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A neighbouring council has wheelie bins that look like this, but I've never seen them anywhere else. What is the hood for?
https://www.dropbox.com/s/qpzkw50rday7lsz/bin.jpg?dl=0

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On 20/06/16 18:25, James Wilkinson wrote:
A neighbouring council has wheelie bins that look like this, but I've
never seen them anywhere else. What is the hood for?
https://www.dropbox.com/s/qpzkw50rday7lsz/bin.jpg?dl=0

Its a nesting box for the lesser spotted Romanian immigrant.


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On 20/06/16 18:25, James Wilkinson wrote:
A neighbouring council has wheelie bins that look like this, but I've
never seen them anywhere else. What is the hood for?
https://www.dropbox.com/s/qpzkw50rday7lsz/bin.jpg?dl=0

Its a nesting box for the lesser spotted Romanian immigrant.


At least Romanians do work and don't set explosives.

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What is the hood for?


The circular black hole is for rubble and plasterboard.

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What is the hood for?


The circular black hole is for rubble and plasterboard.


I wouldn't put it beyond a council to do something like that.

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The circular black hole is for rubble and plasterboard.


Why are you feeding this troll?
You must know that it's Hucker.


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What is the hood for?


The circular black hole is for rubble and plasterboard.


Why are you feeding this troll?
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James Wilkinson wrote:
A neighbouring council has wheelie bins that look like this, but I've
never seen them anywhere else. What is the hood for?
https://www.dropbox.com/s/qpzkw50rday7lsz/bin.jpg?dl=0


It's to enable the bin to be picked up from the roadside completely
mechanically (if it's close enough to the road) without manual
intervention. The lorry just pulls up alongside and a mechanical arm
controlled from the cab does all the work.

The bigger "canopy" makes alignment less critical.

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James Wilkinson wrote:
A neighbouring council has wheelie bins that look like this, but I've
never seen them anywhere else. What is the hood for?
https://www.dropbox.com/s/qpzkw50rday7lsz/bin.jpg?dl=0


It's to enable the bin to be picked up from the roadside completely
mechanically (if it's close enough to the road) without manual
intervention. The lorry just pulls up alongside and a mechanical arm
controlled from the cab does all the work.

The bigger "canopy" makes alignment less critical.


Ahhh, I didn't think of that as I got mixed up and thought it wasn't on the truck side of the bin. The binmen don't wheel mine to the lorry and hook the handles on, the other side gets hooked on.

So I guess people not bothering to put the bins the right way round (like my neighbour) wouldn't get it collected at all. Round here they're wheeled to the lorry by the binmen and they don't mind the odd one facing wrongly.

I guess the automated system would fall down in most places with parked cars, which is why I've only ever seen it in one council area.

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A neighbouring council has wheelie bins that look like this, but I've
never seen them anywhere else.


What is the hood for?


Makes it harder for the brat to get out when you put it in the bin where it
belongs.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/qpzkw50rday7lsz/bin.jpg?dl=0





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On 20/06/16 18:25, James Wilkinson wrote:
A neighbouring council has wheelie bins that look like this, but I've
never seen them anywhere else. What is the hood for?
https://www.dropbox.com/s/qpzkw50rday7lsz/bin.jpg?dl=0

Its a nesting box for the lesser spotted Romanian immigrant.


At least Romanians do work


Plenty of them don't, they steal instead.

and don't set explosives.


They're not as stupid as the Irish and realise that
they would blow themselves to bits if they did.


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James Wilkinson wrote:
A neighbouring council has wheelie bins that look like this, but I've
never seen them anywhere else. What is the hood for?
https://www.dropbox.com/s/qpzkw50rday7lsz/bin.jpg?dl=0


It's to enable the bin to be picked up from the roadside completely
mechanically (if it's close enough to the road) without manual
intervention. The lorry just pulls up alongside and a mechanical arm
controlled from the cab does all the work.


