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On 12/02/2016 12:01, Andy Burns wrote:
stuart noble wrote: I'd be interested to know what type of cable stripper your lads get issued with. Mine are difficult to set For larger cables it's easy enough to use cutters as others have said, but for smaller sizes I have some fixed strippers/shears, which avoid the hassle of constantly adjusting them. http://www.piergiacomi.com/piergiacomi/en/products/hand-tools/334-cesoie-multi-uso-dettaglio.html#CSP301 the CSP302 version does larger diameter cables (perhaps OK for 2.5mm^2 and 4.0mm^2 ?) That's the design of the one I'm using, but I find it really easy to slip the cable into the wrong slot, especially in less than perfect light |
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On 12/02/2016 15:52, Chris French wrote:
Tim Watts Wrote in message: On 12/02/16 12:01, Andy Burns wrote: stuart noble wrote: I'd be interested to know what type of cable stripper your lads get issued with. Mine are difficult to set For larger cables it's easy enough to use cutters as others have said, but for smaller sizes I have some fixed strippers/shears, which avoid the hassle of constantly adjusting them. http://www.piergiacomi.com/piergiacomi/en/products/hand-tools/334-cesoie-multi-uso-dettaglio.html#CSP301 the CSP302 version does larger diameter cables (perhaps OK for 2.5mm^2 and 4.0mm^2 ?) I have a pair of sidecutter with 2 cable cutter "nicks" - 1-1.5mm2 and 2.5mm2 - very useful. I also have a T+E sheath stripper which takes 1 second to take several inch section off. I've got a pair of self adjusting ones, that seem to work well and don't nick the conductor. Sure I can do it with side cutters or a knife but this is easy and quick. http://www.rapidonline.com/tools-equ...000005-profess ional-wire-stripper-no-5-86-0320 I actually bought then when we were doing some physics/electrical stuff with a group of kids and it was much easier to let them use these rather than teach then how to use a knife, cutters etc. They worked so well that the made it into my tool kit. They look pretty idiot proof. Just the job |
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On 12/02/16 15:59, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article , Tim Watts wrote: I also have a T+E sheath stripper which takes 1 second to take several inch section off. Split the cable end with a sharp knife. Pull the ECC out to one side with pliers to cut through the sheath. Pull the split sheath off the blue and brown. Snip off the sheath with cutters. The less tools you can leave behind, the better. ;-) I've done both - the tool I have is *much* easier... I can strip cables with nothing but a stanley knife, but I prefer to work more comfortably if possible |
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Tim Watts wrote: On 12/02/16 15:59, Dave Plowman (News) wrote: In article , Tim Watts wrote: I also have a T+E sheath stripper which takes 1 second to take several inch section off. Split the cable end with a sharp knife. Pull the ECC out to one side with pliers to cut through the sheath. Pull the split sheath off the blue and brown. Snip off the sheath with cutters. The less tools you can leave behind, the better. ;-) I've done both - the tool I have is *much* easier... I can strip cables with nothing but a stanley knife, but I prefer to work more comfortably if possible Snag with using a sharp knife is its too easy to nick the conductor. With the relatively blunt jaws of side cutters, you dont. As you don't actually cut through the insulation with them. -- *INDECISION is the key to FLEXIBILITY * Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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On 13/02/16 00:27, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article , Tim Watts wrote: On 12/02/16 15:59, Dave Plowman (News) wrote: In article , Tim Watts wrote: I also have a T+E sheath stripper which takes 1 second to take several inch section off. Split the cable end with a sharp knife. Pull the ECC out to one side with pliers to cut through the sheath. Pull the split sheath off the blue and brown. Snip off the sheath with cutters. The less tools you can leave behind, the better. ;-) I've done both - the tool I have is *much* easier... I can strip cables with nothing but a stanley knife, but I prefer to work more comfortably if possible Snag with using a sharp knife is its too easy to nick the conductor. With the relatively blunt jaws of side cutters, you dont. As you don't actually cut through the insulation with them. True - I only go half way through with a knife then use cutters (on 10+mm2 cable that's tough. My main point was "I *can* manage with a basic tool, but I'd rather have an optimal tool when doing a lot" ;-) |
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On Saturday, 13 February 2016 08:19:22 UTC, Tim Watts wrote:
