Obviously I put them straight on to try them.

Wow.

There is some wobbly stairs effect but it is not that bad. Certainly
nothing to worry about.

Using the computer seems odd. Looking down at the keyboard and then
straight up at the screen I very clear picture with both. If the monitor
is closer than arms length then that does not work.

I am however not going to wear them for the rest of the day. I might
wear them to watch the match for a couple of hours tonight but I do not
intend to walk or drive in them.

--
Adam

ARW wrote:

I am however not going to wear them for the rest of the day. I might
wear them to watch the match for a couple of hours tonight but I do not
intend to walk or drive in them.

When I first got varifocals I got a splitting headache all weekend, now
my brain can switch between VF and a single vision 'backup' pair in
about 30 minutes ...

On Wednesday, 11 July 2018 16:23:47 UTC+1, ARW wrote:
Obviously I put them straight on to try them.

Wow.

There is some wobbly stairs effect but it is not that bad. Certainly
nothing to worry about.

Using the computer seems odd. Looking down at the keyboard and then
straight up at the screen I very clear picture with both. If the monitor
is closer than arms length then that does not work.

I am however not going to wear them for the rest of the day. I might
wear them to watch the match for a couple of hours tonight but I do not
intend to walk or drive in them.

They'll probbaly break walking over them or driving over them ;-)

They are meant to go over your head and the eyes look through them.

yes a gramma cheque ;-)



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Huge wrote:
I wouldn't, to start with. But I got used to mine within 24 hrs. The
only proviso is you might find them a PITA for working above your head,
because the "close-up" section is at the bottom of the lens, so you need
to tip your head back a long way. I keep meaning to get some cheap
single-vision glasses for, e.g., wiring up ceiling roses.

That's the beauty of contact lenses. They correct your distant vision to
normal so any old 'ready reads' are fine. Although you may well want more
than one power. Or rather may as you get older. ;-)

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On 7/11/2018 5:47 PM, Huge wrote:
On 2018-07-11, ARW wrote:
Obviously I put them straight on to try them.

Wow.

There is some wobbly stairs effect but it is not that bad. Certainly
nothing to worry about.

Using the computer seems odd. Looking down at the keyboard and then
straight up at the screen I very clear picture with both. If the monitor
is closer than arms length then that does not work.

I am however not going to wear them for the rest of the day. I might
wear them to watch the match for a couple of hours tonight but I do not
intend to walk or drive in them.

I wouldn't, to start with. But I got used to mine within 24 hrs. The only
proviso is you might find them a PITA for working above your head, because
the "close-up" section is at the bottom of the lens, so you need to tip
your head back a long way. I keep meaning to get some cheap single-vision
glasses for, e.g., wiring up ceiling roses.

I know a car mechanic who had a pair made with upside-down lenses, for
when he's working under cars. It appears to work well.

"ARW" wrote in message
...
Obviously I put them straight on to try them.

Wow.

There is some wobbly stairs effect but it is not that bad. Certainly
nothing to worry about.

Using the computer seems odd. Looking down at the keyboard and then
straight up at the screen I very clear picture with both. If the monitor
is closer than arms length then that does not work.

I am however not going to wear them for the rest of the day. I might wear
them to watch the match for a couple of hours tonight but I do not intend
to walk or drive in them.

I wouldnt either. You're sposed to walk and drive while wearing them,
stupid.

Dave Plowman wrote:

That's the beauty of contact lenses.

I agree in terms of giving excellent width of vision, but having tried
rigid gas permeable and daily soft ones several times, they always seem
to 'droop' and need frequent blinking to keep them central on my eyeball.

The days of smokey pubs were pretty bad for the RGP ones ...

On 11/07/2018 16:23, ARW wrote:
Obviously I put them straight on to try them.

Wow.

There is some wobbly stairs effect but it is not that bad. Certainly
nothing to worry about.

Using the computer seems odd. Looking down at the keyboard and then
straight up at the screen I very clear picture with both. If the monitor
is closer than arms length then that does not work.

I am however not going to wear them for the rest of the day. I might
wear them to watch the match for a couple of hours tonight but I do not
intend to walk or drive in them.


When I first had varifocals I found it difficult to drive my car through
narrow gaps so I did not wear them for driving. I went on a a holiday in
the USA and there I had to wear them so that I could read my GPS and see
where the car was going. The roads there are generally wider so I was
not having to position the car very precisely. However I did get used
to driving with varifocals and have used them ever since.