Ours have always been emptied like that and dont have anything like that.
They look like this.
http://www.cusack.co.uk/Catalogue/Ja...240-Ltr-B15618

The bigger "canopy" makes alignment less critical.


Doesnt explain why the other type works fine.

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On 20/06/16 18:25, James Wilkinson wrote:
A neighbouring council has wheelie bins that look like this, but I've
never seen them anywhere else. What is the hood for?
https://www.dropbox.com/s/qpzkw50rday7lsz/bin.jpg?dl=0

Its a nesting box for the lesser spotted Romanian immigrant.


At least Romanians do work


Plenty of them don't, they steal instead.

and don't set explosives.


They're not as stupid as the Irish and realise that
they would blow themselves to bits if they did.


O crap, the chuckle brothers are at it again.



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James Wilkinson wrote:
A neighbouring council has wheelie bins that look like this, but I've
never seen them anywhere else. What is the hood for?
https://www.dropbox.com/s/qpzkw50rday7lsz/bin.jpg?dl=0


It's to enable the bin to be picked up from the roadside completely
mechanically (if it's close enough to the road) without manual
intervention. The lorry just pulls up alongside and a mechanical arm
controlled from the cab does all the work.


Ours have always been emptied like that and dont have anything like that.
They look like this.
http://www.cusack.co.uk/Catalogue/Ja...240-Ltr-B15618

The bigger "canopy" makes alignment less critical.


Doesnt explain why the other type works fine.


Yours are almost identical to ours. But ours are taken to the back of the lorry by the binmen, then they press a button for the lorry to lift hem. Too much street parking round here to allow fully mechanised.

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James Wilkinson wrote

A neighbouring council has wheelie bins that look like this, but I've
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What is the hood for?


Makes it harder for the brat to get out when you put it in the bin where it
belongs.


When I were a brat we used to put each other in them and wheel each other around.

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James Wilkinson wrote

A neighbouring council has wheelie bins that look like this, but I've
never seen them anywhere else.


What is the hood for?


Makes it harder for the brat to get out when you put it in the bin where
it
belongs.


When I were a brat we used to put each other in them and wheel each other
around.


When you were a brat?
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James Wilkinson wrote:
A neighbouring council has wheelie bins that look like this, but I've
never seen them anywhere else. What is the hood for?
https://www.dropbox.com/s/qpzkw50rday7lsz/bin.jpg?dl=0


It's to enable the bin to be picked up from the roadside completely
mechanically (if it's close enough to the road) without manual
intervention. The lorry just pulls up alongside and a mechanical arm
controlled from the cab does all the work.


Ours have always been emptied like that and dont have anything like
that.
They look like this.
http://www.cusack.co.uk/Catalogue/Ja...240-Ltr-B15618

The bigger "canopy" makes alignment less critical.


Doesnt explain why the other type works fine.


Yours are almost identical to ours. But ours are taken to the back of the
lorry by the binmen, then they press a button for the lorry to lift hem.
Too much street parking round here to allow fully mechanised.


Yeah, that's what I meant, he's wrong about that difference
with that bin being to allow mechanised pickup.

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James Wilkinson wrote

A neighbouring council has wheelie bins that look like this, but I've
never seen them anywhere else.


What is the hood for?


Makes it harder for the brat to get out when you put it in the bin where
it
belongs.


When I were a brat we used to put each other in them and wheel each other
around.


They showed up long after I was a brat.

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James Wilkinson wrote:
A neighbouring council has wheelie bins that look like this, but I've
never seen them anywhere else. What is the hood for?
https://www.dropbox.com/s/qpzkw50rday7lsz/bin.jpg?dl=0


It's to enable the bin to be picked up from the roadside completely
mechanically (if it's close enough to the road) without manual
intervention. The lorry just pulls up alongside and a mechanical arm
controlled from the cab does all the work.

The bigger "canopy" makes alignment less critical.


Ahhh, I didn't think of that as I got mixed up and thought it wasn't on
the truck side of the bin. The binmen don't wheel mine to the lorry and
hook the handles on, the other side gets hooked on.