On 13/02/16 00:27, Dave Plowman (News) wrote: In article , Tim Watts wrote: On 12/02/16 15:59, Dave Plowman (News) wrote: In article , Tim Watts wrote: I can strip cables with nothing but a stanley knife, but I prefer to work more comfortably if possible Snag with using a sharp knife is its too easy to nick the conductor. With the relatively blunt jaws of side cutters, you dont. As you don't actually cut through the insulation with them. True - I only go half way through with a knife then use cutters (on 10+mm2 cable that's tough. My main point was "I *can* manage with a basic tool, but I'd rather have an optimal tool when doing a lot" ;-) I tend to prefer a knife. It does anything & everything, but takes a bit of practice. It's insulated, unlike many stanley types. All types of stripper, including the old fashioned cutters, have their ups & downs, and I got fed up with bumping into their shortcomings. The automatic ones are good over a limited size range, but useless outside of it. A good choice if you only work on a narow size range and it's not too big. NT |
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Tim Watts wrote: Snag with using a sharp knife is its too easy to nick the conductor. With the relatively blunt jaws of side cutters, you dont. As you don't actually cut through the insulation with them. True - I only go half way through with a knife then use cutters (on 10+mm2 cable that's tough. My main point was "I *can* manage with a basic tool, but I'd rather have an optimal tool when doing a lot" ;-) I started doing house wiring before special stripping tools were available (or at least common) so developed the skills of doing it with basic tools. I have just about every wire stripper known to man here. Thinking one day I'll find the perfect universal one. Not for house wiring, but for other stuff - cars and electronics. The best one I have by far is the type which grips the cable with one set of jaws and uses a second set - with different sized holes in the cutter - to pull off the insulation. The universal ones that are meant to set themselves to any size, near useless. -- *I feel like I'm diagonally parked in a parallel universe* Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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wrote: I tend to prefer a knife. It does anything & everything, but takes a bit of practice. It's insulated, unlike many stanley types. Trying to imagine a knife with an insulated blade. Ceramic, perhaps? -- *Always borrow money from pessimists - they don't expect it back * Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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On 13/02/16 12:06, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article , Tim Watts wrote: Snag with using a sharp knife is its too easy to nick the conductor. With the relatively blunt jaws of side cutters, you dont. As you don't actually cut through the insulation with them. True - I only go half way through with a knife then use cutters (on 10+mm2 cable that's tough. My main point was "I *can* manage with a basic tool, but I'd rather have an optimal tool when doing a lot" ;-) I started doing house wiring before special stripping tools were available (or at least common) so developed the skills of doing it with basic tools. I have just about every wire stripper known to man here. Thinking one day I'll find the perfect universal one. Not for house wiring, but for other stuff - cars and electronics. The best one I have by far is the type which grips the cable with one set of jaws and uses a second set - with different sized holes in the cutter - to pull off the insulation. The universal ones that are meant to set themselves to any size, near useless. Aye - there's no single one that's perfect. Sidecutters with 1.5/2.5 notches are brilliant for everyday mains wiring. And I have something a little like these: https://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Images/...FXSTRIPPER.JPG for taking T+E sheath off which is bloody brilliant (mine are yellow and not quite the same, but similar). |
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Tim Watts wrote: Aye - there's no single one that's perfect. Sidecutters with 1.5/2.5 notches are brilliant for everyday mains wiring. And I have something a little like these: https://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Images/...FXSTRIPPER.JPG I find that type pretty useless. Has a habit of shearing off small flex. The only one I truly like is similar in principle, but has four different sized holes on the cutter side. So no attempt to being universal. You can fiddle with the tension on the one you show, which might be ok if you then strip lots of cable of the same size, but very hit or miss for just one. for taking T+E sheath off which is bloody brilliant (mine are yellow and not quite the same, but similar). Thing is of course the tool and method which suits an individual is always the best. ;-) IMHO it's a bit like a crimping tool. No such thing as a universal one. And even ones said to be for a particular job vary greatly. -- *There are 3 kinds of people: those who can count & those who can't. Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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On Saturday, 13 February 2016 14:35:15 UTC, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article , tabbypurr wrote: I tend to prefer a knife. It does anything & everything, but takes a bit of practice. It's insulated, unlike many stanley types. Trying to imagine a knife with an insulated blade. Ceramic, perhaps? It's the rest of it that's insulated. When buying stanley type I always go for metal. NT |
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