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On 11/07/2018 16:23, ARW wrote:
Obviously I put them straight on to try them.

Wow.

There is some wobbly stairs effect but it is not that bad. Certainly
nothing to worry about.

Using the computer seems odd. Looking down at the keyboard and then
straight up at the screen I very clear picture with both. If the monitor
is closer than arms length then that does not work.

I am however not going to wear them for the rest of the day. I might wear
them to watch the match for a couple of hours tonight but I do not intend
to walk or drive in them.


When I first had varifocals I found it difficult to drive my car through
narrow gaps so I did not wear them for driving. I went on a a holiday in
the USA and there I had to wear them so that I could read my GPS

I never read mine, just listen to the turn by turn directions.

and see where the car was going. The roads there are generally wider so I
was not having to position the car very precisely. However I did get used
to driving with varifocals and have used them ever since.

ARW wrote:

I might wear them to watch the match for a couple of hours tonight

I suppose for once they don't need to sack the manager ...

On 11/07/18 16:23, ARW wrote:
Obviously I put them straight on to try them.

Wow.

There is some wobbly stairs effect but it is not that bad. Certainly
nothing to worry about.

Be careful running down stairs. You'll find the steps looking a bit blurry.

And at a place of relief, if you have to bend your head sharply to see
little Johnie, the beer belly might get in the way with the consequences
of ...


Using the computer seems odd. Looking down at the keyboard and then
straight up at the screen I very clear picture with both. If the monitor
is closer than arms length then that does not work.

I am however not going to wear them for the rest of the day. I might
wear them to watch the match for a couple of hours tonight but I do not
intend to walk or drive in them.


But, you'll end up doing all of those, so persevere! If you do back to
non-varifocals your brain will have to unlearn all the corrections the
new fangled glasses have been programming.

For the first couple of days, I'd move my head side to side looking down
and sea sickness would take a hold, especially in an office where there
was a long length of brightly lit white desk space.

Thankfully that effect has ceased, when I realise I should look straight
ahead. I avoid looking down, unless I'm reading a book or newspaper.

Huge mentions about ceiling work being a problem. IME it is.

As a (daft) alternative there are these things...
https://www.eyejusters.com/glasses/

My varifocals have a wide undistorted field of view left and right. I
understand not all are made like that.

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ARW Wrote in message:
Obviously I put them straight on to try them.

Wow.

There is some wobbly stairs effect but it is not that bad. Certainly
nothing to worry about.

Using the computer seems odd. Looking down at the keyboard and then
straight up at the screen I very clear picture with both. If the monitor
is closer than arms length then that does not work.

I am however not going to wear them for the rest of the day. I might
wear them to watch the match for a couple of hours tonight but I do not
intend to walk or drive in them.

--
Adam


As my longer range sight is ok, I have gone for two pairs of fixed
glasses. One has a focal length around 12" set for reading and
the other 20" for monitor use.

The latter are worn 95% of the time, so swapping isn't a great problem.

From the price my wife paid for varifocals, it doesn't seem more
expensive to have job specific pairs.

Phil

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On 11/07/2018 16:23, ARW wrote:
Obviously I put them straight on to try them.

Wow.

There is some wobbly stairs effect but it is not that bad. Certainly
nothing to worry about.

Using the computer seems odd. Looking down at the keyboard and then
straight up at the screen I very clear picture with both. If the monitor
is closer than arms length then that does not work.

I am however not going to wear them for the rest of the day. I might
wear them to watch the match for a couple of hours tonight but I do not
intend to walk or drive in them.

I found I adjusted to mine very quickly... even driving I found quite
nice because it put the instrument panel into the middle focus zone of
the lenses.

The two things they are crap at is watching TV in bed, and wiring light
fittings!



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On 11/07/2018 19:25, Huge wrote:
On 2018-07-11, S Viemeister wrote:
On 7/11/2018 5:47 PM, Huge wrote:
On 2018-07-11, ARW wrote:
Obviously I put them straight on to try them.

Wow.

There is some wobbly stairs effect but it is not that bad. Certainly
nothing to worry about.

Using the computer seems odd. Looking down at the keyboard and then
straight up at the screen I very clear picture with both. If the monitor
is closer than arms length then that does not work.

I am however not going to wear them for the rest of the day. I might
wear them to watch the match for a couple of hours tonight but I do not
intend to walk or drive in them.

I wouldn't, to start with. But I got used to mine within 24 hrs. The only
proviso is you might find them a PITA for working above your head, because
the "close-up" section is at the bottom of the lens, so you need to tip
your head back a long way. I keep meaning to get some cheap single-vision
glasses for, e.g., wiring up ceiling roses.