So I guess people not bothering to put the bins the right way round (like
my neighbour) wouldn't get it collected at all. Round here they're
wheeled to the lorry by the binmen and they don't mind the odd one facing
wrongly.



You mean there is a "right way round" for putting wheelie bins on the
roadside for collection? I never knew that. I've never seen any
instructions. Looking along our road, people place them various ways round -
some with the handle closest to the road (which means walking into the road
as you are dragging it onto the grass verge), some with the handle furthest
away from the road (closest to the house) and some at right angles (which is
how you would drag it behind you as you walk towards the kerb but then turn
at the last minute to avoid walking into the road).

But our bins are always collected and hooked onto the lorry by hand. One man
typically walks ahead and gathers several bins into a group, and then he and
another guy take the bins, two at a time, onto the two "hooks" on the lorry.

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On 20/06/16 18:25, James Wilkinson wrote:
A neighbouring council has wheelie bins that look like this, but I've
never seen them anywhere else. What is the hood for?
https://www.dropbox.com/s/qpzkw50rday7lsz/bin.jpg?dl=0

Its a nesting box for the lesser spotted Romanian immigrant.


At least Romanians do work and don't set explosives.


Round here, they beg!
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James Wilkinson wrote:
On Mon, 20 Jun 2016 18:30:12 +0100, The Natural Philosopher
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On 20/06/16 18:25, James Wilkinson wrote:
A neighbouring council has wheelie bins that look like this, but I've
never seen them anywhere else. What is the hood for?
https://www.dropbox.com/s/qpzkw50rday7lsz/bin.jpg?dl=0

Its a nesting box for the lesser spotted Romanian immigrant.


At least Romanians do work and don't set explosives.


Round here, they beg!


Round here, they clean cars. Bloody well.



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Round here, they beg!


Round here, they clean cars. Bloody well.




Putting all those poor Polish workers out of a job - damn liberty!

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Round here, they beg!


Round here, they clean cars. Bloody well.




Putting all those poor Polish workers out of a job - damn liberty!

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James Wilkinson wrote:
A neighbouring council has wheelie bins that look like this, but I've
never seen them anywhere else. What is the hood for?
https://www.dropbox.com/s/qpzkw50rday7lsz/bin.jpg?dl=0

It's to enable the bin to be picked up from the roadside completely
mechanically (if it's close enough to the road) without manual
intervention. The lorry just pulls up alongside and a mechanical arm
controlled from the cab does all the work.

The bigger "canopy" makes alignment less critical.


Ahhh, I didn't think of that as I got mixed up and thought it wasn't on
the truck side of the bin. The binmen don't wheel mine to the lorry and
hook the handles on, the other side gets hooked on.

So I guess people not bothering to put the bins the right way round (like
my neighbour) wouldn't get it collected at all. Round here they're
wheeled to the lorry by the binmen and they don't mind the odd one facing
wrongly.


You mean there is a "right way round" for putting wheelie bins on the
roadside for collection? I never knew that. I've never seen any
instructions. Looking along our road, people place them various ways round -
some with the handle closest to the road (which means walking into the road
as you are dragging it onto the grass verge), some with the handle furthest
away from the road (closest to the house) and some at right angles (which is
how you would drag it behind you as you walk towards the kerb but then turn
at the last minute to avoid walking into the road).

But our bins are always collected and hooked onto the lorry by hand. One man
typically walks ahead and gathers several bins into a group, and then he and
another guy take the bins, two at a time, onto the two "hooks" on the lorry.


We were told to when we first got the bins, and it seems pretty obvious, and 90% of them are done this way, to place the handles nearest the road. Imagine you're collecting 1000 bins in the day, would you want to turn them all round to pull them to the lorry? Also when two drives are adjacent, your and their bins should be paired off so the binman can take two at once.

It's not a busy road here, but if it was, I'd simply stop to the side of the bin, and continue pulling it alongside me so it's still facing the road.

