriatrics.


I confess to be a little anti-iPhone and Apple, for the way you are tied
into their business model where anything to do with Apple is quadruple the
cost when compared to an Android phone. In short a rip-off.


Thats bull****. The high end smartphones are
similarly priced to Samsung's equivalent phone.
Same with the google pixel smartphones.

And apple always has very big discounted iphones
which havent been the latest for quite a while but
which still are very good performers, currently the 6S.

The corollary to my argument is that most things work seamlessly


And given the reduced capability of the phone
to be reconfigured in weird ways. its much easier
to help a technoklutz to do that they want to do
with an iphone than with most androids. Some
have really weird ways of even doing something
as basic as adding a new contact.

apart from their battery scam.


It isnt a scam, most high end smartphones now
dont have a user replaceable battery and iphones
generally have quite noticeably better talk time than
the equivalent Samsungs too. My mate has the
latest but one samsung and cant leave the phone
connected to mine during the couple of houses of
the garage sale run because that flattens his battery.
Doesnt flatten my iphone.

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No, but even my old nokia had a copy data from sim function and also a
copy to sim function and I never recall either of these making me loose
texts.


That’s because your posts have always
been very loose, very close to diarrhea. |-(

And is it wise to admit so publicly that
you have always been a couch potato ?

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On Friday, 25 October 2019 10:46:18 UTC+1, Tim Lamb wrote:
One for the cognoscenti...

Now that the 21st. century is well established I have down graded to a
gifted Alcatel *one touch* mobile phone! My grandchildren sport the
latest i phones but this does all I need and has a good battery
performance.

However, I have managed to corrupt the contact number for
sending/replying to SMS messages.
A *factory reset* has not fixed this.

I don't have a manual and the one offered on-line does not help.

Any suggestions?


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That¢s bull****.


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I have to admit it did once help us by providing a route from Dulwich
station to a pub where a family celebration was in progress. Most of the
apps. are wasted on us geriatrics.


Only the brain dead ones.


You see, you cantankerious sociopath, OTHER elderly people are NOT as
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That¢s because your posts have always
been very loose, very close to diarrhea. |-(

And is it wise to admit so publicly that
you have always been a couch potato ?


Is it wise for you to behave in a manner that you will lose every friend or
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"Tim Lamb" wrote in message
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One for the cognoscenti...

Now that the 21st. century is well established I have down graded to a
gifted Alcatel *one touch* mobile phone! My grandchildren sport the
latest i phones but this does all I need and has a good battery
performance.


However, I have managed to corrupt the contact number for
sending/replying to SMS messages.


That shouldn't be possible that number is determined by the SIM.


Many phones (if not all) allow you to change what's on the SIM for the
message centre. Some providers have different message centres for
different customers.



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"Tim Lamb" wrote in message
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One for the cognoscenti...

Now that the 21st. century is well established I have down graded to a
gifted Alcatel *one touch* mobile phone! My grandchildren sport the
latest i phones but this does all I need and has a good battery
performance.


However, I have managed to corrupt the contact number for
sending/replying to SMS messages.


That shouldn't be possible that number is determined by the SIM.


Many phones (if not all) allow you to change what's on the SIM for the
message centre. Some providers have different message centres for
different customers.


Bob, youre replying to our resident troll, Rod. Hes nym-shifted again.

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Bob Eager wrote:
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"Tim Lamb" wrote in message
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One for the cognoscenti...

Now that the 21st. century is well established I have down graded to
a gifted Alcatel *one touch* mobile phone! My grandchildren sport
the latest i phones but this does all I need and has a good battery
performance.

However, I have managed to corrupt the contact number for
sending/replying to SMS messages.

That shouldn't be possible that number is determined by the SIM.


Many phones (if not all) allow you to change what's on the SIM for the
message centre. Some providers have different message centres for
different customers.


Bob, youre replying to our resident troll, Rod. Hes nym-shifted again.

Tim


Oh God, thanks. Killfiled.



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I have never had to do that, as it was always part of the sim, surely?


It's often sent out in a provisioning message when you activate a new SIM.
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