I know a car mechanic who had a pair made with upside-down lenses, for
when he's working under cars. It appears to work well.

See also Dennis Taylor.

I have a pair of those - I realised that I could not see what was going
on at the end of the table, which made potting the buggers quite hard.

With the glasses however I can now report that not being able to see was
only the tip of the iceberg when it comes to the list of reasons for my
outstanding lack of snooker talent!


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In article ,
Andy Burns wrote:
Dave Plowman wrote:

That's the beauty of contact lenses.

I agree in terms of giving excellent width of vision, but having tried
rigid gas permeable and daily soft ones several times, they always seem
to 'droop' and need frequent blinking to keep them central on my eyeball.

If a gas permeable type 'droops' it's down to poor design. Something to do
with the curvature on the inside, IIRC.

The days of smokey pubs were pretty bad for the RGP ones ...

Never gave me a problem. Been wearing hard lenses since 1970.

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Dave Plowman London SW
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On 11/07/2018 16:23, ARW wrote:
Obviously I put them straight on to try them.

Wow.

There is some wobbly stairs effect but it is not that bad. Certainly
nothing to worry about.

Using the computer seems odd. Looking down at the keyboard and then
straight up at the screen I very clear picture with both. If the monitor
is closer than arms length then that does not work.

I am however not going to wear them for the rest of the day. I might
wear them to watch the match for a couple of hours tonight but I do not
intend to walk or drive in them.

I drove home from the opticians after having them. It was quite a
revelation how clear the instrument panel was :-). I'd put off having
them for a couple of years because of the wobbly stairs effect, but
never has a probelm in the end.

Dave Plowman wrote:

Andy Burns wrote:

having tried rigid gas permeable and daily soft ones several times,
they always seem to 'droop' and need frequent blinking to keep them
central on my eyeball.

If a gas permeable type 'droops' it's down to poor design. Something to do
with the curvature on the inside, IIRC.

Yes optician tried different 'base curve' and another brand with
different curves available, unfortunately they all had the same issue
for me.

On 11/07/2018 23:54, John Rumm wrote:
On 11/07/2018 16:23, ARW wrote:
Obviously I put them straight on to try them.

Wow.

There is some wobbly stairs effect but it is not that bad. Certainly
nothing to worry about.

Using the computer seems odd. Looking down at the keyboard and then
straight up at the screen I very clear picture with both. If the
monitor is closer than arms length then that does not work.

I am however not going to wear them for the rest of the day. I might
wear them to watch the match for a couple of hours tonight but I do
not intend to walk or drive in them.

I found I adjusted to mine very quickly... even driving I found quite
nice because it put the instrument panel into the middle focus zone of
the lenses.

The two things they are crap at is watching TV in bed, and wiring light
fittings!



+1 (or +3, if you like)

Most socket rewiring is a "glasses off" job these days.

On Wed, 11 Jul 2018 22:57:01 +0100, Adrian Caspersz wrote:

As a (daft) alternative there are these things...
https://www.eyejusters.com/glasses/

I'll raise you these:

https://cu-belayglasses.com/product/...classic-g-4-0/

Made for overhead work.

(AIUI, moving ones head while wearing these can cause seasickness -- considering
the difference in visual and "balance" input, possibly understandable...)


Thomas Prufer

On 12/07/2018 09:02, newshound wrote:
On 11/07/2018 23:54, John Rumm wrote:
On 11/07/2018 16:23, ARW wrote:
Obviously I put them straight on to try them.

Wow.

There is some wobbly stairs effect but it is not that bad. Certainly
nothing to worry about.

Using the computer seems odd. Looking down at the keyboard and then
straight up at the screen I very clear picture with both. If the
monitor is closer than arms length then that does not work.

I am however not going to wear them for the rest of the day. I might
wear them to watch the match for a couple of hours tonight but I do
not intend to walk or drive in them.

I found I adjusted to mine very quickly... even driving I found quite
nice because it put the instrument panel into the middle focus zone of
the lenses.

The two things they are crap at is watching TV in bed, and wiring
light fittings!



+1 (or +3, if you like)

Most socket rewiring is a "glasses off" job these days.

Alas no use for me (long sighted + astigmatism)

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In article ,
John Rumm wrote:
Most socket rewiring is a "glasses off" job these days.