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James Wilkinson wrote:
A neighbouring council has wheelie bins that look like this, but I've
never seen them anywhere else. What is the hood for?
https://www.dropbox.com/s/qpzkw50rday7lsz/bin.jpg?dl=0


It's to enable the bin to be picked up from the roadside completely
mechanically (if it's close enough to the road) without manual
intervention. The lorry just pulls up alongside and a mechanical arm
controlled from the cab does all the work.

Ours have always been emptied like that and dont have anything like
that.
They look like this.
http://www.cusack.co.uk/Catalogue/Ja...240-Ltr-B15618

The bigger "canopy" makes alignment less critical.

Doesnt explain why the other type works fine.


Yours are almost identical to ours. But ours are taken to the back of the
lorry by the binmen, then they press a button for the lorry to lift hem.
Too much street parking round here to allow fully mechanised.


Yeah, that's what I meant, he's wrong about that difference
with that bin being to allow mechanised pickup.


If he's wrong, then nobody knows what the hood is for?

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Round here, they beg!


Round here, they clean cars. Bloody well.




Putting all those poor Polish workers out of a job - damn liberty!

;-)


The Poles are far too busy building houses!



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Round here, they beg!

Round here, they clean cars. Bloody well.




Putting all those poor Polish workers out of a job - damn liberty!

;-)

+1.

Poles are better car cleaners


The ones near you might be - these are excellent. Anyway, if you have
your way, you'll have to get someone English to do it, and then you'll
notice the difference.



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"Tim+" wrote in message
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James Wilkinson wrote:
A neighbouring council has wheelie bins that look like this, but I've
never seen them anywhere else. What is the hood for?
https://www.dropbox.com/s/qpzkw50rday7lsz/bin.jpg?dl=0


It's to enable the bin to be picked up from the roadside completely
mechanically (if it's close enough to the road) without manual
intervention. The lorry just pulls up alongside and a mechanical arm
controlled from the cab does all the work.

Ours have always been emptied like that and dont have anything like
that.
They look like this.
http://www.cusack.co.uk/Catalogue/Ja...240-Ltr-B15618

The bigger "canopy" makes alignment less critical.

Doesnt explain why the other type works fine.

Yours are almost identical to ours. But ours are taken to the back of
the
lorry by the binmen, then they press a button for the lorry to lift hem.
Too much street parking round here to allow fully mechanised.


Yeah, that's what I meant, he's wrong about that difference
with that bin being to allow mechanised pickup.


If he's wrong,


He is because our system handles bins like yours
without anyone except the driver involved fine.

then nobody knows what the hood is for?


No one who has comment yet anyway.


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James Wilkinson wrote:
A neighbouring council has wheelie bins that look like this, but I've
never seen them anywhere else. What is the hood for?
https://www.dropbox.com/s/qpzkw50rday7lsz/bin.jpg?dl=0


It's to enable the bin to be picked up from the roadside completely
mechanically (if it's close enough to the road) without manual
intervention. The lorry just pulls up alongside and a mechanical arm
controlled from the cab does all the work.

Ours have always been emptied like that and dont have anything like
that.
They look like this.
http://www.cusack.co.uk/Catalogue/Ja...240-Ltr-B15618

The bigger "canopy" makes alignment less critical.

Doesnt explain why the other type works fine.

Yours are almost identical to ours. But ours are taken to the back of
the
lorry by the binmen, then they press a button for the lorry to lift hem.
Too much street parking round here to allow fully mechanised.

Yeah, that's what I meant, he's wrong about that difference
with that bin being to allow mechanised pickup.


If he's wrong,


He is because our system handles bins like yours
without anyone except the driver involved fine.


For some reason we have men pull the bins to the lorry, and AFAIK most in the UK do this. Must be the busier streets - too many parked cars to get the arm in. Or some health and softy bull**** about the arm being dangerous.