Alas no use for me (long sighted + astigmatism)

Same here. Which is why rigid contact lenses work so well (better with
some types of astigmatism)

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Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

On 11/07/2018 16:23, ARW wrote:
Obviously I put them straight on to try them.

Wow.

There is some wobbly stairs effect but it is not that bad. Certainly
nothing to worry about.

Using the computer seems odd. Looking down at the keyboard and then
straight up at the screen I very clear picture with both. If the monitor
is closer than arms length then that does not work.

I am however not going to wear them for the rest of the day. I might
wear them to watch the match for a couple of hours tonight but I do not
intend to walk or drive in them.


Do you wear them upside down to make wiring up a down-lighter more
restful on your neck ?.

On 11/07/2018 16:23, ARW wrote:
Obviously I put them straight on to try them.

Wow.

There is some wobbly stairs effect but it is not that bad. Certainly
nothing to worry about.

Using the computer seems odd. Looking down at the keyboard and then
straight up at the screen I very clear picture with both. If the monitor
is closer than arms length then that does not work.

I am however not going to wear them for the rest of the day. I might
wear them to watch the match for a couple of hours tonight but I do not
intend to walk or drive in them.


You will have problems wiring ceiling roses. I know I do.

These made it a lot easier with single focus main glasses.

They do different powers, buy the ones on your varifocal prescription.

On 11/07/2018 18:44, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Huge wrote:
I wouldn't, to start with. But I got used to mine within 24 hrs. The
only proviso is you might find them a PITA for working above your head,
because the "close-up" section is at the bottom of the lens, so you need
to tip your head back a long way. I keep meaning to get some cheap
single-vision glasses for, e.g., wiring up ceiling roses.

That's the beauty of contact lenses. They correct your distant vision to
normal so any old 'ready reads' are fine. Although you may well want more
than one power. Or rather may as you get older. ;-)


You can get "varifocal" contact lenses, they have rings with different
powers around them. They bring close and distant to focus but they do
lower contrast. There must be a compromise as in bright light there are
less rings to use but there is increased DOF too.

On 12/07/2018 08:51, Andy Burns wrote:
Dave Plowman wrote:

Andy Burns wrote:

having tried rigid gas permeable and daily soft ones several times,
they always seem to 'droop' and need frequent blinking to keep them
central on my eyeball.

If a gas permeable type 'droops' it's down to poor design. Something
to do
with the curvature on the inside, IIRC.

Yes optician tried different 'base curve' and another brand with
different curves available, unfortunately they all had the same issue
for me.

Your eyes are too spherical?

On 11/07/2018 19:25, Huge wrote:

I know a car mechanic who had a pair made with upside-down lenses, for
when he's working under cars. It appears to work well.

See also Dennis Taylor.



I don't think he did, I think the frames were inverted in some way, you
still want the near bit at the bottom when playing snooker.

On 12/07/2018 17:41, dennis@home wrote:
On 11/07/2018 16:23, ARW wrote:
Obviously I put them straight on to try them.

Wow.

There is some wobbly stairs effect but it is not that bad. Certainly
nothing to worry about.

Using the computer seems odd. Looking down at the keyboard and then
straight up at the screen I very clear picture with both. If the
monitor is closer than arms length then that does not work.

I am however not going to wear them for the rest of the day. I might
wear them to watch the match for a couple of hours tonight but I do
not intend to walk or drive in them.


You will have problems wiring ceiling roses. I know I do.

These made it a lot easier with single focus main glasses.

They do different powers, buy the ones on your varifocal prescription.



I can have another pair made up if needed.

It's a suck it and see. I only did 20 minutes of work today and that was
at desk height - the rest of the time was spent waiting to turn the
power off etc. I did have a nice chat with the guy that made the lenses
when I got back from work.

So I have 2 pairs of varifocals, one for work and one for better wear
AKA a spare for when I break the work ones and a pair of polarised sun
glasses for that are single distant lens.

I drove to work with the varifocals on and back with the sunglasses on.
A good 90 minutes each way. I was OK with either.



--
Adam

In article ,
dennis@home wrote:
On 11/07/2018 18:44, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Huge wrote:
I wouldn't, to start with. But I got used to mine within 24 hrs. The
only proviso is you might find them a PITA for working above your
head, because the "close-up" section is at the bottom of the lens, so
you need to tip your head back a long way. I keep meaning to get some
cheap single-vision glasses for, e.g., wiring up ceiling roses.