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James Wilkinson wrote:
A neighbouring council has wheelie bins that look like this, but
I've
never seen them anywhere else. What is the hood for?
https://www.dropbox.com/s/qpzkw50rday7lsz/bin.jpg?dl=0


It's to enable the bin to be picked up from the roadside completely
mechanically (if it's close enough to the road) without manual
intervention. The lorry just pulls up alongside and a mechanical
arm
controlled from the cab does all the work.

Ours have always been emptied like that and dont have anything like
that.
They look like this.
http://www.cusack.co.uk/Catalogue/Ja...240-Ltr-B15618

The bigger "canopy" makes alignment less critical.

Doesnt explain why the other type works fine.

Yours are almost identical to ours. But ours are taken to the back of
the
lorry by the binmen, then they press a button for the lorry to lift
hem.
Too much street parking round here to allow fully mechanised.

Yeah, that's what I meant, he's wrong about that difference
with that bin being to allow mechanised pickup.

If he's wrong,


He is because our system handles bins like yours
without anyone except the driver involved fine.


For some reason we have men pull the bins to the lorry,


Basically because you have a lot more parked cars at bin pickup time.

and AFAIK most in the UK do this. Must be the busier streets - too many
parked cars to get the arm in.


Yes.

Or some health and softy bull**** about the arm being dangerous.


Nope, it is the parked cars.


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What is the hood for?


The circular black hole is for rubble and plasterboard.


Are you sure it's not some sort of glory hole.
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On Mon, 20 Jun 2016 20:44:12 +0100, Tim+ wrote:

James Wilkinson wrote:
A neighbouring council has wheelie bins that look like this, but I've
never seen them anywhere else. What is the hood for?
https://www.dropbox.com/s/qpzkw50rday7lsz/bin.jpg?dl=0

It's to enable the bin to be picked up from the roadside completely
mechanically (if it's close enough to the road) without manual
intervention. The lorry just pulls up alongside and a mechanical arm
controlled from the cab does all the work.

The bigger "canopy" makes alignment less critical.

Ahhh, I didn't think of that as I got mixed up and thought it wasn't on
the truck side of the bin. The binmen don't wheel mine to the lorry and
hook the handles on, the other side gets hooked on.

So I guess people not bothering to put the bins the right way round
(like
my neighbour) wouldn't get it collected at all. Round here they're
wheeled to the lorry by the binmen and they don't mind the odd one
facing
wrongly.


You mean there is a "right way round" for putting wheelie bins on the
roadside for collection? I never knew that. I've never seen any
instructions. Looking along our road, people place them various ways
round -
some with the handle closest to the road (which means walking into the
road
as you are dragging it onto the grass verge), some with the handle
furthest
away from the road (closest to the house) and some at right angles (which
is
how you would drag it behind you as you walk towards the kerb but then
turn
at the last minute to avoid walking into the road).

But our bins are always collected and hooked onto the lorry by hand. One
man
typically walks ahead and gathers several bins into a group, and then he
and
another guy take the bins, two at a time, onto the two "hooks" on the
lorry.


We were told to when we first got the bins, and it seems pretty obvious,
and 90% of them are done this way, to place the handles nearest the road.


Imagine you're collecting 1000 bins in the day, would you want to turn them
all round to pull them to the lorry?


I cannot imagine that as I am not a bin man.

Does a bin man's wishes concern you?

They are paid to empty the bins.

Occasionally they put one back outside the correct house when they have
emptied it.


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James Wilkinson wrote:
A neighbouring council has wheelie bins that look like this, but I've
never seen them anywhere else. What is the hood for?
https://www.dropbox.com/s/qpzkw50rday7lsz/bin.jpg?dl=0

It's to enable the bin to be picked up from the roadside completely
mechanically (if it's close enough to the road) without manual
intervention. The lorry just pulls up alongside and a mechanical arm
controlled from the cab does all the work.

The bigger "canopy" makes alignment less critical.