That's the beauty of contact lenses. They correct your distant vision
to normal so any old 'ready reads' are fine. Although you may well
want more than one power. Or rather may as you get older. ;-)


You can get "varifocal" contact lenses, they have rings with different
powers around them. They bring close and distant to focus but they do
lower contrast. There must be a compromise as in bright light there are
less rings to use but there is increased DOF too.

I *really* don't see the point in degrading the main vision for the sake
of possible convenience.

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Dave Plowman London SW
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On 12/07/2018 10:25, John Rumm wrote:
8

Most socket rewiring is a "glasses off" job these days.

Alas no use for me (long sighted + astigmatism)


+1

On 12/07/2018 11:23, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
John Rumm wrote:
Most socket rewiring is a "glasses off" job these days.

Alas no use for me (long sighted + astigmatism)

Same here. Which is why rigid contact lenses work so well (better with
some types of astigmatism)


I can get contact lenses for mine but the optician reckons they will
move a few degrees every time I blink and that I am very sensitive to a
few degrees.

On 12/07/2018 17:58, ARW wrote:
On 12/07/2018 17:41, dennis@home wrote:
On 11/07/2018 16:23, ARW wrote:
Obviously I put them straight on to try them.

Wow.

There is some wobbly stairs effect but it is not that bad. Certainly
nothing to worry about.

Using the computer seems odd. Looking down at the keyboard and then
straight up at the screen I very clear picture with both. If the
monitor is closer than arms length then that does not work.

I am however not going to wear them for the rest of the day. I might
wear them to watch the match for a couple of hours tonight but I do
not intend to walk or drive in them.


You will have problems wiring ceiling roses. I know I do.

These made it a lot easier with single focus main glasses.

They do different powers, buy the ones on your varifocal prescription.



I can have another pair made up if needed.

It's a suck it and see. I only did 20 minutes of work today and that was
at desk height - the rest of the time was spent waiting to turn the
power off etc. I did have a nice chat with the guy that made the lenses
when I got back from work.

So I have 2 pairs of varifocals, one for work and one for better wear
AKA a spare for when I break the work ones and a pair of polarised sun
glasses for that are single distant lens.

I drove to work with the varifocals on and back with the sunglasses on.
A good 90 minutes each way. I was OK with either.




Looks like I forgot the link.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Daiso-Japan...eading+glasses

On 12/07/2018 17:48, dennis@home wrote:
On 11/07/2018 19:25, Huge wrote:

I know a car mechanic who had a pair made with upside-down lenses, for
when he's working under cars. It appears to work well.

See also Dennis Taylor.



I don't think he did, I think the frames were inverted in some way, you
still want the near bit at the bottom when playing snooker.

My snooker glasses are to all intents just normal fixed focus glasses
but with no top to the frame so you can use all of the height of the
lens blank rather than needing to cut it down to fit the frame.


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On 12/07/2018 20:15, John Rumm wrote:
On 12/07/2018 17:48, dennis@home wrote:
On 11/07/2018 19:25, Huge wrote:

I know a car mechanic who had a pair made with upside-down lenses, for
when he's working under cars. It appears to work well.

See also Dennis Taylor.



I don't think he did, I think the frames were inverted in some way,
you still want the near bit at the bottom when playing snooker.

My snooker glasses are to all intents just normal fixed focus glasses
but with no top to the frame so you can use all of the height of the
lens blank rather than needing to cut it down to fit the frame.



Yes, putting varifocal lenses upside down for snooker would be daft.
Hugely daft.

Putting a distance zone on the bottom then the reading zone and then the
middle distance at the top might make sense for some people, but not
just upside down.

It would be different for bifocals.

On 11/07/2018 22:57, Adrian Caspersz wrote:
My varifocals have a wide undistorted field of view left and right. I
understand not all are made like that.

Indeed not. I tried a pair. I have two screens on my computer at work,
and looking anywhere other than straight ahead the distortion was
intolerable. I had to turn my head whenever I wanted to look at
something on the other screen, not just my eyes.

What kind of lenses do you have?

Andy

On 11/07/2018 19:47, Michael Chare wrote:
On 11/07/2018 16:23, ARW wrote:
Obviously I put them straight on to try them.

Wow.

There is some wobbly stairs effect but it is not that bad. Certainly
nothing to worry about.

Using the computer seems odd. Looking down at the keyboard and then
straight up at the screen I very clear picture with both. If the
monitor is closer than arms length then that does not work.

I am however not going to wear them for the rest of the day. I might
wear them to watch the match for a couple of hours tonight but I do
not intend to walk or drive in them.