Ahhh, I didn't think of that as I got mixed up and thought it wasn't on
the truck side of the bin. The binmen don't wheel mine to the lorry and
hook the handles on, the other side gets hooked on.

So I guess people not bothering to put the bins the right way round
(like
my neighbour) wouldn't get it collected at all. Round here they're
wheeled to the lorry by the binmen and they don't mind the odd one
facing
wrongly.

You mean there is a "right way round" for putting wheelie bins on the
roadside for collection? I never knew that. I've never seen any
instructions. Looking along our road, people place them various ways
round -
some with the handle closest to the road (which means walking into the
road
as you are dragging it onto the grass verge), some with the handle
furthest
away from the road (closest to the house) and some at right angles (which
is
how you would drag it behind you as you walk towards the kerb but then
turn
at the last minute to avoid walking into the road).

But our bins are always collected and hooked onto the lorry by hand. One
man
typically walks ahead and gathers several bins into a group, and then he
and
another guy take the bins, two at a time, onto the two "hooks" on the
lorry.


We were told to when we first got the bins, and it seems pretty obvious,
and 90% of them are done this way, to place the handles nearest the road.


Imagine you're collecting 1000 bins in the day, would you want to turn them
all round to pull them to the lorry?


I cannot imagine that as I am not a bin man.


I thought everyone had an imagination.

Does a bin man's wishes concern you?


Efficiency concerns me.

They are paid to empty the bins.


The quicker they can do it, the less they have to get paid and the lower your taxes.

Occasionally they put one back outside the correct house when they have
emptied it.


A bin is a bin, I did not take you for one of those fusspots who gets possessive over "their" bin which is identical to everyone else's and owned by the council anyway.

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On Monday, 20 June 2016 19:03:35 UTC+1, Andy Burns wrote:
James Wilkinson wrote:

What is the hood for?


The circular black hole is for rubble and plasterboard.


Are you sure it's not some sort of glory hole.


Are you speaking from experience?

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James Wilkinson wrote:
A neighbouring council has wheelie bins that look like this, but
I've
never seen them anywhere else. What is the hood for?
https://www.dropbox.com/s/qpzkw50rday7lsz/bin.jpg?dl=0


It's to enable the bin to be picked up from the roadside completely
mechanically (if it's close enough to the road) without manual
intervention. The lorry just pulls up alongside and a mechanical
arm
controlled from the cab does all the work.

Ours have always been emptied like that and dont have anything like
that.
They look like this.
http://www.cusack.co.uk/Catalogue/Ja...240-Ltr-B15618

The bigger "canopy" makes alignment less critical.

Doesnt explain why the other type works fine.

Yours are almost identical to ours. But ours are taken to the back of
the
lorry by the binmen, then they press a button for the lorry to lift
hem.
Too much street parking round here to allow fully mechanised.

Yeah, that's what I meant, he's wrong about that difference
with that bin being to allow mechanised pickup.

If he's wrong,

He is because our system handles bins like yours
without anyone except the driver involved fine.


For some reason we have men pull the bins to the lorry,


Basically because you have a lot more parked cars at bin pickup time.


We shouldn't. My street for example has driveways which all take multiple cars, I can get 5 in mine. Yet I see cars in the street next to drives that aren't full. I guess people are too ****ing lazy to move one out of the way to get a different one out. Mind you I have the advantage that my driveway is butted up against my neighbour's, so we can use each other's to get cars round each other.

But what really ****es me off is the absolute moron 100 yards from me who always parks on the other side of the road to everyone else. Quite how lorries and buses are meant to get past I don't know.

and AFAIK most in the UK do this. Must be the busier streets - too many
parked cars to get the arm in.


Yes.

Or some health and softy bull**** about the arm being dangerous.


Nope, it is the parked cars.


You'd be surprised how much health and softy we have here.

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On Tuesday, 21 June 2016 20:29:45 UTC+1, James Wilkinson wrote:
A bin is a bin, I did not take you for one of those fusspots who gets
possessive over "their" bin which is identical to everyone else's and
owned by the council anyway.