When I first had varifocals I found it difficult to drive my car through
narrow gaps so I did not wear them for driving. I went on a a holiday in
the USA and there I had to wear them so that I could read my GPS and see
where the car was going. The roads there are generally wider so I was
not having to position the car very precisely.Â* However I did get used
to driving with varifocals and have used them ever since.

I had no problems with mine, other then the optician getting the
measurements wrong and me having to drive with my head angled lower than
I was comfortable with. Unfortunately they'd replaced a pair I'd lost
and so I had to put up with them on holiday, until they could be
replaced after my return.

SteveW

In article ,
dennis@home wrote:
On 12/07/2018 11:23, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
John Rumm wrote:
Most socket rewiring is a "glasses off" job these days.

Alas no use for me (long sighted + astigmatism)

Same here. Which is why rigid contact lenses work so well (better with
some types of astigmatism)


I can get contact lenses for mine but the optician reckons they will
move a few degrees every time I blink and that I am very sensitive to a
few degrees.

As I said it depends on the type of astigmatism. Most of mine is on the
front part of the cornea. So a rigid contact lens sorts that as it becomes
an extension of the cornea. If the astigmatism is on the rear of the
cornea you need a special lens to correct that. And keeping that aligned
perfectly at all times isn't easy.

It's why I've never bothered with soft lenses.

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In article ,
John Rumm wrote:
I found I adjusted to mine very quickly... even driving I found quite
nice because it put the instrument panel into the middle focus zone of
the lenses.

That's odd. Even at my advanced age, with my sight corrected for distance,
I have no trouble reading the car instruments. But do use specs at the
computer and reading.

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On 13/07/2018 00:14, Steve Walker wrote:
On 11/07/2018 19:47, Michael Chare wrote:
On 11/07/2018 16:23, ARW wrote:
Obviously I put them straight on to try them.

Wow.

There is some wobbly stairs effect but it is not that bad. Certainly
nothing to worry about.

Using the computer seems odd. Looking down at the keyboard and then
straight up at the screen I very clear picture with both. If the
monitor is closer than arms length then that does not work.

I am however not going to wear them for the rest of the day. I might
wear them to watch the match for a couple of hours tonight but I do
not intend to walk or drive in them.


When I first had varifocals I found it difficult to drive my car
through narrow gaps so I did not wear them for driving. I went on a a
holiday in the USA and there I had to wear them so that I could read
my GPS and see where the car was going. The roads there are generally
wider so I was not having to position the car very precisely.Â* However
I did get used to driving with varifocals and have used them ever since.

I had no problems with mine, other then the optician getting the
measurements wrong and me having to drive with my head angled lower than
I was comfortable with. Unfortunately they'd replaced a pair I'd lost
and so I had to put up with them on holiday, until they could be
replaced after my return.

SteveW

I adapted to them immediately, although for very close/fine work I find
removing them best (more for comfort/head position).

I've worn glasses since my teens, with a brief spell of wearing (soft)
contact lenses. I've considered laser treatment- not out of vanity- even
after near on 50 years I still find glasses a faff, less so than contact
lenses, I could do without.



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On 13/07/2018 01:04, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
John Rumm wrote:
I found I adjusted to mine very quickly... even driving I found quite
nice because it put the instrument panel into the middle focus zone of
the lenses.

That's odd. Even at my advanced age, with my sight corrected for distance,
I have no trouble reading the car instruments. But do use specs at the
computer and reading.

At your age your accommodation should be 0.5 to 2.0 dioptre.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accommodation_(eye)

That does suggest if your glasses are correct for long distance then you
should be able to see anything between 2.0m and 0.5m depending on your
residual accommodation.

In article ,
Fredxx wrote:
On 13/07/2018 01:04, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
John Rumm wrote:
I found I adjusted to mine very quickly... even driving I found quite
nice because it put the instrument panel into the middle focus zone of
the lenses.

That's odd. Even at my advanced age, with my sight corrected for distance,
I have no trouble reading the car instruments. But do use specs at the
computer and reading.

At your age your accommodation should be 0.5 to 2.0 dioptre.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accommodation_(eye)

That does suggest if your glasses are correct for long distance then you
should be able to see anything between 2.0m and 0.5m depending on your
residual accommodation.

Thing is, of course many are slightly 'long sighted' And may get away with
not having correction for distance. But this does mean they'll have more
trouble reading things like the car instruments than if corrected for
distance. Many do 'get away' with not wearing specs for just getting
around.

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