Not all bins are owned by the council; some councils 'give' them to residents who then have to pay for replacements in the event of loss or damage.

And bins are not identical. Some get washed out weekly and given a spray of Bin-Fresh. Others have six-month-old sludge and bloodstains accumulating at the bottom.

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James Wilkinson wrote:
A neighbouring council has wheelie bins that look like this, but
I've never seen them anywhere else. What is the hood for?
https://www.dropbox.com/s/qpzkw50rday7lsz/bin.jpg?dl=0

It's to enable the bin to be picked up from the roadside completely
mechanically (if it's close enough to the road) without manual
intervention. The lorry just pulls up alongside and a mechanical
arm controlled from the cab does all the work.

The bigger "canopy" makes alignment less critical.

Ahhh, I didn't think of that as I got mixed up and thought it wasn't
on the truck side of the bin. The binmen don't wheel mine to the
lorry and hook the handles on, the other side gets hooked on.

So I guess people not bothering to put the bins the right way round
(like my neighbour) wouldn't get it collected at all. Round here
they're wheeled to the lorry by the binmen and they don't mind the
odd one facing wrongly.

You mean there is a "right way round" for putting wheelie bins on the
roadside for collection? I never knew that. I've never seen any
instructions. Looking along our road, people place them various ways
round -
some with the handle closest to the road (which means walking into the
road as you are dragging it onto the grass verge), some with the
handle furthest away from the road (closest to the house) and some at
right angles (which is how you would drag it behind you as you walk
towards the kerb but then turn at the last minute to avoid walking
into the road).

But our bins are always collected and hooked onto the lorry by hand.
One man typically walks ahead and gathers several bins into a group,
and then he and another guy take the bins, two at a time, onto the two
"hooks" on the lorry.


We were told to when we first got the bins, and it seems pretty
obvious, and 90% of them are done this way, to place the handles
nearest the road.


Imagine you're collecting 1000 bins in the day, would you want to turn
them all round to pull them to the lorry?


I cannot imagine that as I am not a bin man.

Does a bin man's wishes concern you?

They are paid to empty the bins.

Occasionally they put one back outside the correct house when they have
emptied it.


And sometimes they don't damage it.

The best one round here was when we had 'inserts' for paper inside a
bigger recycling bin. They were filmed emptying the inserts into the main
bin, presumably to save time.



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On Tue, 21 Jun 2016 14:05:16 -0700, spuorgelgoog wrote:

On Tuesday, 21 June 2016 20:29:45 UTC+1, James Wilkinson wrote:
A bin is a bin, I did not take you for one of those fusspots who gets
possessive over "their" bin which is identical to everyone else's and
owned by the council anyway.


Not all bins are owned by the council; some councils 'give' them to
residents who then have to pay for replacements in the event of loss or
damage.

And bins are not identical. Some get washed out weekly and given a spray
of Bin-Fresh. Others have six-month-old sludge and bloodstains
accumulating at the bottom.


Round here there are at least three different sizes of bin. Normally one
gets the middle size, but can ask for a small one if space is tight and
the bin isn't used so much.

There are large ones (we have one) which are no longer available, but
still emptied OK (a 'grandfathered' arrangement).



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On Tuesday, 21 June 2016 20:29:45 UTC+1, James Wilkinson wrote:
A bin is a bin, I did not take you for one of those fusspots who gets
possessive over "their" bin which is identical to everyone else's and
owned by the council anyway.


Not all bins are owned by the council; some councils 'give' them to residents who then have to pay for replacements in the event of loss or damage.


That's no good. If I want more space, I can "lose" my bin, ask for a replacement, then find it again and put two out.

And bins are not identical. Some get washed out weekly and given a spray of Bin-Fresh. Others have six-month-old sludge and bloodstains accumulating at the bottom.


How ****ing pathetic. It's a BIN. It's not meant to be sparkling inside ffs.

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